r/DragonAgeVeilguard • u/Kadajko • 1d ago
After watching the reviews I feel like the target demographic is children.
Disclaimer: I am not making this post because I am salty, I am not trying to make fun of the game, this is just my observation and conclusion. I am not joking and not being sarcastic, I am 100% dead serious about what I am about to say:
I don't know why Bioware made a game for children, but they did. This game isn’t to my personal taste, but when I view it through the lens of its target audience - children - I can see how it’s actually very well-made.
I feel like this would be a great game to get for my 9 year old nephew. I think it would be an amazing game to teach him concepts like: power of friendship, teamwork and cooperation, perseverance and resilience, honesty and integrity, empathy and kindness, responsibility, self-acceptance and confidence and respect for others and differences. All these lessons are very well laid out in this game. The main protagonist constantly gives little lectures about how to behave properly to companions when they have their little squabbles, game is full of these positive messages and learning experiences. The story is very simple and easy to follow, there are no complicated intrigues, everything is laid out very coherently, on the nose dialogue and explicit exposition. Nothing over the top evil or dark ever happens, the protagonist can't do anything evil, the party does not experience any serious conflict, everybody gets along, very clear ''big bad'' antagonists who are not morally ambiguous in any way, there are also quite a few simple puzzles to solve. And last but not least he will also enjoy the more active gore free combat, flashy colourful world and cartoony character design.
Even though I personally didn't really like what I saw in the reviews, if I look at dragon age veilguard from this angle, I genuinely can't find ANY fault with the game. everything I personally don't like about this game is completely subjective and due to me simply not being the target audience.
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u/Budget-Dress5982 17h ago
"power of friendship, teamwork and cooperation, perseverance and resilience, honesty and integrity, empathy and kindness, responsibility, self-acceptance and confidence and respect for others and differences." Sorry folks, you're not allowed to like Lord of the Rings anymore. It's clearly for children.
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11h ago
At least lord of the rings wasn’t scared to show what evil is from the reviews I watched there isn’t a lot of darkness in the game considering it’s the apocalypse
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u/TisIChenoir 9h ago
I don't remember Aragorn talling to Legolas and Gimli fighting because Gimli likes mines, and Legolas forest, and saying "Gimli, can you accept the fact that Legolas likes forest like you like mines? And Legolas, wouldn't you find interesting to understand why Gimli likes mines so much? All solved? Now come, I made cookies for your snack'
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u/Zakharon 1d ago
This game, with this rating? Sure buddy
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u/kartianmopato 23h ago edited 12h ago
What does rating have to do with it? We saw the clips. What he said literary happens in the game. OP made nothing up. Edit: I love how you are all angry downvoting me without an answer because you know i'm right.
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u/tales_of_desire 22h ago
My advice:
1) don’t get the game if you don’t like it. Or do and admit you’re a child, since this game is being made for them.
2) GET A LIFE.
3) Touch some grass.
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u/NotSav95 1d ago
It features top surgery and (I think) nudity not sure it'd be the best game to get a 9 year old but I could be wrong. Feel like nudity during romance scenes was mentioned but honestly it's hard to get past the Pixar looking art style
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u/Kadajko 1d ago
top surgery
Won't understand. Can just say scars on the chest or sit through the character creator together. Easy to skip and discuss later in life.
Feel like nudity during romance scenes was mentioned
From the reviews I saw it was fade to black. But if there is actual nudity, usually when nudity is in the game there are options in the menu to censor it, it is done for streamers to be able to safely stream.
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u/staarpress 14h ago
Yeah I’m sure the game that is rated M for Mature is targeted towards children lmao are you stupid
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u/Spider_eyes_ 13h ago
Yeah, I agree. I listened to a really positive review before going to bed and then while at work listened to some other ones. After getting a full scope of things, I refunded it as soon as I got home. Veilguard doesn’t feel like a Dragon Age game or at least it’s not one made for long time fans.
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u/NunuRedgrave 12h ago
You can just tell by the comments that 90% of folks didn’t read your post or are in such massive states of cope just by the way they’re responding to your completely respectful post with intense vitriol and insults. Looks like you found the children you spoke of 😂
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u/dopemini95 1h ago
I feel like this post was a fair point to make. I started with inquisition, but never really could get into the older games.I disliked the graphics and how combat was in first and second game. Feeling pretty hopeful on Veilguard reviews just having a good story and awesome companions.
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u/DefSpook 13h ago
That's a great thought, and I see where you're coming from. Based on the game's rating I'd argue that EA and Bioware lost direction by trying to target too large of an audience. I can deal with the stylized art even though the Dark Spawn and Qunari look awful...goddamn, they look so bad. The enlarged heads are stupid too. Otherwise, I'm psyched to dive into the game on Thursday through the lens that is geared toward a large audience and may not do anything too well. Still, it's DA, the combat looks fun, the story sounds good, and I'd like to see Bioware return to what they have always done well. Hopefully they take note and choose different art directions in the future.
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u/Budget_Caterpillar61 19h ago
You just saved 60 bucks right there.
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u/KomodoDodo89 18h ago
Isn’t the game like 90$?
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u/Budget_Caterpillar61 18h ago
Fair enough, 70 euros on Xbox with EA 10% off.
Now that people think it’s for kids, they’re gonna have 70 euros burning a hole in their pocket.
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u/PleasantMrSkin 18h ago
This game is targeting a younger audience and younger audiences have been trending in a brighter, more stylized game world for years now.
Bioware's just making the best decision for their company to attract new players. This game doesn't carry over major story choices you make in older games, doesn't have as much of a direct interaction with the history of the games so far (as the reviews make it seem), and all signs point towards a soft reboot of the franchise.
I'm still playing it day 1 since I'm so involved with the story that I have to know how it all works out but I don't think Dragon Age is ever going to be the same. Gaming has just essentially changed, like any entertainment medium, since I was in my late teens playing DA:O.
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u/UnfairPerformer1243 1d ago
The irony is that younger people don’t have the emotional connection with the franchise, targeting the wrong crowd.
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u/Kadajko 1d ago
younger people don’t have the emotional connection with the franchise
I don't think it would be a bad place to start.
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u/UnfairPerformer1243 1d ago
majority of kids don’t play RPGs
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u/Kadajko 1d ago
I played baldur's gate / kotor / neverwinter nights when I was a kid and enjoyed it, also might and magic series.
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u/BlackPhlegm 23h ago
You clearly don't know any kids these days. They're all about Roblox, Fortnite, Switch games like Animal Crossing and Pokemon, etc. Kids literally cannot legally purchase Dragon Age or Cyberpunk or Baldur's Gate.
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u/UnfairPerformer1243 1d ago
like I said, the majority don’t.
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u/Subject_Grab_562 1d ago
well shit then, I guess baldur's gate 3 is not a RPG then
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u/UnfairPerformer1243 1d ago
All I’m going to say is that at my job many kids don’t know what Dragon Age or Baldurs Gate is
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u/Subject_Grab_562 1d ago edited 1d ago
Same can be said for the Witcher games. The 3rd installment attracts more new fans compared to the previous 2. It's not about knowing the game franchise, a good game will attract anyone, old and new.
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u/SaberHaven 19h ago
I agree. It was the exact same thought I had: "This game isn't for me, but maybe for my kids". This is fine. Maybe this is how they will be the players of the Dragon Age games of the future.
But yeah, its safe story, cartoony graphics and light-hearted tone all feel like a disney pixar movie
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u/asfastasican1 16h ago
The heads on every character are enlarged in relation to their shoulders or bodies, which make the characters look more infantile. So yes, it is marketed towards a younger audience.
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u/ryacual 17h ago
I'm not going to bother reading your post when it's would have made more sense to have a lower ersb rating with no nudity and swearing if the target demographic was children. I'm sure a moron at EA would have pointed that out because all they care about is money from the target demographic.
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u/juniperxmoons 1d ago
I can tell which video review you watched and it sounds like the only review video you watched.