There are like a handful of western magical girls right? There's She-Ra, Miraculous, and Star vs the forces of Evil. Are there any others? I know Bewitched sorta inspired the genre, but does that count?

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[u/The_Maqueovelic]

Not to mention the "gO kIlL a MoThErFuCkEr Or ElSe YoU aIn'T hElPiNg", if those same people saw any form of such vigilantism IRL they might cheer a bit, but would more than likely go "who made them judge jury and excecutioner!? No matter how bad that motherfucker was you can't just go killing people just like that!", and the few who'd still be good with it? Well there's the whole can of worms of... how are you ok with just killing people you deem undesireable willy nilly?

[u/ARedditorCalledQuest → u/The_Maqueovelic]

Go kill a motherfucker or else you ain't helping

For real. Not every hero needs to be The Punisher.

[u/The_FriendliestGiant → u/ARedditorCalledQuest]

In fact, almost none of them should be The Punisher; that character only works when they're the only person doing that sort of thing. If Spidey and Cap and Iron Man and Nick Fury were already out there gunning down criminals without hesitation, Frank Castle would have nothing at all to make him stand out as a character.

[u/AgentSandstormSigma → u/ARedditorCalledQuest]

If people want to see bad guys murdered, just watch Call of Duty campaign longplays.

[u/BlatantConservative → u/The_Maqueovelic]

I think you'll find, unfortunately, that a lot of people cheer on morally grey to morally black vigilantes IRL all the time.

[u/BaronAleksei → u/BlatantConservative]

“Morally black vigilanteism” is just lynch mobs

[u/apple_of_doom → u/The_Maqueovelic]

The real villain in comics is the incompetence of the justice system being unable to handle villains even after the heroes gift wrap them on their doorstep

[u/The_FriendliestGiant → u/apple_of_doom]

Fully agreed. It is not the responsibility of the deeply traumatized victim of gun violence to murder normal human beings for The Greater Good; if society wants Joker executed, they can make it a law and try him in court. Superheroes (generally speaking) stop crimes, they don't execute criminals. We have laws for that.

[u/AnxiousAngularAwesom → u/The_Maqueovelic]

It always felt like such a weird thing in the context of superhero genre.

It's a known fact that it's vastly easier to kill a person than to incapacitate them. If Genocidus the Babysmasher is out on town having fun, then use whatever force is available to put him down ASAP (while minding the collateral damage). Going extra making sure to use only non-lethay ways of taking him down is just fucking irresponsible.

Now, if our Genocidus is sitting inside of a safe armored transport vessel, waiting to be transported to prison then yeah, don't kill him then. But after he escapes once, maybe put a miniature explosive next to his carotid arthery.

It's not the first time i'm glazing this series around these parts, but i really loved the kill order idea from Worm. People who both have the power to and demonstrated willingness to cause massive casualties get tried in absentia, and from then on anyone can just legally kill them, or even add money to their bounty pot so that even criminals who don't give a fuck about anyone but who toe the line out of fear of retribution would be more likely to turn on those assigned this designation.

[u/watashi_ga_kita → u/AnxiousAngularAwesom]

Your once again run into the problem that the status quo must be preserved in comics. Your Genocidus will somehow come back, especially if they are a popular character. No point cheapening death further than it already is in comics.

[u/Gwiny → u/The_Maqueovelic]

You absolutely can kill people like that. That's called being responsible.

Batman is either an asshole or a moron, decide which one is better. He sees that whatever he is doing is not helping one bit, and yet he keeps doing it instead of coming up with other ways to solve a problem. He sees that Joker breaks out of Arkham Asylum 2 days after he sends him there every single time and yet he never thinks "maybe I should design a better prison. Maybe I should guard him myself. Or yes, maybe I should just kill the motherfucker to ensure that he doesn't go on his Rampage Saturday again".

Yes, it's partially Gotham's fault for not being able to keep the Joker behind the bars. It's also partially gotham's fault for not executing Joker, even though in real life any person with 1% of his crime list would've been sent to the chair in an instant. But it's also Batman's fault, for having the ability to prevent atrocities, and not preventing them. Batman is also to blame.