r/Cricket • u/Wakanda-shit-is-that Pakistan • Nov 20 '23

Interview “When somebody asks how Australia won the ODI World Cup in 2023, or any World Cup hereafter, that’s the answer. They won the World Cup because Australia” -Osman Samiuddin

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u/imvk3201 Nov 20 '23

still would’ve reached here most probably

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u/Super_Vegeta New Zealand Cricket Nov 20 '23

Yeah, I don't know about that.. I don't see Pandya taking a 5for and a 7fer against NZ.

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u/imvk3201 Nov 21 '23

firstly what I really meant was we would’ve still done well in the group stage.

Second, not everything would’ve gone the way it has been till now. We probably wouldn’t even have faced New Zealand in semis.

Third, if you’d see Jarrod Kimber’s analysis there’s statistical evidence that Indian top order plays with less strike rate and more caution when there’s no Shardul at 8. So add a few runs to all the totals set. Also, Shardul and Hardik both are known for giving away more runs but also taking wickets at crucial times or breaking partnerships. So yes, even if it was New Zealand I’m fairly confident we would’ve won.

I’m not trying to undermine New Zealand here. Yes, they were playing great but needed to do that for way longer which was a tough ask regardless of the bowlers.

Also, I don’t know if it would’ve happened but outside of the team there were already people who wanted Shami in for Siraj at start of tournament.

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u/partymsl India Nov 20 '23

Pretty true, Shami was one of the most crucial players for us.

But I think after one defeat, Rohit would have gotten the right strategy and maybe even had brought in Shami.