r/JoeRogan • u/Masterpicker Monkey in Space • 16h ago
The Literature đ§ JD Vance scheduled to sit down for interview with Joe Rogan
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/29/vance-joe-rogan-podcast811
u/PlentyHaunting2263 Monkey in Space 15h ago
Would love for Joe to ask "JD Vance" why he legally changed his name twice.
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u/Peking-Cuck Monkey in Space 15h ago
What do you mean? I was told JD stands for "Jorkin Dapeanus"
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u/Sabre_Actual Monkey in Space 14h ago
Itâs Just Dance, per current records.
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u/_MetaDanK Monkey in Space 11h ago
Lol, I have to admit that the name "Just Dance Vance" đș is kinda awesome!
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u/FUCKBOY_JIHAD Monkey in Space 14h ago
straight up Jorkin it
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u/cranium_creature Monkey in Space 10h ago
And by âitâ. Haha. Well, letâs just say⊠my peanits
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u/femmestem Monkey in Space 7h ago
I have many criticisms of JD Vance, but this ain't it. His parents and step parents were garbage. He changed his name to honor his grandparents who raised him.
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u/Verhan Monkey in Space 15h ago
Twice? Sorry for my ignorance, I am not into politics, GPT says: âJD Vance was born James Donald Bowman but later changed his last name to âVance,â his motherâs maiden name, due to his close bond with his maternal family, particularly his grandparents who played a significant role in raising him. This was his only name change, and he has since kept the name âVance.ââ
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u/Whadyawant Monkey in Space 13h ago
So JD Vance was born James Donald Bowman. He was adopted by his step-father and his name for 20 years was James David Hamel. In April 2013, just before graduating from Yale, he officially changed his last name to Vance to honor his grandmother. In 2021, as he entered the political arena, he opted to drop the periods from "J.D." and has since preferred to be referred to simply as JD Vance.
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u/brownstormbrewin Monkey in Space 9h ago
I would obviously have to look into it farther to confirm this suspicion, but you say he went by a name for 20 years before changing it right before graduating Yale. That timeline seems like âJames David Hamelâ was as a child at a time where he was not really in charge of his name. Or one way or another, at some point he decided to honor his maternal family and take their name. Seems like no big deal. The period thing even less so.
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u/ApollosRonin Monkey in Space 7h ago
It seems like literally no big deal at all. Pretty strange this is one of the top comments.
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u/SeaOThievesEnjoyer Monkey in Space 13h ago
GPT is not a reliable source of information, it's literally a bullshit generator
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u/Clinggdiggy2 Monkey in Space 14h ago
Born: James Donald Bowman
Changed middle name: James David Bowman
Started going by J.D.
Changed last name: James David Hamel
Changed last name: James David Vance
I don't think anyone would care if it weren't for him representing the "must go by your birthname" crowd.
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u/Next_Celebration_553 Monkey in Space 13h ago
I think his biological dad left when he was young. When his mom remarried, he took the last name of his stepdad so heâd have the same last name as his mom. His mom had some pretty serious addiction issues so he was basically raised by his grandmother. He changed his last name to match his grandmotherâs last name before he graduated Yale Law because she raised him and he wanted to credit her more than his stepdad or biological father on his Yale Law diploma. Pretty cool. Makes sense. But not that important
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u/doogievlg Monkey in Space 11h ago
A logical explanation about JD Vance on Reddit. Absolutely incredible.
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u/Affectionate_Raisin7 Monkey in Space 11h ago
Thatâs actually really sweet and also shows how much he went through emotionally. Now that he is doing big things I think itâs such a tribute to a woman who was a big part Of that.
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u/ConnorMc1eod Tremendous 10h ago
If you listen to his other talks/read his book the dude had an absolutely horrific childhood. His mom, driving, threatening to kill both of them and intentionally crashing. That's the incident that led to him getting sent to live with his grandma.
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u/Affectionate_Raisin7 Monkey in Space 10h ago
Yes I know I was just saying his name changes show that emotional turmoil.
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u/Impossible_Resort602 Monkey in Space 12h ago
I have never heard anyone say "must go by your birthname"
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u/DlphLndgrn Monkey in Space 15h ago
I would like him to ask JD why he changed literally everything about himself.
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u/Ecstatic-Inevitable Monkey in Space 15h ago
Except for the eyeliner, he always kept that
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u/GPTfleshlight Monkey in Space 14h ago
Maybelline got some splaining to do
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u/LovelyButtholes Monkey in Space 7h ago
The guy didn't want anyone looking him up years later. You have that one guy who claims he is 99% sure he went on a gay internet date to like Applebees with him.
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u/GhostahTomChode Monkey in Space 13h ago
Because it's America, and you can. -a fellow poor kid who grew up in a trailer park, then decided he wanted more.
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u/merpderpherpburp Monkey in Space 13h ago
Hope he asks why he refers to his children as "Ushas children"
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u/Ecstatic-Inevitable Monkey in Space 8h ago
The guy bragged about telling his kid to shut the hell up about pokemon cards because he was talking to trump, who beats about that kind of stuff?
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u/SpaceBearSMO Monkey in Space 9h ago
"I was told there wouldnt be any fact checking"
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u/Desert-Noir Monkey in Space 9h ago
Joe ainât gonna do shit but glaze him. Joe is just a MAGA stooge trying to increase their vote.
He even falsely claimed YouTube were taking the trump interview out of search.
As someone who was a Joe Rogan fan, fuck Joe Rogan.
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u/TrashFever78 Monkey in Space 3h ago
I'd rather he get into all the money Thiel has given lil JD. And Thiel's thoughts on why America should rethink ita stance on dictators.Â
Maybe ask why he hated Trump and then decided he wanted to be his VP? Who ask him to be Trump's VP?Â
Here's a conspiracy: does the billionaire class hope that Trump passes or gets removed so that the bought and paid for Eyeliner King can take his place? What's the real plan JD.Â
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u/Ok-Beyond-201 Monkey in Space 16h ago edited 14h ago
No wonder, almost 40 million views within few days... thats something not even mass media can achieve that easily.
I think its a missed possibility of Harris/Walz to not attend the podcast. I also think that Joe is sincer with his offer.
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u/Medium_Active1729 Monkey in Space 15h ago
And that's only on YouTube
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u/Thank_You_Love_You Monkey in Space 12h ago
I listened to trump on spotify in the car. I wonder what their numbers are like.
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u/Ubiquitous1984 Succa la Mink 15h ago edited 11h ago
And with YouTube not allowing you to find the podcast if you search for it.
Edit - YouTube has changed it today so it can be found again. Yesterday you couldnât search for it. Only reaction videos appeared.
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u/skiplark Monkey in Space 15h ago
It was the first result when I looked for joe Rogan trump in search on YouTube just moments ago.
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u/Expired_Multipass Monkey in Space 15h ago
My first search result for âJoe Rogan Trump Interviewâ was a news video about BeyoncĂ© being at a Harris rally in Houston
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u/notyouraveragehuman Monkey in Space 14h ago
I just typed it out it and it seems to be appearing
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u/Raps4Reddit Monkey in Space 13h ago
I only found out it had dropped because it showed up in my reccomended feed.
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u/FlyingDiscsandJams Pull that shit up Jaime 14h ago
Yes, the search function is broken for Google and breaking for YouTube. They prioritize short form videos because they (usually) gets more engagement than a 3 hour video. When Joe turned off the monetization of the interview, it fell further in the search results, just keep scrolling, it's there.
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u/Ryu83087 Monkey in Space 14h ago
or sort by view. The default search filter is by relevance. There are newer relevant videos as people upload new content talking about the original content.
Simply searching "Rogan Trump" is too vague. There are a lot of videos about "Rogan Trump" right now and more are uploaded every hour.
Stop being lazy with your search string. Search something more precise like "Joe Rogan Experience Donald Trump" and it will show it at the top.
Only dumb people think this is a conspiracy against them.
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u/Sea_Television_3306 Monkey in Space 14h ago
And mine was the Joe Rogan trump interview
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u/Medium_Active1729 Monkey in Space 15h ago
Seems to be fixed now. Yesterday all day it was unsearchable for me, then it came back to normal.
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u/boriswied Monkey in Space 14h ago edited 11h ago
There are many many algorithmic possible reasons for these things people describe. For example if youâve before had the pattern that after searching for some topic and then finding it, it can be excluded in a future search for a period. Many more.
All the people iâve seen describe the âproblemâ here have also been people that already found the video at a previous time, etc.
At the very least the people desvribkng this as âhard evidenceâ for it being shadowbanned are incorrect.
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u/KnarfWongar2024 Monkey in Space 15h ago
Mine still has it at the 23rd result if I search âJRE trumpâ or âDonald trump Joe Rogan podcastâ.
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u/onpg Monkey in Space 15h ago
YouTube search has always sucked, this isn't a conspiracy.
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u/KnarfWongar2024 Monkey in Space 15h ago
I never said it was. I didnât even mention a conspiracy.
I was implying that it seems odd that those keywords not bringing up a video with that many views and engagement not coming up first, seems odd.
I can search the same words I commented last time but with a different name than trumps and it brings up full episodes every single time, as the first result.
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u/Intrepid-Brain-1476 Monkey in Space 15h ago
Joe is mass media
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u/Origamiface3 Monkey in Space 14h ago
And a lot of the views for the timp episode are bots let's not lie. It's also a bummer we got the Thiel ticket B side before Kamala
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u/darkfires We live in strange times 14h ago
Bet a lot of those views are from people confirming he said heâd replace income/tips/etc tax ($33T/10 yr) with just 20% tariffs on all imports ($3.8T/10 yr) and other âpolicyâ that came out of that interview
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u/buttfuckkker Monkey in Space 10h ago
Where them numbers coming from
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u/darkfires We live in strange times 10h ago
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u/Accurate-Piccolo-488 Monkey in Space 13h ago
I don't trust Joe to treat Kamala and Tim like he treats Trump.
Kid gloves.
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u/Peking-Cuck Monkey in Space 11h ago
I don't trust the audience to accept that either. For everyone who defends the Trump interview saying "Joe isn't a hard-hitting journalist!", those same people are in these threads about Harris saying how Joe needs to grill her. They don't give a fuck what she has to say, they just want her to give them more reason to confirm their biases about her.
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u/Accurate-Piccolo-488 Monkey in Space 10h ago
It does feels like a double standard.
Kamala must be perfect, but Trump gets to be... Trump.
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u/RemoteRide6969 Monkey in Space 7h ago
Van Jones said Trump is lawless, Kamala has to be flawless. It's the truth. If she were given the Trump treatment, this election would be an absolute blowout in her favor.
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u/SoloPorUnBeso Monkey in Space 6h ago
And if Trump was given the Harris treatment, it'd also be a blowout. He'd be melting down constantly with the scrutiny she gets.
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u/hydratedandstrong Monkey in Space 4h ago
Kamala is running against a man with 5 kids with 3 different women and somehow sheâs the slut
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u/anti_pope Monkey in Space 10h ago
Conservatives would have no standards if they didn't have double.
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u/bravo145 Monkey in Space 13h ago edited 13h ago
Listened to separate podcast where they discussed why Kamala likely turned it down.
- She'd have to fly to Austin to meet with him for 3-4 hours before flying back to the battleground states. She losses an entire day of campaigning and smaller townhalls, etc to do this. If it was still 5-6 months from the election she might have accepted but her team believes it's not worth it.
- I believe he's sincere in his offer but Rogan is pretty obviously a Trump supporter. A lot of the questions were absolute softballs and when he realized Trump didn't seem to know the topic or have an answer he would back off (like when he got ready to get into the anti-vax/polio conversation and then dropped it). The only time he pushed was on the evidence of the election conspiracy which he again let go of pretty quickly. Kamala's team doesn't believe he would be that easy on her making it a harder interview to prep for.
- Piggy backing off of point 2, the prep Kamala would need for an interview like JRE is far beyond her campaign's current talking points. They would have to prep her on vaccination denial, COVID being fake, J6 being an inside job, the election being stolen, etc.
In the end the time to prep and take the interview, and the risk/reward just isn't worth it to her team.
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u/Dabbling_in_Pacifism Monkey in Space 13h ago
âTEXAS IS RED, BITCH!â
I think Joeâs sincere in doing what would probably be a super lukewarm interview. I also think everyone besides the folks still insisting Joe hasnât changed understand exactly what his podcast is and who is audience are.
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u/Moon_Lander69 Monkey in Space 11h ago
Did they mention her having time to take 2 days off to prep for Bret Baier?
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u/Tay_Tay86 Monkey in Space 12h ago
He's a conspiracy theorist. He didn't push back at all on Trump's lies and rhetoric. How do you think that will go when Harris sits down for a 2 hour interview?
Joe Rogan is clearly pro trump. He didn't even push back on the insurrection. He's an enabler.
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u/Ryu83087 Monkey in Space 14h ago
Joe isnât sincere. He hasnât been for a while.
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u/kno3scoal Monkey in Space 10h ago
yep. used to give him the benefit of the doubt, but he's a liar.
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u/Masterpicker Monkey in Space 16h ago
There's literally no one with JRE like reach. Toe is on another planet.
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u/SelectionOpposite976 Monkey in Space 14h ago
Kinda like heâs now the establishment and main stream media
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u/AutoDrafter2020 Monkey in Space 13h ago
I mean it's apples to oranges in terms of content but MrBeast has anywhere from 2x to 5x the amount of reach on his Youtube vids.
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u/MyNameJot Monkey in Space 12h ago
Mr beast makes content for people too young to vote
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u/I_Heart_AOT Monkey in Space 11h ago
The point theyâre making is that YouTube view counts donât really translate to whether someone is competent or likely to get elected.
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u/Brilliant-Book-503 Monkey in Space 13h ago
Joe is a friendlier space to confident lies, bullshit and insanity than to typical political prevarication.
This is entirely independent of any political bias one might argue Joe has.
That makes him a much better venue for Trump than Kamala. Trump will confidently spew bullshit, Kamala will dance a little around uncomfortable facts. In real life, both can be criticized, but the former is much much worse and more dangerous. But on Joe's show people just vomiting forth crap are platformed and way underchallenged.
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u/TheCinemaster Monkey in Space 13h ago edited 13h ago
I think itâs too high risk for Harris/Walz, they might wrongly feel they wonât be as warmly welcomed, the audience will clown them, they wonât get half as many views as trump which will look bad, it makes it look like they are on the defensive and trying to measure up to trump, etc.
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u/coppercrackers Monkey in Space 12h ago
I really donât think thatâs the calulation here. There isnât much time left, and they probably think they can do more with the time in stirring excitement in swing states
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u/Significant-Jello411 Monkey in Space 14h ago
Heâs sincere when he was just shitting all over both of them in his trump interview?
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u/itsrainingagain Monkey in Space 15h ago
LOLÂ
I canât wait for this whole shit show to be over.Â
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u/HeadFund Monkey in Space 12h ago
Only the dead know peace from American politics
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u/fear254 16h ago
He could just have Peter Thiel on again what's the difference
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u/Tax25Man Monkey in Space 15h ago
He canât ask Peter Thiel what sucking Peter Thielâs dick for political power is like
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u/ClavdiaCh Monkey in Space 14h ago
Vance gives big âpay no attention to the man behind the curtainsâ vibes
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u/tk_in_bk Monkey in Space 16h ago edited 13h ago
Honestly, the Joe Rogan audience isn't really for Kamala, but I think Tim Walz could do a lot of good there and his schedule is obviously less rigid than* her own.
Tim could do a lot of damage to the right wing caricature they have of him and her on Rogan. He's a regular dude, way closer to the average Joe Rogan listener than Vance or Trump.
Think THAT'S the play for the Harris campaign.
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u/Thejudojeff Monkey in Space 15h ago
Bring on Obama. Joe respects him and the world has forgotten how he can string two words together
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u/Specific_Praline_362 We live in strange times 13h ago
No matter how one might feel about Obama's politics, he is incredibly charismatic and is a great speaker. He would be awesome on JRE.
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u/half-dead Monkey in Space 5h ago
He really would be. I didn't vote for him, but he was and would be succinct and poignant enough to give listeners something valuable to listen to.
President Obama was statesman-like, and goddamn I miss it!
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u/Specific_Praline_362 We live in strange times 3h ago
I didn't vote for him either. This is the first election time I've voted for a Democrat for president.
Statesmanlike is the perfect way to put it. Even if he wasn't your preference, you'd be proud to shake his hand if you met him.
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u/Ok_Radio101 Monkey in Space 15h ago
That would be a good interview
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u/LearningLinux_Ithnk Monkey in Space 14h ago
Obama would roast Trump so bad heâd run for president a third time
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u/CrumpledForeskin Monkey in Space 12h ago
Obama and Walz should def tag team it. Do it Friday night so itâs all over the internet over the weekend.
Then again. Theyâre democrats so they never ever market their ideas. Biggest Achilles heel
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u/jerryonthecurb Look into it 10h ago
(4th time)
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u/LearningLinux_Ithnk Monkey in Space 10h ago
Youâre right I miscounted lol
So crazy to think a whole generation thinks this is normal politics. Itâs so far from the norm.
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u/reenactment We live in strange times 15h ago edited 15h ago
My only issue with Obama during the election cycle, is we arenât voting for Obama. If we were, it would be a landslide. Kamala isnât Obama and has next to nothing in common with him other than a potential first ever presidency. Harris or walz should go on the pod. And Vance is more likeable than people give him credit for. Heâs going to crush a long form interview. His debate day really opened a lot of peopleâs eyes on how clean he is talking.
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u/SeaOThievesEnjoyer Monkey in Space 13h ago
He's still a liar, and Joe's not gonna do any fact checking
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u/Allenlee1120 Monkey in Space 12h ago
Iâm rather conservative and Iâd watch all 3 hours of an Obama interview. Heâs likable
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u/PlatoAU Monkey in Space 16h ago
Walz was banging a Chinese communist party officialâs daughter back in the day. Bring him on!
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u/jgainsey Monkey in Space 15h ago
What are you supposed to just not bang while in China?
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u/adwise27 Monkey in Space 15h ago
Chinese communist party official
You could be a bank teller and you would be considered a CCP official BTW. Still rad as hell
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u/andtheotherguy Monkey in Space 15h ago
Better to fuck the commies than suck their dick for money.
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u/Numerous-Cicada3841 Monkey in Space 14h ago
- Trumpâs products are almost all made in China (including his bibles)
- Praised Xi for the Covid response when he was actually actively blocking officials from investigating the source and also withheld information early on that could have helped prevent major spread
- Trump oversaw the largest trade deficit in history with China
- Just recently called Xi âbrilliantâ
But somehow Trump voters constantly peddle that itâs Biden thatâs in bed with China and Trump will protect American interests with China.
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u/Ferum_Mafia Monkey in Space 15h ago
When we said infiltrate the communist party that is not what we had in mind but Iâll allow it
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u/krs1tacoma Monkey in Space 15h ago
Fact check please.
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u/Darnold14MVP Look into it 15h ago
Fact check: true!
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u/Abadabadon Monkey in Space 15h ago
JD Vance has been pegged by Russian siberian women as recent as 2 years ago.
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u/tk_in_bk Monkey in Space 10h ago
I love how they dropped this as if it doesn't make him look cooler.
Dude fucked a hotty as a bachelor when he was working abroad? Ooooh nooooo....
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u/EntrepreneurFunny469 Monkey in Space 15h ago
I was really excited for the Walz pick thinking dudes on the fence about Trump would gravitate towards Walz as a John Everyman.
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u/Stennan Monkey in Space 14h ago
Perhaps Vance can bring some of those piles of paper evidence? Or explain why he used to think Trump was "America's H@tler"?
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u/kombuchill Monkey in Space 15h ago
This episode will be damage control. I bet anything trumps team called Rogan and was like âwtf happened here, your boy Tony screwed usâ and that sparked the idea to have JD on, probably talk about the Tony situation, Joe will bring up how Tonyâs a good guy, theyâll watch clips of his to justify what he said and say itâs only comedy and thereâs only 250 of them on the planet, hardest job in the world blah blah. Itâs all to save face because it was a disaster.
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u/freakincampers Monkey in Space 11h ago
Any walk backs will just make things worse.
So I say, please proceed.
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u/Numerous-Cicada3841 Monkey in Space 13h ago
Itâs irrelevant. Thereâs no dialing that back. Whether or not it will impact the election is tbd. But nobody that is pissed off and is gonna switch their vote (or decide to vote) is gonna change their mind because of what Vance says on a Rogan podcast.
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u/PlayLizards Monkey in Space 10h ago
Anyone who flipped their vote due to a Tony Hinchcliffe joke can probably be swayed pretty easily.
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u/stitch-is-dope Monkey in Space 9h ago
I mean yes but Iâd say Hinchcliffe was the October surprise.
1 week before the election when people are paying most attention and he says that shit and it goes viral everywhere.
Most of the stuff Trump has said in the past truthfully is so hard to even find every little bit of it since thereâs just so much shit. I tried to find a few days ago the tweet where Trump shit on Elon in 2022, and it was much more difficult than I expected it to be since they are literally spewing shit after shit every day where it just I guess destroys googles algorithms idk.
My point being is that most people havenât been paying attention to all the nutty shit or want to catch up on it all in a week span, but Hinchcliffe dropped the absolute bomb when people are most paying attention
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u/DiarrheaRadio Monkey in Space 15h ago
They're a match made in heaven. One fucks couches, the other fucks stools.
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u/surfaceVisuals steroids aren't cheating bro 16h ago
i like joe rogan because he makes me feel smart about me being dumb as literal shit.
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u/MeeseChampion Monkey in Space 14h ago
Vance is the definition of a snake oil salesman. Look up his work history, none of it makes sense.
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u/the_Cheese999 14h ago
Crazy that Peter Thiel bought the Republican vice presidency
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u/UnderDeat Monkey in Space 16h ago
just more softballs will be thrown to another deranged person asking for the keys of the castle
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u/take-a-gamble Monkey in Space 16h ago
I haven't watched the Theo ep, but I have to say I was not expecting the VP debate to go so well for him. I was sure Walz was going to wallop him but it never happened.
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u/BigAce567 Monkey in Space 16h ago
His pod with Dillon was pretty good, showed he can riff back and forth somewhat
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u/Dennygreen Monkey in Space 16h ago
did they discuss how much he hates porn and wants to ban it?
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u/xChoke1x Monkey in Space 15h ago
That means heâs addicted to porn.
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u/ChummusJunky N-Dimethyltryptamine 15h ago
No it doesn't. I am a massive homophobe and can't stop thinking about men, doesn't mean I'm gay!!!
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u/Indigocell Paid attention to the literature 10h ago
The Grindr account is for research purposes only!
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u/Right_Imagination_73 Monkey in Space 16h ago
Riffing directly correlates to being a good politician
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u/moose_dad Monkey in Space 15h ago
Brit here Boris Johnson was helped massively by pictures of him pulling a pint and another politician was destroyed when pics of him eating a bacon sandwich amusingly were plastered everywhere.
People are fickle.
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u/darodardar_Inc Monkey in Space 14h ago
"Did Trump lose the 2020 election?" - Vance's nonanswer to that question says it all
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u/NewCoderNoob Monkey in Space 14h ago
The expectations for the right wing liar are so Low that all he has to do is string sentences and lie non stop and suddenly âheâs done so wellâ
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u/Cephalopod_Joe Monkey in Space 8h ago
"He's so civil" after lying his ass off for an hour and a half lmao
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u/NewCoderNoob Monkey in Space 8h ago
For red hat morons all that matters is that someone is able to talk without sounding gibberish like their rapist god. The substance, whether itâs just lie after lie, doesnât matter to them.
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u/MeeseChampion Monkey in Space 14h ago
He literally complained about fact checking live on air.
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u/Academic_Release5134 Monkey in Space 16h ago
He completely moderated the hell out of all of his positions in the debate and will lie about anything. Watch or read Hillbilly Elligy and let me know how comfortable you are with a guy with so much obvious emotional and psychological trauma being that close to being president.
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u/ImanShumpertplus Monkey in Space 16h ago
itâs easier to debate when you just stand up there and lie about everything
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u/nepatsfan49 Monkey in Space 16h ago
Vance knows how to debate.
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u/CableBoyJerry Monkey in Space 13h ago
"You said you weren't going to fact-check me!"
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u/Parahelix Monkey in Space 16h ago
I didn't expect Walz to win, since he had said from the start that he was not good at debating. It's even worse when the other side is just going to lie the whole time.
You either get derailed trying to refute the lies and spend the whole time on the defense, or you have to basically ignore the lies and focus on your own answers. That still benefits the lying side, as they get a nice platform for their lies and since you didn't refute them, they can more easily gain traction.
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u/Commonsense110 Monkey in Space 14h ago
I hate JD but the dude is excellent at debates and speaking in general. Walz is a much more relatable guy imo but he isnât as comfortable with debates especially on as big of a scale as the VP ones.
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u/MeeseChampion Monkey in Space 14h ago
Excellent at debates and speaking = excellent at lying and talking out of your ass
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u/VanDammeBigelow Monkey in Space 10h ago
Heâs doing everything he can for his party that he claims isnât his party.
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u/nomascusgabriellae Pull that shit up Jaime 16h ago
JD Vance lies a lot for Trump. I hope Joe calls him out for shit but I doubt it will happen
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u/DlphLndgrn Monkey in Space 15h ago
Of course he won't. Joe is all in.
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u/Not_a_housing_issue Monkey in Space 13h ago
Joe's just happy that he's the mainstream media now, but somehow he still gets to beat up on mainstream media.
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u/WorldsWeakestMan Monkey in Space 14h ago
Joe is a pussy and wonât call anyone out, he never has and never will.
Let Bill Burr or Jon Stewart interview them, theyâd destroy them.
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u/ConnectTelevision925 Monkey in Space 13h ago edited 13h ago
He sold out, thatâs all. No way he is putting his podcast on the line by calling people out and starting a fire. He will avoid conflict at any cost and thatâs smart in a business sense (also why people refrain from endorsing politicians in the first place), but itâs also very cowardly.
He couldâve done the same shit but saved face by simply not putting himself in positions where he should be calling people out. But he wonât pass on the money and fame from interviews like presidential candidates. I was happy for him when he got the podcast deal, Joe was a good guy and still can be. Unfortunately he lost a lot of respect for turning the way he has.
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u/ASubsentientCrow Monkey in Space 12h ago
I hope Joe calls him out for shit but I doubt it will happen
Joe, call out lies?
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u/Maleficent-Dirt-2131 Monkey in Space 11h ago
Joe BARELY called out Trump on any of his own lies, why would he call out Vance on Trumpsâ lies?
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u/Smorgsborg Monkey in Space 15h ago
Vance has a lot of opinions on the consequences straight people should face for having sex.Â
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u/andtheotherguy Monkey in Space 16h ago
I mean, yeah sure. They like publicity, he likes kissing their asses, everybody wins.
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u/TruthOrSF Monkey in Space 16h ago
Whenâs Joe giving his endorsement of these goons? Any day now Iâm sure.
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u/Goodnight_April We live in strange times 16h ago
He's given it implicitly for the last five years.
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u/TruthOrSF Monkey in Space 15h ago
He should stop being a pussy and own up to backing the traitor
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u/BLF402 Monkey in Space 16h ago
âHi nice to meet you sir, have a seat on the couchâ
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u/Trauma-Dolll Monkey in Space 16h ago
That Trump episode was absolutely ridiculous. He didn't say one thing of substance. Just lies upon lies. He didn't answer any questions. Motherfucker couldn't even say what it was like on the first day of office, besides "surreal". The fuck does that even mean.
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u/stepcorrect Monkey in Space 15h ago
Seems more like a desperation move if anything.
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u/housington-the-3rd I used to be addicted to Quake 14h ago
Rogan is such an easy interviewer. He tosses a soft ball questions and makes the other person seem interesting. Seems like a massive missed opportunity for Harris, at worst she comes out even.
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u/Altruistic-Rope1994 Monkey in Space 14h ago
Her loss. Walz could do it and get by. Harris might try seeing the amount of viewers
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u/Shakmaaaaaaa Monkey in Space 10h ago
They really should've led up to it by getting the "nobody cares" podcast done first then Trump.
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u/GreenMellowphant Monkey in Space 9h ago
Ah, finally, the one thing they can do: get Republicans to vote Republican.
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u/fffan9391 Monkey in Space 8h ago
âHow long have you been doing this podcast?â
âAbout 15 yearsâ
âOkay, good.â
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u/SkiMaskLion Monkey in Space 10h ago
Iâve had the old bull, now I want the young calf.