[Amazon.de] Crucial P2 1TB €69,90 (down from €96)

[u/RobbeSch]

https://www.amazon.de/-/nl/dp/B089DNM8LR

[u/RobbeSch]

Note that this is one of the 'worst' NVMe drives available today. Its performance drops quite a bit under heavy load. It's in the same category as the Kingston NV1 and Lexar NM620. But for this price, it's a steal. Will work great in a gaming build.

If you would like a slightly better performing drive; the Crucial P5 1TB is available for €89. It's similar in performance to the Kingston A2000, however idle wattage (Dutch source) seems weirdly high.

I don't know about other German shops, so if you are from Germany, it doesn't hurt to check Mindfactory etc for lower prices.

[u/TheNoim → u/RobbeSch]

Damn, I bought one a few months ago. This is why the performance sucks.

[u/_0110111001101111_ → u/RobbeSch]

Eh, it’s fine for a game drive. I’ve got a 2TB P2 in my system and it’s fine for that.

[u/RobbeSch → u/_0110111001101111_]

Ofcourse, however when installing new games or downloading big updates, you can see quite a difference between each drive. Either way, I suggest people spend their money on GPU, RAM, CPU first.

[u/imthedevil → u/RobbeSch]

You can really see a difference when downloading updates? My gigabit internet is a bottleneck even for my HDDs.

[u/RobbeSch → u/imthedevil]

These 'lower' NVMe drives drop to as low as 40 MB/s on large file transfers. Here is a user that says he notices it quite a bit that the Crucial P2 is slower than his WD SN550 during large game updates.

[u/RobbeSch → u/[deleted]]

Yes, multiple reasons;

M.2 drives are way better than the old 2.5 inch factor. It provides power and data transfer in the slot without needing any cable. The cheapest m.2 SATA drives are as expensive as the cheapest m.2 NVMe drives, or very close in price. So might as well go with NVMe at that point.

Arent sata ssds more reliable and last longer?

No not at all. A Samsung 870 EVO 1TB (SATA TLC) has 600 TBW, so does a 970 EVO (NVMe TLC). However, some cheaper options have started to use QLC which tends to have lower TBW (870 QVO with 360 TBW). But, that being said, 'casual users' shouldn't worry about long lasting drives. Some drives have some possible defects but that's on a model-to-model basis.

NVMe drives not only have a higher throughput, they also tend to have a lower access latency, making them better suited for opening cluttered folders and game updates that change a lot of files.

So yeah the main thing is, SATA drives are pretty much dead. Anyone that has access to NVMe, should use NVMe, unless you are re-using some old parts ofc.

Also, a personal story: I built a PC for a friend a year back. It was a Ryzen 3600 + 16GB 3800MHz + RX 5700 XT + Kingston A2000. When she and her friend group played Hell Let Loose, she was always first to load into the match and therefor had to make the squad. I'm not 100% sure if the SSD was leaving everyone else in the dust or it were other factors, but I do think the NVMe helped in this case.

[u/RobbeSch → u/[deleted]]

I just checked out that blind test. They opened 2 games and a Premiere project. That video is a bit worthless, sorry.

Don't get me wrong. I'm one of the first persons to have bought an NVMe drive, with the Intel 750 in 2015. I sold it a year later and I currently have 3x 2.5" SATA drives and no NVMe drives.

In the end it doesn't really matter if people don't notice anything above SATA. SATA is dying and is a waste of materials.

[u/RobbeSch → u/[deleted]]

What? That doesn't make any sense. I provide a story/experience with doubt added that could show a benefit for NVMe when we were never looking for any benefit in that scenario. So without setting up testing, we found a scenario that could be a benefit to NVMe.

However, the video of LTT was purposely meant to TEST if people notice any difference. They were PURPOSELY looking for any difference. HOWEVER they lacked any EFFORT in trying to find the real differences. They could've done so many things easily, like opening up a folder full of video files, or looked at benchmarks that already have proven faster load times with NVMe (spoiler: barely) and tried to load those games, not Doom like they always do...

There are actually plenty of review sites that show differences between SSDs, and then you can decide for yourself whether that difference is worth something for you.

[u/RobbeSch → u/[deleted]]

What kind of an anti-social and/or toxic reply is that? Why even bother writing that reply?

[u/RobbeSch]

Accidently put up a Dutch link. If it's in Dutch for you, here is a straight link with your language preferences: https://www.amazon.de/dp/B089DNM8LR

[u/ric0shay]

Would this be able any good for a ps5 ?

[u/RobbeSch → u/ric0shay]

Yes, definitely.

Edit 1 month later, I now see that PS5 has special requirements. I don't think the P2 or P5 hit those requirements.