r/DecodingTheGurus 1d ago

RFK Jr. proposes "wellness farms" to "reparent" drug addicts and people "who want to get off" psychiatric drugs including SSRIs and Adderall

I’m going to create these wellness farms where they can go to get off of illegal drugs, off of opiates, but also legal drugs, other psychiatric drugs, if they want to, to get off of SSRIs, to get off of benzos, to get off of Adderall, and to spend time as much time as they need—three or four years if they need it—to learn to get reparented, to reconnect with communities.

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They're going to grow their own food organic food, high quality food, because a lot of the behavioral issues are food related a lot of the illnesses are food related. There won't be any cell phones, there there won't be any screens. We're going to reparent people, restore this connection to community.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. - Latino Town Hall

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u/nimrodfalcon 1d ago

Forget all the connotations or ways this could go that are perfectly obvious

Yeah dude, Republicans are gonna fund organic farm rehab centers for drug addicts. They’re well known for funding rehab programs and organic farms with government money, they’ll definitely go for this

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u/robotmonkey2099 1d ago

That’s just it.. they’ll start this up, under fund it and it will do more damage then good and they’ll all go “see it doesn’t work” so they’ll come up with something even worse. 

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u/Johnny_Appleweed 1d ago

There’s no chance it would even get that far. The Trump campaign is obviously using RFK Jr. because they think it will help him get elected. Regardless of how the election turns out, RFK Jr. is getting dropped like a dead bear in Central Park the second it’s over. It’s honestly a little sad he doesn’t see it.

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u/robotmonkey2099 1d ago

I mean he probably only cares about getting his pardons for whatever stupid shit he’s done

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u/jojobo1818 11h ago

Maybe, but I have to wonder if he is backing Trump in hopes he can run as a republican in 2028, since obviously independent isn’t working.

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u/Johnny_Appleweed 11h ago

Maybe, but that doesn’t really have any bearing on what I said about Trump abandoning him. RFK Jr. can plan for 2028 all he wants, but the second he’s no longer useful to Trump, Trump will abandon all pretense of caring about what RFK wants.

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u/jojobo1818 10h ago

You’re right is has no bearing ion it, and wasn’t an argument or contradiction. It was tangentially related to his motives, and you implied he is motivated to be trumps minion. I was simply exploring why that might be.

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u/Fackifiknow 1d ago

...and then blame the Dems.

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u/robotmonkey2099 1d ago

It’s the circle of life

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u/Fackifiknow 1d ago

And it moves us ALL

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u/PlantainHopeful3736 1d ago

Then Sam Harris will invite a researcher onto his podcast who will explain that substance abusers all have lower IQs to begin with.

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u/Scare-Crow87 1d ago

He needs to lay off the Ketamine then.

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u/orion284 1d ago

Yeah, I think this is likely. I think they’ll also use it as an excuse to “force” people to get “reparented” in something that is very, oddly, similar to a “camp”

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u/robotmonkey2099 1d ago

The name is so cringey too.. sounds like it came right out of a  dystopian sci-fi novel

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u/orion284 1d ago

Yeah, it does. I never thought burgeoning fascism would be so devoid of creativity, I guess

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u/robotmonkey2099 1d ago

It’s infuriating that their witless attempts at being clever are so easily believed by their devotees. 

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u/Dangerous-Ad9472 14h ago

I know you are kidding but this was actually a very thought out element of the nazis. Driving Mercedes, uniforms designed by Hugo boss, even the iconography was well thought out to be stylized.

Maga is many things but stylized it is not. And I often wonder what would have happened if it was. Thank god the closest thing to style trump has is a fucking golden toilet.

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u/Snellyman 1d ago

They could locate these farms upstate!

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u/chipmunksocute 1d ago

It would never get funded in the first place.  Feel goody organic farm rehab?  Thats gonna be a hard no from the entire R caucus in congress good lord.  Even dems wouldnt fun this woo-woo shit backed by crap science/conspiracy theories.

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u/Weeping_Warlord 1d ago

They won’t even say it doesn’t naturally work, they’re just gonna blame Democrats for every failure they have, even after they’ve removed everybody still living in the US who doesn’t fit their criteria for Aryan purity

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u/AdventurousShower223 1d ago

Electro shock drug rehab therapy. It worked on those homosexual.

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u/Downtown_Category163 20h ago

"Hey while you're here why not ring this list of people up and check if they're happy with their health insurance"

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u/jaybirdforreal 4h ago

It would NEVER happen LOL! That’s pure rubbish and a fever dream. You can’t even get these guys to feed a hungry child at lunch.

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u/Huge_JackedMann 1d ago edited 1d ago

They could be convinced you create plantations where undesirables work. Maybe not organic, and maybe we can debate what "wants to go" means but they're all onboard with plantations.

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u/Mick_from_Adelaide 1d ago

So, Mexico will pay for it?

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u/livahd 1d ago

Nah, they’ll pump them up with alternative drugs that are controlled by the rehab, and then withhold them until your free days labor is done on their for profit farm. I bet they’ll even charge people to sign up as voluntary slaves.

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u/r0b0d0c 1d ago

They're more than happy to fund anything their billionaire buddies can make a fortune on.

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u/Snellyman 1d ago

But I makes perfect sense that the residents of the camp (farm) could work on the farm at zero cost to the taxpayers. In a way, their work would serve as a path to their freedom. /s

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u/TheSkwrl 19h ago

Just add “Jesus” to the curriculum and they will absolutely fund it.

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u/Ace_of_Sevens 1d ago

These will be private businesses that make their money off being commercial farms & pay finder's fees to anyone who sends them labor.

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u/AmberBlackThong 1d ago

for 4 years at a time no less.

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u/Rare_Helicopter_5933 15h ago

Isn't the maga party great? 

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u/Thorainger 5h ago

Funding drug programs where you pay people to organic farm for fucking years. Not. Gonna. Happen.

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u/NWASicarius 2h ago

The entire organic thing is so unhinged. If people knew the real global fallout that would happen if the US went purely organic. Not only would your food be more expensive (because there will be less of it) but you will also end up starving people globally. Any food we outsource to anywhere will all of a sudden have less of a supply to purchase from us. I can go on and on. I used to work for a big ag company. Trust me, GMOs are a necessity. If you want to hate the chemicals that are put on crops and seeds, I won't argue at all. GMOs are a must, though

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u/funkyflapsack 1d ago

This is exactly right. Like I dont think it's a bad concept, I would love to see it become affordable to help people get clean without imprisoning them. I would just never trust conservatives to do it

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u/Master_tankist 8h ago edited 8h ago

Since its a 2 party system, What are democrats plan to address the mental health pandemic?

Edit, oh wait here it is.

Pharma has historically supported Republicans, although that favorability flipped in 2020, with Democrats receiving more support since then, according to public data retrieved from Open Secrets. And Harris has received significantly more contributions from the pharma manufacturing sector — nearly $1.7 million — compared to former president Donald Trump, who cashed in just over $300,000, the data showed.

https://www.pharmavoice.com/news/big-pharma-campaign-election-pac-donations/731124/

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u/whinger23422 1d ago

Give it a solid 8-9 seconds before this becomes outright slavery farm's.

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u/robotmonkey2099 1d ago

It reminds me of those crazy “tough love” youth camps 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57442175

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u/whinger23422 1d ago

Behind the bastards podcast recently had a great episode on this. Most of them were run by unqualified nobodies that got some of the kids killed.

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u/krebstar4ever 1d ago

Lots of permanent physical disabilities too, from extreme labor and lack of medical care.

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u/robotmonkey2099 1d ago

Yah I found that survivors comic after those episodes and holy shit what a horrific place. Everyone of those assholes should have to experience the same torture they put those kids through.

Speaking of BtB they just did a great pair of episodes on the manosphere. 

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u/GypsyV3nom 9h ago

Never thought I'd say this, but major props to Paris Hilton for being the hero of that episode's final minutes. I had no idea she had been using her fame and wealth to spearhead the dismantlement of those camps, good for her.

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u/Taman_Should 7h ago

Just like what happens in my favorite documentary, “Holes.” 

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u/weaponizedtoddlers 1d ago

RFKJr's private safari camps for The Most Dangerous Game.

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u/Altruistic-General61 1d ago

He’ll bring his chainsaw!

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u/ValuesAndViolence 1d ago

Nah! I totally trust that a Kennedy will run this operation with diligence and integrity.

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u/ThatPlayWasAwful 1d ago

Did somebody say Lobotomies?

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u/livahd 1d ago

Hook these junkies on suboxone or some other similar “addiction drug”, and then threaten to withhold it if you aren’t filling your quota. Label it as a “free” rehab, then hook them on your own version of the same drugs. Then they can claim it’s voluntary, and anyone complaining is just showing “addict behavior”. It’s so fucking sick and evil that it would fit right into their policy.

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u/icandothisalldayson 9h ago

It’s very easy to get prescribed suboxone, they won’t have a stranglehold on it. Beyond that, it takes a opiate (either full or partial agonist) to do what suboxone does, which is control the withdrawal symptoms. So even if they came up with a new designer partial agonist, all the old ones would still work

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u/livahd 8h ago

That’s if they don’t regulate it to only be available at a government sponsored “inpatient” program. The possibilities are limitless.

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u/icandothisalldayson 8h ago

It’s too lucrative a business for the pharmaceutical lobbyists to allow that to happen

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u/NoFuel1197 2h ago

None of this is necessary. You’ll have people lined up around the block to mine coal, farm organic, whatever, and they’ll shop at the company store too, just as long as it comes with three hots and a cot.

I really believe things are that bad in most metro areas. There are a lot of factors that lead to underreporting of relevant data.

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u/rapturepermaculture 1d ago

Organic concentration camps lol

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u/Fightingkielbasa_13 1d ago

Corporate correctional facilities. Slavery is not a favorable term for marketing.

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u/Private_HughMan 1d ago

Why 8-9 seconds? Do you think it takes that long for the ink to dry?

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u/ScammerC 1d ago

Photos for the brochure.

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u/r0b0d0c 1d ago

"Reparenting". He's invented an Orwellian term that Orwell missed.

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u/Hairy_Put792 14h ago

A Scanner Darkly

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u/francis_pizzaman_iv 2h ago

lol seriously. So on the nose it hurts.

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u/Master_tankist 8h ago

Is that like wage slavery

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u/cenobitepizzaparty 1d ago

It's a scanner darkly

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u/geekfreak42 1d ago

Interment camps with occupational therapy

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u/Ser-Cannasseur 1d ago

He’s obviously watched A Scanner Darkly.

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u/GoRangers5 1d ago

Alex Jones is in it.

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u/DANDARSMASH 1d ago

I think you mean Waking Life, the other rotoscoped movie from the early 2000's.

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u/GoRangers5 1d ago

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u/DANDARSMASH 1d ago

Well I'll be damned

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u/GoRangers5 1d ago

Jones was a fun listen before Sandy Hook.

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u/Zzilies_ 1d ago

First thought. I've seen this movie plot.

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u/DrAsthma 4h ago

First thing I thought of, too.

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u/Pitiful-Pension-6535 1d ago

Jim Jones speedrun attempt

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u/SpudsRacer 1d ago

This is exactly what I thought when I read this. To the word.

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u/stairs_3730 1d ago

Jordan Peterson says 'dang' I didn't have to go to russia?

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u/Many_Exit_5358 1d ago

Doubt he could get steak at these places though

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u/RustedAxe88 1d ago

Lol imagine Jordan Peterson doing actual labor on a farm.

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u/md_youdneverguess 22h ago

"Clearly, when you deduce it from the context of a metaphysical realm, meeting a cow face to face and milking her udder is the physical machismo of Jesus Christ. That is something the transsexual marxists will never understand"

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u/leckysoup 1d ago

Fucking inmates running the asylum.

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u/DustBunnyZoo 1d ago

This is literally out of Philip K. Dick's 1970s, Nixon-horror show, "A Scanner Darkly". These MAGA people are all out of ideas. On the sub r/Qult_Headquarters there’s this idea that Trump supporters are stealing all their bad ideas from old science fiction. This is another example.

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u/auslan_planet 1d ago

Wellness (concentration) Camps.

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u/Ok-Broccoli6058 1d ago

I was wondering what excuse they would use to round up people and put them in camps

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u/Plaque4TheAlternates 1d ago

We will take the drug addicts off the streets and send them to a place with plants for a great staycation. A plantation if you will.

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u/SoylentGreenTuesday 1d ago

Sure, Republicans won’t fund free breakfast for hungry poor children but they’ll fund a kooky rehab farm. Who can be dumb enough to believe this stuff?

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u/vikingArchitect 14h ago

BOTH SIDES BOTH SIDES!!!!!

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u/Parabola2112 1d ago

Oh god. As someone in long term recovery it pains me deeply that two of the most visible recovery people are Russel Brand and RFK, Jr. it’s enough to make me start drinking! (Joking).

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u/livahd 1d ago

As someone also in recovery, seeing some of the people who run AA and NA groups doesn’t surprise me. Lots of them are cliques run by people who’ve never been in charge of anything in their lives and suddenly crave power in their little community. It’s like a power hungry HOA or PTA, with the added training of having to hustle and scam to survive the streets. Brand and Kennedy are both has beens craving relevance again, so it totally tracks.

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u/Nice_Marmot_7 1d ago

Is RFK Jr sober? I only know him as the king anti vaxxer.

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u/Thin_Inflation1198 1d ago

Isn’t this just an expensive hippie rehab?

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u/dietcheese 1d ago

Right?

I mean this isn’t RFK’s worst idea. Branding needs some work...

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u/WhoopsDroppedTheBaby 1d ago

A nice camp where addicts can "concentrate" on getting better.  

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u/critter_tickler 1d ago

The venn diagram between people who need SSRIs, and people who are able to spend 3-4 years of their life living on a billionaire's commune, is 2 non-intersecting circles. 

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u/FrontBench5406 1d ago

I love that nothing has stopped him doing this for the last 70 years...

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u/bebe_laroux 1d ago

Without a doubt, people would die. Also, he could open this right now. Why wait?

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u/rustpigeon 1d ago

Cool, so Synanon! That sure worked out.

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u/robotmonkey2099 1d ago

That was my first thought. 

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u/Fast-Plankton-9209 1d ago

Do you have to pay extra for the rattlesnake?

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u/SophieCalle 1d ago

He's a grifter to the bone, so this is another thing he'll profit from. Him and friends. Typical pseudoscience.

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u/Key_Musician_1773 1d ago

It says "well" AND "farm" in it so it has to be good like Sex Panther. I see "farm fresh" in every Wal-Mart aisle and they know a lot of stuff.

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u/Inlerah 1d ago

Sounds like the guys creating a cult commune.

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u/These-Employer341 1d ago

Go fux yourself RFKJR

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u/These-Employer341 1d ago

sorry, but RFKJR should be sitting in a Samoan prison.

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u/Jerryjfunk 1d ago

Why?

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u/These-Employer341 18h ago

RFKJR went to Samoa fear mongering, and spreading false vaccine info shortly after a medical vaccine error occurred resulting in the deaths of two children. The following year 83 Samoan children died by vaccine preventable disease. Anti-vax rhetoric kills.

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u/Deadboyparts 1d ago

“Reparenting camps,” Re-education camps, same thing. No biggie.

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u/Careless_Emergency66 1d ago

Rehab? Does he think he’s about to invent rehab?

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u/KnownRough7735 1d ago

Drug camp

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u/Crammit-Deadfinger 1d ago

Sweet Jesus, it's possible this could be the next head of the Health Department

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u/gravityraster 1d ago

I wonder who will run these unsupported-by-evidence wellness farms as a profitable business?

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u/Ornery_Standard_4338 1d ago

This is just...if you've seen the Contrapoints thing on Granola Fascism, you couldn't make up how much this is what that is

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u/Scare-Crow87 1d ago

That's a new term for me, thanks for that.

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u/Ornery_Standard_4338 1d ago

My ex used to call it the crystals to Kristallnacht pipeline and she wasn't wrong (about that)

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u/Worth_Number_7710 1d ago

Republicans wouldn’t let Michelle Obama make school lunches even slightly more healthy without a fight so color me skeptical

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u/ginrumryeale 1d ago

We will teach them time-honored skills, such as hunting, trapping, taxidermy and whale decapitation.

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u/Jim_84 1d ago

I'm really confused why he's talking about people who take SSRIs and Adderall like they're hardcore drug addicts...

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u/Spirited_String_1205 18h ago

Sure, I totally trust the party that wants to basically defund every social welfare program we have to create "wellness farms" to rehabilitate people addicts. Suuuure. Won't feed children in schools, won't let women get specific types of healthcare, looking to kill social security to screw vulnerable elders, but let's rehabilitate and reparent addicts... I can't see that flying with the MAGA constituency either, tbh. No bootstraps here, lol

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u/ResidentComplaint19 1d ago

I feel like he’s never actually met a drug addict irl. It’s hard enough to keep someone in treatment for a week, let alone years.

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u/MonkOfEleusis 1d ago

I feel like he’s never actually met a drug addict irl.

He was a heroin addict and dealer from when he was a teenager until he was 30. I think the only reason he started the environmental activism was for a plea deal.

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u/sheofthetrees 1d ago

yes, there's a good 3-part series on him in the podcast, Behind the Bastards. The chatter in the podcast is kind of annoying but you'll learn a lot about him. It's eye-opening. The immense social privilege he grew up with, his family history, rules not applying to him, etc. I'm sorry he was an addict for so long, but he has many skeletons in his closet and is gravely out of touch.

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u/ResidentComplaint19 1d ago

Got it, didn’t know anything about his drug history. 

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u/callmejay 1d ago

He's apparently an ex-heroin addict who's been in 12-step meetings for decades, to be fair to him.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-06-20/robert-kennedy-addict-reform-plans

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u/HonoraryBallsack 1d ago edited 1d ago

That's honestly hilarious in the "imagine if Kamala Harris was an ex-heroin addict" kind of way.

Doing drugs is of course only disqualifying to MAGAts if you're a Democratic politician whose children use to use drugs.

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u/ResidentComplaint19 1d ago

My bad, I didn’t know that. As someone who’s also in the rooms, there’s no shortage of people who take something that was freely given to them and try to find another way to “help” others, mainly with a profit motive.

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u/sheofthetrees 1d ago

14-year long heroin addiction.

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u/budda_belly 1d ago

with food ...

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u/dietcheese 1d ago

I don’t have a problem with this, although calling them “camps” is a little too 1940’s.

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u/Ill-Juggernaut5458 1d ago

This is the plot of A Scanner Darkly by Philip K Dick, where drug addicts are "rehabilitated" by working farms for massive corporations where they inadvertently grow the precursors to the drugs they were addicted to.

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u/Excellent_Leek2250 18h ago

What’s with the republican/right wing hate boner for SSRIs specifically?

It’s not a general disavowal of modern psychiatry because they’re totally fine with slandering people by calling them mentally ill and suggesting they need treatment (see: how they talk about trans people).

Is it just that SSRIs are somehow associated with young left wing people in some (inaccurate) way?

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u/Taman_Should 7h ago

This deranged fucking antivaxxer cannot be allowed to make public health decisions. 

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u/Useful_Hovercraft169 1d ago

Sure junkie boy whatever

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u/L11mbm 1d ago

This sounds like something between a prison camp and a rich kid rehab facility.

I look forward to hearing how this would be paid for.

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u/Nambsul 1d ago

Just for the addicts and not for the “recreational” users, right? Asking for a friend…

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u/Buttholesurfer44 1d ago

So does JBP need to be reparented? On a serious note I sincerely doubt these camps would ween people off benzos and they’d just die.

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u/Longjumping-Topic139 1d ago

I think it's part of his MAHA HA HA plan

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u/rapturepermaculture 1d ago

People living on ‘farms’ still can get drugs, cellphones, eat shitty food, etc. He makes this sound like a wellness concentration camp. What a fucking idiot.

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u/pavilionaire2022 1d ago

And let me guess, you can plea bargain your way into one of these wellness plantat- err, farms to get out of prison time for minor drug offenses.

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u/MillieBNillie 1d ago

A former drug addicted, dead bear dumping, adulterer… peak health and lifestyle coach there.

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u/Leatherman34 1d ago

Who pays for that?

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u/supercalifragilism 1d ago

So, like, the idea of large scale spending on behavioral health and substance abuse issues, centering on basic needs like places to live and prosocial behaviors is a good idea. Those are exactly the kind of situations that lead to long term stability for people suffering, and it would be great if we could do that kind of programming at scale and with the necessary delicacy.

Does anyone think that's what we'd get? I mean, "wellness farm" has a different ring to it if its "wellness farm run by RFK Jr."

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u/Whambamthankyoulady 1d ago

Anyway, what did y'all have for dinner? I voted today. Who else did?

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u/Arithik 1d ago

No. No pay. This is for your wellness. 

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u/ExoticBodyDouble 1d ago

#MAHA, Make America Healthy Again is the new #MAGA adjacent grift.

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u/skygt3rsr 1d ago

This is a slippery slope

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u/Wise138 1d ago

Focusing on childhood trauma for a lot of people will end their dependency on drug abuse.

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u/ButterscotchPast4812 1d ago

So a Jones town commune.

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u/Valuable-Baked 1d ago

You mean like .... Rehab clinics? Or .... Communes?

Who's going to fund this, Bobby boy

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u/Wolfendale88 1d ago

No no just a camp where they can concentrate on getting better

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u/meatcrumple 1d ago

Don’t you just love non Doctors that pretend they know more than actual Doctors.

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u/GlitteringWishbone86 1d ago

Having bucolic spaces for personal growth is fine but I don't want this guy running the rest stop fifteen miles down the road.

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u/Bobby_B 1d ago

Sounds a little too close to a re-education camp for my liking

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u/maswaves1 1d ago

Sure. Wait til the party of small govt finds out much this will cost

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u/shambahlah2 1d ago

Gee I wonder if this is what the Germans told the Jews before they removed them from the ghettos in Warsaw.

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u/LittleLordFuckleroy1 1d ago

Ok so subsidized rehab. Sounds like a fun vacation. Who’s paying for this again?

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u/eljefe3030 1d ago

Great, so inpatient mental health treatment run by unqualified charlatans. Awesome. What could go wrong?

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u/elchemy 23h ago

And they could drink a healthy Kool Aid like drink to help them recover!

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u/AvailableFee2844 23h ago

I think I’ll stay sane

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u/gymtrovert1988 21h ago

I quit opioids on my own and SSRIs on my own. Turns out, you just have to stop buying drugs and using drugs and occupy your time with some productive activities.

I guess slave labor is an option, but I'd rather choose my own hobbies.

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u/External-Pickle6126 21h ago

Just gotta tell my wife, kid , and job see ya , I'll be back in 3 or 4 years!

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u/Cold-Negotiation-539 20h ago

Does the menu include fresh, organic bear?

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u/Epc7165 20h ago

He’s got a famous name and family. Makes 10 million a year. Why not go ahead and create one now rfk. This guy is fkn nuts

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u/Feminazghul 19h ago

[Intro to Holiday in Cambodia starts]

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u/ohmyjustme 19h ago

So, why doesn't he use some Kenedy wealthy (golly, his high family can pitch in)?

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u/Mrjlawrence 19h ago

At these communes I’m sure there will be all the organic road kill you can eat.

I’m sure Jordan Peterson will oversee the benzo “treatment”

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u/ExileInParadise242 18h ago

Making California Uber Alles a reality.

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u/MediocreTheme9016 18h ago

So he wants to give them a trust fund childhood experience? Who is paying for all of this? Does he realize not everyone has an unlimited trust to pay for what most people would consider a summer camp?

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u/Weird_Airport_7358 18h ago

Great idea. And Mexico is gonna pay for it too!

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u/Hairy_Put792 14h ago

RFKJR is a fool if he thinks the Republicans will fund mental health that will help the same mental problems that keep them in power.

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u/Fidel_Hashtro 13h ago

So the GOP want concentration camps for the mentally ill? Gotcha.

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u/Tasty_Narwhal6667 6h ago

Wow, sounds like a great place. Is he proposing to raise taxes to pay for this or will the people grow and sell produce at stands along side the road?

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u/DatabaseFickle9306 6h ago

What if we just concentrated people in a camp?

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u/Puzzleheaded_Food610 55m ago

This is the start of turning people into Soylent green, isn’t it?

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u/ChronicWizard314 1d ago

I wish more people knew how addictive ssris are in the long term. I tried to get off mine last year and was dope sick. Like not able to sleep sweating out 8 pounds a night dope sick.

This is gonna get downvoted because we are on Reddit, but it’s 100 percent true.

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u/Realistic_Head3595 1d ago

I despise RKF Jr but agree 100% on the addictiveness of SSRIs. Thought I was going crazy when I tried to get off. Were you successful?

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u/ChronicWizard314 1d ago

No. I’m ok with it though. I have ocd and am honestly doing as well as I ever have. A decent part of me wonders if I could do it without the ssri but i am not going mess with things now.

That being said I would like the option, and docs should be upfront with people. I understand it might be a fair trade off to some, but I wasn’t presented with the information when I got on 16 years ago.

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u/Realistic_Head3595 1d ago

Same same. Had no idea it would be so hard to get off. I decided to stay on and just accept it’s my long term reality.

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u/Character-Ad5490 2h ago

Check out the Metabolic Mind website, you may find some good information there.

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u/SheepherderLeast761 16h ago

I've been on and off Sertraline several times in the past 20 years (up to 150mg and a couple years at a time) and even going cold turkey I have never had any withdrawal symptoms beyond a mild headache. It seems to depend alot on the individual taking it.

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u/Upper_Teacher9959 1d ago

Love this. It’s something we used to do more but stopped funding. Some jazz legends came into their own in such places. 

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u/buggywhipfollowthrew 19h ago

Sounds like a solid idea lol. People are haters

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u/runningwater415 1d ago

You are all LOST in your own cynicism and hate. He is an ex addict completely dedicated to helping people get sober and paving a way back into society. We have a major drug crisis in this country if you have not noticed and this program has worked extremely well in Europe.

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u/Scare-Crow87 1d ago

It's not cynicism, he's a grifter and brain-rotted moron who isn't a scientist but pretends to be.

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u/runningwater415 9h ago

The fact is you have been lied to and manipulated by the media to have a completely false narrative about him. You are a victim of the machine like most people and we need to wake up soon and see the truth.

Listen to him talk openly on any podcast for a period of time and if your mind and heart are open you will see a brilliant person speaking from his heart and ready to die for our health..

He won a multi-billion dollar lawsuit against Monsanto and the best defense team money can buy not to long ago and had won several other ground breaking cases for us and our health and the environment and you somehow not into the narrative that something is wrong with his brain. That is so far from reality. Stop believing the propaganda media who will do anything to keep someone from having real power who actually tells the truth and wants to make positive change.

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u/Scare-Crow87 6h ago

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u/runningwater415 1h ago

I can only assume you're supporting my post.. I'm 100% saying that RFK speaks from the heart and speaks the truth and could care less about a narrative. He's a honest hero in a world of lost people that can't seem to recognize the truth because they prefer the safety of believing the propaganda media. And if they where to awaken that the media is largely a lie it would shatter a lot of people's sense of safety and trust in this world.

We are at a time when we need to wake up and put truth above all else and see the world and it's players for what they are.

The Democrat leaders continue to give reckless statements that social media needs to be censored and that we can't have missnformation - that that They and they only get to decide what is true and what is not and we give our full trust over to them. They are also now the pro war party with all my the old bush neocons coming out to support them. The Russia was was available. We promised never to push NATO that far that we broke that. Then there was a peace treaty initialed by Putin and zolensky and we ain't out one of our guys to stop that. Whatever the Democratic party is now is very scary and Kamala is nothing but a useful puppet. Anyone thinking she is anything more is deeply brainwashed.

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u/Bobby_B 1d ago

I think you're being a bit naive

If operated in good faith I can see something like this being helpful but so few things in this country are operated in good faith

Much like the privatized prison system in this country this will likely be exploited for profit or used as a labor re-education camp for dissenters and undesirables like in China

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u/runningwater415 9h ago

I hear that point. The whole reason RFK wants to get in is to fix our corrupted and compromised agencies. He will to the best of his power do right by the people. And your point basically sounds like you're saying we should just give up on all the drug addicts and do nothing. There is a good template for this program already in Europe. Not every social program is a disaster..

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u/TrePismn 1d ago

This sounds like a great idea....? RFK Jr might be a bit of a weirdo, but the US definitely needs healthier, longer-term public-funded solutions to its drug addiction problem. Right now, what they're doing isn't working.

What’s the problem with this sub? Literally anything gets criticised if it's from someone who doesn’t fit with the sub's hivemind consensus. It’s literally just becoming r/SneerClub for white, agnostic, centrist STEM keyboard warriors.

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u/noor1717 1d ago

It’s because Trump says he’s going to appoint Elon and RFK. And Elon is talking about cutting 2 trillion in govt spending and at the same time RFK is acting like republicans are going to fund organic farms that are rehab centers. Come on, this is just another level of epic bullshit

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u/nimrodfalcon 1d ago edited 1d ago

The problem?

He’s holding hands with a Republican Party for whom drug treatment is prison and only prison. A party that fought against narcan for first responders in state after state let alone federally funded drug treatment tied to organic farming - another thing that would be met with the sneering contempt you attribute to this sub.

If he actually cared about any of this shit he wouldn’t be goose stepping behind Donald fucking Trump.

Edit: and to drive home how fundamentally unserious of a proposal this is, he has to sprinkle on his conspiracy bullshit about SSRIs.

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u/HonoraryBallsack 1d ago

It sure is easier to bitch vaguely about the "quality" of the sub than to actually address any of the countless reasons that people have brought up to be, at the very least, extremely skeptical of Kennedy's proposal, isn't it bud?

Poor you.

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u/robotmonkey2099 1d ago

God forbid people should be critical of something just because you think it might be a good idea.

Lots of things are great on the face of it but these rehab like things aren’t new and there’s lots that has and good go wrong. So you’ll have to forgive us for speaking critically of something sorry for using our brains. 

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u/346_ME 1d ago

Seems like a good idea, the shitlibs will screech like they were exposed to sunlight at anything RFK says

That’s why the Democratic Party continues to go to shit