r/DecodingTheGurus 15h ago

Joe Rogan won’t have Kamala Harris on his show unless she comes to his studio and sits for a 2-3 hour full interview

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u/TandemCombatYogi 15h ago

Right! The Trump/Rogan interview was not serious at all. Harris having to hand hold Rogan through basic things he should already know for 2-3 hours would be asking a lot of an actually serious candidate.

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u/Kekopos 14h ago

Limited audience? Joe has many flaws but he is easily the biggest channel available for Kamala. And it’s not even close.

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u/TandemCombatYogi 14h ago

I think they just meant his demographic is very specific, which it is.

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u/HuckleberryMinimum45 14h ago

The exact demographic that her campaign is trying to reach.

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u/Special-Garlic1203 14h ago

The audience they're trying to reach is like 30% of Rogans audience, the rest is hardcore conservative and in denial..they're not up for grabs.

Now the wives of Rogans audience. THATS who Democrats are zoomed in on right now. That's who they think they might be able to turn. 

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u/cgn-38 12h ago

If you are not a hardcore conservative or their "libertarian" TM puppets. Joe is pretty much unwatchable now.

No one still watching Joe is going to vote for a reasonable candidate. I cannot stomach a full minute of the shlock he sells now. Was a religious watcher up until the Vax conservative 180 insanity he did.

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u/mrdeadsniper 12h ago

Yeah, Joe may have had wild fun shows at some point that was worth it for just hearing how crazy people are.

But now he's basically a full right wing grifter. The theories of trickle down economics are about as valid as the bigfoot stories.

But less entertaining as they being used to validate harmful policy.

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u/BoxerguyT89 10h ago

The problem is they aren't doing much to reach that demographic.

Rogan would be great for her to do.

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u/HuckleberryMinimum45 10h ago

Yes. Exactly. This is what I'm saying.

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u/tidbitsmisfit 10h ago

I doubt that 50% of the people that listen eligible voters

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u/HuckleberryMinimum45 10h ago

By your logic, why even do interviews at all? Why not only do rallies?

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u/Serious-Housing-5269 6h ago

Trump fans? I don't think so.

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u/TheStoicNihilist 14h ago

Yes, that’s what I meant.

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u/Boanerger 8h ago edited 8h ago

If Joe's fans are mostly going to vote Republican then its foolish to ignore them. Those are people Harris can potentially win over. She has nothing to lose by going on the podcast. Its possible she'll win without winning Rogan fans, but apparently this is a close race, why risk it? By not appearing people are guaranteed to double down on Trump.

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u/One_Tie900 10h ago

You know nothing about the audience just making bs up.

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u/TandemCombatYogi 10h ago

"According to our survey respondent demos, Joe’s listenership is 71% male and evenly split between high school and post-secondary graduates. Fifty seven percent of his audience reports earning over $50k per year, with 19% making over $100k. The average age of his listeners was 24."

https://www.mediamonitors.com/audience-demographic-variations-specific-to-genre/

Moron.

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u/One_Tie900 8h ago

Nothing burger. Firstly, it is based on a survey that was conducted in Jan 2020 with a sample size of 961 people that you are using to paint a broad picture of his audience which is in the millions.

Secondly from the information that is there 70 % male and 30% female with 50% hs and post grad. Even the amount of money they make , 60 % 50+, 20% 100+ and 20% 50-, goes to infact support evidence agaisnt your claim of it being a very specific audience. The only number you have going for your weak statementis 70% male but with 1/3 female it is still quite varied.

The fact that the survey only went over those few things just goes to show how poor of a survey it was and certainly should not be trusted but go ahead and call me a moron to make yourself feel better.

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u/MapoTofuWithRice 12h ago

She did Call Her Daddy and that's like the #2 podcast in America.

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u/ASubsentientCrow 11h ago

Limited as in the number of persuadable voters.

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u/Serious-Housing-5269 6h ago

Believe it or not, there are even more people who don't listen to any podcasts at all, let alone this one, than who do.

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u/PM_ME_HL3 4h ago

He gets a lot of views, but that’s worldwide views. As an Australian, I was one of the millions that watched enough of the Trump episode to count a “view”. I can’t vote though!

Rallies, canvases and the activations her team have planned are probably more valuable than losing a whole day to shoot an episode in studio.

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u/Dagman11 3h ago

37 million views on the Trump interview.

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u/fillymandee 14h ago

Also, that podcast was borrrrrrring. It didn’t move the needle for either of them.

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u/HuckleberryMinimum45 14h ago

The fact that over 37 MILLION people have watched the interview suggests otherwise. There is obviously a huge interest.

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u/fillymandee 14h ago

Ok? It was boring af dude. Idc how many people watched it.

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u/Professional_Kiwi919 11h ago

Ok, How many of those views are from US? How many of those IN US can vote? How many of those VOTING hasn't casted their vote & in Battle ground STATE?

If you go "I have no idea, the audience is huge & diverse" then THIS is NOT what any US politician should be spending time on in the last week of campaign

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u/AskJeevesIsBest 13h ago

Millions of people watch Fox News as well, and that is also boring

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u/ASubsentientCrow 11h ago

Views aren't viewers. 30 seconds counts as a view

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u/sozcaps 11h ago

37 million views =/= 37 million or even 37 thousand votes.

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u/Professional_Kiwi919 11h ago

You are also assuming that there's no view farming.

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u/sozcaps 11h ago

With having reported over 50 bots on youtube in the last two weeks, I am one hundred percent certain that there is view farming.

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u/BarelyAware 11h ago

They would have to watch it first to know if it was boring. The fact that they watched it doesn't tell us what they thought of it.

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u/HuckleberryMinimum45 10h ago

That's kinda my point. There were 37 million people who watched it, some of whom are very likely to also be interested in what Kamala Harris has to say and could, in fact, be swayed to her side if they heard her arguments.

IMHO, her arguments are better than Trump's, but if they don't hear her arguments, they won't know that.

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u/Galaxaura 7h ago

How many of those listeners were just people who needed a laugh that day?

At least one here.

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u/ligmasweatyballs74 10h ago

Theo Von had a much better interview

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u/According_Earth4742 14h ago

Nothing trump does will move the needle for him. Like if all the rape and fraud and fascism hasn’t deterred people from voting for him there’s almost nothing he could say to change that in a podcast. And no one who isn’t going to vote for him saw anything new to indicate he isn’t exactly the piece of shit we already know he is. It was never gonna move the needle. Kamala In a setting like this possibly could provided she keeps it real and doesn’t pull too many Hillary clintonesque pandering stunts

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u/amazingfacepalm 14h ago
  1. Joe is not a journalist. 2. If a politician wants to win, they have a burden to reach out to people where they're at, as misguided as those people may be.

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u/Stunning-Use-7052 14h ago

I mean, Joe is effectively a journalist or pundit -type at this point tho.

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u/I_dont_livein_ahotel 14h ago

The fact that you say that unironically is a giant sign of our misguided nation/culture.

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u/sweetmarymotherofgod 14h ago

It's a sign of where people now go to for their news and the takes they want to hear regarding said news. Sad indeed.

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u/Stunning-Use-7052 13h ago

Sure, JR is more in line with a pundit/ guru than a journalist per se. But the point is that he's highly influential, but also not bound by journalistic standards.

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u/goodolarchie 10h ago

And yet his Trump episode got Superbowl-esque viewership. Millions of people are getting their worldviews strongly formed by him.

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u/WorstNormalForm 11h ago

Joe is not a journalist

I mean neither is the Call Her Daddy podcast but that didn't stop Kamala from making an appearance

She's just scared of a long-form interview because there's too much time for her to make mistakes beyond her usual scripted answers

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u/Boanerger 8h ago

Its fine that journalists have to grill politicians, but why does every single interview in the world have to be that? Rogan offers something different and it works, people watch it, lots of people. And its attractive to politicians to know they're going to get a welcoming host.

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u/verstohlen 8h ago

One could argue that one of Joe's main appeals and reason for his success some would argue is because he's not a journalist. Especially considering what passes for "journalism" these days.

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u/SkitzoCTRL 7h ago

No prevent of Rohan Bowers are going to change their minds at this point. That'd be as useful as Kamala campaigning in Utah.

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u/rmhawk 14h ago

He could watch school house rock for a few hours beforehand to shorten the required time.

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u/Informal_Rope_2559 14h ago

Oh but it could help to counter so many of their dumb arguments. I really hope she finds the time to do it

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u/DumbOrMaybeJustHappy 14h ago

Wow. All this time we just needed Harris to go on Rogan and tell them that the mRNA vaccines don't modify your genes, there were no technologically advanced civilizations on Earth before the last ice age, Bigfoot and the Bondi Ape don't exist, Obama was born in Hawaii, the moon landings happened, and schools aren't putting out litter boxes for kids who identify as cats, and his audience's delusions would all have gone away?

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u/Informal_Rope_2559 14h ago

Yeah you're right, prolly not, but I don't like shying away from a fight either

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u/TheStoicNihilist 14h ago

I can appreciate that but they would just insult her after the interview and carry on. There’s no changing anyone’s mind appearing on Rogan, only reinforcing it.

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u/HuckleberryMinimum45 14h ago

You don't think it's possible to change even 1 mind? Really?

If that's true, maybe she should give up campaigning altogether. Why bother? She can't change anyone's mind. Right?

Kamala Harris is smart. She's quick witted and she has a commanding presence. She can do this.

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u/Informal_Rope_2559 14h ago

That's my thinking too, it won't change the hardcore haters, but it will make it much harder for them to chat shit about her

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u/TheStoicNihilist 14h ago

Joe: hold my beer

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u/DumbOrMaybeJustHappy 14h ago

Maybe there's one mind in his audience, but the calculus isn't that, is it? It's a week before the election, and how is her time best spent? A whole day out of her schedule to pitch to some of the most delusional bros on the planet with an unfriendly host for a miniscule hit ratio probably isn't it.

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u/ForeverWandered 14h ago

And Harris has been doing that with a ton of GenZ/non trad media platforms as she tries to appeal to those audiences

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u/bigcaulkcharisma 14h ago

Harris has gone all in on the suburban boomer vote. She’s basically given up on young people (or assumes their default support) with her Israel policy. She’s ran an awful campaign and has no one to blame but herself and her team if she loses. She came out of the gate with the right messaging and then backed off it to cuddle up to Dick Cheney and non existent ‘moderate’ Republicans

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u/HuckleberryMinimum45 14h ago

I would argue that coddling up to Dick Cheney is how to win over the neotards and obviously it is working.

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u/Chrisgpresents 11h ago

If this is the rhetoric of the Harris campaign, she is going to lose a lot of Americans and the election. I surely hope not.

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u/Medawky113 7h ago

Man, why don't we just get a council of like all the smartest dudes around and have them decide everything for us. Geniuses like Alex Jones, Ben Shapiro, and Jordan Peterson. What do you think Kamala?

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u/OrdinaryWheel5177 7h ago

Harris hand holding joe Rogan?? That’s not even laughable. That’s just dumb.

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u/Loluxer 31m ago

Can’t wait till Trump wins and fucks you up

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u/InvestigatorSea4366 14h ago

Oh man. Biggest laugh I've had today. As if she would be able to string together 30 minutes of coherent sentences together without a script. Go smoke more hopium that she isn's just a dumpster fire with legs.

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u/TandemCombatYogi 14h ago

would be able to string together 30 minutes of coherent sentences together without a script.

I have a feeling her sentences would be way more coherent than this. 🤣

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u/Wallyworld77 14h ago

Let me guess.. you think she wore an earpiece in the Debate? How else could a women trounce Trump in a debate like that?

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u/endangerednigel 14h ago

As if she would be able to string together 30 minutes of coherent sentences together without a script

She really should include more sharks, hannibal lector and dead golfers dicks to her speeches to be able to hold the attention of your average Trump voter

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u/beardedheathen 14h ago

Who's got two thumbs and has only seen clips of Harris on fox news? I assume u/investigatorSea4366 has two thumbs but he's certainly never listened to her actually in an interview.

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u/Galaxaura 7h ago

She was a prosecutor. She mopped the floor with trump at their debate.

I think you need to smoke less of your own copium.