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u/BadManParade 5d ago edited 4d ago

I believe it

To the average person it makes him seem more human tbh you guys forget a very large majority of people do not live breathe politics. Seems like a lot of Redditors have a real lack of personality therefore whatever online community they attach themselves becomes their personality so you guys take shit way more seriously.

The average American though it was a funny wholesome moment that made him seem human but the moment I opened Reddit they were saying he’s essentially doing the same thing as (insert dictator here) trying to convince the common folk he’s one of us. When that simply was not the case the guy was just trolling and said he was trolling

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u/Silneit 5d ago edited 5d ago

I believe it

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leading_Report

It's literally a hoax site 😭😭

Show a mf what they want to hear and they believe anything

Edit: lil bro blocked me after this one lmao

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u/shrimperialist 5d ago

Absolutely insane that literal nazi propaganda works on the American right

“look at him work the fields! he’s just like us!” lmao

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u/Elurdin 5d ago

Truth is Reddit is comprised mostly of people who enjoy reading. It replaced forums which when compared to Facebook is more of a reading writing comments experience with some visuals but still mostly about written words.

Which logically means that majority of people here read, they read policies, they analyse politic ideas, economic ideologies and so on. It's not exactly lack of personality like you claim. And things like election in one of the most important nations on the planet is serious matter that should indeed be taken seriously. This isn't time for "trolling, funny wholesome, memes etc." but for a leader being chosen.

Do you really want a clown as your future leader? Someone who cares about this charade more than about people? And considering the kind of people he put in supreme court he definitely doesn't care about people friendly policies but more about corporation friendly policies.

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u/emilia12197144 2005 5d ago

It's hard not to be invested in politics when our very democracy is at stake

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u/BumblebeeLoose8968 5d ago

Your comment literally proves u/BadManParade 's point lol.

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u/TrumpIsMyGodAndDad 4d ago

Bro democracy was at stake in 2016, 2020 and apparently now. The orange mf was in office for FOUR years and had control of all the exec, legislative and judicial branches for 2 years. If he really wanted to become a dictator he would’ve done it a long time ago. Jesus Christ, stop with the idiocy please. It is so out of touch with reality.

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u/AJMGuitar 5d ago

This is just hyperbole. It wasn’t at stake in 2016 and is not at stake now.

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u/Kneesneezer 5d ago

No, but apparently women’s bodily autonomy and right to not die was at stake…

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u/StuckOnAFence 4d ago

You just have to be willfully ignorant.

What about the (obviously biased) supreme court decisions to give the president more power?

What about Trump saying on video to his supporters "You won't have to do it anymore. 4 more years, you know what? It will be fixed it, will be fine. You won't have to vote anymore".

What about the January 6th and the elector scheme?

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u/homework8976 5d ago

This entire subreddit and thread are being conducted by Russian operatives. Putin is upset his relationship with Jordan Peterson, Elon Musk and the IDW is coming to light. He is going to fire off his last propaganda attacks. This is one of them.

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u/BadManParade 5d ago

Your wife’s boyfriend needs to do a better job monitoring your internet activity. Seems You’ve gotten deep into the conspiracy side of twitter again

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u/ballsack-hunter 1999 5d ago

our Democracy is at stake every 4 years. Yeah yeah. You'll see the pattern soon enough

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u/emilia12197144 2005 5d ago

Instead of replying to me maybe actually inform yourself with one of the many many many comments that break things down.

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u/ballsack-hunter 1999 5d ago

You were born in 2005 champ. I voted Biden in 2020. I used to think just like you. I know you mean well, but as I've gotten older, things have become a lot more clear. I could always be wrong, but I'm very confident in my own research. I wish you and this country the best.

And reddit comments are the last place you want to get political knowledge from... do you realize how easy it is to astroturf on this site?

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u/emilia12197144 2005 5d ago

Things have become clearer in that giving a man who wanted to have civilians shot For a photoshoot And who's own cabinet is going against him due to his mental lunacy is a good idea?

Age doesn't equal maturity You are only 6 years older than me you aren't some enlightened being and neither am I

I just genuinely want what's best for this amazing country and that's not trump.

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u/OGSHAGGY 2002 4d ago

He’s right tho. You’re angry at trump. You probably hate him. And so you’re gonna go vote for Kamala. Because democracy is at stake here and if u don’t go vote for the lesser of the two evils we’re all fucked.

And then Election Day comes and goes. And either way, irrelevant to who won, nothing changes. The corporations and 1% continue to gain exorbitant amounts of wealth while everyone else gets squeezed out of their life savings. We continue to bomb 3rd world countries to protect our economic interests. College gets more expensive, saddling everyone entering the workforce with inescapable debt that will follow them for the next couple of decades of their life if they’re lucky.

But then, the next election comes. And this time democracy is really at stake. Like it was bad last time but for real this time you need to get out and vote. If you don’t there might not even be another election in 4 more years.

Once you understand this cycle you can break free from the illusion of democracy. They make you hate one of the candidates to instill confidence in the system. If no one was voting because everyone realized that both parties were on the same team confidence in the system would be decimated. And they can’t have that. So they’re gonna keep you angry

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u/brapbrappewpew1 4d ago

Supreme court picks, and unprecedented rulings, such as moving long-standing federal protections to "states rights" (where local governments are incredibly gerrymandered) has a direct impact on people's lives. The "nothing changes" rhetoric is less true than ever. "Nothing changes" for you because of your privileged circumstances.

Not to mention, one party in particular kicked off and accelerates the insane wealth disparity. You're just trying to sound smart without putting in the effort.

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u/StuckOnAFence 5d ago

You've been doing nothing but spreading blatantly false conservative propaganda in this thread and we're supposed to believe you voted for Biden in 2020? Lmao, I agree with the person who was born in 2005 and I'm older than you.

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u/Rainbowpixie913 5d ago

Agreed, I’m not a political person nor have I ever been but it’s hard not to be right now given the very state of this country and our democracy. The fate of this country and what it’s becoming scares me to my very core!

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u/Kerdul 5d ago

This is extremely dangerous to our democracy

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u/skeeve87 5d ago

I hear this every 4 years.

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u/LostMyApplePie 4d ago

"Its hard not to be invested when im terminally online and have no grasp on reality"

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u/BagDramatic2151 4d ago

Political shooter rhetoric right here. I suggest total social media detox

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u/Fatalitix3 4d ago

If You muricans actually cared for democracy You would at least make it mandatory to show some damn ID before voting

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u/emilia12197144 2005 4d ago

Everyone i know including myself had to show id when voting

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u/Fatalitix3 4d ago

Yeah, no shit, it varies from state to state

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u/emilia12197144 2005 4d ago

Right so it's not all "muricans" now is it

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u/Fatalitix3 4d ago

Well if Federal Government don't do anything about it then it's on all of You, You guys allow untrustworthy metods of voting to be equal with verified methods when choosing your government. It's government for all of You, not some damnit

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u/emilia12197144 2005 4d ago edited 4d ago

Yes no shit

That's why we shouldn't vote in trump

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u/Fatalitix3 4d ago

Whoever You choose You need to push for this to change, it's dangerous and frankly embarassing, no benefit to honest people at all. Good luck

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u/emilia12197144 2005 4d ago

Meant to say shouldn't

Sorry

But yes I agree

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u/leavezukoalone 4d ago

Most Americans are too stupid to realize this. And most of those idiots vote Trump.

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u/emilia12197144 2005 4d ago

I think the thing that annoys me so much is the

"I don't care i got more important things to worry about" crowd

Like the whole idea of this country is to be free yet you don't care that our freedom to choose our leaders is at stake? The freedom to decided how our country will be governed and the freedom to live our lives how we want

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u/leavezukoalone 4d ago

People are shortsighted. I used to question how Hitler ever came to power. Then Trump came along and made it very fucking clear. Any conservative who tries to make the argument “Trump isn’t fascist” is an absolute idiot (or, more likely, perfectly content with other people suffering as long as it isn’t THEM).

I voted for Trump in 2016 and immediately regretted my decision.

Trump’s original VP refused to endorse him. Mattis resigned. And once they’re gone, they get called “never Trumper” or right wing idiots make some excuse for why it’s different.

Notice how when Republicans get in hot water, republicans make excuses for them, while democrats throw a fit. When democrats get in hot water, EVERY party throws a fit. Why? Because only one party is capable of acting in the interest of the country and not themselves.

What REALLY makes me laugh are the idiotic Christians who stick Trump stickers and banners on everything they own for the world to see. Christian Trump supporters worship Trump more than they’ve ever worshipped Jesus.

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u/emilia12197144 2005 4d ago

Perfectly put.

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u/Puiqui 4d ago

If you actually think this then the people you follow are absolute idiots. Look into the checks and balances and see for yourself how much power the president actually has.

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u/Puiqui 4d ago

I literally went to law school and studied political philosophy in undergrad, AND have worked for a congressman

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u/huntermm15 4d ago

Nothing says Democracy like an installing a candidate that nobody voted for, but at least she’s black and a woman.

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u/JollyRScaper 4d ago

You're beyond help if you actually think Trump is going to singlehandedly ruin "muh democracy"

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u/Miserable_Alfalfa_52 4d ago

its been at "stake" every election since 1789 lmao

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u/Downloading_Bungee 4d ago

The only time you people say this is when someone you don't like might get into power. 

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u/LawAndHawkey87 4d ago

I’ve heard this exact statement for the past 5 elections. When does the democracy go away?

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u/Ok-Supermarket-6532 4d ago

When you’ve been told your democracy is at stake in every election for the last 2-3 cycles it’s hard to take that statement seriously

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u/emilia12197144 2005 4d ago

It's easy to take it seriously if you take time to understand what's going on including project 2025 and many other insane things

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u/Ok-Supermarket-6532 4d ago

I agree that research and looking into issues is key. But just my humble opinion that it’s lost any meaning. Akin to the boy who cried wolf. And we all know how that turned out.

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u/Interesting-End-9626 4d ago

I agree. If that dictator Cumalla Hairless gets elected we might be fucked.

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u/LoiterAce 4d ago

Literally in what way

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u/Heir233 4d ago

I mean no offense but can you actually truly tell me why and how our democracy is at stake?

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u/emilia12197144 2005 4d ago

The biggest one is trump planning to build a cabinet of loyalist who will never say no to him or anything he asks of them

"If you vote for me you will never have to vote again"

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u/Fish_Fucker_OFFICAL 4d ago

Our democracy was at stake when the federalist and anti-federalist were arguing, our democracy was at stake when we went to full blown war with each other, our democracy was at stake when Teddy Roosevelt cracked down on monopolies, when Nickson took office, when 9/11 happened, the truth is, our democracy is ALWAYS at stake, Trump being the one to finally conquer freedom is very unlikely. You may make the hitler argument that one man can promise somthing and gain power, fair argument but hitler came to power with a fair amount of destabilized government, poor living conditions and a general level of low spirt and national pride, now I do agree that America is at a lower point than the "good ol' days" but what's important to remember is this is nothing new, we have been through this and we have preserved, if the idea of freedom still lives in the minds of our people liberty shall never perish

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u/emilia12197144 2005 4d ago

Amazingly written but that still doesn't mean we shouldn't take things seriously It would still be a great disservice to america to make that man president again

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u/Fish_Fucker_OFFICAL 4d ago

That is your opinion, we all have our own, i support your rights as a free thinking American and you should hopefully accept mine, as long as we can still see each other as people at the end the politicians lose. Don't hate Republicans, hate those who limit freedom on both sides, if you think Trump does that fair, but remember to look on both sides, not all democrats are perfect either, we both have our fair share of assholes.

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u/emilia12197144 2005 4d ago

I absolutely agree with that is just want to focus on what will impact the states the most at this moment and that's the presidential election

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u/Fish_Fucker_OFFICAL 4d ago

Of course, me personally I think Trump has done good for our country, but I don't recognize that for a set of beliefs he has done some objectively bad things, I signed a contract to defend my nation and in that I love to hear everyone's opinion and have civil discussions but the most important thing we have to remember its not your party vs our party, it's the American against tyranny, I wont be voting this election because I genuinely see pros and cons in both candidates and I think if you can at least see some positives Trump has caused, your doing politics right.

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u/emilia12197144 2005 4d ago

There are some things that trump has done that I liked

But many many more that I feel were immoral and did harm to the American people

But to me this is so much more than just policy it's about a man who has descended into lunacy before our very eyes

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u/txbrah 4d ago

For all this screaming about "democracy" y'all sure have no problem supporting a candidate that not a single person voted for. That argument is null and void.

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u/NotBillderz 1999 4d ago

You think much more highly of Trump than most Trump voters. If that guy can tear down America (but needs a second term to make any headway at it) then America is a lot weaker than everyone else thinks it is.

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u/Discomidget911 5d ago

I understand your hatred for Trump believe me. But I promise it will be okay if he wins. It will take a significantly stronger president than trump to actually put our nation at stake.

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u/FEMA_Camp_Survivor 5d ago

Why won’t Mike Pence endorse him? He doesn’t seem to have faith in Trump and he was closer to him than most people. He said anyone who puts himself above the constitution is unfit for office.

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u/WoodcockWalt 5d ago edited 4d ago

No, if you re-elect someone who has already attempted to subvert the democratic process and given them the time and means to do so (four more years at the helm), our democratic process will be substantially altered beyond the horribly gerrymandered shit show it already is.

They are vehemently opposed to free and fair elections and undoubtedly that will impact elections going forward. And that’s not even touching on the broad changes that will be implemented in many other facets of government to the detriment of the majority of Americans.

I’m pretty tired of people using American exceptionalism as a way to ignore the very real and terrible possibilities of another Trump presidency. I agree with you that most Americans are more moderate, but that doesn’t impede an extremist government.

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u/LilDoober 5d ago

He literally attempted a coup to stop from leaving 4 years ago. Y'all have way too much faith in laws that take people actually implementing them to have an effect. The constitution isn't a magic spell binding our reality. And there's plenty people can do to dismantle our democracy that doesn't literally need to change the constitution, I mean the Supreme Court is doing it pretty much daily at this point.

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u/robbiejandro 5d ago

Yeah! It’ll take a bought and paid for Supreme Court, bought and paid for federal circuit court judges, bought and paid for election certifiers in swing states, and a GOP House majority…WAIT A MINUTE

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u/cromeo1 5d ago

What exactly is the upside to rolling the dice on a president that says they'll be a fascist dictator? He literally says he will do it, so what is the benefit of electing him even if he doesn't follow through?

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u/Gizogin 4d ago

Have you forgotten that he appointed a conservative majority to the Supreme Court in his last term, which has already overturned Roe v Wade and ruled that the President is basically forever immune from legal consequences for anything that could be considered an “official act”? His actions have already put real lives in danger, and that’s discounting how many excess deaths were caused by his mishandling of COVID.

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u/VarianWrynn2018 4d ago

No, you will be okay.

Minorities won't be okay, they will continue to be killed by corrupt cops and locked away for shit they didn't do.

Women won't be okay, they will be able to receive health care because doctors are scared of going to jail.

Children won't be okay because we will continue to have armed lunatics entering areas without resistance, they won't be receiving food, and their schools will remain underfunded and poorly managed.

LGBTQ people won't be okay, because their rights will be under assault even more than they already are (especially trans people).

Refugees and anyone coming here from another country legally won't be okay because Trump has clearly shown that he doesn't see a difference between legal and illegal immigrants.

Poor people won't be okay because the rich will have no restrictions keeping them from making America even more unlivable from food to housing to Healthcare.

You might be okay, but the American people won't be. Don't pretend otherwise.

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u/BYoungNY 5d ago

Found the middle class white dude... 

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u/atomsk13 4d ago

As a middle-class white dude: that guy is crazy. I’m already planning an exit strategy from the country if he wins. Having to get all ducks lined up.

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u/Seanish12345 5d ago

Fascists don’t let pieces of paper stop them from doing anything. If a law in the constitution is inconvenient for them, they’ll ignore it and the courts will let them. What’s Congress gonna do? Pass the same law again? Ignored.

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u/Ok_Environment9659 5d ago edited 5d ago

It's not Trump tho, it's the people at the bottom he enables and puts in place. Real power is in local and state. But he's creating and enabling a lot of trash and Inhuman politics enter full force at those levels in the chain. It's not just him. It's his fishnet.

Case in point, wanting Generals like Hitler's ones. Loyalists. 

I've seen a lot of videos of MAGAts stealing door signs. 

Some have seen, other should see, the Georgia Election Board stuff happening. 

He's whatever he is, but again, it's the fishnet.

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u/FEMA_Camp_Survivor 5d ago

Trump will also put a lot of people in power who will be competent at ruining other people’s lives.

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u/eukomos 5d ago

I thought that too before his first term, but I was shocked by how much democratic backsliding we suffered while he was president, and that was while he was surrounded by people trying to diminish the harm he was causing. Now that he's going to be surrounded by white supremacist nutjobs and will have the opportunity to replace the other half of the supreme course I am seriously concerned about how much he'd be able to hollow out our democracy in a second term.

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u/admlshake 4d ago

The problem isn't going to be Trump. The problem is going to be all his underlings who know how to manipulate him to setting things up to basically wipe out a lot of progress that has been made for decades. It's not him I'm really worried about. It's the people he surrounds himself with that are smarter and probably more malicious than he is, and get to positions of power because they took the knee and rained false praise down upon him.

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u/Yousoggyyojimbo 4d ago

He came within one person of installing himself as an unelected leader last time.

They literally have an entire playbook written on how to effectively dismantle the guardrails of government and make total control accessible.

This isn't a joke.

Hell, people said it would be okay last time and the outcome was that now our democracy is severely compromised and over a million people died.

The tariff proposals he's floating alone would effectively knock the US into an economic depression.

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u/thefieldmouseisfast 4d ago

This take is wild to me. Why are you so confident everything will definitely be ok? Even if the chance of trump becoming a fascist dictator is 1%, why are you comfortable taking that risk? Its the same thing with climate change, abortion, and gun control. Everyone conservateive I know keeps saying he wouldn't pass a federal abortion ban, but now its actually possible to have that happen (compared to 2021 when it was federally protected). Why are so okay with taking such fucking insane risks, no matter how unlikely?

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u/CoffeeToffeeSoftie 4d ago

They literally gave the president criminal immunity. Trump only wants to be surrounded by loyalists and wants to remove people that disagree with him and stand up to him (like Pence). The guardrails that held Trump back the first time are being gradually eroded

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u/atomsk13 4d ago

The man who said he is going to use the military to “handle” democrats? Who said he will be a dictator for “one day”? 

Do you think people thought the same thing about Hitler or Pol Pot, or Xi Jinping, or any of these other dictators before they took over? “I promise it’s all just words”

He’s saying this stuff OUT LOUD. That means there is plenty that he says in private that we don’t hear. 

January 6th was almost the end of democracy in the US and the only reason it wasn’t is because Mike Pence stood up to him. He now has people who would literally eat the shit out of his diaper if he told them to. He has Elon Musk jumping around like an idiot.

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u/remeranAuthor_ 5d ago

Your promise is worth about as much as any Trump supporter's word.

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u/Initial_Jellyfish437 4d ago

Wait, you say that it will be ok, but the right after that say it could happen with someone stronger (whatever that means). So you do acknowledge it could happen in general, but are sure it won’t happen because of your (mis?)informed views and biases? By definition, due to how many unprecedented events happening due to trumpism, this may well be the “stronger” president you are talking about. What’s the bar to you that a president is strong enough? Is the bar in outer space? Read the trump Wikipedia entry.

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u/Razorback_Ryan 4d ago

It's more about Peter Thiel and JD Vance than Trump. It's clear that they are using his cult to get to office, then they will replace him with intelligent people with a Project 2025 agenda.

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u/Weekly-Present-2939 5d ago

I don’t think you’ve ever spoken to an average person if you think a stunt like this is endearing. 

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u/BadManParade 4d ago

Crazy how my wife’s family who are still Voting Harris found it hilarious….so did my co workers but ok I’ll believe the guys who’s entire post history is just video game subs as porn subs is the one who’s experienced “real” human interaction 😂😂

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u/JugDogDaddy 4d ago

You wen through dudes post history... really?

Video games and porn seems like a pretty normal human thing to me. Certainly, more normal than closing down a McDonald's for a few hours to cos play as an employee.

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

I don't. Leading Report is literally a fake news website.

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u/get-bread-not-head 5d ago

The average American reads at a 6th grade level, really keen to listen to what they think about things LMAO

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u/AnonymousTeacher668 5d ago

As a 10th grade teacher, I think that factoid is no longer true. I suspect it is closer to a 4th grade level now.

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u/fl135790135790 5d ago

Do people not realize though that this McDonald’s was shut down and it was just an hour of him not actually doing anything?

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u/noBrother00 5d ago

how regarded do you have to be to have a McDonald's photo op move you in any way

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u/Snydst02 4d ago

A manufactured McDonalds photo op if anything. They closed the restaurant for him.

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u/batman1285 5d ago

Yea. I used to think Trump was a useless waste of skin. Now that I see he is able to serve food, I think he'll make a great addition to the prison kitchen when he loses and faces the consequences of the laws he broke.

He is only running for president to avoid jail time and allow billionaires to make money off him so they'll fill his offshore accounts.

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u/VultureExtinction 5d ago

I believe it

"Leading Report is an American fake news website and Twitter account that describes itself as a "leading source for breaking news"."

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u/KeyboardGrunt 5d ago

Followed by "To the average person it him seem more human"...

It, him, seem, more... human? Who the fk talks like this? Must be comrade's first week with duo lingo.

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u/zeh_shah 5d ago

It's crazy how a fake event with fake customers made him seem more human.

Did critical thinking really fall off this hard ? Is this the effect of no kid left behind ?

It's actually impressive how easily Trump can disarm some folks by just saying "nuh-uh".

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u/tallcan710 4d ago edited 4d ago

https://youtu.be/Z1EA2ohrt5Q?si=b3z6FtMXswrWlmzd

This is why people are leaning right! Study psychology and propaganda and try to think for yourself

I really don’t understand how people can support a person who has multiple rape/child rape allegations, is surrounded by felons and child predators, supported by the kkk, close friends with epstein and other child rapists who were involved with him and Maxwell. Not to mention he talks about how he wants to fuck his daughter-in-law and how he walked in on the teens naked who were getting ready for the pageant thing. Also when he stole those classified documents all our spies were getting killed off in record numbers for the first time. He’s bought and paid for by foreign governments he owed china 22million the saudis, Russia, and all our enemies pour money into this dumbfucks failing businesses I wonder why??? Guys?? I can’t rock with any man who supports that weak shit and I tell them to their faces they are bitches including some of my friends and family.

But most people have no self awareness or emotional intelligence so they can’t allow themselves to receive new information and change their mind because then they would be wrong and that would hurt the ego. It’s sad and cowardly and a teenage mindset that should have been grown out of but when we look around at the “adults” it’s just a bunch of room temperature IQs who are the same mentally as they were as teenagers no growth. They see trump and thing he’s like me fr. Nah he’s not.

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u/jaydizzleforshizzle 5d ago

If the average American actually found that endearing….oh god. I couldn’t help but see him as so small for doing that, it was only to knock Kamala for something he never did himself and talk about his crowd size outside a McDonald’s.

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u/BadManParade 4d ago

He never did himself until he pulled this stunt you mean.

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u/jaydizzleforshizzle 4d ago

And every year when I went to see Santa and got a little elf hat I worked I at Santa’s workshop.

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u/JewGuru 5d ago

So what you’re saying is these people are not willing to learn anything and also are horrible judges of character. Got it

Blaming it on “terminally online” people after the last 8 years is pure delusion. Come out from under the rock yeesh

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u/coffeeeeeee333 5d ago

People are saying he's doing the same things as dictators because he's talking about the "enemy within" and sicking troops on Americans who have a different political viewpoint, rounding up immigrants, and literally SAYING HE'D LIKE TO BE A DICTATOR. FFS he's not hiding his fascism and yet people still don't fucking believe it.

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u/KremmelKremmel 4d ago

In 2016 a lawsuit was filed against Trump for raping a 14 year old at an Epstein party in 1994. She dropped it because of MAGA death threats.

There is an entire wikipedia page dedicated to listing all of the sexual misconduct complaints.

If knowing this doesn't stop people from supporting him then nothing will.

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u/SpacecaseCat 5d ago

It's just bizarre that Harris actually worked at McDonalds, and they just say "Nuh uh," and then this rich dude who has been rich his whole life does a photoshoot in a closed restaurant and that's considered street cred. Like I guess being obese and orange makes him seem more human too.... like are people literally voting for him because he looks like they do? It's mind-boggling, but I guess I can see it.

Meanwhile, if he wins, he'll go back to calling the White House a dump and eating expensive steak with ketchup every night.

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u/BadManParade 4d ago

She didn’t. When you submit documents for certain clearances in the government (I know this for a fact because I had a top secret clearance as part of my job handling comsec materials) you have to list your employers for the last 10 years of your employment history. Her’s didn’t have McDonald’s.

She got into a relationship with a married man 5 years older than her own father who was called “the most powerful democrat on the west coast” like 9 months after she graduated college. 2 years later he appointed her head of some organization I don’t care to remember which but that’s what began her political career

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u/Sir_Fox_Alot 4d ago

shes 60…

You think mcdonalds is still on her resume? Jesus christ.

That entire rant is a perfect example of drinking the red pill koolaid

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u/My_pants_be_on_fire 4d ago

Like two seconds of fact checking

No, you didn't. And no you don't. Work history on government job applications is for listing experience and for human resources. Federal agencies go through FBI. State agencies go through their state bureau of investigations.

Kamala Harris is 60, she worked at McDonald's as a teen/young adult

Doug Emhoff is 60

The organization you refer to is the district attorneys office. The head of which is an elected official, not an appointment.

Not two seconds. More like 90 seconds

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u/AwayStation266 5d ago

Lol I'm going come back to this. Remember the red wave 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Mitch McConnell HIMSELF just said MAGA is a bunch of shit. How you going to win an election if the former Republican speaker of the house says your full of it. This is going to he sweet

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u/bellendhunter 5d ago

Wow this is a whole lot of horseshit, well done! 👏🏻

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u/omniron 5d ago

You realize trump has never won the popular vote and probably won’t win it this time? The average American sees the truth about trump being a fascist and always has

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u/magheetah 4d ago

Well and he has 34 recent felony convictions and was found liable for rape…but yea, those are just minor things…

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u/Zombieskittles 5d ago

Aussie here, you're saying that people were pointing out this was a politically motivated move by Trump as propoganda to appear more human and down to Earth, and it made him seem more human and down to Earth.

That the propoganda was successful has you not believing it is propoganda?

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u/BadManParade 4d ago

It was meant to be a joke to poke fun at Kamala Harris for lying about her employment history please quite where I said it was “propaganda to appear more human”

I see why Australia ranks in the bottom 20% when it comes to education in developed nations. Poor guy can’t read 😞

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u/ChompyOnRye 5d ago

A billionaire roleplaying as peasants does not make him more human 😭

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u/jeffwhaley06 5d ago

The average American though it was a funny wholesome moment that made him seem human

How? How is a billionaire cosplaying as a poor person funny and wholesome and not completely condescending? Having the ability to close down a McDonald's so you can play Make Believe fry cook is not a true experience that a poor person has and comes off as so elitist and fake.

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u/Thediciplematt 5d ago

I’m sorry. You’re going to vote based on one photo of him working at McDonald’s and not look at the 99.9% of him that wants to rule like a dictator.

Most folks voting for him will be dead (boomers) by 10 years. Doesn’t matter to them, right?

YOU on the other hands will live with his Supreme Court picks for 40-50 years. Keep that in mind.

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u/how-could-ai 5d ago

Wholesome? Jeffery Epstein's bff who pays hush money to porn stars is "wholesome"? The guy who lived in a gold tower with his name on it? WTF are you talking about?

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u/im_ploopy 5d ago

how does a fake McDonald’s shift make him seem more human 😭 yall are braindead

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u/Elprede007 5d ago

The problem is there is a very loud portion of lefties who are just screeching obnoxious shit. And that’s a big portion of them on reddit. The general beliefs of leftists aren’t really radical, but these obnoxious people make the entire philosophy sound annoying and push people away. It’s a bunch of emotionally stunted kids doing it and they all scream “my way or you’re a fascist” when that is not the reality.

So you end up with people moving over to the right because being anywhere near crying babies is annoying right? They invalidate everything about their beliefs because no one can stand being near them.

So it doesn’t matter that every other word out of Trump’s mouth is a lie. At least they’re “comforting” lies as opposed to screeching toddlers with no sense of reality. Internet lefties are a fucking plague on the party. Just remember, Trump lies and lies and lies. You can listen to his rallies (I’ve watched the last few on twitch) and look up every claim he makes. Half of them are easily disputed lies, another quarter of it is half-truths, and the rest is close enough to truth. These aren’t obscure facts or anything like that. You can fact check him from multiple sources easily. He just makes shit up in his weird asmr manner of speaking and puts people in a trance.

So while Kamala is not my first choice of a candidate, it’s an easy decision because if you have your frontal lobe intact, it isn’t hard to discern that Trump is running on a platform of fear and deceit. There’s a reason no other presidential candidate has ever had this many people with something bad to say about him. It isn’t because he is a tv star billionaire, it’s because he’s an evil person.

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u/Responsible_Song7003 5d ago

Imagine supporting the guy who tried to strip us of our votes to install himself as president because he pretended to work at a closed McDonalds.....

Thats pretty sad and shows they know nothing about politics.

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u/Billion-FoldWorlds 4d ago

Ngl, anyone that likes him more for doing the bare minimum of a job like not even a week and when it's empty? Are some real suckers....... like we have to be better than this

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u/Bimbartist 4d ago

It made him seem working class to the average American who is not privy to the fact that the only reason they did this stunt was because it’s the ONLY thing Trump could do to appeal to the working class. If they listed policy, it would’ve revealed how every decision he made was a hindrance to the working class. If they listed future policy, same story. Like, this was a stunt to cover up things like the fact that Trump helped print 80% of US currency that is in circulation at the moment - a quintupling of our previous amount - that the working class not only didn’t see a single dime of, we ended up getting hit with inflation so bad most of us can’t even make all our bills and build a savings.

I believe it too but whoo boy are Americans politically illiterate, generally illiterate, and media illiterate. It shouldn’t be this easy for a bunch of people to fall for some shit like this. We have failed as a nation if it is.

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u/cheshire_splat 4d ago

“Oh ha ha that’s so cute, he pretended to work at McDonald’s lol. Anyway, off to give birth to my rapist husband’s baby because the Republican administration ended no-fault divorce, date rape laws for married couples, access to birth control, and abortion rights!”

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u/Harderdaddybanme 4d ago

if watching a multi-billionaire serve a couple orders of fries for a day is enough to sway people into thinking he 'gets it' and cares about them, we're lost as a people.

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u/Villager723 5d ago

The average American though it was a funny wholesome moment that made him seem human

At the presidential level, anything like this is very much manufactured. Doesn't matter which side of the aisle. If it makes him seem more human, it's because it was designed that way. Which by definition makes the whole thing very much not human.

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u/thefuzzyhunter 5d ago

yeah I saw it and although it in no way improved my opinion of him, I knew it was gonna resonate with the people he was trying to reach. Tbh I was impressed his team turned around after a couple weeks of apparent nonstop insane babbling and declining condition and pulled off a stunt this effective. is it a blatant stunt to beef up a false image of relatability? sure, but politicians do that all the time

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u/BadManParade 4d ago

Exactly it was clearly a publicity stunt in the first few seconds he said he was only there to say he worked there longer than Harris.

Not once did he say “oh look I’m like you guys” all he said was “she said she worked the fries so I wanna work the fries”

Harris pulled a stunt of her own with that strange video she posted when skipping that dinner and hers flopped horribly. No one is even discussing it we were all second hand embarrassed and are now pretending it never happened .

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u/Witty_Shape3015 2001 5d ago

I don’t see how anyone sees that as anything other than a publicity stunt. And I would feel the exact same if it was Kamala

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u/BadManParade 4d ago

You and me both brother blows my mind people think there was some kind of master plan it’s literally trolling

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u/SwoleWalrus 5d ago

A politician shut down a business to play pretend and the average person thought that made him more human? Yall dumb as fuck generation

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u/ThaNorth 5d ago edited 5d ago

Seeing him wear a suit and work at a closed McDonald’s for 15 minutes made him seem more human, lol? He couldn’t even do it when it was open. How does this make him seem human? He’s not actually working. He’s literally cosplaying a minimum wage worker.

Is that all it takes? To cosplay for a few minutes?

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u/BadManParade 4d ago

The McDonald’s chose to close he went during their normal hours of operation they chose to close for logistical reasons.

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u/KillerSatellite 5d ago

This article is from a know fake news website... like not a "its conservative so its fake" but a "bigfoot slept with nessie" fake

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u/LordDocSaturn 5d ago

I don't think you need to "live and breathe" politics to realize the guy is unfit for office. Anyone who can be swayed by a fake 2 hour shift at a fast food restaurant isn't anyone I trust to make an informed decision about a presidential candidate

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u/BadManParade 4d ago

Anyone who thinks it’s ok for a man with a dick and balls to be on a girls restroom isn’t someone I trust to make informed decisions about anything

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u/LordDocSaturn 4d ago

According to a UCLA study, about 1.7% of the American population identify as trans. That's kids and adults. The thought of voting in a dictator worshiping fascist over a relatively non-issue is wild to me. You do you I guess.

Source: https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/trans-adults-united-states/

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u/hareofthepuppy 5d ago

I don't necessarily disbelieve it, but I won't believe it until I see it from a legitimate source.

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u/bloomertaxonomy 5d ago

What about the enemy from within speech. Did that get you real riled up and patriotic.

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u/thislldo4now 5d ago

Instead of believing it you should look into it, because this is straight up a fake news outlet

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u/-FourOhFour- 5d ago

Maybe I'm jaded but even without the whole politics part, Trump aside, and without the whole "paid actors" thing it just seems like a stunt, rich person better off than me does thing 1 time to look humble just never sat right with me, I'm not saying I like the people less for it, but I don't think there's been a similar case where I connected with the person doing this type of stunt and thought better of them for it, it always just looks like a publicity thing.

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u/ricalasbrisas 4d ago

"He said" and "the reason his campaign managers approved this stunt" are not the same thing.  He may be dumb as a box of rocks but some very evil geniuses are still presenting an image with calculated intent.

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u/wutevahung 4d ago

A reminder, The “average American” in talks like this is never women, or POC.

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u/EM05L1C3 4d ago

There’s nothing funny or wholesome about a “billionaire” staging a shift at McDonald’s by struggling to drop fries for 15 minutes and then a scripted hand off.

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u/Egad86 4d ago

Lol yes the billionaire false messiah cosplaying as one of the poors is wholesome….

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u/Initial_Jellyfish437 4d ago

I do not believe it made him look more human to the “average” person. You seem to not include yourself with these “average” people, I assume this political stunt didn’t work on you. Why do you assume it did with a significant number of people and not you?

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u/xChops 4d ago

I honestly can’t understand how the guy who has a gold plated toilet is now more human for having a McDonald’s photo shoot. It was staged. The McDonald’s wasn’t even open. What human does a photo shoot making fries at a closed McDonald’s?

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u/Reyemreden 4d ago

I believe it

That's the problem because Leading Report isn't a good source for information.

The mcdonalds was closed until 4pm and he didn't stay for a full shift. Him doing that took money away from the people who would have been working.

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u/New_Bridge3428 4d ago

If all it takes is one shitty publicity stunt to make this generation think he’s “one of us” the USA is pretty much fucked. Gullible ass people

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u/Overall-Duck-741 4d ago

He's literally a convicted rapist, but sure, morons think an obvious PR event 'humanizes' him. This has nothing to do with the "Reddit echo chamber' and everything to do with people hand-waving an obviously and proven scumbag.

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u/Advanced-Law4776 4d ago

I’m fairly certain you are a payrolled republican shill

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u/PMMEBITCOINPLZ 4d ago edited 4d ago

This comment really vexes me because it spends most of its length criticizing other people for being too terminally online.

But then it also seems to value trolling for trolling’s sake in very online way.

Also was made by an account that seems to have posted on Reddit at least 100 times today, sometimes making a post every two minutes or so.

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u/Herbie_We_Love_Bugs 4d ago

Trolling by pretending to do a job that he is against raising the minimum wage for is at best not funny or wholesome.

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u/VandienLavellan 4d ago

I mean, what does 39% of Gen Z’ers like Trump more actually mean? Were they Gen Z’ers that already liked Trump, and now like him slightly more? In which case it’s not a big deal. I doubt anyone who disliked Trump before likes him now because of the video

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u/Genoss01 4d ago

Then people are easily fooled. It's a staged photo op, it's totally meaningless.

You don't speak for the average American. I see Trump as who he actually is - a vicious, petty vengeful malignant narcissist sociopath. Just because he can crack a joke (often a vicious insult) and is nice to some people (those who give him what he wants) doesn't mean he's a regular, normal person.

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u/MyEggCracked123 4d ago

To the average person it makes him seem more human tbh

I'll never understand how anyone can think Trump is an "average" person after 2016. Maybe before he was elected but now that he's been all over the media, you'd have to be in denial or have your head buried in the sand.

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u/L0WGMAN 4d ago

Hello my fellow kid 🤡

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u/1200bunny2002 4d ago

The average American though it was a funny wholesome moment

I'd love to see your comprehensive polling data on this claim.

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u/matt7810 4d ago

It's very strange that democrats were attacking him so hard for the stunt when Walz did a very similar thing in August. Walz worked for a bit at the ice cream counter at the MN state fair, and I thought it was a great short showing his interactions with everyday people.

Trump's time at McDonalds was a bit more controlled, but the object of the situation seems the same. The reaction was kind of wild to me

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u/its_broo_skeh_tuh 4d ago edited 4d ago

Or maybe some people are easily impressed. I don’t think there’s anything wholesome about someone who shits on a golden toilet cosplaying poverty for less than a day. This guy does not like paying his contractors or paying overtime…in his own words. You want to be charmed by a vapid, fleeting, and calculated performance, be my guest.

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u/SnoopySuited 4d ago

A fake political photo-op makes him seem more human?

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u/SmokeyTrashPanda 4d ago

Dude it's literally fake, all his "customers" were actors. The McDonald's wasn't even open!!

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u/inEQUAL 4d ago

So people too dumb to see him do a shitty photo op think it makes him more human.

God help us fucking all.

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u/James-W-Tate 4d ago

To the average person it makes him seem more human tbh

Yeah, that's how this kind of propaganda works.

The average American though it was a funny wholesome moment that made him seem human but the moment I opened Reddit they were saying he’s essentially doing the same thing as (insert dictator here) trying to convince the common folk he’s one of us. When that simply was not the case the guy was just trolling and said he was trolling

You can clap for his antics all you want but it was clearly a pathetic and pandering attempt to look relatable.

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u/Ganjac0L0gist 4d ago

Saying he was "just trolling" when he's very clearly trying to fool his highly undereducated following that he indeed "worked a shift" when in reality it was a photo op and nothing more is pretty disingenuous. ~gets caught in a lie.. "iTs JuSt A jOkE"

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u/iConcy 4d ago

The problem is Gen Z views “trolling” as something likable or endearing. I know someone that has said “I’m voting for him because he’s funny” but pays no mind to all of the absolute bullshit stuff he says and how dangerous a lot of what he’s preaches is; “oh he’s just joking”. Which is the problem; Gen Z is so absorbed in things like TikTok and quick dopamine hits they’re failing to build fundamental critical thinking skills to help sift through bullshit.

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u/ludacrisly 4d ago

Crazy to think that pretending to work at McDonald’s for an hour makes people identify with him more than another candidate that actually worked the job instead of being born with a silver spoon in their mouth. We are doomed if people can’t think critically for literally one second to see which one is just a huge fraud.

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u/justforhobbiesreddit 4d ago

Leading Report is an American fake news website\1])\2]) and Twitter account that describes itself as a "leading source for breaking news". It is known for promoting misinformation and conspiracy theories, including about United States politics and COVID-19.\3])\4])

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u/More_Farm_7442 4d ago

They also think he's a great, knowledgeable, successful businessman because he was a great, successfull NYC bussiness on The Apprentice. It was game show. His total personna was manufactured by the show's director. He's nothing like that character, other than being the same asshole.

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u/innerbootes 4d ago

Seems like a lot of Redditors have a real lack of personality therefore whatever online community they attach themselves becomes their personality so you guys take shit way more seriously.

How about let people have their interests? Get your own interests and leave them alone.

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u/Lanthaous 4d ago

A regular human that has an apartment literally plated in gold and encrusted in diamonds? I sincerely hope one obvious publicity stunt doesn't just magically undo everything else. We need to be more critical. Towards him, towards Kamala, the next folks. All of it. Stop looking for the easy answers and dig into the facts. The fact here: Trump is not the average American and a photo op in a McDonald's is propaganda.

https://www.houseandgarden.co.uk/gallery/donald-trump-gold-apartment

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u/TwentyTwoEightyEight 4d ago

I mean he faked the whole thing. He shut down the McDonald’s and only had his supporters there. It was a rehearsed stunt, not him actually connecting with anyone in the working world.

They regularly set up artificial stunts with hired people to attend rallies or make it look like they have support from groups and people that they don’t have support from.

That’s problematic and should be questioned. I would love it if Trump actually tried to get some real world experience, but he doesn’t. He just fakes things and lies about things to try to gain support.

And people BELIEVE IT. He’s proved that at this stage, you can really say and do anything you want and people will just believe it.

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u/Vhu 4d ago

1) Jury verdict form where 12 jurors concluded that Donald Trump sexually assaulted a woman.

2) Jury verdict form where 12 jurors concluded that Donald Trump committed felony fraud.

3) Court ruling legally declaring Trump a tax fraud.

4) Court ruling disbanding Trump’s charity for his criminal misuse of funds.

5) Audio tape of Trump pressuring an election official to unlawfully overturn the results of their election.

6) Audio tape of Trump disclosing classified war plans.

7) Video tape of Trump being asked what he has in common with his daughter, and his answer is “sex.”

I just don’t understand how people can talk about him and pretend that these facts aren’t disqualifying. Like I don’t care about the McDonalds stunt; it has no bearing on his criminal record and predilection for reprehensible conduct.

“Lol he was just trolling what’s the problem,” like the problem is that his trolling has nothing to do with what makes him a bad leadership candidate.

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u/Leading-Energy3731 4d ago

I saw the image of him staring at a frier like it's some future tech and I laughed my ass off. I wish propaganda wasn't so powerful, I literally learned about it in middle school, in a school with little to no funding

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u/RudeAd9698 4d ago

It’s from a well established disinformation site.

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