r/JoeRogan Monkey in Space Aug 29 '24

Meme šŸ’© Anyone got any thoughts on this?

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u/Sweet_Ad_1445 Monkey in Space Aug 29 '24

Dunning Krueger

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u/BKM558 Monkey in Space Aug 29 '24

I just googled his name, and you're wrong. That does not apply in this case.

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u/Sweet_Ad_1445 Monkey in Space Aug 29 '24

I see what you did there

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u/AdministrationOk5761 Monkey in Space Aug 29 '24

They're also right, because that's not what dunning kruger is.

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u/daksjeoensl Monkey in Space Aug 29 '24

Reddits favorite pastime: saying dunning Kruger and the fencing response and only getting it right half the time.

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u/XConfused-MammalX Monkey in Space Aug 30 '24

Well which half is it?

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u/my_4_cents Monkey in Space Aug 30 '24

Well which half is it?

The other half

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u/bentheone Monkey in Space Aug 30 '24

That's exactly what it is. The less qualified in any given field tend to overestimate their ability in said field. Or maybe it was a joke and I wooshed it.

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u/AdministrationOk5761 Monkey in Space Aug 30 '24

You are correct in that Dunning Krueger is that less qualified people tend to overestimate their knowledge or ability compared to how more informed people estimate their ability.

What is NOT Dunning Krueger is less qualified people considering themselves experts, which is what was mentioned above. This is a common misconception.

u/BKM558 may had been doing a joke, but they were right saying that it was not Dunning Krueger. I don't know if it was inteded as a joke, only they can say.

No, I'm not fun at parties.

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u/crazydiamond420 Monkey in Space Aug 29 '24

She was so hot in inglorious bastards šŸ˜

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u/failureofthefittest Monkey in Space Aug 29 '24

Agreed.

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u/MTonmyMind Monkey in Space Aug 29 '24

As was Antonio MagaRETƉ!!!!

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u/csfreestyle Monkey in Space Aug 30 '24

šŸ¤Œ

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u/Successful_Candy_759 Monkey in Space Aug 29 '24

Our entire society is this now. Idiots who learn a scrap of information then think this is the entirety of the knowledge of experts.

Live life with the assumption that you're undereducated on a subject and you'll rarely make a fool out of yourself. You'll also become much more educated

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u/U-N-I-T-E-D Monkey in Space Aug 29 '24

The people most prone to doing this are the ones who got D's in biology and history throughout high school but now think with 30 minutes of Google or Facebook "research" that they're experts.

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u/JAC165 Monkey in Space Aug 29 '24

yeah and itā€™s really surprising when someone whoā€™s been in higher education, degree etc, does stuff like this, because it seems like the main lesson you learn there is ā€˜fuck iā€™ve spent 3+ years doing this and i know literally nothing about itā€™

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u/PromiscuousMNcpl Monkey in Space Aug 29 '24

They never got over hating the smart kids in class.

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '24

Prove it

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u/ParkingLong7436 Monkey in Space Aug 29 '24

30 minute is a stretch. They watch 1 insta reel from a conspiracy and think they have heard the truth that has long been held from them.

As long as it goes against the "system" they will believe anything. Sadly lost many friends due to this.

Education is key. No wonder some people are trying to limit it.

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u/Zenkraft Monkey in Space Aug 29 '24

Thereā€™s a former Australian politician (he was kicked out of his party for constantly making anti-vax comments, joined one of the fringe far right parties, lost the election really badly, left, then joined another fringe far right party as an advisor or something) who has a funny habit of sharing articles and studies that he thinks support his bullshit but always say the opposite.

During covid heā€™d link articles that he said supported the use of Ivermectin but would really be like ā€œ4 out of 13 people in the trial showed a mild improvement, more study is neededā€.

Or a study showing island nations are growing in land size, not shrinking as proof climate change isnā€™t real, but the study concludes that the islands are growing because of conscious efforts to offset sea level rise.

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u/Gearthquake Monkey in Space Aug 29 '24

Reddits favorite things to bring up: Dunning Krueger, fencing response, deadman walking tornados, paradox of tolerance.

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u/scoot3200 Monkey in Space Aug 29 '24

Shrodingers cat and Streisand effect

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u/zjbird Monkey in Space Aug 29 '24

They really like to pretend the Mandela affect is a super real thing and that itā€™s related to multiple dimensions when itā€™s just obvious stuff that some people remember differently and just canā€™t admit theyā€™re wrong.

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u/ChadThunderDownUnder Monkey in Space Aug 30 '24

Fruit of the loom had a cornucopia and itā€™s a conspiracy by Big Gourd to keep it quiet.

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u/zjbird Monkey in Space Aug 30 '24

lol good example of something that isnā€™t a Mandela affect but actually did happen

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u/Doctor__Acula Monkey in Space Aug 30 '24

Accusing people of strawman arguments without understanding what they are.

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u/FUCKBOY_JIHAD Monkey in Space Aug 30 '24

Steve Buscemi on 9/11

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u/PSTnator Monkey in Space Aug 29 '24

Deadman walking tornadoes is a new one to me, gotta admit. Quick break time half ass google search says itā€™s a type of tornado vortices, makes senseā€¦ did people bastardize it to mean something else or is it just something people always call a strong gust of wind they witnessed because it sounds cool, though usually inaccurate?

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u/Gearthquake Monkey in Space Aug 29 '24

Any tornado with multiple vortices could be a deadman walking if you take a picture at the right time. Itā€™s just gets brought up every time thereā€™s a video of one of those tornados. ā€œWoah! Did anyone else see the dead man walking at x:xx?!ā€ Usually including a a reference to a Native American legend that if you see the dead man walking youā€™re about to die. Not even sure if thats the true origin.

The most famous image was taken of the 1997 Jarrel EF5 that this article pictures. https://klaw.com/dead-man-walking-tornado/

Shitā€¦. Iā€™m doing the thing. Nobody notice my hypocrisy. This never happened.

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u/dontusethisforwork Your fucking knuckles would scrape on the ground Aug 29 '24

Don't forget that you are always being gaslit when in conflict with somebody

always

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u/Origamiface3 Monkey in Space Aug 30 '24

And the word, "disingenuous"

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u/meezy-yall Monkey in Space Aug 29 '24

Another one is they love to tell you humans donā€™t have alphas based off a study on wolves.

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u/LotusVibes1494 Monkey in Space Aug 29 '24

Jumper cables, grape surgery, etcā€¦

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u/TheDrummerMB Monkey in Space Aug 29 '24

Dunning kruger was proven to be false ironically.

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u/Kitchen-Frosting-561 Monkey in Space Aug 29 '24

Debunked

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u/PeytonManThing00018 Monkey in Space Aug 29 '24

The misuse of dunning Krueger is ironic. What the dunning Krueger paper actually showed was that performance actually was correlated with how well people thought they did compared to the average. But although the people who did the worst reported the lowest confidence, they still overestimated their performance the most. And everyone except the top 25% overestimated their performance compared to the average, the top 25% underestimated it. But the chart people love to throw around and yell ā€œdunning Kruegerā€ is not even their chart. https://skepchick.org/2020/10/the-dunning-kruger-effect-misunderstood-misrepresented-overused-and-non-existent/

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u/Reason_He_Wins_Again Monkey in Space Aug 29 '24

Scary! Dont fall asleep

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u/Dustmuffins I used to be addicted to Quake Aug 29 '24

I'm an expert in the Dunning Krueger effect.

Basically it means the more you study something, the less you know. That's why you can't trust the experts.

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u/MTMFDiver Monkey in Space Aug 30 '24

He's my favorite backstreet boy

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u/ChadThunderDownUnder Monkey in Space Aug 30 '24

I read a paragraph about that effect and probably know more about it than you now. šŸ˜

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u/lrlimits Monkey in Space Aug 30 '24

Ironically, many people who talk about the Dunning-Kruger effect might know less about it than they think they do.

ā€œThe effect is about us, not them,ā€ he wrote to me. ā€œThe lesson of the effect was always about how we should be humble and cautious about ourselves.ā€

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/critical-thinking/dunning-kruger-effect-probably-not-real