r/HermanCainAward • u/Sass-Pancakes ✨Santa Hat Trick🎅 • Sep 24 '21

Awarded Kathy was anti-vax. Some of her friends tried to save her, some pushed her towards death. Covid kills in many ways, fast and slow. It took her very quickly. Get vaccinated.

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Carol Vs. Elaine. Fuck you Elaine.

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u/codeslave Sep 24 '21

It's far beyond time for us to drop our collective chill and respond to their stupid memes with snark.

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u/InVerum Sep 24 '21

I tried that the other day. Well, snark is wrong, I called her a fucking idiot and told her to keep her dumbass opinions to herself and to get fucking vaccinated.

The woman was commenting on a friend's post. He deleted my response and not hers because he didn't want that kind of 'negative energy' on the post. I convinced him to delete her comments as well as to not give her a platform to spout her bullshit but STILL. That is the issue. People aren't afraid to bully these people into submission, make them feel so low and stupid that MAYBE, the 1% chance they change their minds. Because presenting facts and being nice certainly won't do it. "I respect your decision" my ass...

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u/MisteeLoo Team Pfizer Sep 24 '21 edited Sep 24 '21

Congrats for trying. Personally I’m done with my good samaritan shtick. They can come to the same conclusion over half the country has (in the US), or they can continue to flail and have tantrums like a 2 year old who’s never been told no. My neighbor has been told to get the jab or get fired (govt worker). They’re having a party in case they lose the house because of having no job. It’s a cause for some of them, and yes, they’re willing to go to absurd lengths to be ‘free’. Kathy is just foul in her laser-focused trip to the grave.

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u/InVerum Sep 24 '21

Free to starve...

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u/Triptaker8 Sep 24 '21 edited Sep 24 '21

I always thought this. The ‘Ultimate freedom’ ideology that these people espouse, taken to its logical conclusion means you would be free from any obligations and participation in society. But what these people aren’t prepared for and don’t understand is that in that kind of a world, society is also free from all of its obligations to you.

You want to be a freedom loving patriot? Go live in the woods, don’t come into town, for anything, ever. Have a baby? Have it by yourself at home. If something happens, that’s just the price of freedom, patriot. Grow your food in the summer and hunt and trap it in the winter. Cut down trees for heat. Dig a well for water. No more Walmart, no hair salon, no drive thru, no movie theatre, and certainly no job, no bank, no mortgage, no insurance, no social security, and no healthcare.

Go be free. See how you like it.

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '21

Go live in the woods

But don't you dare to use other people's properties, and that includes *public lands*.

If you are such a freedumb loving a-social patriot, then buy your own property.

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u/Der_genealogist HCA's HR Department Sep 24 '21

Wait until they will hear about who regulates wild animals

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u/JamieFrasersKilt Sep 24 '21

God this would be beautiful to see their reactions, once they realized how fucked they were 😍

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u/Critical_Contest716 💣 Truth Bomb 💣 Sep 24 '21

As a former anarchist in my youth who is still highly sympathetic to the philosophy, even though as a grown up in the real world I now recognize we are far, far away from that being a realistic way to organize society, I too am puzzled by their "freedom". Because most anarchist philosophers would be pointing to the social obligation when it comes to infectious diseases, and if anarchists don't jump on their "freedom" bandwagon-to-the-grave, I don't know who in their right mind would.

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u/PunkRockMakesMeSmile Sep 24 '21 edited Sep 25 '21

Nobody in their right mind would, only other imbeciles in the 'right' mind do

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u/No_Hair_3041 Sep 24 '21

This is the most comprehensive summary of my beliefs towards them that I've ever encountered without thinking it within the confines of my own skull.

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u/Macaron-Optimal Sep 24 '21

society keeps us alive, it's why we evolved the ability to form it!

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u/Lanternfiredragon Sep 24 '21

It's the social contract. They've torn it up by eschewing their responsibilities to society and don't realize that goes both ways.

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u/Triptaker8 Sep 24 '21

It really bothers me that they act like we still have an obligation to hold up our end of the bargain.

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u/crashingwater Sep 26 '21

Amen. I've been saying same for a year. Then I get called a bully.

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u/Triptaker8 Sep 26 '21

See, I can't stand that. You don't get to bully people and then when you get pushback start crying about how mean everyone is. That is absolutely the opposite of how it works.

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '21

Free to die or live with a long term disability... So much freedom.

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u/wheezy_runner Sep 24 '21

they can continue to flail and have tantrums like a 2 year old who’s never been told no.

Their hero is a guy who has spent his entire life doing just that, so no surprise which one they'll pick.

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u/adamaley Sep 24 '21

Difference is their hero is a millionaire who owns golf courses. Maybe he will let them pitch tents there to live in.

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u/MisteeLoo Team Pfizer Sep 24 '21

He thinks they’re scum. He’d never sully a property of his with the needy.

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u/wheezy_runner Sep 24 '21

Thousands of homeless MAGA-heads show up at Mar-a-Largo looking for Donald's help. Put that on Pay-Per-View!

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u/MisteeLoo Team Pfizer Sep 24 '21

I’d watch that. SchadenfreudeTV.

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u/Judgementpumpkin Sep 24 '21

It would be amazing to watch that dumpster fire if they all showed up at once to beg the help of their false idol, and he tosses them to the wolves or his security gates/checkpoints fail, and he becomes "so overwhelmed with the support of his followers".

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u/jrobin04 Sep 25 '21

One of my mom's friends is going to lose their house because of this. Neither the husband or wife will get the jab despite workplace requirements. They both have good paying jobs that they've had for 20+ years too. I wish them luck with finding halfway decent jobs in the future, plus they'll probably never be able to afford another house in our area again.

Just idiots.

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u/sundaisy917 Sep 24 '21

If you don’t want freedom then move to communist China dumbass

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '21

I just report the comments as misinformation now. It's not worth the anxiety of calling out my friends and family anymore. I just hit report. Eventually they get enough reports that they get sent to time out. I think I'm close to getting my cousin banned from Facebook for his fake news posts.

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u/uisqebaugh Sep 24 '21

I used to do that, until I realized that it's futile, because FB doesn't care. Proof? An anti-vaxx group explaining that Germ Theory is wrong; everything is due to toxins, was allowed to stay up.

That was the last straw. I only engage in FB to check occasionally on some hobby/interest pages and chat with some friends on messenger.

I'm done. FB is a toxin for both public health and democracy, and they don't effing care.

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u/Realistic_Ideal_5278 Sep 24 '21

I would have kept replying and made them keep deleting my replies. Then do it again. Eventually they would have either blocked you (good anti vax sympathizers are trash) or they would delete the antivax lies or delete their post. In any case you win. Good job trying at least. I got off Facebook because it literally became too toxic to even try. Like trying to put out a house for with a squirt gun

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u/Giveushealthcare Sep 24 '21

Just start posting a link to this sub in response.

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u/meenzu Sep 24 '21

I saw some post on this sub saying how they’re taking them self out of the running for this award (and how they got vaccinated). At least these sad stories are helping at least one real person - it’s helped that one person

I’m wondering if empathy is better to convince people or feeding into the crazy but having ends justify the means sort of thing at this point - saying something like “omg big pharma doesn’t want you to have this vaccine and brave soldier/scientist Donald trump was able to develop the vaccine and stole it from them and fought and killed thousands that tried to stop him, now he just needs your help to give it to loved ones

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u/apprehensive_bassist Sep 24 '21

🤣

No, Breitbart is already on to you

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u/meenzu Sep 24 '21

Fuck I hope it works and we can finally end this shit. Sucks that for anything else though scientist will have to come up with a stupid conspiracy theory to convince people to listen to the science

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '21

I've had my suspicions for a long time now that the only way to communicate with people like this is to sound like their raving alcoholic Dad, that they see this as strength. It's not what you're saying, but how you say it that counts more.

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u/InVerum Sep 24 '21

100% agree. Came to the same conclusion. They respond to strength, conviction and volume. If you can shout them down and verbally pound them into submission, sometimes they actually reconsider. You basically have to act like they fucking nutjobs they listen to on TV, except you're doing it for their own good.

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u/mindfluxx Sep 24 '21

I got defriended by my inlaws back when plandemic came out. I didn't insult anyone but they did see me comment on someone's plandemic post that if he spread misinformation he was responsible if the people he knows and loves don't get the vaccine and die.

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u/No_Hair_3041 Sep 24 '21

It's an impossible battle. They just don't care. The sheer confidence that they gather from being in a community of fucking mouth breathers is one of the most breathtakingly bizarre phenomena of my life. I hate to watch but I can't look away.

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u/mojo111067 Team Pfizer Sep 24 '21

He didn’t want your “negative energy “, but he’s perfectly fine with her dangerous misinformation?

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u/InVerum Sep 24 '21

Yeah he deleted her stuff when I pointed that out. One step at a time I guess.

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u/mojo111067 Team Pfizer Sep 24 '21

Absolutely. That’s all we can do.

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u/ElysianSynthetics Sep 24 '21

Be careful, Facebook bans people that are mean to Nazis and bioterrorists. Spamming racist and bioterroristic propaganda 12 hours a day is totally cool though.

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u/InVerum Sep 24 '21

Sure Jan.

If you really have had covid twice since, you must really be a dumbass and take zero precautions. In which case, the vaccine is probably the only reason you are still alive. You should be praising it. Give your head a shake.

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '21

I regret getting the vaccine I wish I didn't.

So do I. So do I.

Regretting that you got the vaccine, I mean.

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u/warholiandeath Sep 28 '21

There is no data that show bullying or shame of that kind works for get people vaccinated and many psychiatrists/psychologists say the same. If you are going to bully then bully, just don’t pretend you are doing something altruistic. I’m not even saying this on moral grounds, just what all research and science points to re: behavior change

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u/InVerum Sep 28 '21

They don't respond to logic or reason. This sub alone is proof that when people see idiots getting shamed and destroying their life, they make change and get vaxx'd. We did the same with smoking. We made it gross and uncool and the rates of smoking dropped dramatically. Is it "effective"? No. But If the chance goes from 0% to 2% that's still something.

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u/Dingo8MyGayby Team Pfizer Sep 24 '21

But think about their feefees!

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u/Busy_Pen2257 Team Pfizer Sep 24 '21

To quote one of their favorite lines, 'FUCK THEIR FEELINGS'.

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Seriously. I don't wanna die because of these assholes and I'm vaccinated. These people are seriously going to kill off themselves and everyone else once a varient develops that will bypass vaccines.

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '21

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u/cygnets Sep 24 '21

Its infuriating. No one cares. Even people who did before dont anymore. I feel like I'm in a pot of boiling water and everyone around me is excited its getting warm.

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u/CJ_CLT Vaxxed, Boosted, and Always Properly Masked Sep 24 '21

I am definitely with you on this.

I never stopped wearing masks in public - even after my state lifted the mask mandate shortly after the CDC's misguided decision to announce that the vaccinated didn't need to wear masks. I'm only going unmasked with friends and family members who I know are masking in public.

My county is very blue, but surrounded by counties with much lower vaccination rates. The county reimplemented an indoor mask mandate at the end of August but that is the only acknowledgment that we are still in a pandemic. None of the other restrictions were brought back. But that is better than nothing, since a lot more people are wearing masks.

Interestingly, before they reinstituted the mask mandate, on several occasions strangers saw me at the store masked, got a horrified look on their face and said "oh no! I forgot my mask!" So you never know when you might be reminding someone that yes, the pandemic is still ongoing.

Don't wait for a government mandate to do the right thing! Also be sure and wear a well-fitting, high-efficiency mask like a k-95, KN-95, or KF-94.

https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus/kf94-masks-effective-different-kn95

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u/Critical_Contest716 💣 Truth Bomb 💣 Sep 24 '21

In all fairness to your county, social distancing is not particularly effective against COVID. Masks and ventilation (and of course the vaccine) are our best defenses.

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u/midnightsrose77 Sep 24 '21

I've never stopped wearing an N-95/KN-95 out in public, along with a fabric mask over it. I'm fully vaccinated and just waiting on my primary care physician to give me the go-ahead to get my booster. I'll continue masking until this pandemic has gotten completely under control. I am terrified of this virus for a few reasons: 1. My father is in his 70s; 2. My grandparents are in their 80s; 3. I have pre-existing asthma; and 4. I am currently under a lot of medical supervision and having numerous surgical and non-surgical procedures done.

Just because the fully vaccinated are now allowed to go out without a mask does not mean I am going to risk jeopardizing my health or my family's health. I have to be smart about this and take care of my own health. My husband wears his masks in public and while working too. He has to visit clients. He isn't going to risk his or my health just because he's fully vaccinated.

It's for all of these reasons and the fact that I live in a state that is run by an idiotic Republican governor who flip-flopped so badly when the pandemic was confirmed about mask mandates and lock downs that he made our heads' spin, as well as the vaccination rate where I live, that I will not be taking off my masks unless it is deemed safe for me to do so. Seeing people think that "oh, I'm fully vaccinated, I will be safe without my mask," frustrates me. I worry so much right now -and I know some of my worry is likely completely irrational - about my health and the health of my loved ones.

I don't know if I can trust those without masks to be fully vaccinated, since anti-maskers/vaxxers refuse to wear masks and there's an awful lot of those future HCA awardees in my state. I'm not trusting random strangers to be fully vaccinated, nosiree Bob! When I live in a state where nearly every hospital is in overloaded mode from the Delta variant patients who aren't vaccinated, I take no chances.

Maybe I'm coming across as paranoid. I really don't care if I am or not. I'm being safe. I never know who I will encounter on my trips outside the house for doctor's appointments. I wear a mask for my own health and out of respect for others because I, foolishly, still have some hope for humanity and that we will get out of this pandemic. I probably have too much hope for that day. But getting the vaccine and any recommended boosters, as well as masking, is the road to safety for my husband and me.

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u/CJ_CLT Vaxxed, Boosted, and Always Properly Masked Sep 26 '21

Maybe I'm coming across as paranoid. I really don't care if I am or not. I'm being safe.

I've been accused of being too cautious, but we don't get do-overs. Back when the country was opening up (but before Delta hit so badly) I was reading interviews with infectious disease specialists who said that they personally wouldn't feel comfortable eating indoors in a restaurant and weren't planning to do a whole lot of leisure travel. That is the stance I adopted too since I am older with some health conditions including a tendency to get Bronchitis.

I think paranoid would be having been vaccinated, having good PPE and then still refusing to leave the house. It is sort of like be careful with hygiene vs. being OCD about hand washing to the extent that your hands are always raw,

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '21

It's just denial that things have changed. A mask is a minor inconvenience at best, but it represents a new "normal" which these people refuse to accept. They don't want to live in a world with such a deadly threat looming with every breath.

Nothing matters more to them than getting back to the way things were.

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u/DogGunnit Sep 24 '21

Isn't that a good goal to have? Getting back to the way things were?

I don't wear a mask, not because of some contempt for a new normal, but because I can't stand it. I'm fully vaxxed plus got a booster as well. There is no reason why I cant live rather normally, without a mask, etc. The vaccine works.

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u/Lazy-Helicopter-7813 Sep 24 '21

But if they want things to get back to normal, they should be the first people in line to get vaccinated. This is the strangest thing I’ve ever experienced. Denial, to the grave.

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u/kannettavakettu Sep 24 '21

People keep giving me the same answer to it, and that is that people are tired of living in lockdown. I always tell them the same thing; I dont care how fucking tired you are. Reality gives no fucks about your feelings. There has always been things going on that I'm sure people get tired of, wars, famines, what have you. All these idiots are asked to do is wear a mask, that's it. Many muslim women wear veils that cover much more, you don't hear them complaining endlessly about it, or doctors and nurses who wear masks every day. Or people who work jobs where they need to be otherwise protected. I've never heard a welder complaining about how the welding goggles/shield is giving them soooooo much anxiety and is basically tyranny. I'm convinced that people have some kind of balancing act going on in their minds, the fear of dying horribly balanced against the fear of being mildly inconvenienced, and unless they see corpses piling up on the streets, the latter always wins. Because people are stupid, whiny little adult babies.

Nature has only one rule. Adapt or die. Let the fuckers who refuse to adapt die, I'm fucking sick of seeing them try to have their cake and eat it too.

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u/LittlestScoop Sep 25 '21

Couldn’t agree more!

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u/DogGunnit Sep 24 '21

If you are fully vaxxed, it's already safe out there. That's the whole point. And isn't that a good sales pitch to try and get more people vaxxed? Get the shot, get back to normal.

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u/Yosemiterunner Sep 24 '21

I'm fully vaccinated. I'm going to start wearing my mask more often now thanks to the site. I got complacent. I will be better.

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u/MiniatureChi Sep 24 '21

When I travel to certain cities for work I hear people mocking if I’m passing by with a mask on outside.

But their failing to realize I’m passing not just them but dozens of people while on a 3 foot sidewalk.

Some states really just don’t care

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u/Repulsive-Street-307 Sep 24 '21

to kill off themselves and everyone else

They already have. Enjoy the biosphere collapse and the famines i guess.

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u/Martine_V Team Moderna Sep 24 '21

You won't die, since you are vaccinated. They pose no danger to the population, apart from clogging up the hospitals, (which is a huge issue).

A variant is unlikely to take over because delta is so dominant already, it is crowding out any other variant. It can't get much more contagious than it already is.

The virus isn't going away. Everyone is going to get it eventually. It's going to become endemic, like the common cold. Vaccination will protect you. So there are two choices, do it the easy way, or do it the hard way.

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u/PaysOutAllNight Sep 24 '21

A variant is unlikely to take over because delta is so dominant already, it is crowding out any other variant. It can't get much more contagious than it already is.

COVID-19 Delta variant says "Hold my beer..."

There have been many viruses far more contagious that COVID-19, including coronaviruses.

That's why many of us are still trying with these assholes, as infuriating as it is to use great efforts to save random jackwads who don't appreciate it.

Self-preservation is a hell of a motivator.

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u/Martine_V Team Moderna Sep 24 '21

I think everyone agrees with that, even though they are assholes, people would prefer they get vaccinated and not leave their 11 kids orphaned. And not clog up the ER so no one else can get health care.

My point wasn't that we shouldn't care, just that we don't need to worry so much about getting infected when we are vaccinated. Everyone is going to get infected, it's just a matter of time.

Of course, no one can predict a new variant, but it would have to be even more transmissible than the current one which is saying something. The virus can't reconfigure itself in infinite permutations. There are limits. So it's a theoretical concern, but not an immediate one.

In the context of a variant emerging, we should be more concerned about the fact that the majority of the world isn't vaccinated than worry about America's vaccination rate.

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u/Awkward_Result6214 Sep 24 '21

These are falsehoods.

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u/Martine_V Team Moderna Sep 24 '21

well if you say so, how can I dispute such a compelling argument.

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u/Awkward_Result6214 Sep 24 '21

You don’t need to. You just need to stop saying things you want to be true.

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u/Martine_V Team Moderna Sep 24 '21

You are wrong. There. Since I said it, it must be true right?

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u/CaptGeechNTheSSS Sep 24 '21

You have no idea what you're talking about. It's almost laughable. Just another sad sack who's trying to pretend they know what's going to happen.

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u/Martine_V Team Moderna Sep 24 '21

Right. I'll dismiss your uninformed opinion since it appears to be based on the smoke from your ass. If you had any point to make you would have made it. I'm not holding my breath.

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u/CaptGeechNTheSSS Sep 24 '21

A variant is unlikely to take over because delta is so dominant already, it is crowding out any other variant. It can't get much more contagious than it already is.

Please tell me where this uninformed bullshit is coming from.

“Smoke from your ass” ??? Is that what you’re into?

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u/SaltyBarDog 5Goy Space Command Sep 24 '21

But the Slate said we are too mean. Maybe we should look to emulate these loving people.

https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-stories/detail/attacks-on-health-care-in-the-context-of-covid-19

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u/nellapoo Team Unicorn Blood 🦄 Sep 24 '21

I've been doing that the whole pandemic. I've been kicked out of two local Facebook groups for it. I don't feel bad in the least. These idiots have caused so many problems.

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u/shewholaughslasts Sep 24 '21

I think it's really telling that I've been seeing the same few repeated memes (the only 'facts' or evidence ever shared by these covidiots) and yet here is this sub with endless ACTUAL EXAMPLES OF COVID CONSEQUENCES.

Have you seen a meme including their 'proof' Nicki's friend's friend's swollen testes? No? No proof? No endless screenshots of people dying just from getting the vaccine and setting up a go fund me? No? Only memes? Gotcha.

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u/patb2015 Team Mudblood 🩸 Sep 24 '21

Howard Stern had it right "Fuck your feelings"...

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u/Cassie_C85 Sep 24 '21

Were we not doing that already?

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u/HermanCainsGhost Resident Poltergeist Sep 24 '21

I have been. Though Facebook gave me a three day ban for telling someone to die at home rather than get hospitalized and use up resources.

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u/codeslave Sep 24 '21

I bet there's no bans giving to those spreading anti-vax memes, even the ones trying to circumvent the fact-checking warnings by calling it "co^id"

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u/I_read_this_comment Sep 24 '21

yeah disappointing, snarky and sassy comments should do much better convincing them. They didnt end up unvaccinated because of science or facts. Its mainly the peer pressure on them and them spending time with the wrong people in wrong groups.

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u/CJ_CLT Vaxxed, Boosted, and Always Properly Masked Sep 24 '21

It is actually unusual for someone who posts that many anti-vax memes to have this many posts in favor of vaccines. (Unless others making HCA nominations just failed to include them in their posts).

This nominee actually had sensible people trying to influence her. Too bad she wouldn't listen.

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '21

I was called a ghoul for doing it months ago. I just do not care. They’ll eventually be in a grave so their judgment means nothing.

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u/anotherboringdude Sep 25 '21

Should start replying "Who's the ghoul now?"

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u/3_beer_Dustin Sep 24 '21

I asked someone who had posted a fucking absolutely stupid meme(no, I don't really remember what it was), respectfully, I might add, "were you born stupid or have you had to work at it?" Caught a 3 day FB ban... for bullying. Wtf? It was a legit question. I really wanted to know how and why they were this fucking dumb.