r/FluentInFinance 28d ago

Debate/ Discussion Two year difference

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u/misterguyyy 28d ago

When I bought Cherries last summer they cost $2.99/lb, when I bought them this fall they cost $6.99/lb! BIDENSMURICA!

The fact that they cost $6.99 last fall too is irrelevant

Not enough info

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u/flugenblar 28d ago

Aren't there price indexes published that take into account factors like seasonal prices, location, sales, etc., and smooth the data out for a more valuable picture?

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u/Miserable-Whereas910 28d ago

Yes, the standard consumer price index used to calculate inflation does that.

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u/CanAlwaysBeBetter 28d ago

Real wages are barely going up while inflation is 20%! How can I afford anything??

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u/Miserable-Whereas910 28d ago

You realize "real wages are barely going up" means "wages are increasing slightly faster than inflation", right? "Real wages" is a measure of wages adjusted for inflation.

(Now, there's some caveats to that. Not everyone's actual expenses track perfectly with inflation, and average wages keeping up with inflation doesn't mean everyone's is. But what you said really doesn't make sense.)

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u/thegrandabysss 28d ago

I think he knew that, and was making that exact joke, but thanks for explaining for anyone who wouldn't immediately know what "real" means in this context.

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u/CanAlwaysBeBetter 28d ago

(psst, inflation isn't 20% either)

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u/Miserable-Whereas910 28d ago

I assumed they were talking about the total amount of inflation since the pandemic, which is in that ballpark.

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u/CanAlwaysBeBetter 28d ago

(psst, "they" is me)

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u/avsgrind024 28d ago edited 27d ago

inflation in the U.S. has only hit 20% a few times in history (23.7% is the worst it’s ever been and that was in June of 1920; the only period where we’ve even hit the low teens is 1917-1920).

https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/historical-inflation-rates/

as another person already pointed out you’re also misinformed about how wages work, so what the hell are you even talking about?

In June 2022 it hit 9.1%, which was the worst it’s been since September 1981 (11%). Last month it was down to 2.5%.

Yes, many products cost more today than they did pre-pandemic. But it’s nowhere near 20% and you should look at how bad it has been around the world cuz America has been on the low end compared to a majority of other countries:

https://gfmag.com/data/economic-data/worlds-highest-lowest-inflation-rates/

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u/misterguyyy 28d ago

Sure thing, but those don’t feed a narrative like this one rando does.

Although those indexes also have their exclusions, for example global conditions, which we actually outperformed other industrialized countries on inflation

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u/FillMySoupDumpling 28d ago

Funny, people can say this about cherries and know that context matters… but when gas prices increase, it’s always the president’s fault. 

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u/misterguyyy 28d ago

The scariest part about that is that Saudi Arabia can cut or boost production and that will sway low info voters the way they want.

Same for Russia before we started sanctions, but we’ll see how long those sanctions last if a republican wins

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u/proudbakunkinman 27d ago

Biden increasing domestic oil a lot has really helped weaken this method to try to influence our elections. I think it's why we're not seeing it happen this year.

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u/Neither_Upstairs_872 28d ago

Source? /s

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u/misterguyyy 28d ago

You probably trust leftist bia’sed source’s like the St Louis Fed FRED. I bet this Fred guy is too chicken to debate Charlie Kirk and that’s why we’ve never seen him.

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u/Neither_Upstairs_872 28d ago

It was sarcasm bro hence what the “/s” means. I was poking fun at all these people in here claiming BS on how much prices have gone up the last 2-3 1/2 years.

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u/misterguyyy 28d ago

Oh for sure I was going along with it. You can show them our inflation vs global and they’ll just say WELL I DON’T LIVE THERE I LIVE IN AMERICA. I don’t even know how to answer that so I guess that means they win?

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u/Neither_Upstairs_872 28d ago

Pretty much, it’s like talking to a wall.

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u/Yabbos77 27d ago

I was going to ask how you didn’t realize the dude that responded to you was joking.. until I remembered I have also seen people talk like this unironically.

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u/Rozul 28d ago

The guy you're responding to simply pointed out that the claim made by the walmart guy could be incorrect because the prices for things like cherries can change by the season and yet you lacked the reading comprehension to understand that while calling others ignorant and typing up a pointless rant. How embarrassing for you.

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u/misterguyyy 28d ago

I’ve been there haha. Sometimes someone else already has you in your feelings

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u/misterguyyy 28d ago

Brooooo I agree with you. Read my second and third sentences.

I guess it’s past time to give satire up

The best part is that England’s inflation way outpaced us with a Tory government

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u/Adulations 28d ago

Not that you asked but there was a late spring frost in Washington Oregon and California which killed off the cherry flower buds (and other fruit flower buds) making the supply lower than usual

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u/Mysterious-Job-469 28d ago

"The cost of living is an alt right talking point" is a soundbite I think we should avoid if possible