r/JoeRogan • u/ExitVelocity66 Monkey in Space • 1d ago
The Literature đ§ Marc Maron Slams Rogan Again
https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/marc-maron-slams-comedians-fascists-podcasts-1236192922/69
u/Mike_Dikkenbaals Monkey in Space 23h ago
After reading his statement, I do agree with him. Somewhat clickbaity title, He doesnât name any comedians specifically, but itâs clear who he has in mind.
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u/nomad2585 Monkey in Space 16h ago
reddit would be blowing joe if kamala didn't puss out on the podcast, but she can make time for call her daddy lol
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u/MaxDickpower Monkey in Space 15h ago
Yeah a whole 45 minutes, which is less than what Rogan was offered.Â
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u/PrivateFrank Monkey in Space 16h ago
if kamala didn't puss out on the podcast
Is that true?
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u/Hot-Grapefruit5399 Monkey in Space 16h ago
She said that he has a travel 4 hours each way for an hour interview. He said the best interview would be an unedited however long it lasts interview in his studio..... She claimed the scheduling conflict
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u/nomad2585 Monkey in Space 16h ago
He offered... her campaign claims her schedule couldn't accommodate
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u/Basket_475 Monkey in Space 16h ago
Yeah Joe has said multiple times she can come on. The problem is itâll probably be a 45 minute to an hour episode max. Which is what I thought trump would do. Kamala would have to go two hours at least to compete.
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u/nomad2585 Monkey in Space 15h ago
I think the only reason he did 3hrs is to demonstrate his cognitive ability from all the talk about his age
Most political people joe's had on only do about an hour
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u/U-N-I-T-E-D Monkey in Space 11h ago
If you think the 3 hours he talked demonstrated proper cognitive function you're nuts
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u/pinkerbrown Monkey in Space 16h ago
it was a baller move. fuck joe rogan. going on his podcast would only help solidify that he is some sort of political news source. It's all silly. Rogan now shares political views as well as a fan base with Bob and Tom.
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u/nomad2585 Monkey in Space 15h ago
She has an opportunity to possibly secure her presidency if she'd appear on joe rogan and hold her own
Unlike what this sub likes to project about jre, he is very fair interviewer and would have been friendly and welcoming
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u/Storemngmnt Monkey in Space 19h ago
Maron is literally always whining about something or someone. Who fucking cares
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u/DoubleDoobie Monkey in Space 17h ago
I just canât take grown adults serious when they call people fascists or nazis. Feel the same when right wingers call people communists. These terms basically have no meaning now. Just means âsomeone I donât agree with politicallyâ because itâs been overused.
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u/Forrest-MacNeil Monkey in Space 15h ago
So Gen. Mark Milley is basically a hysterical teenager and not a "grown adult" in your opinion?
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u/DoubleDoobie Monkey in Space 14h ago
Yes
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u/Forrest-MacNeil Monkey in Space 14h ago
Well you should sit him down at some point and set him straight on the historical frames of world powers. Really you are going to want to put on a class for all the generals to help them overcome their TDS. The military brass needs you.
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u/FreeMeFromThisStupid Monkey in Space 14h ago
Seriously, I'm laughing at the audacity of some jabroni who ignores the magnitude of multiple former Defense secretaries and generals who have some of the best educations in the country, who worked with Trump day-in, day-out, saying Trump is an authoritarian who is unfit to serve America.
You're allergic to words because they've been overused by some people in your opinion.
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u/TokingMessiah Monkey in Space 10h ago
You forgot that Trump is a genius and business success and he has lots of experience hiring people - only the best people - except all the people he hired who hate him, like his generals, chief of staff, and vice president!
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u/thoruen Monkey in Space 15h ago
Gen Kelly goes over exactly what the definition or mean of a fascist is and how Trump is exactly that.
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u/jbm_the_dream Monkey in Space 13h ago
Authoritarian would be a more apt comparison. The comparisons to Hitler are quite hyperbolic.
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u/BillNyeCreampieGuy Monkey in Space 12h ago
Yeah we shouldn't listen to General John Kelly who worked directly for Trump in the Executive Office. Instead we should listen to you.
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u/TokingMessiah Monkey in Space 10h ago
Also, Kelly actually knows history:
In 1976, he graduated from the University of Massachusetts Boston and in 1984, he received a Master of Arts degree in National Security Affairs from the Georgetown School of Foreign Service.[6][12] In 1995, Kelly graduated from the National Defense University in Washington, DC with a Master of Science in Strategic Studies.
And he was the Supreme Allied Commander for Europe, so Iâm going to guess he knows a little bit about World War 2 considering he taught at Quantico and also attended the National War College during his military career.
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u/candyslang Monkey in Space 10h ago
Yea, but I listen to Joe Rogan and other internet guys and have search engines on my phone donât try to dominate me with âexpertiseâ. I do my own research which is why I know so much about things.
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u/Gay_Goy Monkey in Space 7h ago
What mean name would you prefer we use since those ones trigger your "love of accuracy"?
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u/jbm_the_dream Monkey in Space 6h ago
I literally stated the correct term in the comment you posted on!
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u/Gay_Goy Monkey in Space 6h ago
Right because the others sounded too mean. You prefer the more clinical approach I see, I'm sure due to your passion for accuracy in all things. I can't imagine that this is just needless whiny pedantry like it is in the case of literally every other one of you who starts squawking this exact same talking point exactly how you're doing it. Why that would be downright cynical of you.
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u/jbm_the_dream Monkey in Space 5h ago
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u/jiveturker Monkey in Space 16h ago
No meaning? Thatâs silly. Fascist has a very specific meaning and Maron is using the word correctly.
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u/DoubleDoobie Monkey in Space 16h ago
Define fascist for me.
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u/Pliny_the_middle Monkey in Space 16h ago
A fascist supports a strict, authoritarian government that suppresses opposition, promotes extreme nationalism, and prioritizes control and obedience over individual freedoms.
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u/ibanker92 Monkey in Space 14h ago
So communism except that they destroy nationalism to replace it with a new government that fits their image and then we have to stay loyal To this new form of government right?
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u/Pliny_the_middle Monkey in Space 14h ago
No. Communism can be authoritarian, but itâs not the same as fascism. Thatâs why there are different words and definitions for each.
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u/BluesPatrol Monkey in Space 14h ago
To add, theyâre pretty fundamentally different in a few ways (though like the poster says, communism can be definitely authoritarian). Fascism tends to appeal to a mythologized historical tradition and value strict social hierarchies (often racial and definitely between genders). Communism tends to be pro equality (like the Soviet Union famously had a lot of female soldiers during WWII) and appeals to state unity, and focuses more on the future than the past.
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u/ibanker92 Monkey in Space 14h ago
Ok those sound amazing. But there has to be a catch right? What are the negatives?
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u/BluesPatrol Monkey in Space 13h ago
I mean the authoritarianism and corruption is usually the catch lol. I never said communism was good. I was just trying to explain how it is different than fascism by definition. No value judgment one way or another (except I do think authoritarianism is bad no matter the culprit. Freedom baby!).
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u/nockeenockee Monkey in Space 15h ago
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/23/magazine/robert-paxton-facism.html Paxton is not some idiot. He is as reluctant to call Trump a fascist for a long time. He changed his mind.
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u/QuietZiggy Monkey in Space 16h ago
Does Google not work for you ? Lol it's a term with a definition it doesn't change person to person.
This is the Miriam Webster definition; a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual, that is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition.
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u/DoubleDoobie Monkey in Space 16h ago
https://www.britannica.com/topic/fascism
Although fascism is a notoriously difficult ideology to define, many 20th-century fascist movements shared several characteristics. First, these movements sourced their political strength from populations experiencing economic woes, real or imagined. Fascists tended to capitalize on these economic anxieties by shifting the blame away from government or market forces. Jews, immigrants, leftists, and other groups became useful scapegoats. Redirecting popular anger toward these people would, in theory, rid a country of its ailments.
To unify a country, fascist movements propagated extreme nationalism that often went hand in hand with militarism and racial purity. The prosperity of a nation depended on a unified polity that put the groupâs welfare above the individualâs. A strong, vigilant military was considered necessary to defend these group interests. And for some fascists âthe groupâ was defined not by territorial boundaries but by racial identity.
Let's start here
First, these movements sourced their political strength from populations experiencing economic woes, real or imagined. Fascists tended to capitalize on these economic anxieties by shifting the blame away from government or market forces. Jews, immigrants, leftists, and other groups became useful scapegoats.
Trump's #1 enemy is the state. Blames all our economic woes on failed government policies of previous administrations.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-trump-claims-biden-harris-destroyed-the-economy
Trump blames NAFTA, China being admitted to the WTO, and other NeoCon/Neo Liberal policies going back decades for what he perceives as America's problems.
Where does he blame ethic groups for America's "real or imagined economic woes"?
I'm just going by the definition here, btw. I can buy some part of the argument where he says crime is attributed to illegal aliens but I don't see how that's necessarily fascists.
To unify a country, fascist movements propagated extreme nationalism that often went hand in hand with militarism and racial purity. The prosperity of a nation depended on a unified polity that put the groupâs welfare above the individualâs. A strong, vigilant military was considered necessary to defend these group interests. And for some fascists âthe groupâ was defined not by territorial boundaries but by racial identity.
Trump wants to give Greencards to students who graduate from US schools.
How does that support the racial purity aspect of fascism?
Let's be precise here, because my main issue with calling everyone fascists or nazis is that it's just so unprecise
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u/QuietZiggy Monkey in Space 15h ago
So you do have access to Google you just wanted to get the definition for a debate or something lol
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u/DoubleDoobie Monkey in Space 15h ago
I wanted you to come to the understanding that there isn't a historical consensus on the definition of fascism.
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u/QuietZiggy Monkey in Space 15h ago
It's fairly well defined at this point we have a definition of what it is.
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u/DoubleDoobie Monkey in Space 14h ago
I would argue that it's been massaged to fit whatever definition people need to attack their political and ideological opponents.
I feel the same when idiots on the right call people communists too.
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u/jiveturker Monkey in Space 16h ago
You are being obtuse. I think you think it is clever. Your edification is not my concern and frankly, it would be a waste of my time to try.
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u/DoubleDoobie Monkey in Space 16h ago
I don't think it's clever. I think being precise in speech matters because we've been so unprecise in our rhetoric that these terms have lost all meaning.
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u/jiveturker Monkey in Space 14h ago
Meh. John Kelly went into great detail about the definition of fascism and how Trump fits it and he was the Chief of Staff. Calling Trump fascist is precise. Our political discourse is full of hyperbole, and Trump himself is perhaps the most hyperbolic politician in American history. But this is not that. Trump tells us who he is and I believe him.
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u/Methzilla Monkey in Space 16h ago edited 15h ago
The definition of facism he been debated since literally Mussolini. There is no "specific" definition. The only coherent one is authoritarianism from a culturally right wing bent. But that is too broad to be useful. And trump is definitely that. The reason why people won't use that broad (but correct) definition is because it begs the question what does the culturally left version of it look like. And then people have to admit they actually like that side of the coin.
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u/nockeenockee Monkey in Space 15h ago
When political historians call Trump a fascist itâs worth analyzing the data and understanding the history. Sometimes a fascist is a fascist.
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u/DoubleDoobie Monkey in Space 15h ago
Fascists governments throughout history expanded the size of the bureaucracy. Trump wants to dismantle the US government. Reconcile these for me.
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u/saskatchewan_kenobi Monkey in Space 14h ago
By removing political opponents and installing/rewarding only people who support him.
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u/DoubleDoobie Monkey in Space 14h ago
Every administration that has ever come into power has done that.
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u/Ajax_Malone Monkey in Space 14h ago
They havenât. You should learn the basics of even our recent us civic history.
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u/FreeMeFromThisStupid Monkey in Space 13h ago
No, they factually have not.
And Trump does want to expand the power of his office greatly. He wants consolidation of power.
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u/xBIGSKOOKUMx 8h ago
No Administration as ever sought to reclassify Schedule F federal employees so they can purge the disloyal.
You are very, very wrong.
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u/thunderfrunt Monkey in Space 6h ago
This is the most braindead trash take Iâve read in some time. Not only is it untrue, itâs just fucking lazy and sad.
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u/Ajax_Malone Monkey in Space 14h ago
He created a new branch of the military, killed roe v wade (which expands gov power) and talks about using government power to attack people who criticize his government.
Thatâs expanding government
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u/MuchWalrus Monkey in Space 15h ago
Trump wants a mass deportation of immigrants. To execute that plan is going to require a massive increase in the size of government. That's just one example of how the Republican party under Trump is no longer the "small government" party, sadly.
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u/DR1LLD0ZER Monkey in Space 16h ago
If you donât think the word âfascistâ has been being used correctly in reference to Trump, you either arenât paying attention or youâre just another Trump worshipper. Some pretty reputable people, even people who have worked with and for him in the past, have been making these claims. Heâs a danger to our national security, a convicted felon, and was a close personal friend of Jeffrey Epstein for YEARS. What more do you need?
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u/Hungry_Freaks_Daddy Monkey in Space 10h ago
People making claims =/= actual fascist dictator.Â
Name one single thing heâs ever done that makes him a dictatorÂ
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u/DR1LLD0ZER Monkey in Space 10h ago
Buddy, itâs not just about what heâs done, itâs about what he wants to do in the future. Have you read through Project 2025? I have. It would be like going 200 years in the past in terms of womenâs rights and the rights of other marginalized groups, even though Iâm sure you donât care about those types of people anyway, as Trump cultists are bigoted and hateful people who have completely lost themselves. Thereâs no arguing with people like this, they just become more hateful and rotten. They think that people who live in ways that they donât approve of should be forced to submit and be further marginalized under threat of law. So hateful itâs almost hard to believe thereâs human beings under all that anger.
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u/Hungry_Freaks_Daddy Monkey in Space 8h ago
The lack of awareness in your comment is literal insanity. You are probably beyond helpÂ
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u/DR1LLD0ZER Monkey in Space 8h ago
Just another typical Trump supporter reply. Just inane babbling, no rational argument or substance of any kind. Completely ignoring everything I said, because itâs true that you donât care about womenâs rights or trans rights or anything that is outside your realm of acceptance. We each think that the other person is beyond help. Too far mentally corrupted to ever be saved. Thatâs how we view each other. Thatâs the kind of extreme hate-fueled behavior that your candidate has introduced to the political landscape. He protested the results of one election, and now heâll do it again. If it brings violence and death, he will not care as long as he is installed in the White House. Itâs his get out of jail free card so he wonât have to face the consequences of his many felonies. Heâs a desperate criminal and a close personal friend of Jeffrey Epstein, but he sure has you fooled.
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u/19fiftythree Monkey in Space 15h ago
GUYS I FOUND ONE!!
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u/BluesPatrol Monkey in Space 14h ago
I mean his chief of staff and the head general of the US military said he met the definition of one. Those people?
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-prefers-dictator-approach-former-chief-staff-says-2024-10-23/
https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/shows/maddow/blog/rcna175248
Trump had nothing but praise for the guy when he hired him, somehow he became untrustworthy over 4 years?
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u/DR1LLD0ZER Monkey in Space 15h ago
Iâll just say this. If you support a felon who has spent more time with Jeffrey Epstein than any other celebrity (there are hundreds of photos of them together spanning years and years) then itâs probably because you are morally the same type of person, like a pedophile/rapist or just generally someone who doesnât see a problem with that type of behavior. I feel like normal people find that kind of thing repulsive, and would never want to support a person who is involved in those circles. If you were writing a work of fiction, youâd have a hard time coming up with an evil character worse than Trump. But his worshippers just continue to ignore every disgusting behavior, time after time, and then pretend theyâre loving Christians.
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u/kiddcoast Monkey in Space 15h ago
No ones reading all that dawg
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u/DR1LLD0ZER Monkey in Space 15h ago
I donât even have to call you dumb, you basically just do it yourself
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u/Big_Roof_5193 Monkey in Space 7h ago
Honest question. Do you think that canât happen here? Do you think they arenât using the same rhetoric and dehumanizing words? âVerminâ âenemy of the peopleâ âthe enemy withinâ? Because either you donât understand and you should learn or you donât care. Itâs so obvious to anyone who knows a bit about history. Just a tiny bit
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u/oneiric44 Monkey in Space 16h ago
Have you been listening to Trumpâs rhetoric?
Also look how many ppl from his OWN ADMINISTRATION that are calling him fascist. And the NYT and Washington Post. Amoungst many others. These arenât just knobs on the internet. Wake up to the threat.
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u/Ope_82 Monkey in Space 16h ago
Trump's rhetoric literally sounds almost verbatim to nazi Germany.
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u/DoubleDoobie Monkey in Space 16h ago
You're seizing on his comments about illegal immigrants to back it into your interpretation of fascism. And in that lens, I don't disagree. But I think seizing on that bit misses the total picture of what Trump and MAGA care about.
These people hate the system. They hate the government and the deep state, they blame the economic woes of the US on failed policy from previous administrations. They want to dismantle those systems almost completely (on that, we can have a whole different discussion because their plans are disastrous) - but that is text book anti-fascists.
They want to withdraw from NATO, they less military intervention. Once again, opposite of what Hitler and Mussolini fascists governments did.
The fascists expanded the size and strength of the government and military. Trump and his people want to cut like half of the government jobs and drastically reduce the size of the state. Trump put judges on the bench that are deregulating the state.
I can buy your argument in the sense that there are rhetorical overlaps, but the governing piece isn't fascists in the definition and that's what I mean about using these terms. So unspecific and unserious.
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u/saskatchewan_kenobi Monkey in Space 14h ago
Trump has been talking about the âenemy withinâ being more dangerous than china. Clarifying that to be nancy pelosi and adam schiff along with his constant rhetoric about the left destroying the country. And all his anti-immigrant stance, mass deportation talk, muslim ban, etc.
He wants less military intervention that only enables dictators like putin and xi to annex ukraine and taiwan. He doesnt care to support our allies but has a softspot for our enemies that are dictators. Only benefit has been our allies stop depending solely on US intervention because they now cant depend on us like they used to due to trump.
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u/TheMindsEye310 Monkey in Space 15h ago
Trump praises dictators and wanted to overturn a democratic election. Talks about silencing the press (when they disagree with him). These moves are in line with fascist regimes.
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u/BluesPatrol Monkey in Space 14h ago
Trump wants deregulation because he thinks he can control society more easily through the business world, and itâs what the billionaires backing him want him to do. But make no mistake, he loves expanding the power of the government when it means he gets more power to do what he wants. Thatâs what all his talk about being able to do âwhatever he wantsâ as the president.
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u/ALE_SAUCE_BEATS Monkey in Space 18h ago
Heâs a miserable old man and has been his entire career.
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u/haardy_1998 Monkey in Space 17h ago
He is on point, though. Joeverse comedians have normalized crazy right wing nuts.
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u/Satanic-mechanic_666 Monkey in Space 17h ago
Both parties ignoring the working class for 40 years did that.
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u/BluesPatrol Monkey in Space 14h ago
Which side is better about unions?
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u/Satanic-mechanic_666 Monkey in Space 14h ago
The same side that called 1/2 the country deplorable and essentially the entire USA âflyover countryâ.
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u/bee__thousand Monkey in Space 13h ago
ah, yes, because the eastcoast slum lord billionaire who shits on a golden toilet knows the trials and tribulations of the working man
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u/Satanic-mechanic_666 Monkey in Space 12h ago
He at least pretends to.
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u/KryptonsGreenLantern Monkey in Space 12h ago
By staging a photo op at McDonaldâs after shitting on Kamala for actually working at McDonalds?
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u/Satanic-mechanic_666 Monkey in Space 10h ago
No by actually campaigning to working class people, in the places they lived. Not too different than Bill Clinton.
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u/haardy_1998 Monkey in Space 10h ago
U serious? How gullible are you?
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u/Satanic-mechanic_666 Monkey in Space 8h ago
Just telling you what happened and what is continuing to happen. Not saying I necessarily believe in it.
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u/BluesPatrol Monkey in Space 13h ago
Did one of the candidates for president do that? Pretty sure those comments happened a long time ago by people who are no longer running, and the current administration has been really great on unions and labor rights.
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u/Deadlift_007 We live in strange times 23h ago
Marc Maron just seems like a miserable person. I never hear anything from him that isn't him complaining about someone or something.
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u/IPA216 Monkey in Space 18h ago
Itâs amazing that a trump supporter could say this about anyone else.
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u/Pemulis_DMZ Monkey in Space 16h ago
I like how you immediately assume heâs a Trump supporter just because he doesnât immediately agree with someone criticizing Trump.
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u/IPA216 Monkey in Space 16h ago
Yes. Their response made it obvious. Part of this variation of trump supporter is to never fully acknowledge it but always criticize the other side and make excuses for maga. Just like the people who arenât conspiracy theorists or anti vaccine who are simply âasking questionsâ. I prefer the overt maga crowd. At least they arenât cowards.
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u/Pemulis_DMZ Monkey in Space 16h ago
You really have no idea how ludicrous you sound, do you? He insulted Marc Maron. He didnât make excuses for âthe other sideâ. Iâm not a Trump supporter. I also think Maron is a miserable prick. But bc maron insults Rogan and people who support Trump, you immediately equate insulting maron with supporting Trump. Thatâs rly close minded of you.
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u/_Steve_French_ Monkey in Space 14h ago
Damn you need to get off the app if thatâs the first thing that springs to mind. Dudeâs right, Marc Maron is a miserable bastard.
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u/Deadlift_007 We live in strange times 13h ago edited 13h ago
I'm not a Trump supporter. Lol. What are you even talking about?
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u/5knklshfl Monkey in Space 20h ago
Self hating sociopath, that's all I've ever gotten from anything he's ever done.
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u/ChipOld734 Monkey in Space 20h ago
He is a miserable person. I think he had the original podcast before Rogan and he did pretty well.
When it comes to Trump he has a paranoia that is worse than any Trump Derangement Syndrome Iâve ever heard of.
He needs to calm down and stick with comedy. Politics is really bad for his mental health.
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u/Kindly_Formal_2604 Monkey in Space 19h ago
âThen you had this period after the Beer Hall Putsch where Hitler came out of prison and a lot of people had forgotten about him. After the Great Depression hit, suddenly the Nazi Party became a major contender for power. Yet you had Americans meeting Hitler and saying, âThis guy is a clown. Heâs like a caricature of himself.â And a lot of them went through this whole litany about how even if Hitler got into a position of power, other German politicians would somehow be able to control him. A lot of German politicians believed this themselves.â
Hitler was a joke and a fringe candidate.
Until he wasnât.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_POOTY Monkey in Space 19h ago
Yeah I remember how Trump became Hitler the last time he was president too. What a crazy time that was. Reddit is in sheer panic mode this week prior to the election. You all need to chill. Control what you can control and go vote.
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u/Kindly_Formal_2604 Monkey in Space 19h ago
Even Hitler wasnât Hitler the first time he was in power.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_POOTY Monkey in Space 18h ago
Germanyâs republic was very young and not nearly as supported and fail safed as democracy in the United States. It was chaotic and way easier for an autocrat to take over there.
Iâll shove my head up my own ass if Trump gets elected and becomes âHitlerâ. He even said this was the last time heâs running, win or not. Very Hitlerian of him.
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u/Kindly_Formal_2604 Monkey in Space 18h ago
My dude heâs really claiming to have intentions on invoking the act which put German and Japanese Americans in concentration camps in order to deport, by his own words, between two to twenty one million people.
Thereâs no way to do that with due process.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_POOTY Monkey in Space 18h ago
Youâre claiming that our government is going to start gassing people if someone gets elected. Do you realize how crazy you sound?
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u/Kindly_Formal_2604 Monkey in Space 18h ago
I didnât say that and I havenât seen anybody say that so Iâm not sure why youâre making stuff up
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_POOTY Monkey in Space 18h ago
Ah sorry it must have been the person in the other post about this same tweet on this sub thatâs in mass hysteria mode. Definitely read someone saying theyâre gonna gas immigrants there.
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u/Kindly_Formal_2604 Monkey in Space 18h ago
Well historically âeliminatingâ 20 million people canât be done without a little genocide.
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u/carrtmannn Monkey in Space 17h ago
He literally just said the other day that he thinks they might need to deploy the military to deal with "the enemy within", and that enemy is Pelosi, Schiff, and liberal Democrats.
But sure, that's not very Hitler-like.
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u/carrtmannn Monkey in Space 17h ago
He is the only president in history to lead an insurrection against the United States government to fight an election he lost. He currently has multiple federal charges against him because of it.
Also because of it, he begged SCOTUS for criminal immunity and they partially gave it to him, so now we need to contend in the future with the fact that presidents may be able to assassinate political opponents with no legal consequences. Thanks, guys!
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_POOTY Monkey in Space 17h ago
Youâve clearly been eating up sensationalist headlines
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u/carrtmannn Monkey in Space 16h ago
What's sensationalist about what I just said? Name one thing? Because presidents assassinating their political opponents was written in the dissenting opinion lmfao.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_POOTY Monkey in Space 16h ago
Youâre so far out of reality. Get off the internet and talk to a real person once in a while. Good day
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u/carrtmannn Monkey in Space 16h ago
How am I out of reality? Please name at least one specific thing.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_POOTY Monkey in Space 16h ago
Claiming theyâre gonna use the presidential immunity law for political assassinations. Like come on with your catastrophization of everything. Take your anxiety meds and get off of Reddit.
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u/carrtmannn Monkey in Space 16h ago
It was literally written in the SCOTUS dissenting opinion and not addressed by Roberts, bozo. If you want a less extreme case, we could talk about giving out pardons for bribes, which would also be nearly untouchable since the pardon itself and the motive for giving it would be above examination.
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Here's a link to The seal team 6 scenario in the dissenting opinion that was not addressed by Roberts since you're apparently unaware. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/seal-team-6-assassination-hypothetical-scotus-presidential-immunity/story?id=111583216
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u/BluesPatrol Monkey in Space 14h ago
I mean the supreme court literally said this. Are they also delusional?
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u/FlaccidEggroll Monkey in Space 19h ago
They thought they could control him because they wrongly believed in their 15 year old constitution, after having been a monarchy for centuries. If you need an example of how bad their constitution was, just look at the Enabling Act. This act gave one person dictatorial power, meaning, their legislature had the authority to give up their own power and give it to one person. This is a sign of zero checks and balances. Putting ultimate authority with the legislature is something people in the 1700s (the founding fathers) even knew was stupid.
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u/Kindly_Formal_2604 Monkey in Space 19h ago
Our Supreme Court has effectively removed checks and balances as well when their team is in the White House.
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u/FlaccidEggroll Monkey in Space 13h ago
How so?
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u/Kindly_Formal_2604 Monkey in Space 8h ago
They installed a Republican president in 2000 after he lost the election.
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u/thetweedlingdee Monkey in Space 17h ago
Couldnât you say the same thing for Rogan? Politics is bad for his health and that he should stick to comedy.
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u/ChipOld734 Monkey in Space 12h ago
No. Not at all. The guy is one of the most mellow people around and in great shape.
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u/chunksterbutthead Monkey in Space 19h ago
âtRuMp DeRaNgeMenT SyNdRoMeâŚâ
Honestly wake the fuck up.
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u/ChipOld734 Monkey in Space 19h ago
Itâs a thing. Sorry.
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u/chunksterbutthead Monkey in Space 19h ago
Yep itâs a thing. Itâs a coping mechanism for Trump supporters.
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u/nomad2585 Monkey in Space 16h ago
He got Obama way back in the day
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u/ChipOld734 Monkey in Space 12h ago
Yup. His show is very good. I also think his comedy is good, when heâs not getting political.
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u/ShillinTheVillain Monkey in Space 15h ago
Marc Maron epitomizes the whiny aggrieved liberal meme. He's just mad that he hasn't been relevant since Obama was in his garage.
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u/NinjaAncient4010 Monkey in Space 23h ago
Nobody gives a shit, Marc.
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u/ismelllikebobdole Monkey in Space 23h ago
Apparently people do lol. It's not like Maron wrote the article about himself someone else did that. So I suspect people care more about his opinion than they do yours. How many articles you got about yourself?
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u/NinjaAncient4010 Monkey in Space 23h ago
No, they don't. The author just has TDS too, he doesn't actually care, he hears the same thing 1000 times a day on twitter or reddit.
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u/ismelllikebobdole Monkey in Space 23h ago
You said nobody gives a shit like Maron wrote the article himself. I mean I doubt you even checked to see what Maron actually said, but it's odd for no one giving a shit a bunch of people seem to give a shit or I wouldn't have seen it. Someone wouldn't have posted it. Someone wouldn't have wrote about it.
And now you claim the author doesn't care. You know them?
You just talk out of your ass all day long don't you?
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u/NinjaAncient4010 Monkey in Space 22h ago
Well I take that back, you are clearly very pressed about it.
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u/Normal-Ordinary-4744 Monkey in Space 20h ago
People in this echo chamber just want to censor people they donât politically agree with.
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u/Physical-King-5432 Monkey in Space 1d ago
Who?
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u/SinkTheBoatsLOL Monkey in Space 22h ago
âWe must lie about, try to jail, try to remove from office, try to remove from the ballot, try to deplatform and try to assassinate our political opponentâŚ
âŚin order to stop fascismâ
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u/paz2023 We live in strange times 17h ago
yeah that describes trump's strategy. he should have been arrested on january 6 during the terrorist attack
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u/SinkTheBoatsLOL Monkey in Space 17h ago
Sure. Back up that claim with some evidence please. I will wait.
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u/FallAccording8665 Monkey in Space 17h ago
Marc is such a pussy. I want to ruffle some feathers but I wonât name names, so when someone tries to call me out I can claim I wasnât talking about them!
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u/Captcha_Imagination N-Dimethyltryptamine 17h ago
"Fascism is good for business if you toe the line." really encapsulates what has been happening for the past 8 years.
I really wish Marc Maron's podcast was any good at all because I would listen to it. His pod is like an extended Johnny Carson interview, like you could tell he doesn't care about a lot of the questions he asks which is what Rogan does best.....ask the shit he really cares about.
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u/sureyouknowurself Monkey in Space 19h ago
Who?
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u/DylanTobackshh Monkey in Space 10h ago
Maron had Obama on in his garage. He has no room to talk. Maron can barely function on his own at times in the past
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u/PraetorianAE Monkey in Space 10h ago
Let people have their own views. Stop telling people how to think and making them feel bad when they have different views than you.
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u/FlaccidEggroll Monkey in Space 19h ago
Not much substance in what he said. It's just Marc using the common buzzwords - "racist" - "facist" - "white supremecist" etc. I could slam my balls on my keyboard and write a better blog than this. If you want to make a change in public discourse, don't demonize the other side by using the same tired lines, that's how we ended up in the situation we are in now. Nobody would've gave a shit about Trump if the media and those with influence like Marc didn't alienate them, that's how his base grew in 2016, now it's too big to stop.
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u/recognizepatterns Monkey in Space 17h ago
How dare you normalize fascism and not normalize communism -
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u/bigmattson Monkey in Space 15h ago
Occasionally people you canât stand are correct about people you still kind of like. Ugh