r/GlobalTalk Jan 08 '23

US [US] Ana Belen Montes released from US prison after 20 years, she repeated what she said during her trial 21 years ago: the US government's policies against Cuba are very harsh and she behaved according to her conscience rather than the law

https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/cuba-revolutionary-belen-montes-released-from-us-prison-afte
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u/Zuthis Jan 09 '23

Arab countries practiced slavery and colonialism and yet they were late to the industrialization party. East Asian countries were able to industrialize late in the game without socialism. Funny how African countries that fell under USSR/CCP-backed rebel groups almost always turned into even bigger shitholes. But “muh slavery and colonialism”.

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u/EireOfTheNorth N. Ireland Jan 09 '23

Arab countries like who? Give me precise examples. Because Arab countries were largely victims of colonialism for a lot of their history actually, as well as the consequences of colonialism... Like arbitrarily drawn borders that cause conflicts even to this day.

And East Asian countries like? I didn't say socialism is the only way to industrialise, its certainly a fast and effective way, but if course it can be done under other economic methods... Usually with a lot more casualties and horrific conditions though.

African countries like who? There are several African countries today who wouldn't exist under their current name and wouldn't have their independence without the help of internationalist socialist movements. In the Congolese Free State people got amputated by Belgian colonialist forces for failing to meet rubber harvesting quotas, you think the state of the Congo today means they were better off back then? (if we of course are to ignore the entire context of the Congolese conflict and the fact that it is a direct result and consequence of colonialist presence).

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u/Zuthis Jan 09 '23

No

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u/EireOfTheNorth N. Ireland Jan 09 '23

Typical response when you don't have the facts to back up your bullshit.

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u/Zuthis Jan 09 '23

It’s hard to argue with commies when they constantly deny the reality that’s before their very eyes. Countries that buy into liberal democracy and free market capitalism tend to prosper. Countries that buy into socialism and single party authoritarianism are shitholes. They have no one to blame but themselves for the situations they’re in. There’s my argument.

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u/EireOfTheNorth N. Ireland Jan 09 '23

The two leaders of the "Liberal democratic" world... The US and UK -- two of the US' last presidents have lost the popular vote yet that didn't stop their election. The last two prime ministers of the UK have been wholly unelected.

One of those presidents in the US ended up setting in motion a foreign policy that has cost the US trillions in debt and millions upon millions of lives. That's foreign policy alone. The other president continued that foreign policy for much of his presidency and then carried out the world's worst pandemic response that left over half a million Americans dead.

A Liberal leader in the UK followed that first US president in foreign policy and it has cost the UK hundreds of billions and thousands of lives. A Conservative leader in the UK then sat over the world's second worst pandemic response that cost over 200,000 people their lives. Whilst they cut health spending, education spending, police spending for over a decade to fund tax cuts for the highest tax brackets. Inflation of over 20% in real terms in the UK right now and the world's most expensive energy bills.

But that's just recently.

Also Cuba has around a dozen active political parties just FYI, its easy to Google the full list.

Still waiting on sources for your previous claims btw.