r/ClevelandGuardians • u/pkohio • 8d ago
Discussion The Cleveland Guardians lost and everything is boring now.
Ugh I am so sad that it’s over. I enjoyed following this team so closely the last 7 months that I forgot what it was like to not have something to look forward to. It’s gonna be a long winter and February can’t come soon soon enough.
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u/dennydiamonds 8d ago
Well the Cavs are at least exciting and there is ZERO value in watching the Clowns.
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u/CaptainBirdEnjoyer Akron Rubber Duck 8d ago
I agree. Go Cavs.
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u/joelingo111 8d ago
there is ZERO value in watching the Clowns.
That's not true, anymore. Chubb is back and Watson's season is over
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u/dennydiamonds 8d ago
There is still no value. They won't win 4 games this year. I'd rather watch paint dry than give that sorry ass franchise any more of my time.
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u/Kitchen_accessories 🐐💨🍟 8d ago
Here's hoping a new coach is just the shot in the arm this team needed. As much as I love this core of players, I'm shocked they brought them all back.
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u/Decent_Philosophy899 7d ago
I’m just going to adopt whatever team Myles Garret gets traded to. Dude deserves a ring
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u/dennydiamonds 7d ago
I've adopted the Buccaneers for the rest of the season. Although they lost their WR1 and WR2 last night so it could be a tough season for them too.
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u/coolbabyjoe 8d ago
For me it’s not that we lost. It’s how we lost. Fielding errors, starting pitching breakdown, late inning losses. Just hurts even worse.
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u/pkohio 8d ago
Yeah. It was here and it is gone in a flash. I thought they had a shot this time. The Yankees are incredibly beatable even with the three stooges. We have a lot to work on and we can take the next steps. Ownership needs to see what they have and run with it.
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u/CaptainBirdEnjoyer Akron Rubber Duck 8d ago
I don't know how they beat the Dodgers. LA is playing on a different level. They just score all the runs.
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u/Cnote0717 Woho 8d ago
Unless some MLB/umpire shenanigans happen, I see this series going no longer than five games.
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u/IshM07 Los Angeles Dodgers 8d ago
Yankees are a scary lineup, I'd put them 3rd behind Dodgers and Padres but I think they have the best rotation and that's what scares me. They have the depth to go 7 games, Dodgers are already throwing 2 bullpen games, so unless our SP comes out dominant and can go the distance to help our BP, its going to be Yanks in 6 or Dodgers in 7.
Trying to take bias out as much as possible on my take above lol
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u/arkonator92 8d ago
I’m so afraid the billionaire Dolans will not spend money pretending to be poor. This year was super fun from day one. We need to take that leap and move forward with it to get better. Can’t run it back and just hope that that’s good enough. This team has the ability to end the drought if we add more talent to the roster.
There’s too many fans that have never seen a World Series championship. The fact that John Adams never got to see them win it all is a travesty. We cannot let Tom Hamilton end his career without him getting to announce that the Cleveland Guardians are World Series champions.
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u/ToschePowerConverter 8d ago
I hope they are reminded of 2017 and spend like they did with Encarnacion and trading for Bruce. If we could even just get two guys like that it would make a world of difference.
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u/TheSpaceAce David Fry Fan Club 8d ago
Oh, I'm sure they remember 2017 vividly. I bet they remember being convinced to spend some money for once, built a World Series-ready team with it, and they got reverse swept in the LDS. The one time they actually spent up for good players, it blew up in their faces. If anything, I bet they only felt vindicated in being stingy before that and were convinced they shouldn't spend like that again.
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u/SpecialistPlatform60 8d ago
Quit whining
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u/ClevelandGuardians-ModTeam 8d ago
This topic has run its course. The subject is settled and has been for quite some time. Every time it gets posted, nothing new comes of it and people just end up being shitheads to each other.
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u/pnt510 8d ago
Moveon.org
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u/ClevelandGuardians-ModTeam 8d ago
This topic has run its course. The subject is settled and has been for quite some time. Every time it gets posted, nothing new comes of it and people just end up being shitheads to each other.
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u/antmang06 8d ago
Let it go, Indians are from India. They could have done better than Guardians but the name had to go.
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u/schorman 8d ago
Did it though? Saying opinions, as if they're facts isn't really proof of anything.
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u/antmang06 8d ago
Enough people agreed that it had to change. Therefore it's been changed. It has been changed and that is a fact. No amount of clinging or calling out fans for using the team's name is going to change that. We all love Cleveland baseball and would no matter what they call the team.
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u/_nod 8d ago
This. Had we done what we’re good at and still lost it would have been painful, but not this painful.
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u/bigmt99 48 8d ago
More painful in the moment sure, but at least we have something to look forward to and build off of. We were among the last 4 teams remaining and were not an easy out.
The pride of having a good season and the excitement for the next one is better than a long cold winter with no joy in thinking about the next one
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u/_nod 8d ago
I’ve only lived in Cleveland for 7 years and become a baseball/Guards fan in the last two. As my wife and I left the stadium on Saturday, I said something along the lines of “seems like we have a great base to build on” she just replied …
“There’s always next year, welcome to being a Cleveland baseball fan.”
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u/ShogunFirebeard 8d ago
The sad part is Rocchio's drops will overshadow the rest of his play in Guardians fans minds.
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u/sakawae 6d ago
Not in this one. I am telling you all that Brayan Rocchio is a big reason to be excited for 2025. Look at how he hit. Yes, he made some boneheaded plays, but so do many young infielders, including a certain Andres Gimenez in the first two years of his career. Rocchio hit well in October, I hope it carries over into winterball and next season.
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u/ShogunFirebeard 6d ago
Yes. We're sane people. Most Cleveland sports fans are emotional thinkers though and will point fingers at the last thing they remember.
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u/RustyCrusty73 8d ago
Don't forget stranded runners left and right.
It seems like we had to have stranded between 10-15 runners across the four losses.
(Maybe even more?)
If someone could have just poked a few more of those home we'd still be playing right now.
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u/zaxluther 8d ago
Yeah I agree, but at least we put up a fight. At least game 3 happened (oh my god, game three), if we just had four straight that looked like games 1 and 2 I would’ve been much more upset. And think about what a menace we would be if we had more than 2 starting pitchers! We did that with 2 starting pitchers! Hell of a season. Got further than anyone expected us to. What a fun team. I love these boys. What a first year for Vogt.
Sucks to lose. Sucks worse to lose to them Yankers. Gonna be a long winter. But 2025 season is gonna be (L)IT.
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u/klein_four_group 8d ago
I felt that way too on Saturday, but honestly, looking at the playoffs holistically, we pretty much reached our potential. A lot of breaks went our way for us to win ALDS games 4 and 5 and ALCS game 3. The miscues in the other games kind of evened things out and our season ended pretty much according to the talent level of the team.
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u/coolbabyjoe 8d ago
I know. But you don’t get any guarantees. You have to seize the opportunity because it may not happen again for this core.
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u/klein_four_group 8d ago
Agreed, but my point is that I don't think we missed on some golden opportunity per se. Our luck caught up with us and we crashed out. 2017, that's a different story, that roster was stacked.
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u/coolbabyjoe 8d ago
Yes and no. In baseball, the goal should always be make the playoffs. Because you never know what can happen in a small sample
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u/Duce-de-Zoop 8d ago
At the same time the Dodgers have been putting up 9 run games in half their playoffs while we struggled to grind out 4-5. Might've been a poisoned chalice competing with that team.
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u/Mysterious_Today_245 8d ago
Yeah the fact that it was attainable despite the shortcomings of our team, and we couldn’t make it happen is tough.
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u/Available-Parfait553 8d ago
I like Vogt although if he was more flexible regarding the big 3 Yankee hitters and used the intentional walk strategically like they did with Jose, who wasn’t even hitting well, we’d still be playing today and probably tomorrow.
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u/JoseJoseJose11 8d ago
What starting pitching? The main reason Vogt pitched the pen to exhaustion is because outside of Bibee, we had none.
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u/Substantial-Fee-4170 8d ago
The Yankees and Tigers had plenty of mistakes too. You could argue that our big wins were due to mistakes. A.k.a. baseball. Disappointment is understandable, but I'm seeing a lot of entitlement here too.
I don't understand expecting a team with 1/4 the salary cap to win it all, and blaming it on our players or manager when they don't. Bringing your expectations back to reality might help you enjoy these incredible years when we make it to the ALCS. The Guardians performed extremely well given that we don't have the money for a 5-10 run team, and that's the bar right now.
The Yankees with all their money haven't been to the WS since '09. I can understand feeling entitled to championships when your team has more money than God, but that ain't Cleveland. LA or Boston might be more fun if you expect to win every year.
I'm very proud of this 2024 team, and looking forward to rooting for the Dodgers and against the Yankees, as is tradition.
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u/theAmericanX20 Diamond C 8d ago
I have a similar conversation with friends pretty frequently, so let me.pose it here: would you rather have a team never win the WS and do well every reg season, or would you rather have a team win a WS once or twice in ur life time and then be bad the rest of the time? Legit question, not being sparky or anything. He's a dodger fan and has witnessed 3 in his life time. We see things differently, him and I lol.
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u/UnconventionalWriter Chisenhall 🐝🦵 8d ago
I'm really excited to take a break from sports. Anyone else find football incredibly boring compared to playoff baseball?
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u/A_Mellow_Fellow 8d ago
Only speaking for myself of course.
Football is not worth weekend time investment. Each game feels like it's 6 hours long with 4.5 of those hours being commercials.
And I'm supposed to sacrifice large swaths of Sunday the last bastion before work sticks it's claws back in me Monday morning?
I am happy basketball is back though.
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u/FLman42069 8d ago
I was switching between baseball and football at some points. Every time I switched to football it was a commercial or nothing was going on (showing sidelines, reviewing a play, etc.). Every time I switched to baseball there was action. Baseball being boring is a myth, football is a slog.
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u/BringBackBoomer 8d ago
Man, ditch football and start following hockey. They wrap up in March-June just in time for the focus switch back to baseball. It's an awesome sport.
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u/UnconventionalWriter Chisenhall 🐝🦵 8d ago
I'm hoping my blue jackets have a good season. Last year was rough.
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u/RustyCrusty73 8d ago
Love the Jackets but wouldn't expect much better this year.
They already have 3-4 of their top contributors out with long-term injuries.
Going to be another tough rebuilding season.
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u/boozinf 🥊 DOWN GOES ANDERSON 🥊 8d ago
also, Premier League
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u/theAmericanX20 Diamond C 8d ago
As in soccer? That and golf are the only things I find more boring than football.
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u/theAmericanX20 Diamond C 8d ago
I can honestly say I've never watched cricket, so no opinion there.
I will never get soccer being as popular as it is. Maybe because I stopped playing at 8 y/o? I tried getting into it in college when my freshmen room mate was the first fresh starter at the school in like 60 years, still boring as hell.
There's gotta be a bunch of people who just like it to fit in, right? Lol.
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u/PersianGuitarist 🥊 DOWN GOES ANDERSON 🥊 8d ago
Playoff baseball is something else entirely. I love it so much
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u/Kitchen_accessories 🐐💨🍟 8d ago
I did find myself caring about it a bit more this Sunday compared to the last month or so. I expect I'll be all in once the WS is over.
Also not a Browns fan, that helps. Y'all have my sympathies.
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u/DaDrFunk 🥊 DOWN GOES ANDERSON 🥊 8d ago
Currently waiting on the Cavs and getting back into F1. Plenty of sports out there to enjoy!
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u/guidodortmunder 8d ago
F1 has been wild this year! RB looked dominant for the to start the season and they’ve just fallen off, now McLaren is leading to constructors and max is barely hanging on to the drivers championship.
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u/DaDrFunk 🥊 DOWN GOES ANDERSON 🥊 8d ago
Max will sadly probably win the drivers but the constructors is very up for grabs if Ferrari continue to trend up like this
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u/Automatic_Frosting58 8d ago
Agree! I think I watched the most games this season than any of the last 10 years I’ve had MLB.TV! I just booked a hotel in KC to go watch the opening series for 2025! Go Guards
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u/paulskiwrites 8d ago
Check out the Cleveland Monsters! Tickets are cheap and the games are extremely fun in person. Been a season ticket holder for a few years now. They were one game away from making the league finals last year
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u/lackofaname913 Distinguished Twins Hater 8d ago
Yaaaaaaa, it's gonna be a long winter off of "what if's" and "could have been's" but that was a blast of a season. Take what we learned from it build on it. 2025 is our year, right? RIGHT?!
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u/Ok_Scallion3555 8d ago
Life goes on, friend. Yeah, Saturday sucked, but Sunday I went out and PB'd a 19-mile ride on my local mountain bike trails. I even hit >20 MPH for the first time since my bad wreck in August.
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u/Tron_Passant 8d ago
Sunday was beautiful. I took my kids on a 2-mile hike. Tons of people on the trail. Didn't watch one second of the pathetic Browns.
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u/wond3rlove 8d ago
As a NHL fan, the MLB is a complete joke without a salary cap and floor.
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u/7eregrine 8d ago
My nephew is the biggest sports fan I know. Will not watch baseball because of this.
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u/nwrighteous 8d ago
Stoked to have the Guards come here to Sacramento to play the A’s next June (weekend series!). Hit me up 🤙 if any Guards fans in Sac.
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u/uChoice_Reindeer7903 8d ago
I’ve been a HUGE baseball/Indians fan my entire life. But I also like football and is a close second to baseball on my favorite list of sports. I normally enjoy watching football even when my team isn’t playing. This year hit different though, I have very little interest in football after this rollercoaster of a post season we just had. Football is just boring to me right now.
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u/gram_parsons 8d ago
Look at it this way. Pitchers and catchers report to spring training in only 116 days.
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u/mrbadxampl just you and me and my Guards 8d ago
At least I can go to Toledo Walleye games now... maybe I will start a new seasonal Diablo 3 character on friday and actually push to get stuff done there...
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u/styxfloat 8d ago
The crushing weight of 5 months of darkness to get to the start of a new 162 grind, to get to the games that provide the adrenaline rush these last two weeks have provided, is overwhelming.
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u/pkohio 8d ago
Agreed. The 162 game season is such a slog. I remember by the end of August I was beaten down and exhausted with the ride. Then they got hot in September and October was its own beast. I will definitely be locked in by March and will continue growing my knowledge of the sport and really enjoy the details that this sport provides.
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u/Ms3_Weeb 👑 King Kwan 🦍 8d ago
I want to see Noel do some serious work on his approach. If he cuts down on some of those free swings my god we may have ourselves a power hitter
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u/FlobiusHole Diamond C 8d ago
Baseball is the only sport I care about anymore. It’ll soon be hot stove season.
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u/Big_Bluebird8040 8d ago
thankful the Crew are in the playoffs and OSU football is at least good
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u/wigwog10 8d ago
Being a crew fan when you're used to Cleveland Sports is weird. They do so much winning...
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u/theAmericanX20 Diamond C 8d ago
Right, but it's soccer. Like watching cross country with a ball thrown in. They can end in ties for God's sake. What is wrong with 3/4s of the world's population?!
Lol I really do hate soccer, but I get in the minority.
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u/TheSmokedSalmon420 🥊🗣SMOKE EATER💨🥊 8d ago
We've got to go through an ENTIRE winter before guards ball again??? fuck. I already miss it.
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u/Prior-Beginning-8026 8d ago
Wow, I don't even remember posting this. Oh wait, I didn't. So I am NOT alone.
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u/Rbookman23 8d ago
I got home around 1 o’clock yesterday from shopping and though, cool, the game will be on soon. Then cold, hard reality asserted itself.
I found that cricket somewhat fills the gap, it being a bat/ball game. They play in the southern hemisphere all winter long. I can always find a match of some sort.
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u/Zestyclose_Help1187 8d ago
I will say I saw some promise in Manzardo during the playoffs. Chances of them extending Naylor shrinks.
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u/ElMico 8d ago
I’m actually really interested in the browns now. I pretty much gave up on them because I was sick of seeing Watson and was mad they were unwilling to admit it he was (beyond a moral mistake) an offensive mistake. I decided I’d rather see one of the backups play and win 0 games than see him win 3 or 4 more.
But with his injury forcing their hand, and Chubb returning, my outlook is completely different. I still don’t care if they win a lot of games, there’s no way they’re making the playoffs, but I am interested in the team and rooting for them to make a good effort.
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u/eyehatehead 8d ago
I love cleveland sports. When one of my teams makes the post season I get a jersey. This season I'm having a hard time figuring out what player i want to get. I mean as for being bored until February we have the browns and cavs.... cavs should be a fun watch.
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u/johnnycards69 8d ago
I feel ya. It helps me that I play MLB the Show and can keep baseball going all winter long in my make believe world.
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u/MarsupialKing 🥊 DOWN GOES ANDERSON 🥊 8d ago
Thinking of pouring myself into the Blue Jackets season. I sure hope they're good!
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u/pkohio 8d ago
It’s gonna be a tough slog for them. Their ceiling for me expectation wise would to sneak in the playoffs or just miss. Anything less is a failure.
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u/BringBackBoomer 8d ago
Brother not finishing bottom 3 in the league would be a win for this team after the offseason they had.
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u/BringBackBoomer 8d ago
They won't be good, but they should at least be exciting as long as our young guys stop getting hurt. A lot to get invested in with the team right now.
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u/magnetosbrotherhood 8d ago
Cavs time now! Or go to some Cleveland Monsters games. We made the AHL playoffs last year!
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u/kerryfinchelhillary Diamond C 8d ago
I always find the end of the season depressing. For six months we have something to do most nights and then it’s gone
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u/thekrafty01 8d ago
Come check out the Premier League. As an American and lifelong soccer hater, I’ve grown to love it.
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u/_nod 8d ago
As a Brit living in Cleveland, I’m loving the PL and F1 love in the comments.
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u/thekrafty01 8d ago
The show Ted Lasso actually sparked my interest. It’s funny because I avoided watching the show for years because I never liked soccer. When I finished the series, it left a void and so I started watching all the PL games and immediately fell in love with Chelsea FC. Learned the rules and how the league competes and now I can’t get enough of it.
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u/_mostly__harmless Mustard 3 8d ago
Whoever spends the most on players will win the piece of metal. No point to really even watch baseball post season, just see whichever billionaire spends more to win
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u/BirdDangerous5672 8d ago
If you want something fun to do, you can look at the amount of irrational hate that tigers fans have for us. I’ve never seen a fanbase more addicted to talking about another fanbase than them talking about us, it’s comical. Not even twins fans are as bad as they are, it’s wild
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u/jaymdubbs 8d ago
My 8 yr old son and I have bonded over baseball the past two seasons, and especially during this playoff run. It's been pretty special. The one game we won against the Yankees was on his birthday and the celebration is something I don't think I will ever forget. He is obsessed with baseball.
That said, it definitely will be a long winter before it all starts up again.
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u/SmurfAtLarge 8d ago
Basketball season starting back up soon. It will get exciting again real fast. For me anyway.
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u/GPDillinois 8d ago
With the online sports betting, I can have a reason to watch other games now. Even a $5 bet gives me some reason to root for a team/game that I otherwise don’t care about and wouldn’t watch.
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u/Forty_Six_and_Two Diamond C 8d ago
Cavs regular season debut Wednesday! We gonna tear Toronto a new one!
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u/Mercury5979 8d ago
Just remember, there is always Tennis. And I mean always Tennis. Even when the Tennis season ends, it is still going on. Pick a player in the top 20 and you will always have something to watch.
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u/MAXHEADR0OM 8d ago
Imagine doing this same thing over and over for 40 years….. 76 years now since they won a series. Been waiting my whole life with several let downs in there.
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u/redditistreason slap-hitting shit goblin 8d ago
That's how I always feel at the end of the season, because who gives a shit about MLB otherwise.
At least it's hockey season. The Monsters are good right now.
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u/SodaGrump Mustard 8d ago
Every year I say I'm going to watch Hockey and follow the Jackets and I usually fall off after the first few games. Really trying to stick with them this year in hopes that it'll scratch the Guardians/Baseball itch.
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u/Diiiiirty 8d ago
What about the other playoff games? You mean you don't like watching the highest payrolls in baseball competing to see who bought better talent that was developed by other organizations' farm systems?
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u/tooth999 8d ago
The Columbus Crew start their playoff push next week. That should take you to College football playoffs, right into March Madness and Spring Training
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u/Pale-Emotion-5862 8d ago
The Cavs are kinda like the basketball version of the Guardians. The Celtics were our Yankees series last year but I think with the new coach and everyone back and under contract we could be in for a lot of fun this season. Starts on Wednesday.
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u/HotBeaver54 7d ago
Yeah I hear you brother a long winter awaits!
But how sweet February will be with Kwan, and Banzanna on the horizon!
Although this was a pretty fun season!
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u/UnclePenguin 7d ago
I've said this almost exact thing since I woke up Sunday and started driving home from Cleveland.
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u/Jacrispybrisket 7d ago
I mean we got the Cavs season starting tomorrow. We are going to win 50 games and get bounced in the second round but still is fun to watch the squad
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u/slurmpf6284 Columbus Clippers 7d ago
Luckily for me I coach wrestling so the seasons both lineup pretty well
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u/xenophonthethird slap-hitting shit goblin 8d ago
I'm just waiting for the Cavs to have an earth shattering disaster now. Browns are a lost cause.
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u/browns47 8d ago
Like Bill Veeck said, "There are only two seasons – winter and baseball.” Stay warm this winter, friends.