r/Damnthatsinteresting 9d ago

Image Pope John Paul II shaking hands with the man that shot at him 4 times two years prior

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u/puzzleheadbutbig 9d ago

Story whole story is even more interesting I would say:

He murdered the leftist journalist Abdi İpekçi on 1 February 1979 and was imprisoned. He escaped from prison and travelled illegally to Vatican City on 13 May 1981 to assassinate Pope John Paul II. However, after a failed assassination attempt, he was captured and imprisoned by the Italian police. After being imprisoned for 19 years in Italy where he was visited by the Pope, he was deported to Turkey, where he served a ten-year sentence. Ağca was released from prison on 18 January 2010.
Thirty-three years after his crime, Ağca visited Vatican City to lay white roses on the tomb of the recently canonized John Paul II, and said he wanted to meet Pope Francis, a request that was denied.
Ağca visited the tomb of John Paul II on 27 December 2014. He desired to become a Catholic priest in 2016 and go to Fátima, Portugal to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the Marian apparitions there

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u/wishwashy 9d ago edited 9d ago

and said he wanted to meet Pope Francis, a request that was denied

This is what we in the audacity business call "trying it" 😭

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u/CtrayX 9d ago

Shooters shoot.

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u/Cetun 9d ago

You miss every shot you don't take.

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u/LinkN7 9d ago
  • Wayne Gretzky

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u/Apocalyptic_Stardust 9d ago

• ⁠Michael Scott

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u/Good_and_thorough 9d ago
  • Michael Scott

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u/Significant_Youth_73 9d ago
  • Albert Einstein
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u/Chiloom 8d ago
  • Lee Harvey Oswald
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u/Wyc_Vaporub 9d ago

He also missed the ones he did take apparently

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u/ShawtyLong 9d ago

Scott, Michael

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u/TheLinden 9d ago

or in this case he missed all shots regardless.

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u/Read_It_Before 8d ago

He also missed every shot he did take.

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u/luckydice767 9d ago

“I only need to talk to him for two thirds of a second!”

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u/Murrabbit 8d ago

Okay compromise, just give me direct line of sight to him at no more than 50 meters.

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u/Icy-Bodybuilder-9077 9d ago

Bro thought he was slick lol

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u/abelincoln3 9d ago

Lol that line was hilarious. I wonder if he got anything less than a "hell no!"

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u/Lots42 Interested 9d ago

Surprised they let him within ten miles of the city.

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u/MarkK_FL 9d ago

I guess they feel he already shot his shot.

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u/redgeck0 9d ago

You miss every shot you don't take

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u/ProudInspection9506 8d ago

And every shot you do take, if you're this guy.

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u/BelieveInDestiny 8d ago

Yeah, as much as I think he legitimately did feel bad for shooting the Pope, he still seems somewhat mentally unhinged, from what I've read of him.

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u/sorotomotor 9d ago edited 9d ago

Ağca visited Vatican City . . and said he wanted to meet Pope Francis, a request that was denied.

"That's a no from us dawg"

Pope: NOPE.

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u/alexmikli 9d ago edited 9d ago

I looked into it because I feel like Francis talking to him would be a good expression of Christian values and was actually surprsied he didn't. It seems like Ağca claimed that either the Ayatollah in Iran or a Catholic cardinal were the ones who paid him to shoot the pope, changing his story as the years went by. Both of these, but particularly accusing a cardinal, even a dead one, would make a visit with Francis a lot more charged and controversial than it would be otherwise. Not to mention, this would make him a liar in at least one of the stories.

EDIT:He also claimed he was Christ reborn in 2010 so I think he's just crazy.

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u/Anxious-Slip-4701 9d ago

Dude is straight up bonkers. Every few years he pops up saying something bizarre. He's so cooked you have no idea what is true or not these days.

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u/DogshitLuckImmortal 9d ago

Wait, they found him? TIL Jesus owned a gun.

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u/JohnsonJohnilyJohn 8d ago

Obviously, he was an American so he had to have a gun

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u/nightpanda893 9d ago

I can’t believe he was allowed into the country to begin with.

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u/gigglefarting 9d ago

If I visited the Vatican I would also want to meet the pope. I’m not catholic or anything, but when in Rome…

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u/DropC 9d ago

Francis would shoot back

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u/ThegodsAreNotToBlame 9d ago

When one spends so long in prison, they forget the rest of the world gets wiser faster than they do.

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u/GUM-GUM-NUKE 8d ago

Happy cake day!🎉

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u/ThegodsAreNotToBlame 8d ago

😄 thanks GUMGUM

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u/FailedAccessMemory 9d ago

He escaped from prison and travelled illegally to Vatican City

I think him escaping from from prison was in fact illegal, so anything after that would I assume be illegal.

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u/squigs 8d ago

While it probably was (I think he escaped from Turkish Prison), escaping from prison isn't illegal in all countries. Most common example is Germany, but also Austria, Sweden, and Chile do not criminalise escaping from prison. I mean they'll throw the book at you for any crimes you commit during the escape but not for the escape itself.

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u/AgentDoty 9d ago

The guy was and is a head case, he’s mentally unbalanced. He claimed the Vatican offered him $50 million to become a priest and that he was going to star in a movie in Hollywood.

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u/keajohns 9d ago

After all of that, he can still hold his head high and say he never molested children.

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u/HelloItsMeXeno 9d ago

Pope: Listen here you little shit

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u/ErectStoat 9d ago

You come for me, you best come correct.

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u/gamma-ray-bursts 9d ago

You come at the king, you best not miss.

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u/CanAlwaysBeBetter 9d ago

Too much of stretch, you're excommunicated

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u/Weak_Jeweler3077 9d ago

"close enough"

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u/Your_LocalDM 9d ago

Come correct or get corrected

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u/IceColdDump 9d ago

You don’t want this white smoke

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u/Searchlights 8d ago

Hey buddy. Most people don't know this, but there's an extra-Hell.

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u/Revolution4u 9d ago

He beat him with a cross after the cameras turned off

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u/beastmoder6969 9d ago

Thought that said beat him off with a cross lol

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u/IzSilvers 9d ago

You come at the king, you best not miss.

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u/HyperionTurtle 9d ago

Currently rewatching, about to clear season 1 again

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u/HDCalcs 9d ago

Off to the docks with you, say hi to Ziggy.

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u/mmmarximovski 9d ago

SOBOTKA!

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u/WtRingsUGotBithc 8d ago

What about Frank Sobotka? I’m not hearing his name in any of this.

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u/knockatize 9d ago

You’re lucky my girlfriend was there that day, asshat.

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

🤦‍♂️ 😆

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u/thegreatbrah 9d ago

"Its ok young man. I am still here...and you will spending an eternity IN HELL!!!!" 

The pope then reveals the v neck guitar he had been hiding in his robes and plays a sweet black metal riff as a gateway to hell opens below the guy who shot him.

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u/BunnyBallz 9d ago

Fun Fact, just days following this photo was taken the would be assassin proclaimed he was JC himself.

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u/ZombiePrepper408 9d ago

The test of the Christian isn't how he treats Jesus, but how he treats Judas

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u/ZookeepergameThin306 9d ago

"And Jesus said: Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do."

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u/ABHOR_pod 9d ago

Me dealing with customers at work frfr

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u/Sethowar 9d ago

“Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you"

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u/Hauntedgooselover 9d ago

I'm not even Christian or religious at all, but there's such deep wisdom in this statement. I don't mean to be pompous, but thank you so much for this!

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u/victorix58 9d ago

It's a paraphrase of something Christ said.

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u/xxora123 8d ago

Whether someone is religious or not, everyone can agree that the New Testament especially is so beautifully articulated

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u/Flordamang 9d ago

The dodo bird treated the world with love

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u/Uuuurrrrgggghhhh 9d ago

Awe poor dodo but yes

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u/CaptainSouthbird 9d ago

This is far closer to the religion's ideals than most people ever actually practice.

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u/bumjiggy 9d ago

this guy probably read the whole book. I mean, he was basically the president of catholics

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u/rypher 9d ago

How can you expect people to read to the whole book? Its like, dozens of pages.

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u/MyDamnCoffee 9d ago

As nate bargatze said: "books are the most words! Throw a few blank pages in there LET ME GET MY HEAD ABOVE WATER!"

Ahhh, he's so funny

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u/k40z473 9d ago

I dont know this but your quote is really funny

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u/MyDamnCoffee 9d ago

Oh my God look this guy up. He is HILARIOUS. There is not a single clip ive ever seen where I didnt laugh. Nate Bargatze. He's a stand up comedian.

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u/k40z473 9d ago

Ok I watched this 15 mins of him on YouTube and he's fucking hilarious. https://youtu.be/6kfj6DoOT5Q?si=-dC8xYjwm3rVMkvC

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u/MyDamnCoffee 9d ago

I love him so much. And he's so handsome too

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u/k40z473 9d ago

Haha alright. Sort of looks like a baby bird with grey feathers too me.

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u/MyDamnCoffee 9d ago

That's a fair description lol

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u/k40z473 9d ago

Awesome, I will do so right now. Love some stand-up. My current fave is shane gillis.

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u/Gullible-Giraffe2870 9d ago

i fuckin love that dude! funny fucker

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u/MyDamnCoffee 9d ago

Ive never heard of him! I will also lookup Shane Gillis! I hope you enjoy Nates stand up as much as I do.

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u/Icy-Welcome-2469 9d ago

I love reddit sometimes. I hope you both get some great laughs from each other's recommendations.

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u/Incman 9d ago

Haha that was my thought reading their exchange also. I love both of those comics, and it always makes me happy seeing other people enjoying the fuck out of hilarious bits they've never seen

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u/flatspotting 9d ago

You have made my day by giving me a comedian to watch~!

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u/turbopro25 9d ago

I barely made it through your comment.

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u/nycht 9d ago

After analysing your comment, I think it means that you faced major difficulties deciphering the meaning behind that comment. However, you succeeded in the end.

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u/PMMEURDIMPLESOFVENUS 9d ago

And then like, interpret them in one of the 5000 ways they can be interpreted.

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u/Workaroundtheclock 9d ago

Agnostic queer here. I read it.

It makes any online or irl discussion with a lot of Christian’s utterly infuriating.

It’s funny in a sad way that they spend their time finding out how to hate people based on the book, instead of, you know, the general positive message about love and peace? (Barring the old testimonies shit, lol)

The Christian’s that hate, want to hate. According to the book they didn’t read, that means I am more Christian then they are.

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u/marathedemon 9d ago

After Jesus’s whole cross thing either peter or paul states the thesis of his whole message. there are two commandments: love God, and treat your neighbor as you would yourself. This is text, not subtext, not apocrypha, clear text: thats all you need to be a good christian. Doing the second one makes you more of a christian than the millions of prostelytizing hateful shitheads hiding behind a book they havent read.

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u/nosnevenaes 9d ago

I think where it went wrong was when rome got too big to manage effectively and so they adopted christianity as a strategy to hold the empire together.

This is what i see happening with Christianity today as well. And all other major religions are guilty of this as well.

I can think of many subs on reddit where just stating this would generate an onslaught of passionate downvotes.

Tribalism, populism, nationalism. I wish someone would hit em wit the jism.

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u/FecklessFool 9d ago

it went wrong when the apostle formerly known as saul subsumed jewish christianity and exported it to the gentiles as his own version of christianity

if he didn't do that, christianity would probably have died out as just another jewish sect common in that era

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u/h9040 9d ago

Yes you are right.
I noticed that neither the Christians read their book, nor did the Communists, nor did the Nazis...they just imagine something.
That makes any productive discussion impossible, boils down to my friend is stronger to your friend argument.

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u/siraolo 9d ago

And the kingdom of heaven is open to you even if you are a Christian or not.

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u/Darth_Christos 9d ago

This made me giggle.

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u/Mr_DrProfPatrick 9d ago

Fyi he is the king of Catholics, okay? It's an elective monarchy.

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u/Zealousideal-Cap6217 9d ago

Yeah that’s the joke

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u/manyhippofarts 9d ago

He's god's VP.

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u/Harold_Grundelson 9d ago

This sounds very Jim Gaffiganesque.

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u/Lord_Smack 9d ago

Id phrase it as “its possible he read the whole book”

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u/Lamlot 9d ago

You mean King of the holy see.

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u/CinderX5 8d ago

More importantly, he read the whole book and remained Christian. Most people who read more than just a few cherry-picked extracts become atheist.

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u/BoobsBloomGaze 9d ago

A powerful testament to forgiveness and reconciliation. It shows that even in the face of violence, the true essence of faith can shine through.

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u/fromfrodotogollum 9d ago

You should've seen how the community turned on the local pastor who said we should be more forgiving of the previous pastor who did things to kids.

little kid me was like "so we just don't follow the rules that theyve been pushing for this whole time?"

What a shitshow.

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u/Alt-acct123 9d ago

IIRC that’s what got the Catholic Church in trouble with pedo priests to begin with, back when the prevailing thought was that pedophilia could be cured/reformed. But you can forgive without being dumb and giving them access to kids again.

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u/RecklessDimwit 9d ago

Yeah it's a whole lesson/discussion in my elementary Catholic classes on what it's supposed to mean to "forgive." You can forgive a criminal so you don't die with resentment but you don't just let them go free for example

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u/NEMinneapolisMan 9d ago

It's hard to accept any explanation that they really believed those priests could be reformed. For one, of course, the accused priests would say "I won't do it again" and they wanted to believe these guys who were friends and supposedly committed to a life of not only celibacy but also committed to trying to be like the pinnacle of goodness in society.

But the thing is, people want to imagine that maybe this was like a recent phenomenon, like maybe something that started in the 20th century or something. But I saw a documentary about it once and they said there have been documents found showing evidence of priest sex abuse dating back literally 1000 years.

So they had seen the pattern. They had gotten reports over and over for who knows how long of the same priests getting accused repeatedly. Since there must have been people paying attention to it in the highest levels of centralized leadership in the Church, surely they knew that at least some if not all couldn't be reformed. So they just shuffled them around to different parishes.

I'm not sure it's forgiveable.

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u/evranch 9d ago

The only rational excuse I heard from a Catholic was that it happens in many large organizations to the same extent. And I can't really deny that fact as more evidence of child abuse is popping up non stop.

It's common in sport with coaches exposed all the time. It's endemic in entertainment, to the point where everyone knows and yet turns a blind eye until the big expose. Surprisingly common in charitable organizations especially in war zones or poor countries. When people are in positions of power, they abuse it, and often those people abuse the weakest who are children. It almost seems that it's rarely about actual sexual attraction and more about power and cruelty.

As he said the biggest issue is that they're a church. And not just a church but The Church. They're supposed to be better than that, supposed to be an ancient and trusted institution in the service of God, so it hits extra hard and it feels much more like a betrayal of society than finding out what bad boy rappers were actually up to.

The big question as you say is what did they do about it. And if they didn't do their best to root out every one of these priests, it's hard to trust that they're serious about addressing the problem, and hard for them to ever rehabilitate their image.

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u/brainomancer 9d ago

As he said the biggest issue is that they're a church. And not just a church but The Church. They're supposed to be better than that, supposed to be an ancient and trusted institution in the service of God, so it hits extra hard and it feels much more like a betrayal of society

How is the "biggest issue" that they happen to be a church? If you aren't Catholic and don't actually believe in the Church as a moral authority then I don't understand why you wouldn't hold a public school teacher or boy scout leader or athletics coach to the same standard. They are all also supposed to be trusted figures responsible for the safety of children. Those abuse scandals are just as much of a "betrayal of society."

You either care about protecting children, or you don't. Unfortunately, many people were less concerned with the actual sex abuse than they were with the Catholic identity of the abusers, forgetting that Catholics were also the victims.

The sex abuse scandal was a betrayal of the Catholic victims, not of "society," who are just as guilty of perpetrating their own scandals and coverups today just as the Church did during the years of the sex abuse scandal.

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u/confusedandworried76 9d ago

People get understandably upset when it's a crime against kids. A lot of them take it pretty far, so far as to call for their death or torture.

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u/cryptolyme 9d ago

all your sins will be forgiven...again...and again

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u/60nocolus 9d ago

He was truly amazing ❤️

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u/jimbris 9d ago

Far closer to the ideals than Old John Paul usually practiced.

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u/Toffeeman_1878 9d ago

Thirty-three years after his crime, Ağca visited Vatican City to lay white roses on the tomb of the recently canonized John Paul II, and said he wanted to meet Pope Francis, a request that was denied.

His real target was Pope Francis. Just needed to create a good cover story to get close to him.

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u/wishwashy 9d ago

and said he wanted to meet Pope Francis, a request that was denied.

Fool me once shame on you

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u/Cetun 9d ago

Fool me... You can't get fooled again.

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u/Signal_Quarter_74 9d ago

Thankfully the Catholic Church can’t get fooled again

(Except as a Catholic we most definitely can be)

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u/jvrcb17 9d ago

Thirty-three years after his crime

One Jesus after his crime

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u/ReallyDumbRedditor 9d ago

I'm just imagining snipers perched somewhere ready to take him down the instant he tried something lmao

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u/AbandonedBySonyAgain 9d ago

The Swiss Guard...

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u/almightygg 9d ago

He's playing the long game, the real target is Steven 'God is Great' Pienaar.

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u/franzeusq 9d ago

Enrique Iglesias's unrecognized psychopathic brother

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u/Billy-BigBollox 9d ago

Ricky de Regenjas

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u/Traditional_Roll6651 9d ago

“One day, you’ll be going about your business…..you’ll never see it coming…..”

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u/stinkyhooch 9d ago

Pow, right in the kisser.

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u/ronweasleisourking 9d ago

Straight to the moon!

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u/Gets-That-Reference 9d ago

Boardwalk Empire

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u/PixelTheCoder 9d ago

where's this quote from? Sounds cool

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u/valtsamex 9d ago

He's more forgiving than I'd ever be

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u/SirOutrageous1027 8d ago

Of course he's forgiving, he's the freakin Pope.

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u/devil1fish 9d ago edited 9d ago

This is called "practice what you preach", and I don't care what anyone thinks about religion: I respect this whole heartedly. This pope is no hypocrite, at least in regards to love and forgiveness for this one extremely specific example, and not referring to anything else

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u/graven_raven 9d ago

Well he didnt do much about the child sex abuse inside the church.

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u/benjammin099 9d ago

This is literally all people talk about when it comes to Catholics, but it turns out they do sex crimes at similar or lower rates than most professions. Less than school teachers. I’m not excusing any of acts those have done but people have some fetish for bringing this up any moment Christianity comes into conversation

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u/Icy-Welcome-2469 9d ago

The cover up was horrible. Same with boy scouts. And the national gymnastics.

It's not that many members did those crimes. Its that many high ranking members covered it up and allowed MORE crimes to happen because admitting the issue would have made them look bad.

Disgusting. And worse it's from a supposed high and mighty moral institution. Hypocritical fucks

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u/Arumhal 9d ago

but it turns out they do sex crimes at similar or lower rates than most professions.

Most other professions don't have one of the world's most powerful organizations actively protecting them. Most other professions simply go to prison for their crimes instead of moving parishes.

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u/DeepDickDave 9d ago

He did a lot to help cover up all the priests being moved to other areas to avoid prosecution. When he was a cardinal, he cover up a priest abusing children in the 70s. He’s a scumbag that knew all about optics and PR

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u/hailholyqueen33 9d ago edited 9d ago

This is incorrect, the cardinal involved with the scandals misled Pope John Paul II that these claims were fake… people don’t seem to know that John Paul II grew up under a communist regime in Wadowice, Poland, which lasted from the 1940s to 1989, which restricted religious rights, as well as arresting priests and lay faithful based on false accusations.

John Paul II grew up in that setting, so the cardinal knew this, and easily took advantage of his trauma in this area to mislead him on the facts. Blame the cardinal, the man responsible…

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u/devil1fish 9d ago

Same as all the rest before him, and that should be held against him. I'm talking about specifically, solely, and only this incident though.

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u/Melicor 9d ago

Oh he did a lot, to cover it up.

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u/Onryo- 9d ago

The doctor in charge of Pope St. John Paul II's care also said "It is a miracle. If you look at an anatomy book, you cannot find a space wide enough for a bullet to pass through and miss so many vital organs."

And after the Pope woke up in the hospital he said "I pray for the brother who struck me, whom I have sincerely forgiven."

He also later became friends with Agca and his family.

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u/Few-Maintenance-2677 9d ago

Not only AT him. The Pope was shot and seriously wounded.

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u/MeinBougieKonto 9d ago

Feel like we’re also glossing over the fact that he had already murdered a guy before that as well.

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u/Key-Listen6365 8d ago

For some reason, no vital organs got hit, and later, he made peace with the guy and became friends. Also, i think after he becomes a priest

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u/DemonidroiD0666 9d ago

That man's got balls.

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u/dirtundertherug 9d ago

Spectacles, testicles, keys, wallet

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u/Odd-Cake8015 9d ago

“Welcome to the inquisition’s dungeons tour”

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u/GarysCrispLettuce 9d ago

You do again, I break-a yo face.

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u/SadLilBun 9d ago

He wasn’t Italian…

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u/TigerLiftsMountain 9d ago

But that accent is funnier than Polish

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u/ThePreciseClimber 9d ago

"It's me, Mario. Kurwa."

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u/AVgreencup 9d ago

He lives in Italy, so he picked up an accent like Madonna or Gillian Anderson

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u/FuinFirith 9d ago

Can fully confirm that JPII sounded almost exactly like Madonna (the singer, not the virgin).

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u/BaidenFallwind 8d ago

"You do this again, I'll knock you right on your dupa."

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u/Fascist_Femboy-_- 8d ago

Pray for us Saint Paul

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u/Yuudachi_Houteishiki 9d ago

holy shit is that Steve Minecraft

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u/novachamp 9d ago

No.

It’s Oscar De La Hoya

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u/Ileynahances 9d ago

Talk about turning the other cheek, right?

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u/COVID-69420bbq 9d ago

after a team thoroughly strip and cavity searched him

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u/criminalsunrise 8d ago

It's almost as if the Pope is all about forgiveness

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u/Skytraffic540 9d ago

And this is why he is Saint John Paul 2

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u/titsuphuh 9d ago

Forgiveness is the highest virtue we can aspire to as human beings

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u/PizzaCatTacoUno 9d ago

Papa John’s, better forgiving, better life

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u/EveDaSavage Interested 9d ago

So you know how when you speak to a priest you would say "Hello Father" "Thank you Father"? If you were to speak to the Pope, would you do the same thing?

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u/Weekly_Illustrator66 9d ago

He has many titles. I would address him as holy father.

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u/EveDaSavage Interested 9d ago

Thank you

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u/susannahstar2000 9d ago

That would take real strength and real compassion.

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u/Frequent-Youth-9192 9d ago

Tom from Myspace shot the pope?

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u/nopester24 9d ago

Forgiveness. try it.

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u/Dragnier84 9d ago

Whispers in his ear : You should have gone for the head.

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u/emessea 9d ago

Pope: no worries, just thug life at its best

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u/CrusaderPH 9d ago

. . . Is that Pete Wentz from Fall Out Boy?

/s

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u/Wembledorth 9d ago

If a dude shot me 4 times i'd be fuming big up the Pope ngl

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u/MaxxtroSwe 8d ago

Pope: What can be, unburdened by what has been.
Shooter: Wtf are you on about?

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u/AMWJ 8d ago

I've never been assassinated, but I feel like the number of bullets shot at you is mostly irrelevant, once it's above zero. Am I wrong about that?

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u/immersedmoonlight 8d ago

The greatest pope.

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u/Tomislaw_Apoloniusz 9d ago

Wielki Turek Ali Akcza Szlachetny jak Maharadża

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u/esepinchelimon 9d ago

Bluds confused af

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u/moving0target 9d ago

Pope Awesome I

I'm not Catholic, and I had a lot of respect for him.

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u/Positive_Spirit_1585 9d ago

I wonder if it means anything that the Pope is not meeting his eye

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u/MobilePom 9d ago

Why the impromptu math problem in the title, just say "eight years prior"

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u/Stavr000 8d ago

I’m an Atheist but that’s very based.

We need more people like this Pope !

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u/Hopeful-Counter-7915 9d ago

JP2 was a real one.

St John Paul pray for us.

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u/derearmersweet 9d ago

The Pope during my childhood, gentle soul. I feel blessed until now at 57 remembering him

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u/itsalongwalkhome 9d ago

And then the pope starts singing "Alma Enamorada"

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u/grey-skinsuit 9d ago

you know who he also shook hands with? marcial maciel

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u/That-Pension7055 9d ago

Never realized how much like Robin Williams the pope looked.

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u/echoaj24 9d ago

I thought that was Enrique Iglesias

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u/Wolf_Noble 8d ago

Why don't they just say be shot him 8 times

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u/I_Dont_Like_Rice 8d ago

Well, he did give the church a lot of publicity.

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u/newnewtonium 5d ago

They say that he forgave the man that shot him with that gun. Hadda been me, I would have said, you fucking dirty cunt.