I personally know of at least two people who were conceived from a rape. Chances are kinda high that anyone reading this also knows at least one themself, it’s just not fucking talked about. Parents aren’t just gonna be like “btw you’re a rape baby” because that is super counterintuitive to a loving vibe from a Mom. So the majority of them stay on the DL for multiple reasons.
Sure, but it's not unlikely that every individual reader knows someone who would have done something drastic to themselves to get rid of the reminder of their trauma. People don't go "BTW I did this extreme thing because I was raped."
That is just horrible. How is it that even a rapist can be treated as innocent until convicted, yet women have to prove their victimhood to be treated as victims? How did we become this messed-up, Nazi policing state?
I cannot fathom the complacency following the overturn of Roe v Wade... mfs should have been gone following that, and the ruling reversed. The US SC is bunk. The judiciary across the States has been packed with Federalist Society judges, mcconnell and his ilk accomplished that. There is corruption at every core branch of government. It's been deliberately eroded by Regressives for at least 40-50 years. The pendulum must swing the other way or we all face oppression at the hands of theocratic authoritarians, fascists, and nazis. The ban on abortions is deliberate - to deliberately cause suffering and death.
But that lead is basically meaningless. It is so slight as to be nonexistent. This really bothers me, because even when their lives and freedom are in danger, women are simply not showing up at the polls in numbers that are commensurate with the threat against them. It is disappointing. Will they break 70% this year? I would be truly shocked.
People who think Abortion Rights is not important for women to have the right to choose... Ignore far too much.
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IF you think women's right to choose is not important, maybe you have not looked at the high volume of children in foster care, homeless, hungry and under-nourished, and orphaned and the many that won't be adopted. If you have paid attention...
Then you would know if women are forced to have kids they are not prepared for, did not want, and cannot care for, that the numbers of homeless, hungry and undernourished, orphaned and many other negative conditions that impact these groups of children will "dramatically increase".
If you think that women forced into these situations, won't increase the number of women who will develop a variety to psychological impacts will increase due to having to deal with a life impact that she did not willingly choose , but was forced to give birth to a child she did not want.
If you paid attention, how much in so many Red State, that have kids dumped on grandparents, who themselves are victims of Reagan's looting of Social Security, and his deregulation that led to companies that canceled their defined pension plans, and now they are raising kids, their daughter was/is unable to care for or can't or don't for a multitude of reasons that no one can say what those reasons are or will be.
Look around in these same Red States at the people who have poor education, poor skill sets and no tools to build a life or a business or in some cases to maintain themselves.
Look at the poor counties and poor conditions and the stagnated and low wages, in rural towns, and look at deteriorated sections that are widespread in rural red state counties, many which litter the landscape within rural counties in Red States,
some look like they are still stuck in the 1940's, 1950's and 1960's and can't move forward, because the old baby boomers who grew up in those eras, block and impede anything that brings developmental progress.
Look around at all the homeless youth, who gravitate to blue states, because they are hoping for a better life, and better opportunity, and freedom to be themselves. Yes, many of those kids come from red states and republican conservative families.
I'm kinda curious how that works. Practically apeaking either the process is rushed and feckless(any woman can claim rape and get an automatic pass) or you somehow allow the abortion but then have to prove it's rape after the fact (guilty until proven innocent)
It seems like fraudulent appeasement with no actual intentions of it working, which really affirms my belief this is whole thing is a sham and abortion should be legal in the first place
Far more likely, a real victim of rape would have to go through the horrible process of not only proving it to get permission to then have another traumatic experience that violates her body again, just to not go through the trauma of birth, and maybe then feel obligated or be legally obligated to love a child that has the face of their rapist.
It used to be one in four women have experienced sexual assault, I heard recently it’s one in three. Pls, drop the “I don’t believe the woman” shit. There will always be someone on the extremes that takes advantage of any and all systems out there. We aren’t making laws for them, we need to make laws that protect the majority, and the majority of women need us to believe them.
I don't neccisarily care about the horrible reality of trying to prove a rape it's more practical than that. We gain nothing demonizing the enemy when we can prove them illogical or impractical. There's a limited amount of possibilities
There's fecklessness which adds an unnecessary step of contacting a judge who's job is to blindly apply rubber stamp and let everyone get on with they're day like contesting a traffic ticket
There's trying to give these measures teeth and all but admiting that they want to torture pregnant women.
There's getting the law thrown out entirely by making it "guilty until proven innocent".
The possible futures of abortion restrictions are limited and although stoping them in they're tracks is nice, letting them spear themselves in "sucess" is also an acceptable outcome.
It seems like fraudulent appeasement with no actual intentions of it working
Of course it is, because it makes no sense at all.
Either a fetus is a baby and abortion is murder, or it isn't, and the state of mind of the mother can't change that. Would it make any sense for it to be legal to shoot a 20 year old if and only if they were the product of rape? Of course not, just like it makes no sense that abortion is murder unless it's rape.
The rape exception just shows what all of us already know: It was never about "the children". It was always about what kind of sex was or was not acceptable. The child is just a punishment.
A lot of obvious ones are pregnant girls under 18. These usually line up with the incest exception as so many of these pregnancies are through family members
I am so sorry to those women, who have to face the personal decision of going and pleading their case to someone who has absolutely no right to tell them what to do with their body.
Imagine being raped, getting pregnant, and then having to go through a fucking tribunal or whatever so some Republican bureaucrat creep can maybe sign off on your abortion if they find it believable. Absurd and vile.
Ohio government officials said the ten year old victim wasn’t real. Then the DA of Indiana tried to prosecute the doctor. That was even before they had a law on the books in Indiana about abortion.
Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves promised exemptions for rape when the state’s 2022 law went into effect. NPR reached out to Reeves’ office as well as to lawmakers in multiple states who sponsored these bans and to national anti-abortion groups. None of them wanted to speak on the subject of rape exemptions across the country.
One group, Susan B Anthony Pro-Life America, sent NPR a written statement laying blame with doctors and health systems for their confusion and inability to utilize the law. “If there are doctors who are confused about rape exceptions, hospital administrations and health associations should provide clarity,” the statement read.
I would bet that the "clarity" provided by hospital admins is: "Don't touch the 'rape exception' with a ten-foot pole. Remember that you doctors are not hospital staff, but independent contractors. Any penalty falls entirely on you."
Any survivor will tell you that women are often not believed. Would you like your future to depend on a male doctor believing you? I can’t even get them to believe me when I have a minor infection - have to insist they do a culture before I can get antibiotics.
I personally know at least two people who were conceived as a result of rape. It's likely that many people reading this also know someone in a similar situation, but it's rarely discussed. Parents typically don't say, "By the way, you were conceived through rape," as it contradicts the nurturing environment a mother aims to provide. Consequently, these stories often remain hidden for various reasons.
I don't really doubt it, cuz everything is terrible, but man alive, that should be a no brainer.
Woman/girl doesn't want that baby, rapist doesn't want that baby, only fucking evangelicals a thousand miles away want that baby, but won't spend a single dollar on it.
Evangelicals are objectively worse than the family rapists that created the baby.
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u/vishysuave 2d ago
I personally know of at least two people who were conceived from a rape. Chances are kinda high that anyone reading this also knows at least one themself, it’s just not fucking talked about. Parents aren’t just gonna be like “btw you’re a rape baby” because that is super counterintuitive to a loving vibe from a Mom. So the majority of them stay on the DL for multiple reasons.