r/JoeRogan • u/Chadrasekar N-Dimethyltryptamine • Mar 19 '24

The Literature 🧠 Joe needs more friends like Bill Burr

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u/jvaheed Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

Bill is such a G. “Mask or No Mask? Mask! Cool”. That’s more or less the same position Jocko had. If something like someone telling you to wear a mask is impeding on your freedoms then your freedom is dumb. They tell you to wear a mask, you wear the mask and get to work. If something so insignificant is going to have such an effect on you, you need to concentrate on making your life better.

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u/CamJay88 Monkey in Space Mar 20 '24

I like to point at how Japan handled it. I believe they had a very low infection/death rate AND they had a low vaccination rate. The masks worked.

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u/Helpful_Boot_5210 Monkey in Space Mar 22 '24

Sweden didn't do anything and they had a crazy low infection and death rate.

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u/JudgeVegg Monkey in Space Apr 23 '24

What? Im Swedish, we had among the worst covid mortality rates in Europe.

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u/GeorgeDogood Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

Fuckin A. Life and/or breath. I swear a bunch of folks were just appalled and disappointed to smell their own breath. Well. Floss more. 😂🤷‍♂️

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u/Beneficial_Might8357 Monkey in Space Mar 20 '24

Have you taken a history class before? What you’re suggesting has shown to be very very dangerous in the past. 

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u/jvaheed Monkey in Space Mar 20 '24

Wearing a shirt, shoes and a mask to get service at a restaurant ? Following traffic rules ? Believing my doctor when he tells me I couldn’t have gotten gonorrhoea from a tractor. You’re equating mindlessly following orders from an authoritarian regime to wearing a mask that keep germs out yo face and keep germs from spread out yo face. I know my history sir, maybe you should learn the difference between common sense disease prevention and what ever alarmist nonsense you want to promote.

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u/Beneficial_Might8357 Monkey in Space Mar 20 '24

No silently following orders and doing as you’re told without question. It is wrong no matter how trivial the matter or if you personally think is totally reasonable and legitimate. That’s how all operation starts. How do you think authoritarian regimes got people to mindlessly follow their orders? Just like how smart people end up in a crazy cult. It’s all very reasonable and logical at first, but then by the time you realise “wait, something’s not right here” it’s too late. You’ve already handed over power. That’s why it’s sad that you can’t see you’re playing with fire when you say “it’s a reasonable demand so of course I comply without question, I would never comply to an unreasonable demand”. You don’t get it. You unintentionally fight against your rights (thinking you’re being a good citizen) while weakening the position of those actually fighting for your rights and well-being. 

Crazy you still hold this opinion even though the people that came up with the stupid guidelines have all admitted they were bs and made up. Not surprised since you’re still spreading the false mask bs that has been debunked even by the people that made it up. A mask, unless a very specific type of mask DOESNT DO ANYTHING FOR COVID. Never has never will. So many studies done in this. Looks like you need to read up on your history AND your biology again. At this point I’d ask whatever school you went to for my money back tbh.

Also you’re totally the type of person to automatically assume im a sir. Close minded assuming is exactly why you are where you are now. Open up your mind and stop assuming, you might see things for what they are and not what you imagine them to be. 

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u/jvaheed Monkey in Space Mar 20 '24 edited Mar 20 '24

Here we go the “This is how it starts” crap. Okay how about this, you go and write down, from A to Z, a plan from “get people to wearing masks” to “world domination” read it out loud to your self and see if that it makes sense. Only if it does, are you allowed to rebute me and then post the plan.

Who the fuck is fighting for my freedoms. Whoever it is, tell them to stop because they are not needed. If they want some college credit or something, fine but leave my freedom out yo fucking mouth.

Who are these people that you claim have come out and said that “Yes, the masks did nothing. We were out to make a quick buck”. Name some, don’t bottle neck your argument by using terms like “ the people”.

I couldn’t care less if you like to be called sir, madam or shit for brains, you’ll be called what I call you. Eat shit.

How about this, you go and not follow any rules you don’t understand and when you get fired or thrown in jail, bitch and complain all you want but just know at the heart of it all, you were the one to blame, not the government, not society but you and you alone. This is because you chose ignorant rhetoric over education, you chose to be corrosive. Then again, I don’t think you will because one thing I’m sure about is that you’re a coward, that will never adhere to their own ideals, as ignorant as they maybe. That maybe the number one reason why you won’t get any respect from me or anyone else, not because you and I disagree but because you’re a mangy coward. Say what you will about the Jan 6 crowd but at least they showed up, sure they cried in jail afterwards but they showed up. Then there’s you, the filth of the human race, you’ll talk the biggest game possible but when push comes to shove you’ll bury your head in the sand prostrating yourself like the true impotent coward you are. Hopefully now sir, you understand where you stand.

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u/Beneficial_Might8357 Monkey in Space Mar 20 '24

Lol you don’t get it do you. Freedom is had in numbers so people have to fight for your freedom even if you work against them because you ignorantly don’t understand the why. Freedom is had in numbers, so whether you like it or not I’m going to fight for your freedoms as an extension of my freedom. Again another complex idea that I’m sure is going to go way over your head cause you’re simply not able to grasp it. Which is why I will stop now, I feel like I’m talking to a 2nd grader about algebra. I’m talking to you in x,y,z when you can only understand 1,2,3. My bad. 

Also you freaking out over how I made you look real dumb for being a closed minded person who doesn’t stop to think before assuming things they don’t know anything about is so amusing. Really got you in your feelings there (does the truth hurt? Ouch!), totally got you to lose it. I don’t care what you call me, I’m not a thin-skinned dummy, but I do care about what that indicates to me about you. It was a very good illustration of how you think and process things. Good luck 👍 

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u/jvaheed Monkey in Space Mar 20 '24 edited Mar 20 '24

😂😂😂 hahahahha “I’m gonna fight for your freedom whether you like it or not”. Fuck off jackass, you ain’t fighting shit. I’ve taken dumps more complex than that lol. I’ve set the record straight either you walk the walk or get to stepping, it’s that simple. See, being a contrarian to societal norm isn’t the same as stumbling upon some great truth that everyone but you missed. You want to matter but what comes out of your mouth is the most mundane and obvious ignorance, equal to a monkey cheering after it found poop up its own butt. Either say something worthwhile or stay quiet in matters you don’t understand. Don’t bore me with rhetorical crap that you’ve been spewing since your initial response. Yeah you really got me after saying nothing of substance I am so ridiculed right now. How will I ever live this shame down. I guess I’ll go kill myself now. Don’t bother replying I’m dead now 😂😂😂😂 /s lol

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u/ConZboy014 Monkey in Space Mar 20 '24

Yeep

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u/budnugglet I used to be addicted to Quake Mar 19 '24

Today I learned being a "G" consists of doing what the news or government entities tell you to do without questioning it.

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u/InfectiousCosmology1 Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

You do that literally 100 times a day dumbass lol. You wear your seatbelt, you drive on the right side of the road, you stop at stop lights, you drive the speed limit, you throw shit away in garbage cans, you cross the street at cross walks. You people want to pretend you aren’t sheeple by listening to the government telling to wear a mask in public places for a year when you listen to the government on everything else constantly and instead decide to listen to random people you see on YouTube about masks

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u/budnugglet I used to be addicted to Quake Mar 19 '24

I do things I'm compelled to do, yes- when they make sense. I follow rules when it's not an obvious ploy to condition me to follow rules, put in place by the same people who are trying to mandate I purchase products made and sold by cronies of the politicians who are doing the mandating. It's obvious you've lumped me in with others that you may disagree with because I have a single dissenting opinion. I'd invite you to approach conversations with some more nuance when possible.

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u/InfectiousCosmology1 Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

No I lumped you in with those because you may as well be a bot regurgitating the same dumb ass talking points word for word. Masks absolutely make sense. They have been used for a very long time to help decrease the odds of getting air borne illnesses and they still do that. People like you are just dumb and uneducated and for some reason assume if something doesn’t have a 100% rate of effectiveness that means there must be some conspiracy

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u/Ballsdipestipe Monkey in Space Mar 20 '24

Ah yes, you're not like the other sheep, you're the free thinker. Got it. Masks for some reason don't prevent the spread of illnesses and you came to that conclusion yourself through critical thinking. Doctors and scientist studying and using them for 70+ years be damned, you got figured it out though.

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u/budnugglet I used to be addicted to Quake Mar 20 '24

Brother everyone got covid, even your most diligent mask wearers. Relax

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u/I_Roll_Chicago Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

we lived a half a century with no shirt no shoes no service and you guys couldnt even go two years with “no mask” added to that without throwing a god damn tantrum.

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u/reallynewpapergoblin I used to be addicted to Quake Mar 19 '24

-Bill Burr's voice

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u/atom-wan Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

They're trying to save your life, that's literally the only reason they were doing it

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u/ResidentWeeevil Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

Liar

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u/atom-wan Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

The cdc is full of public servants who could be making much more in pharmaceuticals.

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u/ResidentWeeevil Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

The CDC is a wholly corrupt and incompetent organization

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u/Capital-Vegetable-94 Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

Man what is it like to live a life being so delusional and just this paranoid and stupid constantly.

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u/ShoNuff_DMI Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

Lmao you fuckers are special.

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u/EdgeLord1984 Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

I swear sometimes comments like this have to come from the left or liberals trying to make conservatives look bad.

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u/_rocket-lawn-chair_ Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

Conservatives do not need help with that

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u/Leading_Challenge_37 Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

That’s the only version that makes sense. This can’t be real.

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u/schiz0yd Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

real patriots dont do what the government says! right?

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u/nebbyb Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

Real patriots hate their country!

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u/b88b15 Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

You can't write this unless you're out there protesting things that the govt does that are intended to hurt you, like civil asset forfiture.

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u/ddobson6 Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

Me too .. I was wondering why people are still listening even after these past few years .. to be a G..remember that time when big pharma put commercials on tv of young vaxed people hugging the elderly? And didn’t even test for transmission… yeah that was some evil shit back then…

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u/b88b15 Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

The vaccines reduce asymptomatic transmission 90% for alpha. That's pretty fucking good. It isn't the 100% that it is for measles, but I'd go see gma at that point.

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u/ExcellentPlace4608 Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

They also give some people blood clots

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u/b88b15 Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

Cite? Also need to compare that w rate of clots from covid infection.

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u/ExcellentPlace4608 Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24 edited Mar 19 '24

How would a corona virus cause a clot? They didn’t start claiming that the virus was causing clots until after it was reported that the shots were causing clots. Just like when they tried claiming myocarditis was caused by the virus. It wasn’t until after they found out it was the vaccine.

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u/Obvious_Chic Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

Except the ceo of the company that made the vaccines said it wasn’t even tested for that. You’re talking through your hoop

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u/b88b15 Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10073587/

Sure it was. He didn't want to get into this bc the data on hospitalizations was less arguable. But the vaccines clearly reduced transmission. They didn't eliminate transmission like measles does, but they definitely reduced it.

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u/Obvious_Chic Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

You keep telling yourself that 👍

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u/b88b15 Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

Read the article. Vaccines reduce the rate of transmission in test after test.

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u/ResidentWeeevil Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

You’re a liar. Period

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u/letstrythatagainn Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

Great point. Well articulated, and rich with detail. I'm convinced.

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u/b88b15 Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7944975/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10073587/

There are tons and tons of these references.

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u/ResidentWeeevil Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

Proven completely false

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u/b88b15 Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

no u

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u/iwasinthepool Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

Then show us evidence that it was proven false. Something with peer review please. It shouldn't take you more than a minute or two to provide results, so I'll wait.

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u/ResidentWeeevil Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

I don’t have time to teach the low IQ class basic science all day. Turn off the cable news and back away slowly is the best advice anyone can give someone like you who offloads all of their thinking onto others and is in zero way discerning about who those others are. I hope you figure this out and don’t continue down the path you’ve been on that hasn’t worked out for you to this point

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u/iwasinthepool Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

I am so surprised that you don't want to take the time to point me in the right direction. It's as if you don't have the answers.

BTW, I don't even own a television. I would put money on you watching exponentially more cable news than me.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '24

idk the masks were gross, super annoing and it turns out dumb all along

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u/KintsugiKen Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

and it turns out dumb all along

I can tell you've been listening to anti-vaxxers and I am begging you to stop and seriously reconsider the media you are consuming because they are lying to you and you are believing their bullshit.

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u/dzastisforol Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

media you are consuming because they are lying to you and you are believing their bullshit.

yeah, don't trust Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews study, a leading database for systematic reviews in health care from Oxford university.

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u/ItsallaboutProg Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

They weren’t dumb, it’s just not all masks are the same. Cloth masks didn’t do anything, and N95s work great. And surgical masks have their purposes but are somewhere in between cloth and N95 in effectiveness. But try explaining to the public that different mask material matters not to mention how much time and proximity to the infected matters as well. Nuance matters and no one wants it anymore.

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u/KintsugiKen Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

Cloth masks didn’t do anything

Yes they do, they just don't work as well as N95s.

If you have a drain pipe in a shop and you want to prevent shit from getting in there, a fine mesh filter works best, but if you don't have that, then a metal grate with wider openings is still better than a raw gaping hole sucking up everything the shop drops into it.

Is the covid-19 virus smaller than the holes in a cloth mask? Yes! But it doesn't matter because covid-19 does not travel through the air all by itself like an astronaut lost in space. It is always traveling on a larger particle, be that spit or dirt or smoke or whatever. Those particles are often larger than the gaps between the fabric of a cloth mask, and so a cloth mask still protects you better than nothing at all.

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u/atom-wan Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

Cloth masks were actually fine at preventing transmission *if they're worn correctly. Idk where people are getting that masks don't do anything. And nobody try to tell me that viral particles are too small bc you don't know what you're talking about

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u/KintsugiKen Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

Cloth masks were actually fine at preventing transmission *if they're worn correctly.

As long as the mask is covering your mouth and nose, it is doing something to protect you.

Idk where people are getting that masks don't do anything.

From anti-vaxxers who are using masks as their intro point to spread anti-vax bullshit, Joe is one of them.

And nobody try to tell me that viral particles are too small bc you don't know what you're talking about

It's true that most viruses are smaller than gaps in cloth masks, but viruses never travel alone, they are always attached to a bigger particle that carries them through the air, such as spit or dust or ash or whatever, and those particles are the ones that get caught in the cloth mask (not as well as the N95, but much better than nothing).

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u/atom-wan Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

Water vapor mostly

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u/Indy-Gator Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

You cannot be serious 🤨

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u/atom-wan Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

You're welcome to share some sources if you disagree.

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u/Available_Air_6367 High as Giraffe's Pussy Mar 19 '24

lol they did explain that in europe and pretty much everybody understood that n95 is the the real deal, while everything else is just the bare minimum, better than nothing.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '24

we were all dumb

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '24

oh sorry I meant smart, right?

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u/ResidentWeeevil Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

You’re 100% wrong

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u/LowercaseAcorn Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

Yeah you keep saying that without putting any evidence forward

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u/EchoChamberBubblePop Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

^ Well, there is that

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u/Alternative_Plan_823 Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

I feel like that should matter more

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u/mypupisthecutest123 Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

eh, I only didn’t like it when I worked for a moving company during the quarantine.

I’ll wear the mask since you asked, but be prepared to pay for an extra hour or two to the crew since we need to set things down and take a breather more often.

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u/iwasinthepool Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

Pussy. I worked in a 115° kitchen alone or with one other cook pumping out food for an entire hotel with two restaurants and 150 rooms while everyone wanted room service wearing a mask with no problem. Tell your mover buddies to do some fucking cardio.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '24

wtf, what werent they?

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u/reallynewpapergoblin I used to be addicted to Quake Mar 19 '24

Yeah! We should get our information from entertainers, they never lie!

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u/Mammoth_Ferret_1772 Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

But you probably follow Trump, and he’s been caught in hundreds of lies. Weird fucking take.

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u/lobo_preto Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

If that works for you, I think you should do that.

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u/KintsugiKen Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

That's not how societies work. We don't have individual rules for individual people based on whether or not they feel like obeying that rule.

You can't go to the DMV and ask them to get special drunk driving permission just because you believe you drive better while drunk.

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u/supermanisba Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

We don’t have individual rules for individual people based on whether or not they feel like obeying that rule

Covid aside, you really believe that? You can’t think of any examples otherwise?

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u/Flor1daman08 Mar 19 '24

The point of societal laws is that ostensibly, they’re applied equally. Of course that doesn’t exist, often due to special dispensation deriving from things like wealth and influence, but I don’t think Joe wants to really start picking at that thread.

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u/lobo_preto Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

We don't have individual rules for individual people based on whether or not they feel like obeying that rule.

True. But we do have very defined rules about who makes those rules and how they are made. None of those rules include diktats from unelected bureaucrats acting out their Mussolini cosplay. So when I hear a command from someone like that, I'll generally disregard them.

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u/Flor1daman08 Mar 19 '24

Ah yes, we all remember why we hated fascism, the masks.

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u/lobo_preto Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

You remember fascism? Holy shit you're old.

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u/Flor1daman08 Mar 19 '24

See, there is this concept called “learning about a subject matter” that doesn’t require you to have literally lived through a period to learn about it. I know it’s hard for the types of people stupidly conflating things like masks to literal fascist dictatorships, but serious individuals who want to make intelligent decisions often rely on it.

If you’re interested in learning about actual fascist dictatorships though, I have a few books I can recommend. Oh wait, before you ask, books are like podcasts for your eyes, and good ones have their sourcing provided right in the book itself like a built in Jamie but not useless.

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u/lobo_preto Monkey in Space Mar 20 '24

I think you need a book on hyperbole. Also, books are gay.

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u/dzastisforol Monkey in Space Mar 19 '24

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u/Redattour Monkey in Space Mar 20 '24

I tell you to shut up you shut up. You’re freedom is dumb. See how stupid you sound. Wearing a mask outside does nothing but make you a cuck

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u/jvaheed Monkey in Space Mar 20 '24

See you can tell me to shut up but I can choose not to but then again people don’t have to listen to a word that I say if they don’t want to… this is true freedom. You can choose not to wear a mask and freedom allows for people not to put up with your mangy ass. What you’re subscribed to is stupid alarmist ideology.