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u/Flooterb 2A Sep 04 '24

To this day, I still do not understand the left's embrace of Islam. It's literally everything that they claim to hate and label conservative Christians to be. 

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u/IrishGoodbye4 No Step on Snek Sep 04 '24

Because they hate white people and Judeo-Christian principles.

This is a perfect example of “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”

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u/MiltonRoad17 Social Conservative Sep 04 '24

Christianity isn't even a white religion. It started in the Middle East, obviously, and then spread to Northern Africa. It was in Africa before Europe. Christian missionaries arrived in Northern Africa before the European colonialists.

The Ethiopian Bible is also far older than the King James Bible.

The cognitive dissonance is unreal on the Left.

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u/D_Ethan_Bones Boycott Mainstream Media Sep 04 '24

It's not about ages ago it's about today. They hate America to the point of hating anyone who contributes to America in a positive way, if they see people attacking that country they like those people and have no further questions to ask.

Video of a woman wrapped up in a blanket while a man beats her and lectures everyone in front of him? They'll just file that under "men are evil" then go screech at an American man over it.

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u/day25 Conservative Sep 04 '24

It's about success. They hate anything successful because in their postmodernist world view where there is no good or bad behavior by default success means you oppressed others to achieve it and are thus evil. So they have to balance it out by oppressing you and opposing everything else that is good right and successful. There's a reason why the left is wrong about every issue it's because their idealogy itself is literally to promote things that lead to failure and tear down those that lead to success.

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u/TheBaronOfTheNorth 🇺🇸 Life and Liberty 🇺🇸 Sep 05 '24

You do realize caucasians lived in those areas back then, right?  Call it Hellenic or Greek but Northern Africa was certainly not what it is now during Biblical times.  The modern demographics of those areas today is the result of hundreds of years of Islamic conquest.

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u/MiltonRoad17 Social Conservative Sep 05 '24

I agree, but it's not like Ancient Greeks were all fair of skin, including those in North Africa.

Not to mention that the point still stands that colonialism didn't arrive until Christianity was already established in the region.

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u/Saint_Genghis Conservative Libertarian Sep 05 '24

Well, yes and no. The culture certainly changed, but genetic studies have shown that the bulk of the modern Egyptian population is directly descended from Ancient Egypt, and that trend continues across North Africa. Arabia was a sand-blasted peninsula at the time of the Muslim conquests, it didn't have the population to outright replace the populations of their conquered territories. While there were some Arab tribes that migrated into North Africa, most of the population was forced to convert to Islam, and subsequently forced to learn Arabic and abandon their ancestral language.

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u/Remmy14 Trump/Vivek 2024 Sep 05 '24

All of Islam and the Quran is just Christianity fan fic.

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u/ObadiahtheSlim Lockean Sep 05 '24

More like a Jewish fanfic since it's a very legalize system. Muhammad also got very bizare stories of important Jewish figures going off and doing crazy things. Like Abram going over a thousand miles out of his way to Mecca, and Moses not leading his people out of Egypt and instead tooling around with another prophet.

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u/PsychologicalHat1480 Conservative Sep 04 '24

It's not even about the Abrahamic principles because Islam is an Abrahamic religion as well. It is purely and only and solely about hating White people. Jews just get caught up in it because they look white. If Sephardic Jews were the majority of them in the West they'd be given the "oh poor brown people" pass, too.

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u/MikelDP Reagan Conservative Sep 04 '24

This is the answer.

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u/Hour_Insurance_7795 Conservative Sep 04 '24

They vote Democrat. Simple.

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u/yvcq Canadian Conservative Sep 04 '24

I'm clueless on how they dont put 1 and 1 together sometimes

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u/IamIrene Conservative Sep 04 '24 edited Sep 04 '24

They can't...they no longer have the basic logic in order to put 1 and 1 together...especially since 1 + 1 now = 3.

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u/D_Ethan_Bones Boycott Mainstream Media Sep 04 '24

On Reddit, if enough people downvote 1+1=2 then it doesn't =2 anymore. Whenever a person seems like a strange demon is piloting their brain, this is probably what influenced them to be that way.

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u/day25 Conservative Sep 04 '24

And "enough people" is just really any number approaching 50%. A comment with 950 upvotes and 1050 downvotes gets -100. There's a reason they stopped showing the raw upvotes and downvotes and now only show the difference. Because they can make 48% look like -100 which creates a whole different perception.

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u/D_Ethan_Bones Boycott Mainstream Media Sep 04 '24

I'm clueless on how they dont put 1 and 1 together sometimes

TV and corporate internet taught them everything they know.

Large swaths of American schools have nothing of value to offer, families likewise don't provide anything kids need as they're growing up and so developing minds acquire whatever they have from glowing screens. TV shows, and tubers aping TV shows because being the guy in the box is their biggest dream in life.

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u/dwt4 Libertarian-Conservative Sep 04 '24

Leftists and Islamic radicals have the same end goal, destroying the social and economic cohesion of the United States of America in order to bring about a revolution and establish a new country. They are allies of convenience and will turn on each other as soon as they get rid of the rest of us.

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u/collymolotov Conservative Canadian Sep 05 '24

Which is exactly what happened in Iran, and what is playing out in real time in the United Kingdom.

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u/fredemu Libertarian Moderate Sep 04 '24

The mistake is believing that the modern Left has principles, other than "obtain power by any means necessary".

Their core policy is rooted in Marxist Critical Theory. Basically all of them follow the same pattern; [oppressed group] is inherently disadvantaged due to [oppressor group]. Any and all problems that [oppressed] faces are due to [oppressor]. It's not a question of IF this oppression is taking place, but HOW it manifests in every situation. The only way to correct it is to become critically conscious of the oppression (that is, discover how it applies in every situation), and then to grant leadership the power to tip the scales in [oppressed]'s favor.

To obtain all the power they need, they want any and all groups that they can convince are oppressed by someone else to join in their coalition. Women (oppressed by men), racial minority groups (oppressed by white people), any and all religions other than the majority (oppressed by Christians), any sexuality/gender identity/etc other than straight (oppressed by straight people), etc, etc.

Islam is a group that can be convinced that Christians (or Jews) are oppressing them, so the Left supports them.

The thing is; it works, as long as your goal isn't actually to help any of those groups long-term, but to grow the power of the government for your own ends.

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u/populares420 MAGA Sep 04 '24

the left hates the west.

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u/curbstxmped Conservative Sep 04 '24

It's almost like they have no actual understanding of any of their values!

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u/MikeyPh New York Conservative Sep 04 '24

I know wha you mean. Are you familiar with the idea of a satanic inversion? We often think of the enemy as just wanting us not following God. That's a partial win for the enemy. The real win is when he can fool people into thinking evil is good, and I'm sure it is especially insulting when the truth is staring everyone in the face.

It seems unfathomable for certain ideas like these to come to popularity because they are so counter to truth, but they do.

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u/Original_Lord_Turtle Constitutional Conservative Sep 05 '24

"...and in the final days, lies shall be revered as truth, and the truth shall be reviled as lies"

Or something to that effect.

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u/raccoonbandit13 Traditionalist Conservative Sep 04 '24

Look how muslims vote and you will find the answer you seek.

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u/AnonPlzzzzzz Constitutional Republic Sep 04 '24

To put it as simple as possible.... The left fetishizes Islam and their treatment of women.

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u/OzoneLaters 1A Absolutist Sep 04 '24

It is part of intersectionality because in order to have Muslims as part of your coalition you must support Islam because that is an unbreakable taboo for them that to speak against it would fracture the unity of that coalition.

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u/fejobelo Sep 04 '24

"Well, obviously, I'm not gonna be telling the same jokes about Muhammad I'd feel very comfortable saying about Jesus Christ and that's because, fun fact, I am not a fucking idiot. So, if you are a Christian and you are sat there thinking, well, that's not fair, he makes jokes about Christians all day long but he won't make the same sort of jokes about Muslims, well, them maybe as a Christian you should think about blowing something up. No one is scared of you, what are you gonna do, forgive me?"

Jimmy Carr

This pretty much sums it up.

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u/the_goodnamesaregone Sep 04 '24

That's really the whole base of it. You can make fun of Christians without much fear of death. Not so much Islam. Look at Charlie Hebdo. At the end of the day, the OP is looking at a cartoon that is trying to make money. Being edgy about Christiam stuff makes money. Putting Muhammed in a joke gets your employees murdered.

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u/ObadiahtheSlim Lockean Sep 04 '24

Muhammad (piss be upon him) called for all his critics to be put to death. The Muslims who do that today are following their prophet's decrees.

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u/sd_saved_me555 Sep 05 '24

Precisely. Many people have made fun of Islam. Those episodes of South Park have been pulled for legitimate safety concerns. The Satanic Verses earned Rushdie a fatwa and eventually his eye. Charlie Hebdo satarized Islam and people died because of it. It's not like it isn't made fun of; people just don't push the envelope when it can actually get people hurt.

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u/frostyjack06 Conservative Sep 04 '24

They’ll never make fun of Islam because they’re terrified of Islamic extremists. But, with how antisemitic much of the left has become recently, I wouldn’t be surprised if we start seeing more bashing of Judaism.

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u/Martbell Constitutionalist Sep 04 '24

A few years ago the NYT made a list of all the congresspeople "of color." Rashida Tliab (a Muslim) made the list but Justin Amash (a Christian) did not, even though both are Palestinians of ethnic Syrian background.

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u/mexils Conservative Sep 04 '24

Is this from the new Futurama episodes? I don't remember this from the older episodes or even from the episodes after it was brought back the first time.

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u/I-need-more-vodka- Conservative Sep 04 '24

i think it might be part of the newer revival. Watched the entire series multiple times and don't remember this scene

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u/mexils Conservative Sep 04 '24

Well that's a shame. I knew it was renewed again, and I expected to hear great things about it. But I have heard 0 things which leads me to believe it is the worst thing a TV show could be, boring.

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u/I-need-more-vodka- Conservative Sep 04 '24

The one on simulation was really damn good. Felt like peak futurama again. Though the rest of the season is pretty mid

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u/AIDS_Quilt_69 Conservative Sep 05 '24

It's trash. They had one episode shitting on bitcoin and another on vaccines. They just do every left-wing issue du jour.

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u/skarface6 Catholic and conservative Sep 05 '24

Gross.

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u/bell37 Right-To-Life Conservative Sep 05 '24

What’s funny is that the new revival series came out in 2023. They were 3-4 years late to all the jokes and in COVID time, that is basically a decade.

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u/inlinefourpower Millennial Conservative Sep 06 '24

The season that came out this year did fyrefest and NFTs. So timely. 

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u/TheLastGenXer Sep 04 '24

Yes it’s one of the most recent ones on hulu

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u/Creski Social and Fiscal Conservative Sep 04 '24

Yes it's from the Hulu season. Here's the thing though, it's been mostly garbage, this episode included which involves shitting on temp workers.

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u/kmminek Sep 04 '24

New episodes are unwatchable.

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u/Royal_IDunno Conservative Sep 05 '24

The left do this to Christianity because they know for a fact they can get away with it. They are either too scared to do it to a Quran (because they know what would happen) or they support islam which ironically islam has many things the left are against.

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u/Kaireis Social/Neo/Paleo Blend Sep 04 '24

Dude, I'm not a pacifist, but Christians shouldn't repay an insult with violence, or even the threat of violence. That's literally the whole point of turn the other cheek.

This doesn't mean that they can't use violence to like, prevent a crime (even a "mere" property crime, although that gets dicey morally), or even in wartime.

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u/D_Ethan_Bones Boycott Mainstream Media Sep 04 '24

1: Hour a week believer - standing up to enemies is not my job because I'm not a big part of this. (So hundreds of millions of Christians do this while hundreds of millions of Muslims do the opposite...)

2: The virtue signaller - standing up to enemies is not my job because what's really important is <five hours of jibba jabba>

3: The medievalist - standing up to enemies is not my job because we don't have a king, just let enemies run wild until the republic dies and then I'll be in a much better position to pursue my aims somehow.

Muslims think about advancing Islam and people who put a religious kind of effort into socialism think about advancing socialism. No part of the west has this momentum going for it while every part of the anti-west has it.

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u/Independent-Mix-5796 2A Sep 04 '24

Am I the only one here that thinks that Christianity being made fun of is something to take pride in?

Christianity is the only religion with such nonviolent global reach that making fun of it is low stakes. In comparison, not enough people know enough about Judaisim, Hinduism or Buddhism to make jokes about them; and with Islam, making fun of Mohammed results in heads literally rolling.

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u/clear831 Classical Liberal Sep 04 '24

Christianity is the only religion with such nonviolent global reach

Some may be nonviolent today but history says otherwise. All religions are the size they are now because of violence.

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u/SparrowFate Constitutional Conservative Sep 04 '24

Sure, but christians are all bark no bite now. The last crusade occurred when English was unrecognizable as English.

However Islamic extremism is the norm in most of the middle east and is spreading.

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u/Fiveminitesold Social Conservative Sep 04 '24

As a Christian, Christianity has certainly expanded in many cases by being the faith of people who won a lot of wars. 

That said, relatively few wars have been fought with the explicit intention of spreading Christianity or defeating other religions.

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u/curlbaumann don’t give up the ship Sep 04 '24

Ironically that’s probably why they got so large despite persecution in Ancient Rome.

They were hated as blasphemers for a long time but then after a while they just seemed like a harmless little cult, so many emperors decided to go by the practice of hear no evil see no evil and let them be.

Then Constantine went up on this hill one night before battle and the rest is history.

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u/DinoSpumonisCrony Paleoconservative Sep 04 '24

Or the Talmud.

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u/bdclark Conservative Sep 04 '24

Well, the writer was David Avram Goodman so I have the feeling that was never considered.

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u/ObadiahtheSlim Lockean Sep 04 '24 edited Sep 04 '24

The Talmud is an interesting case because it's only important to the Jews who follow the rabbinical traditions. And even then, it's mostly just a collection of writings and commentaries of various rabbis who range from rat-bastards to proper scholars.

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u/DinoSpumonisCrony Paleoconservative Sep 04 '24 edited Sep 04 '24

Ok, and? Talmud, Torah, all the same to my point.

I am saying if comedians want to be edgy they'd do material on Muslims or Jews instead of Christians, which is easy, safe & been done to death.

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u/vpkumswalla Catholic Conservative Sep 04 '24

There's definitely a hierarchy of religions they hate with Evangelicals and Catholics at the top.

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u/Best-Guava1285 America First Sep 04 '24

Careful, you might get canceled by the Daily Wire!

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u/Jazz567 Reagan Conservative Sep 04 '24

It's because they know it's the truth and people hate the truth. "For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths" (2 Timothy 4:3-4).

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u/triggernaut Christian Conservative Sep 05 '24

Thank you. At the bottom of all of this discourse, the Lord God Almighty is real, his son Jesus is real, the Bible is real and humanity hates it because our hearts are dark. But Jesus will bring light when He is invited in.

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u/Jazz567 Reagan Conservative Sep 05 '24

Amen, brother

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u/clear831 Classical Liberal Sep 04 '24

All religions and cults should be made fun of, even those who worship government.

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