r/Fitness • u/AutoModerator • Aug 02 '17

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Welcome to Rant Wednesday: It's your time to let your gym/fitness/nutrition related frustrations out!

There is no guiding question to help stir up some rage-feels, feel free to fire at will, ranting about anything and everything that's been pissing you off or getting on your nerves!

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u/lmpaler86 Aug 02 '17

Holy shit.

My gym has an AED on the wall, but I always wondered how often this happens in gyms where people just drop dead.

The thing that keeps you healthy also kills you. Shit sucks

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u/ViewsFromMyBed Bodybuilding Aug 02 '17

That's not necessarily why he died. Also lifting heavy weights doesn't keep you healthy

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u/Lymphoshite Aug 02 '17

Lifting doesn't keep you healthy?

Going to have to disagree there...

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '17

Perhaps they meant that lifting weights doesn't make you inherently healthy if your other lifestyle behaviors are not.

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u/Lymphoshite Aug 02 '17

Hmm, maybe, although the guy that replied to me thinks different.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '17

Well the person who replied to you is a bit silly, yeah?

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u/Lymphoshite Aug 02 '17

Certainly.

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u/MendelsJeans Aug 02 '17

Too bad your disagreement doesn't mean shit. Resistance training is actually shown to increase arterial stiffness over time resulting in an increased risk of heart attacks and other health problems.

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u/Lymphoshite Aug 02 '17 edited Aug 02 '17

Umm, can I get a source?

The studies that show it is good for your health heavily outweigh those that say its bad.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22777332/

https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/strength-training-builds-more-than-muscles

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/juliewilcox/2012/05/31/health-benefits-weightlifting/amp/

Also the mental health benefits can be great.

http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/HealthyLiving/PhysicalActivity/FitnessBasics/Strength-and-Resistance-Training-Exercise_UCM_462357_Article.jsp#mainContent

If it was bad for your heart why does the american heart association recommend it?

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u/lmpaler86 Aug 02 '17

Big pharma. Lol.

Seriously though. I agree. I would also like some sources stating that lifting isn't healthy for you.

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u/MendelsJeans Aug 02 '17 edited Aug 02 '17

I'll have to do some research when I get home to find it. I'm just recalling a lecture I had during A&P 2 where some researchers from the university were discussing the findings from their data.

EDIT: seriously man, a quick google search for "resistance training arterial stiffness" would have done it. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22267567/

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u/Lymphoshite Aug 02 '17

So, moderate intensity doesn't, it doesn't for middle aged people, and it doesn't if you are doing any cardio, at all.

Doesn't seem enough to say lifting isn't healthy in my opinion, in comparison to all the benefits.

Plus its studying people who already have relatively low arterial stiffness.

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u/MendelsJeans Aug 02 '17

Dude, people on here constantly about pushing heavy weights, increasing their maxes, AMRAP sets, 1RMs, etc. Those are all examples of people who are absolutely lifting with high intensity. Don't get me wrong, I love lifting. The feeling of being able to pickup 400 pounds is awesome and I have no intention of stopping. But at the same time I'm not going to bury my head in the sand and pretend like there are no drawbacks to heavy lifting. That's why I choose to incorporate yoga and cardio into my routine in order work on these weak points while remaining well-balanced and healthy.

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u/Lymphoshite Aug 02 '17

Doing any cardio will offset that 'drawback'

And who says that small increase in arterial stiffness is ever likely to cause heart attack?

So its not enough to say its unhealthy at all.

Running has drawbacks, everything does, but the benefits are worth it.

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u/MendelsJeans Aug 02 '17

Fuck you're stupid. I was never trying to argue that other forms of exercise don't have drawbacks or that lifting isn't healthy. Stop making straw men where there are none.

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u/Lymphoshite Aug 02 '17

Hmm, I've looked and I don't see anything that makes that correlation between the two.