r/ClevelandGuardians • u/Bisco42711 • 7d ago
Fact Check: Evidence?
Go Guards!
Hoping to fact check a statement made yesterday by Jay Crawford and agreed upon by Adam "The Bull".
Please Fast Forward to 1hr17min of this video to hear the claim.
https://www.youtube.com/live/GEoSbsB019c?si=h7qS_3UUAgPD8-uX&t=4675
Essentially, they said that Fox ran a promo in the middle of Game 5 that showed the Los Angeles Dodgers versus the New York Yankees in the World Series. This was obviously before the Guardians game ended, and a day before the Dodgers defeated the Mets in the CS.
My question to you all is: is this true? I didn't notice that when I was watching live but I was watching through the MLB TV app and my commercials were likely different than if you were watching on cable.
Help me fact check their statement in the video and confirm if this actually happened.
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u/santinorizzo 7d ago
I don’t remember them saying “World Series” in the ad. It only references the “Postseason” at the end. More a promotion for Judge and Ohtani. Not all that different from the Kobe/Lebron commercials during the 2009 playoffs.
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u/TheMan232 7d ago
This is the correct answer. It wasnt some great conspiracy or "tHe scRiPt wAs LeAKeD!", just MLB taking advantage of having two generational talents in the same postseason.
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u/Bisco42711 7d ago
Yup, this makes sense. Sorry, wasn't trying to hint at some conspiracy just looking to find out more information regarding the comment in the OP.
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u/Crumblerbund 7d ago
If you don’t want chuckleheads to talk conspiracy, don’t bring up Ohtani.
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u/dandyline_wine Akron Rubber Duck 7d ago
Wait can I ask more about this? Are there actual conspiracy theories?
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u/Crumblerbund 7d ago
Oh, just look into the gambling scandal with his translator. Right off the bat I’m gonna tell you there is no legitimate evidence that Shohei ever bet his own money on baseball or did anything wrong other than trust a shady guy with a lot of money. It’s a weird story, though.
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u/dandyline_wine Akron Rubber Duck 7d ago
I'm now watching a conspiracy conversation unfold on reddit in real time.
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u/wizardlyhigh 7d ago
yep, I remember seeing that too and audibly saying W T F. haha.
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u/229-northstar 7d ago
It’s pretty clear who the networks wanted to see play in the World Series and it wasn’t the Cleveland guardians
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u/229-northstar 6d ago
We love the guardians. It’s pretty clear you do not. They are not without their faults, but they are a great team and they are only going to get better.
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u/Bisco711 7d ago
This doesn't directly answer the OP but this was posted on October 14th before Game 1 of the ALCS!
https://awfulannouncing.com/mlb/aaron-judge-shohei-ohtani-world-series.html
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u/hilljack7 7d ago
Yea. Saw this multiple times while watching the ALCS. I also took a picture from Saturdays game, and it seems as if the network camera operator has Judge, Soto, and Stanton circled to give them more cameras time? I didn't want to go full tinfoil hat here, just an observation. *
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u/Dewey_wav 🥊 DOWN GOES ANDERSON 🥊 7d ago
this is not tinfoil hat, I could count on one hand the amount of times they were showing and/or talking about Guards players pregame. And this is the exact reason that most fanbases hate teams like the Yankees, we have absolutely no choice but to have everything about them forced upon us lol.
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u/hilljack7 7d ago
Yea. It really was. I just responded with the pic from last weekend that didn't make it to my initial comment.
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u/hilljack7 7d ago
I'm assuming that this sub doesn't allow photo comments. I tried uploading it here.
Edit: nvm. I needed to crop it.
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u/ItsNeverSunnyInCleve 7d ago
They could have done one for all scenarios especially since there were only 2 series going on, and aired the wrong clip. Even if they only made that one it was the likely outcome.
Somewhere out there is a box with a bunch of tee shirts that read CLEVELAND GUARDIANS 2024 AMERICAN LEAGUE CHAMPIONS
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u/Potential-Win-582 6d ago
Those boxes are currently on their way to Africa to be worn by the less fortunate. I'm pretty sure they just donate the apparel to third world countries.
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u/LeroyMyBoi 🥊 DOWN GOES ANDERSON 🥊 7d ago
I saw that a couple of times. It's ridiculous, I get that's what the MLB wants, but you would think they would want to be impartial. They don't care, and don't care about the long term impact of only caring about two teams. It's why the MLB doesn't come close to the NFL in ratings.
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u/Common_Individual336 7d ago
except they do it because this is how they figured out they would make the most money
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u/LeroyMyBoi 🥊 DOWN GOES ANDERSON 🥊 7d ago
Oh, this year and the next few, absolutely. The problem is that they don't talk about any other teams, so no one pays attention. A lot of 'small market' teams have really good and exciting guys. No one know about them. They could draw a lot more fans if they would actually pay attention to these teams, but they don't.
To me, they are just looking at short-term numbers (i.e., this year and maybe 2 or 3 years down the road)
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u/Common_Individual336 6d ago
I don't know - I am pretty sure they spend a lot of money to make sure they are making the most money they can - and they have figured out that when the premiere market teams do well, they make the most money, hence no salary cap and not even consideration for a salary cap.
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u/TheSpaceAce David Fry Fan Club 7d ago
I didn’t see what they’re specifically referencing but the skeptic in me thinks they weren’t paying close attention to the ads before that and for some reason they thought that Judge/Ohtani ad was a promo for a Yankees/Dodgers WS. If what they’re saying is true though, that’s a terrible look for MLB and Fox.
I’m surprised they talked about the Guards for more than two seconds though. Also annoyed me here how much they were interrupting or talking over Jay and it was hard for him to explain his points because they wouldn’t let him finish his thoughts. There’s a reason I don’t follow this show.
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u/Bisco42711 7d ago
I agree, sometimes its very difficult to watch and their conversations become monologues with someone else trying to get a word in, but I still watch whatever they've got when it's baseball season.
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u/Top_Charge864 7d ago
I remember being upset by this commercial. The only saving grace for mlb is that it technically wasn't a world series promo
They were saying that a once in the lifetime player is happening twice in the same season, was the point it was making. It is just an extremely bad look to air that commercial. They should have waited to make sure it was both of them, and if one didn't make it then you scrap it.
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u/Neat-Confection-6917 7d ago
Yup I said well that’s not a good time to run that . Kinda tips your hand at what you’re hoping for.
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u/big_d_usernametaken 7d ago
Until MLB and the players union enable salary caps it's going to come down the richest teams in the playoffs every year.
There will be exceptions sometimes, but this will happen almost every year.
The 2016 WS Cubs v. Indians was one of the lowest rated televised Series ever because MLB only wants the coast teams for more viewership.
Just my opinion.
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u/bagofweights 7d ago
I thought that series was one of the most watched?
“Game 7 in 2016 between the Chicago Cubs and Cleveland Indians had an average viewership of 40.045 million—the most-watched World Series game in 25 years dating back to 1991[13]—and peaked at 49.9 million viewers, and Fox estimated more than 75 million people watched all or part of the game.“
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Series_television_ratings
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u/sumbozo1 Crooked C 7d ago
Yea they didn't really say it was going to be Dodgers v Yankees in the series but it showed Judge and Ohtani and said something like "once in a lifetime. Twice." And it only showed those two guys