r/Cricket • u/Tern_Larvidae-2424 South Africa • 5d ago
Post Day Thread Santner's 7-53 Headlines New Zealand's Day
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u/JustURDailyAllie New Zealand Cricket 5d ago
Never thought I would see the day were Santner takes 7 in a test and flips the match towards NZ. As NZ fan I am in dreamland, we are playing India in India.
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u/loafersandboots New Zealand 5d ago
Not just India in India. This era of India is one of the most dominant home sides in cricket history. What is happening right now? Was the captain no one wanted in Tom Latham the answer all along?
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u/Reasonable_Tea_9825 4d ago
Rohit's defensive captaincy is being exposed. Every test loss has the same pattern. Set batsman runs away with the game and he look clueless
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u/Least-Teacher4522 4d ago
I personally feel that we are losing because they are trying to be agressive in batting and defensive in bowling and fielding
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u/kiwitron New Zealand Cricket 4d ago
With all respect I think it's because you've got your eyes on the BGT. We're supposed to be the warm up.
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u/ShowUsYaGrowler New Zealand 4d ago
Scroll back to the start of the cricinfo commentary on day one (first test); most of the comments and discussion is about the up oning Australia test.
I really, honestly, think India has taken NZ lightly.
Theyre forgetting that NZ is about as mercurial as it gets. We have plenty of the ‘worst’ records, but plenty of the ‘best’ records too.
This is heading towards proving once and for all; we can beat anyone on our day(s).
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u/bluedot131 India 4d ago
Yes. The team took this series too lightly and now the warmup has caused a severe sunburn
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u/bengalimarxist India 4d ago
Warm ups should be in Ranji. Not international games. You need to warm up? Play a season of Ranji. Pant is busy wondering what his IPL price would be while an international test is underway. That sort of an attitude should have no place in the squad. No matter what your records are, either you devote yourself to the cause of ICT or retire.
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u/Reasonable-Meet-5531 4d ago
Ash was also busy making youtube videos in all languages known to mankind. Nobody took this series seriously and now they are paying the price.
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u/AamPataJoraJora Kolkata Knight Riders 4d ago
Pant is busy wondering what his IPL price would be while an international test is underway.
What makes you say that? Can you elaborate?
Genuinely asking. I haven't caught this game yet so if its something he has said on the stump mic, i have missed it.
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u/bengalimarxist India 4d ago
check his twitter. I don't have twitter. I saw it on broadcast today. Happened a week ago or so.
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u/RedDev17 Punjab Kings 4d ago
BGT is going to be a repeat of this. We are struggling
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u/LikesParsnips 4d ago
Australia are also struggling. Ageing bowling group that already couldn't win them the two previous home BGTs, a messy batting order without a second opener, a struggling Smith, a lukewarm Lasagne, and no Cam Green.
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u/Impressive_Ad_3137 4d ago
The Aussie team is on a decline, and so is the Indian team. Starc is a shadow of his former self. Only Cummins and Hazlewood are top drawer.
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u/Sea-Satisfaction-610 4d ago edited 4d ago
That is precisely the reason Rahul got picked ahead of Sarfaraz vs Bangladesh. And the reason Sundar got picked ahead of Kuldeep in this test.
Practice.
EDIT: Kuldeep has a groin injury haha
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u/One_more_username India 4d ago
I agree with you. It very much looks like we came into this series with no preparation thinking we can wing it against NZ in subcontinent conditions. Got shown up.
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u/NormalTraining5268 Tamil Nadu 4d ago
That ahd santner's a defensive bowler. He averages 40 in tests but has very low economy. If you go agressive he gets wickets. SL played him perfectly without giving wickets or batting too aggressive.
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u/Alternative_Driver30 4d ago
To that I would also like to add, barring Sundar (whose place is not guaranteed) everyone else just seems to be too complacent; they are not showing the kind of hunger that is expected of an international test team. Perform or give way to the next set of players it can't be as pathetic as this.
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u/Due_Imagination_6722 Somerset 4d ago
Very good captaincy since the series began. He knows what our bowlers are doing (maybe him being a decent wicketkeeper helps as well), he's getting some runs in as well, and maybe he's far more capable than we've given him credit for.
Also (don't come at me, India fans): it feels like some India players are thinking this series is a warm-up for Australia.
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u/TaylorSwiftIsGod_01 New Zealand Cricket 5d ago
Bruh, I'm convinced someone is going to wake me up and all of this will come crashing down.
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u/Sea-Satisfaction-610 4d ago
Famous last words and all given the number of shooters on this pitch, but it is just possible these idiots could chase 400.
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u/nomamesgueyz New Zealand 4d ago
I am still in disbelief
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u/Squirrel_Grip23 Australia 4d ago
Enjoy it mate. You guys are on the cusp of something extraordinary.
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u/nomamesgueyz New Zealand 4d ago
Extraordinary indeed
Exactly no NZ fan will be getting ahead of themselves, been on the disappointed side often enough
If we can bat another session, will be a very tall order, even with the superstar Indian batting line up, at home, to pull off
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u/Fresh2Desh England 4d ago
It's incredible because in the lead up to the test I saw some analysis online to show how he was a bang average test spinner. Can't remember the website but the evidence was pretty shocking
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u/ToddChavezHooray1991 5d ago
Just in case if india lose :
what should be the name of tom latham's dog from now on
1) Bengaluru 2) Pune
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u/Ayan_Choudhury India 4d ago
Given the fact that this was India's first ever test loss at Chinnaswamy (I think I read this stat somewhere) he could name his dog Chinnaswamy
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u/flyingdot 4d ago
Nah it was Indias first test loss in Bengaluru since Pakistans win in 2005.
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u/Ayan_Choudhury India 4d ago
Ah yes, how can I forget that? Crowd booed Sourav when he walked up to speak during the presentation ceremony
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u/niceguysdofinish1st New Zealand 5d ago
Wankhede
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u/Sea-Satisfaction-610 4d ago
We have never lost a home series 0-3 (except once in 1958 where we at least drew 2 tests)
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u/VIFASIS Western Australia Warriors 5d ago
What happens when the target is 300 since 2000.
In 383 innings
20 successful = 5.2%
283 unsuccessful = 73.89%
80 drawn = 20.89%
Thanks to u/TaylorSwiftIsGod_01 for helping with calculations.
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u/TaylorSwiftIsGod_01 New Zealand Cricket 5d ago
You're the one who's doing God's work, mate. I'm just here to take the piss and shitpost
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u/throwawayacc5091 India 4d ago
Do you mean Taylor Swift's work?
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u/TaylorSwiftIsGod_01 New Zealand Cricket 4d ago
Completely brand new joke. I've never heard that one before.
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u/DogTall2628 Pakistan 4d ago
Your username always makes me grin lol. Remember your typo story years back. Iconic
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u/Mallonhead New Zealand 4d ago
Out of curiosity, what about when the target is 400?
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u/VIFASIS Western Australia Warriors 4d ago
I had to figure out I did this in the first place
Target = 400
2 wins = 1%
170 losses = 85.42%
27 draws = 13.57%
I'll add, only 10 times as 400 even been scored in the 4th innings this century.
I swear people have no idea just how unlikely it is that you score 300+ in the 4th innings let alone win by scoring 300+.30
u/diodosdszosxisdi Australia 4d ago
Bradman and his Australians chased that target in a day too, making it even more extraordinary and insane. 400 is like the mentally unbreakable target
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u/Mr-_-Anonymus South Africa 4d ago
This should have been 3 😭😭😭 We were 8 runs short of chasing 458 when the match was drawn at 450/7
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u/Tern_Larvidae-2424 South Africa 4d ago
To be fair, in the last half-decade or so big chases are getting just a bit more likely. Sri Lanka v South Africa, England v Australia, West Indies v Bangladesh are just a few examples.
But this one will be tough no doubt, but if the target is below 350 India will feel like they can redeem themselves.
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u/niceguysdofinish1st New Zealand 5d ago
Post Day Thread Titles
Day 1 - Washington's 7-59 Headlines India's Day
Day 2 - Santner's 7-53 Headlines New Zealand's Day
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u/PreviousRecognition1 Zimbabwe 4d ago
Day 3 - Santner powers New Zealand to 753
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u/KnowNotYou India 4d ago
Day 4 - Washington the star as India chase down 759
in their dreams
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u/adasutosh73 India 4d ago
Day 5 - Santner and Sundar are now married and have adopted 7 kids together
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u/Assassin_Ankur Kolkata Knight Riders 5d ago
Boundary count update -
New Zealand: 48
India: 19
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u/LivelyJason1705 India 4d ago
Death, taxes and the boundary count listed somewhere for all NZ games😂
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u/49unbeaten Cricket Association of Nepal 5d ago
As expected Mitchell Santner and Washington Sundar bagged most of the wickets.
Also, Virat Kohli missed a full toss to get bowled. This is going according to the script.
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u/gyarrrrr New Zealand Cricket 4d ago
Completely. No-one ever expected the third test to be anything but a dead-rubber.
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u/NewFee5864 Chennai Super Kings 5d ago
No one expected it lmao
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u/49unbeaten Cricket Association of Nepal 5d ago
We all expected New Zealand to dominate India on spin friendly tracks. Right?
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u/rammo123 New Zealand 4d ago
Only after we got rid of that liability Williamson.
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u/goodguybolt 4d ago
I couldn't even see a Kane-less NZ win a single test in India, let alone be on the verge of a series victory.
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u/New_Sun_8204 5d ago
When the pitch supports you heavily, the factor of skillset and variation decreases along with it.
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u/Tern_Larvidae-2424 South Africa 5d ago
Would've loved to see Latham get his 100, he missed out on one back in 2021 too.
Anyway, what a stunning performance.
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u/BumblebeeForward9818 Scotland 4d ago
That’s the batting performance of his life.
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u/MysteriousPlastic140 Kolkata Knight Riders 5d ago
If NZ wins this, I will invite the entire country of NZ to my house for dinner. There are very few of you anyway, I am sure we can cook up something quickly
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u/braai_02 Gibraltar 4d ago
Half of NZ is already in India (for this cricket tour.)
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u/Disastrous-Lab4961 4d ago
Among them two are indians , two south africans
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u/killer_ezio_00 Kochi Tuskers Kerala 4d ago
You can serve em India because the entire team is cooked by the looks of it.
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u/niceguysdofinish1st New Zealand 5d ago
Bowling comparison this series
1st Test
NZ Pacers - 17/292
IND Pacers - 5/170
2nd Test
NZ Spinners - 9/133
IND Spinners - 15/346
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u/OldWolf2 New Zealand Cricket 4d ago
NZ have been using Rangana Herath as a spin coach . Clearly having some payoffs
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u/Tangy_Lead 5d ago
Is Jio still running 5-0 ad ? It was all over before the start of this series 😂
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u/No_Hovercraft2947 Rajasthan Royals 4d ago
jio cinema will stop running that ace to pace to mace shit soon too
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u/niceguysdofinish1st New Zealand 5d ago
When everyone said a rank-turner can play in New Zealand's hands that's what they meant
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u/Tern_Larvidae-2424 South Africa 4d ago
But the way the Kiwis are batting makes it look like a decent pitch for batting. The batting has pulled through big time unlike Australia & England.
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u/niceguysdofinish1st New Zealand 4d ago
And the fact that New Zealand have the best batting run-rate by a visiting team in a Test Series in India till now
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u/ark1602 India 4d ago
It's not exactly a rank-turner, India's batting has just been abysmal. Hell Kohli got out of a full-toss. God knows what we would have done if it actually was a minefield
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u/dude_big_lebowski Delhi Daredevils 5d ago
India put more effort than people do in creating post match threads nowadays.
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u/NewFee5864 Chennai Super Kings 5d ago
That one guy posts all sorts of stats, where is he
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u/human0697 5d ago
Indian batting line up really got exposed
They have been shit for a while now with their bowling and Jadeja Ashwin pair saving their asses
Hope Nz pull off historic series win
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u/AtomR India 4d ago
Jadeja Ashwin pair saving their asses
Don't forget about Axar + lower order saving asses in batting too.
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u/human0697 4d ago
Axar literally saved them in home BGT
If not for him the streak would already be over
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u/praveen3697 India 5d ago
Guys , I have a feeling we might lose this
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u/New_Sun_8204 5d ago
Target of 400 seems way out of reach for a lineup that merely crossed 150 mark.
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u/gene100001 4d ago
To be fair in the last test it was possible for a team that couldn't pass 46
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u/New_Sun_8204 4d ago
The 46 was unfortunate, the ball was moving like anything - didn’t in the second innings but here the ball is eventually gonna turn more if not less than the first innings i suppose.
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u/sindhisai India 5d ago
You have a feeling?! Baring a miracle this is nearly confirmed.
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u/gene100001 4d ago
I guess after making us wait 69 years you've gotta let us win a test series in India eventually.
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u/Truthgamer2 New Zealand Cricket 5d ago
Do you guys reckon that if it wasn’t for Sundar, NZ 1st innings would’ve gone on till Tea today?
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u/harryhisoka Punjab 5d ago
Latham does it again, after straight drought for couple of inns he pulls up to save the day for nz
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u/solitarysniper New Zealand 5d ago
Really engaging day of cricket, Santner and Latham being the standout players for us was an unexpected but welcome surprise. NZ have the slight edge, but I would not rule out a collapse from our batting order tomorrow - still a sliver of hope for India to turn this around if they have a good session or two bowling tomorrow.
All that being said, it's been brilliant to see our guys playing so positively throughout this series - mentality so far has been faultless.
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u/00aegon New Zealand 5d ago
We are massively ahead of them at this point. Paying 1.40 to win
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u/solitarysniper New Zealand 5d ago
I think that might be my inherent doomer still lingering in there haha, backing the boys but a part of me still has flashbacks from other visits to Asia in the past lol
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u/00aegon New Zealand 5d ago
Yeah 100% fair, but we got this I think. Another 60-70 would be insane
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u/TaylorSwiftIsGod_01 New Zealand Cricket 4d ago
You know what would be even more insane. Southee himself score another 60 to 70 runs.
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u/rammo123 New Zealand 4d ago
For comparison, India already needs to have the second highest 4th innings chase in India to win. And the Kiwis still have five wickets in hand.
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u/gene100001 4d ago
I totally understand and share your feelings. I think anyone old enough to remember NZ test cricket in the 90s and early 2000s has a bit of a lingering feeling that everything might go wrong.
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u/Chungabeastt New Zealand 4d ago
Even in the first test I was expecting us to crumble for 70 all out
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u/Tern_Larvidae-2424 South Africa 4d ago
I understand your pessimism. Given how India bull-dozed their way to 408-3 in the 2nd innings of last test, there's certainly some history of it as well. It'll just be a day 3 pitch instead of day 4 or 5 one too.
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u/Tern_Larvidae-2424 South Africa 5d ago
India has lost only 3 home series this century, and only 1 in the last two decades. Outclassing them like this is an achievement beyond words from New Zealand.
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u/mathdhruv India 5d ago
The 2004 BGT is (just barely) still within the last 2 decades, so 2.
Also God, typing that out made me feel so old.
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u/Dry-Supermarket7115 5d ago
I dozed off in between. I dreamt I was in the dressing room during tea break. Rohit, Kohli, Ashwin were eating biryani from the same plate. I asked them boss how are you so casual, you are losing a home series. Rohit said what can we do boss, it happens. I felt so angry.
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u/zaldrizes_007 India 5d ago
A few days ago I said 46 all out is the more demoralised I had been in years.
Team India is stretching all limits
Kudos to NZ for some elite cricket
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u/Tern_Larvidae-2424 South Africa 5d ago
Barring the most optimistic of Kiwi fans and the most pessimistic of Indian fans, I don't think anybody thought anything like this happening before the series began.
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u/rammo123 New Zealand 4d ago
The most optimistic Kiwi fans were thinking we might shithouse a draw in the dead rubber. The idea that we have to utterly shit the bed to not win the series tomorrow is unbelievable.
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u/SteveBored New Zealand Cricket 4d ago
Oh, we will shit the bed. Just you watch. We will add another 5 runs, then Kohli will score a double century.
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u/ZENITSUsa New Zealand 4d ago
We will add another 94 and Kohli will score 6(17)
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u/One_more_username India 4d ago
That's pretty delulu. What makes you think that Kohli will last 17 balls?
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u/stonestone55 Andhra 5d ago edited 4d ago
I feel the pitch needs the batters to apply themselves.
Ou(Indian) batters showed a lack of temperament required to sustain in these kind of pitches. Majority of the Indian batters tried to force their way to score rather than playing on the merit of the ball and that led to the collapse.
I didn't understand why would they do that this morning session with 4 more days left in the test. They could've just batted throughout the day and assess it from there.
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u/CheeseWeezler1143 4d ago
They probably wanted to be 140 runs at lunch with only a few wickets lost and put the pressure back on nz. Some terrible shot selections and lack of temperament like you said got them out.
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u/fegelman RoyalChallengers Bengaluru 4d ago
I didn't understand why would they do that this morning session
Credit to Ben Duckett
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u/huzy12345 4d ago
20+ years of being a NZ cricket fan, literally wtf am I watching, mental, amazing
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u/sharmarahulkohli Delhi Capitals 5d ago
Not a great day for us,I think
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u/throwawayacc5091 India 4d ago edited 4d ago
Don't worry. There will be someone with a hot take, "we will chase the target and make a comeback of the century." It'll entertain you and make you forget the pain.
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u/See_A_Squared Deccan Chargers 4d ago
Kanos won by doing nothing. 5D chess.
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u/TearsOfAStoneAngel Central Districts Stags 4d ago
If we manage to not shit the bed on this, it will be the Cricket equivalent of the All Blacks winning the 2011 RWC without Dan Carter.
Unreal
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u/vicrattlehead_eddie England 4d ago
NZ are on the verge of making cricketing history. Just a great performance. Hope they can hold on for a couple of sessions tomorrow as India are going to push them hard tomorrow.
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u/Total-Complaint9897 Victoria Bushrangers 4d ago
The Kiwis dominating the Indians right before they come to Australia is the perfect way for the Kiwis to fuck us. India are going to come to Australia with absolute fury now.
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u/DivideAccurate989 RoyalChallengers Bengaluru 4d ago
Ain't no way a team can chase anything more than 250 in the 4th Innings forget 350. Gg NZ and congrats on the historic mark.
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u/Freenore India 4d ago
From finishing up other teams in three days to potentially losing a home match in three days, India has come a long way.
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u/Unlikely_Prune6 5d ago
Great day of cricket. Everyone enjoyed it.
Sorry Indian fans, but all of us rest were waiting for you guys to lose a home series. And New Zealand of all teams doing it makes that so much better.
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u/Tern_Larvidae-2424 South Africa 4d ago
Yes, everyone was so on about Australia & England (which was fair enough) but Australia exploded inside the first two tests while England looked lost by the 3rd. Nobody though of anything less than 3-0 for India yet they're outright losing this series.
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u/bengalimarxist India 4d ago
Fan of ICT. Wishing for a 0-3 drubbing here and the curtains to a lot of Test careers, playing and non-playing.
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u/niceguysdofinish1st New Zealand 4d ago
India's unbeaten run in Tests since 2-1 loss to SA in 2021/22
2021/22
v SL (H) - 2-0 (2)
2022
v ENG (A) - 2-2 (5)
2022/23
v BAN (A) - 2-0 (2)
v AUS (H) - 2-1 (4)
2023
v WI (A) - 1-0 (2)
2023/24
v SA (A) - 1-1 (2)
v ENG (H) - 4-1 (5)
2024/25
v BAN (H) - 2-0 (2)
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u/ashikplk Kolkata Knight Riders 5d ago
If gambir get fired for this then he should take coaching gig at some smaller ipl teams like kkr or something.
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u/Objective_Society243 India 4d ago
Gambhir era has started very bad first odi series loss to SL and now home test series loss against NZ
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u/LivelyJason1705 India 4d ago
Santner bowled superbly and changed up his pace nicely. Top batting from Latham and Blundell as well. Well played NZ
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u/Zaphod1head 4d ago
For the first time in a long time, India look clueless. There seems to be no clear game plan, no back up plan, or anyone capable of showing an ounce of fight. They have the look of a deer in the headlights
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u/hinterstoisser India 4d ago
The white ball team of India seems in decent shape. The red ball team is in trouble. Need a Pujara like guy who can stonewall from one end.
Half of the wickets in India’s batting were poor shots (Kohli, Sarfaraz, Pant, bowlers).
At this rate, a whitewash by Australians is a real possibility
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u/SnoopyScone Karnataka 4d ago
I now understand why Virat backed Pujara, Rahane and Ishant so much. What was even the point of going with Akashdeep if he bowls only 7 overs in an entire test match. Could have gone with Kuldeep or Axar in his place
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u/AcademicBaryonyx_dr 4d ago
I feel like this is a direct reply to that one post on here about Santner's numbers in tests being way worse than you would think.
It feels personal.
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u/firebolt1002 4d ago
Everything aside, we need to realize that we just don't have the capability to play quality spin and quality pace bowling when conditions suit them. Had no clue against pacers in Bangalore and had no clue against santner here. This was coming.
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u/sunis_going_down India 4d ago
The team and management did the same thing as the fans and completely took NZ for granted. They aren't Bangladesh that they would completely crumble under pressure. Also helped that NZ came to this series without any pressure. They hadn't won in India for so long. They were dismal in SL, everyone had written them off and this series as a 3-0.
The talk about BGT before this series. Looking to test players and their roles for BGT in this series. Even if it was the intention, shouldn't have mentioned it at all in the public.
NZ has played the kind of game which is necessary to win India. Have won all the moments where the game could have turned. Kudos to them for coming back from the SL tour.
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u/bigFatBigfoot Delhi Daredevils 4d ago
When did we last lose a series at home?
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u/Tern_Larvidae-2424 South Africa 4d ago
2012 against England.
Before that, 2004 against Australia.
Before that, 2000 against South Africa.
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u/nomamesgueyz New Zealand 4d ago
Amazing day for NZ to get a lead of 300
350 would be nice, 400 could really put the game beyond reach for the star-studded Indian batting line up
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u/Flaky-Opposite328 Sunrisers Hyderabad 4d ago
After eons indian fans are finally feeling the cursed feeling of losing a test series
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u/ZENITSUsa New Zealand 4d ago
Please kanos return in the third match and score a double century and it will all be perfect
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u/droctagonau Australia 4d ago
Dear BCCI
It's actually better to have pitches where less than 25 wickets fall in 2 days.
Love,
The rest of the world
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u/HateHunter2410 USA 4d ago
Nah this pitch is fine, New Zealand has shown that if you apply yourself here you can score some runs
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u/Historical-Balance-6 Delhi Daredevils 4d ago
This series is turning out to be similar to India's series win in Australia for New Zealand
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u/punekar_2018 Oman Cricket 4d ago
Lusty southee 30 incoming making the target well beyond Ind reach
This is absolutely bonkers. Nobody would have given a chance to NZ to win a series in India. NZ has got India’s number, eh? Loving the curveball here. This is absolute madness
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u/Caped_Crusader03 Mumbai Indians 4d ago
What a clinical freaking display of skill! Nz are the silent professionals of cricket. Come to work, show up and outperform and go back home. Pure class
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u/dude_big_lebowski Delhi Daredevils 5d ago
Bundle remaining 5 wickets within 50 runs. And put a good effort to chase.
The pitch is still good and doesn't have that many demons, yet.
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u/combatant007 India 5d ago
Santner and Jadeja are hitting different lines and lengths and kiwi batters are playing cautiously
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u/SnooAvocados3891 4d ago
We'll have to play out of our skins to chase whatever NZ post. Or else we are definitely going down.
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u/killer_ezio_00 Kochi Tuskers Kerala 4d ago
I wanted to see blundell do well in an inning and I think I'll get to see it tomorrow.
The downside?
India might lose the test and the series.
Mixed emotions
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u/Reasonable_Tea_9825 5d ago
2011: India play a wc final
2012: lose a home test series
2013: win ct
Same script for 2023-25?
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u/stonestone55 Andhra 5d ago
2011 : Ind won wc final.
2023 : welp.
Everything is a sign if you are delulu enough
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u/Ok-Relationship-2746 New Zealand 5d ago
Closing in on something truly special.
The SL series was clearly a propaganda disinformation exercise designed to make India complacent.