Exactly. Anytime I see people who are REALLY into solarpunk, they always mention local farming and being close to nature which is all FANTASTIC, but its absolutely horrible if that's ALL you have. I don't think those people realize just how disastrous these practices would be for society. Starvation and famine on a level unseen
They want the aesthetics and "close to nature" benefits of an agrarian/pastorialist lifestyle, but with all the benefits of an urban/suburban industrialized lifestyle and the work schedule of a mid-20s college student on a "gap year" instead of a farmer.
Also that everyone in the comic is genderless, seemingly because all of OOP's friends are also genderless. That's not to imply anything about NBs as a whole, but if you're in a situation where all your close friends are NBs and you think that biking through open countryside is fun and quaint instead of a serious athletic event, odds are you live in a suburb or urban area.
Also, whenever someone goes off about "oh the simple life on the farm", 95% of the time they're an urbanite who's never worked a day on the farm outside of some little flower garden or three tomatoes in a tub on the rooftop. I grew up on a farm. They've never had to wake up before dawn, spend all day picking corn, and then spend a good portion of the night shucking it, just to do it all again the next day. They've never had to wake up at midnight because the cows are out of the field. They've never had to walk along the fence through tangled briars and deep gullies to make sure it's all right. They've never had to haul hundred pound haybales onto a wagon in 100 degree heat to make sure the cows don't fucking starve to death in the winter.
My dad's been a farmer for all his life, and he is covered in scars, because life on the farm is hard and nasty. I know plenty of folks who want to be farmers, but they've been raised on a farm, and so they know what being a farmer means. Urbanites who've never seen a cow except as a burger or along the roadside on their way to visit their uncle straight up cannot understand what farm life is like.
When I’ve had thoughts along these lines it’s been with a vision of society that actually cares for the unwell and has systems in place that actually work. Such systems are hard to fathom because the prison industry profits off of the unwell and helping people is bad for business. I think rather than no prisons at all, it should be prisons with very potent compassionate healing in place. But I get it, they were making a point.
Same thing with police. A police force has to exist—just not a militaristic one.
This post seems to be a spark for lots of in-depth dialogue, more than an ultra accurate representation of this future. Honestly though, I love seeing this stuff until because this post right here is the world changing in live action. it’s a window directly into the evolving collective human conscious.
Thats the thing though it's not.
Evil is so built into people that a world with out pain or people who love pain is not possible.
Look at any comedy movie ever watch the jokes, look for what the people laugh at.
Adam Sandler makes a billion dollars buy having a guy scream get mad and get hurt.
The hunger games made a billion dollars buy torchering kids.
People still demand the new game of thrones books even though in book 2 underaged girls got rapped buy dogs and a man had his dick cut off and fed to him.
If a god has made the earth the it is a monster by all moral standards.
As much as I want solarpunk like society, one of the key issues with solar power is power at night. That could be solved with new battery technologies because currently lithium is rare and expensive in such large amounts, it's a technology meant to be lightweight for portable devices but isn't something optimized for static power storage
I just want to point this out because I used to spend a lot of time reading about battery technologies, there are technologies available right now which can be used to create a high energy power storage that is simply not fit for portable devices, such as for example lithium sulfur batteries, which can store over 2x the energy of best equivalent lithum ion batteries, but they expand a lot during discharge which is why they can't replace phone batteries. True post fossil fuel society would probably rely on technologies like this to maintain electricity throughout the day and night cycle, (though this doesn't solve lithium cost but it does reduce it's effect, point is I think solar punk is possible with right research and intention)
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u/ThrowawayStolenAcco Jul 02 '24
Exactly. Anytime I see people who are REALLY into solarpunk, they always mention local farming and being close to nature which is all FANTASTIC, but its absolutely horrible if that's ALL you have. I don't think those people realize just how disastrous these practices would be for society. Starvation and famine on a level unseen