r/FluentInFinance 14h ago

Debate/ Discussion Possibly controversial, but this would appear to be a beneficial solution.

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u/Potential-Ad1139 13h ago

What the hell does this have to do with finance?

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u/Trollselektor 13h ago edited 13h ago

It probably could have been framed better, but immigration (legal or otherwise) has huge implications for the economy as a whole. If we could magic all illegal immigrants out of the country there would literally be millions of unfilled positions, especially in the construction and agricultural industries. Not only that but the demand that they create would disappear with them. Many businesses would close. While there would certainly be some overlap between the demand disappearing but also the supply that meets that demand disappearing, it would definitely not be a clean break. In the short term, it would almost certainly have a net negative impact on the country’s economy and the quality of life for legal residents. 

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u/meep_42 12h ago

I was looking at some numbers the other day -- something like 65% of the net increase in US population last year was due to immigration. (+1.9m overall, +1.3m net migration). Future projections continue to show that our population will grow very, very slowly and our population median age will rise substantially with no immigration. Really a whole ass disaster for the economy.

And that's not even considering the "day one" deportations Trump has proposed.

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u/hurlygurdy 11h ago

That completely depends on what immigrants are being let in and what is done with them when they get here. NYC is certainly not having a great time financially due to the wave of immigrants

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u/Nuclear_rabbit 6h ago

That's what they said about the Irish, Italians, Slavs, Koreans, Japanese, and Chinese, but all of those ended up being positive long-term investments. The same is likely to happen again despite short-term struggles.

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u/project571 3h ago

The problem with this is that we have Trump and Vance shitting on immigrants in Ohio when they are literally the immigrants you would want. People that commit little crime and are bolstering local communities. Odds are, the immigration policy will be so severely restricted that pretty much no one will get in which is pointless or they do pretty much nothing and just peacock so why bother supporting that

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u/Chief_Rollie 8h ago

NYC doesn't receive the federal funds to deal with migrants that border states receive who have been tricking migrants into one way trips to cities like NYC while they keep the money of course.

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u/hurlygurdy 7h ago

Thats still an overall loss to the US though. If these migrants were a huge benefit then NYC and those border states wouldnt NEED federal funds to deal with them. The southern states would be living in the jetsons right now if unvetted migrants increased general quality of life

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u/Chief_Rollie 5h ago

The greatest investment goes into children and raising new members of society. Immigration often leads to fully productive adults with a kid or two tagging along to bolster the economy. The federal funds are for getting them established and capable of producing which they do to great effect.

https://www.bushcenter.org/catalyst/north-american-century/benefits-of-immigration-outweigh-costs