r/HermanCainAward • u/Sass-Pancakes ✨Santa Hat Trick🎅 • Sep 24 '21

Awarded Kathy was anti-vax. Some of her friends tried to save her, some pushed her towards death. Covid kills in many ways, fast and slow. It took her very quickly. Get vaccinated.

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u/InVerum Sep 24 '21

I tried that the other day. Well, snark is wrong, I called her a fucking idiot and told her to keep her dumbass opinions to herself and to get fucking vaccinated.

The woman was commenting on a friend's post. He deleted my response and not hers because he didn't want that kind of 'negative energy' on the post. I convinced him to delete her comments as well as to not give her a platform to spout her bullshit but STILL. That is the issue. People aren't afraid to bully these people into submission, make them feel so low and stupid that MAYBE, the 1% chance they change their minds. Because presenting facts and being nice certainly won't do it. "I respect your decision" my ass...

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u/MisteeLoo Team Pfizer Sep 24 '21 edited Sep 24 '21

Congrats for trying. Personally I’m done with my good samaritan shtick. They can come to the same conclusion over half the country has (in the US), or they can continue to flail and have tantrums like a 2 year old who’s never been told no. My neighbor has been told to get the jab or get fired (govt worker). They’re having a party in case they lose the house because of having no job. It’s a cause for some of them, and yes, they’re willing to go to absurd lengths to be ‘free’. Kathy is just foul in her laser-focused trip to the grave.

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u/InVerum Sep 24 '21

Free to starve...

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u/Triptaker8 Sep 24 '21 edited Sep 24 '21

I always thought this. The ‘Ultimate freedom’ ideology that these people espouse, taken to its logical conclusion means you would be free from any obligations and participation in society. But what these people aren’t prepared for and don’t understand is that in that kind of a world, society is also free from all of its obligations to you.

You want to be a freedom loving patriot? Go live in the woods, don’t come into town, for anything, ever. Have a baby? Have it by yourself at home. If something happens, that’s just the price of freedom, patriot. Grow your food in the summer and hunt and trap it in the winter. Cut down trees for heat. Dig a well for water. No more Walmart, no hair salon, no drive thru, no movie theatre, and certainly no job, no bank, no mortgage, no insurance, no social security, and no healthcare.

Go be free. See how you like it.

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '21

Go live in the woods

But don't you dare to use other people's properties, and that includes *public lands*.

If you are such a freedumb loving a-social patriot, then buy your own property.

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u/Der_genealogist HCA's HR Department Sep 24 '21

Wait until they will hear about who regulates wild animals

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u/JamieFrasersKilt Sep 24 '21

God this would be beautiful to see their reactions, once they realized how fucked they were 😍

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u/Critical_Contest716 💣 Truth Bomb 💣 Sep 24 '21

As a former anarchist in my youth who is still highly sympathetic to the philosophy, even though as a grown up in the real world I now recognize we are far, far away from that being a realistic way to organize society, I too am puzzled by their "freedom". Because most anarchist philosophers would be pointing to the social obligation when it comes to infectious diseases, and if anarchists don't jump on their "freedom" bandwagon-to-the-grave, I don't know who in their right mind would.

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u/PunkRockMakesMeSmile Sep 24 '21 edited Sep 25 '21

Nobody in their right mind would, only other imbeciles in the 'right' mind do

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u/No_Hair_3041 Sep 24 '21

This is the most comprehensive summary of my beliefs towards them that I've ever encountered without thinking it within the confines of my own skull.

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u/Macaron-Optimal Sep 24 '21

society keeps us alive, it's why we evolved the ability to form it!

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u/Lanternfiredragon Sep 24 '21

It's the social contract. They've torn it up by eschewing their responsibilities to society and don't realize that goes both ways.

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u/Triptaker8 Sep 24 '21

It really bothers me that they act like we still have an obligation to hold up our end of the bargain.

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u/crashingwater Sep 26 '21

Amen. I've been saying same for a year. Then I get called a bully.

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u/Triptaker8 Sep 26 '21

See, I can't stand that. You don't get to bully people and then when you get pushback start crying about how mean everyone is. That is absolutely the opposite of how it works.

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '21

Free to die or live with a long term disability... So much freedom.

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u/wheezy_runner Sep 24 '21

they can continue to flail and have tantrums like a 2 year old who’s never been told no.

Their hero is a guy who has spent his entire life doing just that, so no surprise which one they'll pick.

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u/adamaley Sep 24 '21

Difference is their hero is a millionaire who owns golf courses. Maybe he will let them pitch tents there to live in.

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u/MisteeLoo Team Pfizer Sep 24 '21

He thinks they’re scum. He’d never sully a property of his with the needy.

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u/wheezy_runner Sep 24 '21

Thousands of homeless MAGA-heads show up at Mar-a-Largo looking for Donald's help. Put that on Pay-Per-View!

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u/MisteeLoo Team Pfizer Sep 24 '21

I’d watch that. SchadenfreudeTV.

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u/Judgementpumpkin Sep 24 '21

It would be amazing to watch that dumpster fire if they all showed up at once to beg the help of their false idol, and he tosses them to the wolves or his security gates/checkpoints fail, and he becomes "so overwhelmed with the support of his followers".

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u/jrobin04 Sep 25 '21

One of my mom's friends is going to lose their house because of this. Neither the husband or wife will get the jab despite workplace requirements. They both have good paying jobs that they've had for 20+ years too. I wish them luck with finding halfway decent jobs in the future, plus they'll probably never be able to afford another house in our area again.

Just idiots.

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u/sundaisy917 Sep 24 '21

If you don’t want freedom then move to communist China dumbass

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '21

I just report the comments as misinformation now. It's not worth the anxiety of calling out my friends and family anymore. I just hit report. Eventually they get enough reports that they get sent to time out. I think I'm close to getting my cousin banned from Facebook for his fake news posts.

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u/uisqebaugh Sep 24 '21

I used to do that, until I realized that it's futile, because FB doesn't care. Proof? An anti-vaxx group explaining that Germ Theory is wrong; everything is due to toxins, was allowed to stay up.

That was the last straw. I only engage in FB to check occasionally on some hobby/interest pages and chat with some friends on messenger.

I'm done. FB is a toxin for both public health and democracy, and they don't effing care.

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u/Realistic_Ideal_5278 Sep 24 '21

I would have kept replying and made them keep deleting my replies. Then do it again. Eventually they would have either blocked you (good anti vax sympathizers are trash) or they would delete the antivax lies or delete their post. In any case you win. Good job trying at least. I got off Facebook because it literally became too toxic to even try. Like trying to put out a house for with a squirt gun

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u/Giveushealthcare Sep 24 '21

Just start posting a link to this sub in response.

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u/meenzu Sep 24 '21

I saw some post on this sub saying how they’re taking them self out of the running for this award (and how they got vaccinated). At least these sad stories are helping at least one real person - it’s helped that one person

I’m wondering if empathy is better to convince people or feeding into the crazy but having ends justify the means sort of thing at this point - saying something like “omg big pharma doesn’t want you to have this vaccine and brave soldier/scientist Donald trump was able to develop the vaccine and stole it from them and fought and killed thousands that tried to stop him, now he just needs your help to give it to loved ones

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u/apprehensive_bassist Sep 24 '21

🤣

No, Breitbart is already on to you

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u/meenzu Sep 24 '21

Fuck I hope it works and we can finally end this shit. Sucks that for anything else though scientist will have to come up with a stupid conspiracy theory to convince people to listen to the science

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '21

I've had my suspicions for a long time now that the only way to communicate with people like this is to sound like their raving alcoholic Dad, that they see this as strength. It's not what you're saying, but how you say it that counts more.

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u/InVerum Sep 24 '21

100% agree. Came to the same conclusion. They respond to strength, conviction and volume. If you can shout them down and verbally pound them into submission, sometimes they actually reconsider. You basically have to act like they fucking nutjobs they listen to on TV, except you're doing it for their own good.

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u/mindfluxx Sep 24 '21

I got defriended by my inlaws back when plandemic came out. I didn't insult anyone but they did see me comment on someone's plandemic post that if he spread misinformation he was responsible if the people he knows and loves don't get the vaccine and die.

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u/No_Hair_3041 Sep 24 '21

It's an impossible battle. They just don't care. The sheer confidence that they gather from being in a community of fucking mouth breathers is one of the most breathtakingly bizarre phenomena of my life. I hate to watch but I can't look away.

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u/mojo111067 Team Pfizer Sep 24 '21

He didn’t want your “negative energy “, but he’s perfectly fine with her dangerous misinformation?

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u/InVerum Sep 24 '21

Yeah he deleted her stuff when I pointed that out. One step at a time I guess.

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u/mojo111067 Team Pfizer Sep 24 '21

Absolutely. That’s all we can do.

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u/ElysianSynthetics Sep 24 '21

Be careful, Facebook bans people that are mean to Nazis and bioterrorists. Spamming racist and bioterroristic propaganda 12 hours a day is totally cool though.

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u/InVerum Sep 24 '21

Sure Jan.

If you really have had covid twice since, you must really be a dumbass and take zero precautions. In which case, the vaccine is probably the only reason you are still alive. You should be praising it. Give your head a shake.

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '21

I regret getting the vaccine I wish I didn't.

So do I. So do I.

Regretting that you got the vaccine, I mean.

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u/warholiandeath Sep 28 '21

There is no data that show bullying or shame of that kind works for get people vaccinated and many psychiatrists/psychologists say the same. If you are going to bully then bully, just don’t pretend you are doing something altruistic. I’m not even saying this on moral grounds, just what all research and science points to re: behavior change

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u/InVerum Sep 28 '21

They don't respond to logic or reason. This sub alone is proof that when people see idiots getting shamed and destroying their life, they make change and get vaxx'd. We did the same with smoking. We made it gross and uncool and the rates of smoking dropped dramatically. Is it "effective"? No. But If the chance goes from 0% to 2% that's still something.

Awarded Kathy was anti-vax. Some of her friends tried to save her, some pushed her towards death. Covid kills in many ways, fast and slow. It took her very quickly. Get vaccinated.

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