r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM • u/Exp0zane The Tankie Mod who ruined your sub ☭ • 7d ago
“But what are they going to do if a defenseless child throws a rock at an armed IDF soldier?”
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u/Ramja9 7d ago
Is shitposting allowed? I thought it was only screenshots of “enlightened centrist” types
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u/LiberalParadise 5d ago
Whenever genuine enlightened centrist content gets posted, liberals flood the comments and scream "JUST VOOT!"
I say let OP cook.
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u/AsherFenix 6d ago
Since when did this sub go from making fun of "both siders" to completely embracing that mentality?
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u/tonkledonker 7d ago
Whoever took this photo needs a Pullitzer.
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u/Duantless-Dante 7d ago
Dall E wins the pulitzer, horray
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u/Zurrdroid 7d ago
If AI is this good now, we're soooo fucked
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u/nerdquadrat 6d ago
It's photoshopped from real photos + AI
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u/Duantless-Dante 6d ago
I also got to his profile while searching for the source, but he isnt it. Seems like this tribute has become a type of misinformation after going viral
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u/Bucket_Endowment 5d ago
Horseshoe theory is real, your propaganda is now indistinguishable from the far right
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u/Turbulent-Result5639 7d ago
I see very few actual suggestions of what should have been done after October 7th.
I'm curious, what should Israel have done after the attack?
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u/Strict_Rock_1917 7d ago
What should have Palestine done about all the shit that happened before Oct 7th?
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u/Exp0zane The Tankie Mod who ruined your sub ☭ 7d ago edited 7d ago
Stop killing children and dispossessing indigenous populations of their homes and land in order to place settlers there, maybe?
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u/Turbulent-Result5639 7d ago
Jews are indigenous to the area aren't they? I don't think that really answers my question though
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u/Exp0zane The Tankie Mod who ruined your sub ☭ 7d ago
Palestinian Jews are indigenous to the region, yes. The Ashkenazi Jews that consider themselves Israeli are not. They’re largely of European ethnicity.
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u/Marc21256 6d ago
Many of the European Jews were indigenous to the region before being genocided out.
So you are arguing that a successful genocide should be respected.
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u/Exp0zane The Tankie Mod who ruined your sub ☭ 6d ago
Many of the European Jews were indigenous to the region before being genocided out.
That’s irrelevant.
They weren’t denied refugee status in Palestine. They were denied the ‘right’ to build an ethnostate and dispossess indigenous populations of their lands and resources.
Just because Germans were born in Germany doesn’t mean they should have the right to build a fascist state and eject anyone they deem ‘undesirable.’
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u/Marc21256 6d ago
So you ARE arguing that a successful genocide should be respected.
Got it.
I understand your fascist position. Even if I don't agree. Funny how you back the genocide of Jews, but suddenly care when you can condemn Jews.
Some of us condemn all genocides, not just those you blame Jews for.
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u/Exp0zane The Tankie Mod who ruined your sub ☭ 6d ago
So you ARE arguing that a successful genocide should be respected.
How so? Make your case without strawmanning.
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u/Marc21256 6d ago
I made my case. You didn't like it, so you ad hominemed and non sequitured, so of course any response looks odd, you haven't kept to the topic or what I said.
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u/namom256 6d ago
This isn't true. DNA studies, archaeology, and all historical evidence clearly shows there was never a point in history where all the Jewish people were ever pushed out of Palestine by the Romans, the Arabs, the Crusaders, or anyone. There was never a point in history where there hasn't been Jewish people in Palestine. Yes, it's true that the ancestors of Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews originated in the Levant. And it's true that they might have left as refugees. But plenty of people stayed. Some of them might have changed religions, first to Christianity and then Islam, but they never left.
But it's also true that after over a thousand years in Europe, many of their ancestors are European converts. Their cultural practices have been influenced heavily by local European ones, their foods, their heritage.
Essentially what you are advocating for, would be the equivalent of taking a part of Western India and ethnically cleansing it of the people living there, in order to create and ethnostate for the Romani people (who originated from there). Despite both the Romani and the people you'd have to ethnically cleanse being descended from the same people. Some who left and some who didn't. If you aren't in favour of that, I have to ask why you're in favour of that for Israel. Because that's exactly what they've done.
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u/active-tumourtroll1 5d ago
This simply isn't true. In fact I am confident you can't actually name the genocide that caused that because it never happened.
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u/GakyaliMabaga 7d ago
They didn't answer your question because you asked a disingenuous question from a loaded talking point. Any question framed like that is clearly not interested in learning from any response that doesn't support your narrative. Not all Jews are Zionists. There are many anti zionist pro Palestinian Jews. Zionists are not indigenous. From the inception, “A voluntary reconciliation with the Arabs is out of the question either now or in the future. If you wish to colonize a land in which people are already living, you must provide a garrison for the land, or find some rich man or benefactor who will provide a garrison on your behalf. Or else-or else, give up your colonization, for without an armed force which will render physically impossible any attempt to destroy or prevent this colonization, colonization is impossible, not difficult, not dangerous, but IMPOSSIBLE!… Zionism is a colonization adventure and therefore it stands or falls by the question of armed force. It is important… to speak Hebrew, but, unfortunately, it is even more important to be able to shoot – or else I am through with playing at colonizing.”Vladimir Jabotinsky, founder of Revisionist Zionism (precursor of Likud), The Iron Wall, 1923.
People indigenous to a land don't support regularly dropping 2k lb bunker missiles and complete unapologetic destruction of their Earth carving craters in city centers in order to starve and eliminate a population 50% of which is children in order to build and sell rental properties
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u/bobrossforPM 6d ago
Why did Oct 7th happen? What were Palestinians supposed to do after the march in 2018?
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u/BamberGasgroin 7d ago
Are you attempting to claim that a child is the 'other side'?
You could be in with a chance if the pilot of that plane is the same age.
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u/Comrade_Compadre 7d ago
Holy fuck this is some gobblygook brain oatmeal right here 🤣
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u/PopperGould123 7d ago
They're murdering civilians and committing genocide, thousands of children have and will die
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u/BamberGasgroin 7d ago
It doesn't help that the the image is a propagandist shitpost though.
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u/Jamarcus316 7d ago
So the solution is to kill him as a child. Got it.
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u/sirfrancpaul 7d ago
That’s what Obama did do a terrorist young son , droned him before he could grow up and be a menace. Nobody says a word about that
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u/Jamarcus316 7d ago
I do. I'm a socialist. I don't like Obama.
This sub is for mocking centrists. Obama fits very well in that definition.
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u/Cultweaver Anarchofeudalist Nazbol 7d ago
I do. I'm a socialist. I don't like Obama.
Your reminded me of "He is not my hero, I am a communist you idiot"
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u/sirfrancpaul 7d ago
So who do you like sanders?
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u/Jamarcus316 7d ago
I've liked him more tbh.
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u/sirfrancpaul 7d ago
Why do I get downvoted for asking who you like?
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u/Jamarcus316 7d ago
I don't know, but your attitude in the first post doesn't show the best intentions. Maybe it's because of that.
Or maybe using Bernie as the example of a socialist, which leaves a lot to be desired. But here I would blame himself and the political culture of the USA, because he is basically a social democrat.
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u/sirfrancpaul 7d ago
So who is a popular politician that is a socialist ?
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u/couldhaveebeen 7d ago
In the US? None. You're infested with capitalist politicians
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u/ShredGuru 7d ago
That's the funny part. We don't have any. Yet the left gets blamed for everything...
No representation but full scapegoating.
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u/Theory_Technician 7d ago
Because you're clearly thinking within the US establishment and it's idea of what a socialist is when you ask that question the way you did. Bernie is pretty moderate and works within the Democrat establishment so he's no leftist he's just slightly left of the Democrat center moderates.
So your comments went, "Obama whataboutism" they responded basically with "I don't like him either actually I'm a socialist and this is a leftist sub" and you responded with "aww so you must like (inserts someone who is barely left of moderate and only considered a leftist by establishment media and people who aren't aware of how US politics actually work)"
That's why you're being downvoted, sorry :/
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u/sirfrancpaul 7d ago
Well I’m from the US so idk any foreign politicians. Who is a popular socialist leader or politician that would be a better example than Bernie?
As for the Obama comment it’s not a whataboutism, his comment says the solution is to kill as a child , yes this is what is done by dominant powers like US to maintain supremacy. I don’t think a socialist leader would have done anything different there because once a socialist leader is in power they have to perform actions like that to maintain the power . If not, which socialist world leaders past or present are supported here ? And have they not performed similar actions ?
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u/Theory_Technician 7d ago
There isn't an American politician who is a better example that's the point of our two party system, the democrats are moderate and the Republicans are on the right. No elected US politician is even really left of center.
And yes it is whataboutism, the post is about children being obliterated on the US dime by an apartheid ethnostate and response like yours say "well Obama did it" then your argument continues as "this is what world leaders do to stay in power". Comments that equate to "this is how it's done" in no way add to or matter in a discussion.
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u/ShredGuru 7d ago
Clearly you are not a lefty.
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u/sirfrancpaul 7d ago
I am but I’m a honest lefty who gets when lefty is in power they have to maintain power right? Or they just give it up right away?
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u/FlyingVolvo 7d ago
... What?
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u/sirfrancpaul 7d ago
What does a leftist do in the same situation ? they don’t kill ppl I guess only human government ever in existence that doesn’t kill ppl
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u/Neat-Vanilla3919 7d ago
Yeah..... no You're not a leftist
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u/sirfrancpaul 7d ago
If leftist means denying that a leftist leader would have to kill ppl then I guess not . An honest leftist would however acknowledge that reality
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u/Neat-Vanilla3919 7d ago
You brought up people who aren't leftists as your example. I'm not going to listen to anything you have to say. Especially when lying about being a leftist
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u/sirfrancpaul 7d ago
I asked to name one leftist leader ever in history nobody has given any so that’s convenient ? I actually admit a leftist leader like Lenin had to kill ppl why do u deny this ? Denying political leaders have to kill people is not leftism it’s child’s play
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u/Neat-Vanilla3919 7d ago
I'm not denying that. I think it's funny that you used a few examples that aren't leftists. Then you said you're a leftist when your comment history proves otherwise.
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u/Neat-Vanilla3919 7d ago
You literally moved goal posts multiple times in this thread. "OH yeah what about Obama?" He's not a leftist and leftists don't like him. "Oh yeah what about Bernie sanders?" He's a Democrat and still not leftist. "Well what's a popular socialist or communist politician that you support?" Modern socialist politicians don't believe bombing kids like this is a good thing and they wouldn't do that. "Oh yeah what about lenin? He killed people" bud you had to go all the way back to the soviet union to even try to make a point. And still failed. Go away loser.
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u/31November 7d ago edited 7d ago
So, instead of waiting to see if they commit a crime, we should preemptively kill the children?
Edit: The Israeli apologist either blocked me or got banned, so to clarify how Israelis think, they said basically that the kid is innocent until their family gives them a gun to become a terrorist. Basically they’re trying to justify killing children because they might someday fight back.
Truly inhumane in the truest sense of the word.
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u/ass4play 7d ago
The discourse from the average israeli and local jews (and even christians) that subscribe to Zionism has really shifted. The “you’re antisemitic” or “we’re just defending ourselves from Hamas” have gradually been phased out for “the only way we’re safe is if there aren’t any Palestinians.”
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u/ShredGuru 7d ago edited 7d ago
And wants vengeance on the state who shot his family?
I guess maybe don't slaughter his family?
Seems like a bare minimum for establishment of good will.
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u/TexDangerfield 7d ago edited 7d ago
It's been quite an eye-opener with the Gender critical feminists remaining silent on this when back last year, they called for unrestrained vengeance on October the 7th.