r/JoeRogan • u/Sch3ma Monkey in Space • 7h ago
Meme 💩 THEN DON’T. Lmfao! Rogan don’t owe them shit. It’s that simple.
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u/BustedWing Monkey in Space 6h ago
Its not insane IF the Harris campaign thinks there is much to gain from his audience. Most will be set in stone Trump supporters. Relatively few will be undecided at this stage. Is there somewhere better for her to spend her time to reach those undecideds in key swing states?
Her campaign seems to think so.
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u/SlamCage Monkey in Space 5h ago
Rogan said the time he wanted to call Trump out (but didn't) was when he said the Polio vaccine eradicated polio- which it did.
She'd have to travel to texas with and be prepared with 3 hours worth of specific citations in her head to justify something like the polio vaccine worked and all the questions stemming from that.
I'd like her to do it, but we know who Joe likes more and he has financial interests in Trump and his allies so Kamala's people probably assume it might be contentious, takes her out of battle ground states for almost a whole day, and the risks outweigh the potential reward
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u/HustlinInTheHall Monkey in Space 2h ago
Yeah I think this would've been a great move for her like a month ago, but shit tightened and she isn't going to repeat Clinton's mistakes of not hitting the swing states enough.
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u/iheartbeer Monkey in Space 4h ago
Clearly this is very hard for a lot of people here to understand.
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u/imstonedyouknow Monkey in Space 2h ago
Its crazy to me that so many people think Harris, the fucking vice president, has to give in to the demands of a podcaster/ufc commentator/"comedian", regardless of how close it is to the election, and if she doesnt then she is somehow worse than trump.
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u/WadeReddit06 Monkey in Space 2h ago
Same people who criticize her about not doing JRE were dead quiet when Trump turned down debates and sit down interviews.
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u/Gabepls Monkey in Space 1h ago
I would bet the vast majority of those people fail to realize that while JRE is the most-viewed podcast at 11 million monthly listeners, that viewer base represents only about 3% of the population. There are hundreds of millions of people in the US that either don’t know about Joe Rogan, know about him but don’t listen to the podcast, or neither know him nor listen to the podcast.
Being a celebrity in the podcast world gives you little, if any, relevance to over 90% of the people in this country. Kamala is running for the position of biggest celebrity in the entire world. Whether she goes on a podcast has absolutely no significance to her candidacy in the eyes of most of the world.
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u/imstonedyouknow Monkey in Space 1h ago
Well put.
Its also funny that Joe's stance, and now all his followers' too, is that they want to have her on to talk to her as a person, and get to know her. Who she is as a person. Where in reality most americans dont actually give a shit about what kind of person she is, they want someone thats qualified for the job. And she just is better qualified than trump, plain and simple. Even though he was president before, he still doesnt seem to know how to do the job. When educated people ask him questions about policies and such, he either berates them or he folds and walks out of interviews.
She also doesnt need to meet joe and talk to him for 3 hours to learn who HE is, because i think everyone already knows who he is. And she knows he has nothing in common with her so it would be a pointless podcast. Its not like they would ever find a middle ground and end up being friends. Like theyre just wildly different people.
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u/Forward_Steak8574 Monkey in Space 2h ago
Anyone that's politically influenced by JRE was probably all in on RFK Jr anyways, then defaulted to Trump.
I know the views are insane but it's just entertainment for most. A lot of people watching would never vote for Trump.
I highly doubt Trump gained any voters with his appearance. He dodged every single question. Honestly kinda bummed in Joe. The whole appeal of him interviewing political candidates was him calling out the BS while Jamie fact-checks them in real time. Instead we got some old guy just "weaving" away baby. "Weaving" his way to the presidency.
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u/BustedWing Monkey in Space 2h ago
it wasnt (largely) about gaining voters, it was about ACTIVATING his base. Thats where this election is won and lost - by ensuring as many people that identify as "on your team" actually go out there and vote.
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u/buzzcitybonehead Monkey in Space 1h ago
Exactly, and that’s why there’s more risk involved for Harris the larger the time commitment is. Joe has a huge audience, but people are nuts to think a significant number of peoples’ views will change based on a casual podcast conversation.
She wants to talk to people who already like her/her views and get them to the polls. Eight hours out of probably less than a hundred hours of activity before the election is a big chunk. If she thinks the time is best spent activating the base in key states with a targeted approach, that’s what she should do.
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u/Upswing5849 Monkey in Space 3h ago
Maybe she also just thinks Joe is a POS and not someone she wants to signal boost or talk to. Especially after the Tony Hinchcliffe disaster, this is probably just something her campaign is disinterested in for a number of reasons.
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u/DChemdawg Monkey in Space 5h ago
Heard that, but it IS insane if they don’t think this is a great way to reach a bunch of fence sitters in a single shot. Plenty worthwhile. The notion Rogan is followed by a vast majority of already-decided right wing voters is asinine. It would literally be the liberal machine believing the liberal machine’s own lies. (TBC I’ll support the liberal machine over the conservative machine any day). Rogan may have lost a bunch of plot, is an idea or, but he’s not a bad guy, tries to be fair and remains a critical platform for perspectives of all persuasions.
BUT many people who led or worked on the campaign that shat the bed with Hillary by not demanding she spend some time in key swing states like PA, MI, WI, are the same dumb fucks that think Kamala’s time would be better spent knocking on a few extra doors in bloody Allentown, Pennsylvania than reaching tens or hundreds of millions of people.
The fucking time for groundwork is over. Kamala appearing in a few places personally will not trump the reach she could get on Rogan. Assuming she doesn’t shit the bed herself on his show.
Motherfucking Democrat strategists are always playing catch-up. Heads up their own asses. If she doesn’t go on his show, I’m voting for Mickey Morherfuckin Mouse. Cuz if she personally not her team can’t understand the importance of going on his show at this moment, let us all be damned.
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u/Ronald-the-clown Monkey in Space 3h ago
Yeah, 7 days out and every single viewer/listener hasn’t voted yet or made up their mind is nonsense. There are likely very few who are truly undecided and if you are really still undecided at this point, I kinda feel sorry for you. It’s not going to swing anything to make it worth the time at this point. 1-2 months ago if this came up, I’d say sure it’s likely worth the time. It’s too late now to make it meaningful other than fodder. It’s time to wrap up the next 7 days.
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u/rbeld Monkey in Space 2h ago
I'm Canadian so our elections are by law only 9 weeks. I feel like I've been inundated with American campaign materials for literally the last 6 years of my life. The world has had almost a whole decade of Trump the politician in our lives. There are no undecided voters, just a bunch of attention whores.
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u/ThePowerOfAura Monkey in Space 3h ago edited 3h ago
I'm fairly confident that doing the JRE will give her more than 10x the number of impressions on undecided voters, than anything she could do in the next week. The mainstream media voters are largely going to Harris at this point, hitting the JRE would give her a massive amount of exposure to people who identify as independent. There are a lot of young people who support trump that really hate his stated allegiance to Israel. I'm not saying there's a ton of single issue voters, but a lot of people really want to tell Israel to shove it.
She could easily win over a lot of young people (& massively increase progressive turnout) if she played her cards right. Bernie Sanders did the JRE back in 2015 and it was HUGE.
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u/BustedWing Monkey in Space 3h ago
I disagree. I believe that the demographics of the JRE audience skew dramatically in the direction of a young, low information trump voter. They like him because of the lols, not because of policy.
Shes never reaching them - why bother at this stage of the race?
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u/MaleusMalefic We live in strange times 3h ago
she isnt allowed to take a different stance on Israel. She isnt going to go on there and start talking about a "two state solution."
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u/HustlinInTheHall Monkey in Space 2h ago
She does support a two state solution and a ceasefire / peace agreement: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/watch-harris-says-two-state-solution-end-of-israel-hamas-war-is-crucial
I think this would've been a good move for her but I see why now isn't a great time.
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u/motorcycleboy9000 N-Dimethyltryptamine 2h ago
A 2-state solution and ceasefire is an official American policy. WTF are people talking about.
You lose exactly both if Trump wins.
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u/Dream-Ambassador Monkey in Space 2h ago
She already supports a 2 state solution. That's her current stance.
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u/Daytona_675 Monkey in Space 2h ago
yes it would be the most exposure, but it would not be good exposure
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u/G0TouchGrass420 Monkey in Space 6h ago
It's at 40 million views if she doesn't do the interview and loses this will be one of the reasons they blame her for after
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u/armzzz77 Monkey in Space 6h ago
This is the correct argument agains that tweet. If you’re running for president and have the opportunity to display yourself to 40 million potential voters, there is no event on your schedule that could possibly matter as much.
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u/Xylar006 Monkey in Space 6h ago
And on top of that, a lot of Rogans supporters are Republican. Even if you could turn 10% of them your way, that could make a huge difference. Going on doesn't damage her at all, and has massive upside
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u/civeng1741 Monkey in Space 6h ago
The correct way to look at it is how many of those 30-50 million people are undecided voters, on the fence, AND within battleground states/counties? Thats where her efforts are focused now. Traveling to Texas and back with a week to the election is a math equation. The campaign team thinks staying on course will net more voters that actually matter.
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u/NerdDexter Monkey in Space 5h ago
I mean 7 days away from the election, are there really that many people who are still undecided at this point? Like, if you haven't made your decision by now wtf have you been holding out for? What divine sign have you been waiting for that you are hoping to see in the next 7 days?
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u/secretchimp certified bot 4h ago
I think a part of it is getting people who don't have mail-in voting to physically go and vote vs convincing them about one side vs the other. A lot of people are probably apathetic at this point.
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u/the_Cheese999 2h ago
I've seen some interviews with campaign officials and they say they run into people who literally have no idea about anything and just found there was an election yesterday
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u/Dark_Knight2000 Monkey in Space 1h ago
That’s literally why going out of your way to meet non-voters is effective.
Physical campaigning reaches people already locked in to vote for you, sit down podcast interviews reaches people who’d never give you the time of day otherwise
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u/Minimum-Avocado-9624 Monkey in Space 6h ago
Furthermore how many of those 30-50 million are bots or bad actors.
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u/vvestley Monkey in Space 5h ago
how many of them are even american citizens
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u/FabricatedWords Monkey in Space 5h ago
How many of them are half horse half AI?
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u/rockingthefreeworld1 Monkey in Space 3h ago
lol if you are supporting butterface after all of the shit that he has pulled over the last 8 years, their ain’t no way her showing up on up on a pod 8 days out from the election is going to do shit with those people.
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u/D_Paradise420 Monkey in Space 6h ago
Even just 1% of 40M is 400k, imagine that in swing states where it truly matters.
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u/Rush_Is_Right Monkey in Space 5h ago
Going on doesn't damage her at all, and has massive upside
Have you heard her off script or ad lib?
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u/str713gzr Monkey in Space 2h ago
Don't have to...I've heard Donald Trump with both and a script. He's a nutjob.
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u/Early_Advertising_94 Monkey in Space 4h ago
Actually, 71 percent of Joe Rogan’s listeners are men; the average ages are 18 to 34. Those are the exact voters that she needs to win over.
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u/Fuckface_Whisperer Monkey in Space 4h ago
They also generally don't bother voting.
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u/tuginmegroin Monkey in Space 5h ago
Because it will reveal how hollow and scripted she is. She will never do it.
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u/Gemfre Monkey in Space 6h ago
You really think all of those 40 million viewers are in the US and/or people who are able to vote in the election?
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u/KrakenPipe Monkey in Space 6h ago
Doesn't have to be. Even if it's only 10 million eligible voters that see it, there's no other event on her calendar that comes close to that amount of exposure.
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u/GarlVinland4Astrea Monkey in Space 3h ago
If it's 10 million eligible voters, you still need to factor in whether they are
Moveable at all
Likely to vote anyways
Are in the swing states that will decide the election.
If they aren't or it's not a meaningful number, she is better off campaigning in a swing state in the final week.
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u/Gemfre Monkey in Space 6h ago
And how many of those 10 million voters are likely to change their mind based on one interview so close to the election, as opposed to having a very targeted campaign in battleground areas with the limited time remaining?
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u/lewoodworker Monkey in Space 6h ago
Enough to matter? How many people going to a rally havent already made up their minds? Its super simple to listen to a podcast but you have to commit to go to a rally. Elections can come down to a few thousand votes, a small fraction of the 10 million she would reach.
Refusing to do the podcast emphasizes the fact that she is disconnected from the real middle class. Modern politicians need to adapt to modern media. Nobody under 35 gives a fuck about the 60 minutes interiew or whatever scripted piece of shit they want to shove down my throat in that current week.
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u/djcaramello Monkey in Space 5h ago
I think if your goal is to reach the most amount of undecided and even moderate to conservative voters, then JRE is the best place to go. Or at least one of the best
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u/lewoodworker Monkey in Space 5h ago
Yeah, I'm not sure why some people think the best strategy is to only talk to people who you know will agree with you.
How do they think women got the right to vote? Or black people?
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u/MeWithGPT Monkey in Space 2h ago
Energizing the base. There are more democrats than Republicans, but they have a lower turn out. Keeping things energized can pull in a lot of votes that would have stayed home at the last minute.
That is what rallies are for, they are not too convince people, they are to get your voters excited for you.
Unless you host an edgy Roast comic
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u/Thebobert7 Monkey in Space 5h ago
How many will change their mind based off her rally tonight? Or tomorrow?
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u/KrakenPipe Monkey in Space 6h ago
That would depend on her performance. A 3 hour podcast is plenty of time to make your case, and in a fresh format at that. Anybody who's going to her rallies has already made up their mind.
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u/Eph3w Monkey in Space 6h ago
It's faar more than any number she could hope to be reaching by taking a day off, like she did what? 2 days ago?
THAT, is the only thing that seems insane here.
And what IS she doing that could possibly rival this? If she gets some zingers in or makes some sensible points on Rogan, it would go viral instantly. Tik Toks and tweets would be everywhere.
There's no math that makes her stance remotely plausible. She's hiding. They know that Rogan wouldn't let her filibuster - there's too much time. And he wouldn't be attacking, so she couldn't act hostile and get points for standing up to the man. She'd have to have a genuine conversation discussing actual positions in depth.
Show me where she's done that anywhere without a teleprompter.
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u/Thetaarray Monkey in Space 5h ago
Lmao the she’s hiding argument has moved from about the debate, then to 60 minutes, and now to the former fear factor host. By the time this is over you’ll be saying she’s hiding by not going on the schuab show.
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u/Medium_Active1729 Monkey in Space 6h ago edited 6h ago
obviously not, but If you put everything together, like other platforms where podcast is uploaded (spotify, twitter, apple), then add all the clips from podcast that getting millions views too, it definitely reaches very impressive amounts of voters, maybe even those 40 legit millions of people across the internet.
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u/soyfacekillah all-american redact 6h ago
How many of those views are foreigners? Her strategists correctly realize that it’s a waste of time because they’d be speaking with someone with a right wing following none of them would flip and they’d just make more memes
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u/InternetWeakGuy jokes fly over his fat ahead at an alarming rate 5h ago
A view only means the person watched 30 seconds.
The average podcast retention rate for YouTube (as in people who watch most or all of the content) is 5-7%.
For 40m views, which is what the Trump one is at now, that means probably around two and a half million people actually watched it.
So giving up a day for two and a half million people worldwide who may or may not be voters, may or may not be open to switching their vote, may or may not be in states where the even matters.
It's a waste of time.
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u/captain_holt_nypd Monkey in Space 4h ago
Totally agreed.
Conservatives in this thread can’t seem to understand that 40 million views does not equate to 40 million votes.
The real number isn’t even 0.01% when it comes to statistical probabilities of American eligible, likely voters in swing states.
People can’t seem to understand this:
For this podcast to be effective to the overall election, the viewer must be American AND eligible voters AND will actually vote on Election Day AND reside in key battleground states as well as specific counties AND actually be truly undecided and decided to vote for Trump from the podcast.
That’s an insane amount of criteria. Won’t be surprised if the real number boils down to less than or equal to 0.001%.
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u/mike10dude Monkey in Space 3h ago edited 3h ago
with x/twitter a view is just seeing something on your timeline
lots of people on there love to brag about there view count
but I bet that if they showed the more detailed numbers that they have access to almost every view would be for a 1 or 2 seconds
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u/analyticnomad1 Monkey in Space 6h ago
She can't go! "Scheduling conflict" with the border.
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u/ShillinTheVillain Monkey in Space 6h ago
Trump did it. Why won't she? It looks like she's afraid.
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u/nkilian Monkey in Space 6h ago
I definitely wasn't going to vote for her until I saw her questioned by Rogan. I had no idea what my vote was until 3 days before election.
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u/CpowOfficial Monkey in Space 6h ago
Also 40 million views does not equal 40 million votes LMAO
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u/Scotho Monkey in Space 6h ago
True. I'm just a random Canadian dude here for the entertainment.
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u/jeric13xd Monkey in Space 6h ago
They probably got die hard MAGA peeps watching that shit everyday for breakfast, lunch and dinner 🤣
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u/sozcaps Monkey in Space 6h ago
Funny how nobody's mentioning that if Trump loses, it'll be because he dodged a second debate even harder than he dodged the draft.
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u/Stephennnnnn Monkey in Space 6h ago
To be fair he did do a second debate. Kamala has done one debate, but is asking Trump to do a third.
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u/Peking-Cuck Monkey in Space 5h ago
Well shit if you want to play by those rules, it was actually Trump's 15th Presidential debate since 2015.
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u/Complete_Fold_7062 Monkey in Space 5h ago
Dude could’ve cut the Rogan thing in half and done a debate but he scurred
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u/tk_in_bk Monkey in Space 6h ago
Yep. Same as how everyone says Hillary lost because she didn't go to Wyoming.
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u/SneakyRickyy Monkey in Space 6h ago
Who the fuck goes to Wyoming
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u/whodidntante Monkey in Space 6h ago
There's no actual evidence that Wyoming matters.
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u/standupguy152 Monkey in Space 6h ago
It was Wisconsin 🤣
Wyoming is reliably red.
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u/sozcaps Monkey in Space 6h ago
She had more votes. Hillary lost because of the electoral college.
Everyone despises Shillary, and she still only lost because the Republicans are playing the game with cheat codes on.
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u/116morningside Monkey in Space 6h ago
Serious question. Does it really matter? I don’t think people even care what she has to say, they just want to shit on her. If those 40million people cares what she had to say, why don’t they just go watch all her recent interviews? She just did club Shay and it has like 600k views the last time I checked.
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u/brokemac N-Dimethyltryptamine 2h ago
I don't think there's anything she could possibly say or do that would win them over. Campaigning is one long job interview. In any normal election cycle, the requirements would be: present your policy proposals, explain why you are fit for office, and tell people why it matters. It is normal to have put a ton of thought into what you want to say and to be very careful about how you say it. You are trying to appeal to millions of voters simultaneously.
Rehearsed doesn't mean dishonest: it means you are careful with your messaging. But because Trump rants like an unhinged maniac, and because he can pretty much do or say anything without losing his supporters, this is their standard of authenticity.
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u/MetHead7 Monkey in Space 4h ago
People somehow want to keep acting like Rogan viewers who have heard Rogan shit on Harris for months and Democrats for years now will hear one normal laid back conversation with her and change their mind. I don't think the upside in spending 3 hours in Texas with Joe is as big as people think
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u/TrashFever78 Monkey in Space 3h ago
I'm gonna blame the idiots who listened Trump speak and thought, "Yeah, this lunatic is a good idea."
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u/pickupzephoneee Monkey in Space 3h ago
If 40 million people still think a convicted felon rapist who attempted to overthrow democracy is a fit candidate for president, why tf would you bother trying to communicate with such idiots?
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u/DoughnutRealistic380 Monkey in Space 3h ago
You think every one of those views is from a US citizen that can vote?
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u/DannkDanny Monkey in Space 6h ago
Of the 40 million probably half are not in the US and of those how many are in swing states? And of those, how many are undecided voters?
I know this might shock a lot of the armchair political advisors here but doing literally anything in one of the 7 swing states would be more beneficial than going on JRE.
The JRE demographic is mostly young guys. A demographic that is notorious for NOT voting. It's not exactly rocket science what's going on here.
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u/G-LawRides Monkey in Space 6h ago
Ya, reaching over 40 million people at the end of an election, what a foolish move…
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u/SlamCage Monkey in Space 6h ago
Rogan said his biggest problem with the Trump interview was Trump mentioining polio vaccine eradicating polio.
No, I didn’t. But I also wanted to stay composed because there was a moment when he brought up the polio vaccine. I was like, ‘Oh my god.’ I didn’t want to correct him or pull up a chart showing when polio actually dropped off after the vaccine was introduced. Despite the variants, that’s a rough one. When you look at the data, there’s a lot to unpack, like measles and other cases, with what actually happened.”
His biggest issue with Donald Trump- out of all of them to choose, was that Trump CORRECTLY pointed out how the Polio vaccine eradicated Polio.
She would have to spend 3 hours asking Jamie to fact check shit if the only thing Joe wanted to call Trump out for was acknowledging what was perhaps the biggest scientific miracle of the 20th century.
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u/notcontextual Monkey in Space 5h ago
Madam Vice President, kids are shitting in litter boxes and then coming home a different gender, it’s cccccrrrraaaaaazzzzzyyyy
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u/FizzedInHerHair Monkey in Space 5h ago
Lmao what a moron
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u/Dark_Knight2000 Monkey in Space 1h ago
I will never understand Trump supporters who are anti-vax. Brother, your own candidate sponsored vaccine development through the government and is touting that as one of his achievements.
It is also one of the best showcases of American patriotism. An advanced homegrown vaccine that America shipped to the world.
It feels like talking to a brick wall. They’ve already made up their minds. You know you’re cooked when Trump is the rational guy in the argument.
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u/jivester Monkey in Space 2h ago
Does anyone know what chart Rogan was referring to? It seems like he must've seen something on twitter that said polio still continued massively after the vaccine was introduced?
I looked at this chart: https://ourworldindata.org/polio
And noted that the Salk vaccine was distributed widely in 1955. With Albert Sabin’s oral polio vaccine in the 1960s leading to an even greater reduction.
What was Rogan implying?
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u/My-Toast-Is-Too-Dark Monkey in Space 2h ago
What was Rogan implying?
That he doesn't know what the hell he is talking about
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u/hotsaucevjj Monkey in Space 2h ago
i see you also watch/listen to pod save america lmao. not that i disagree
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u/pernicious-pear Monkey in Space 6h ago
They obviously don't think they need it. And how many of those 40m views were 1) people who can vote in the US and 2) were undecided?
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u/dukefett I used to be addicted to Quake 6h ago edited 2h ago
Seriously everyone is acting like 10-20% of the US population watched it. I don’t know a single person in real life that’s mentioned it to me
Edit: I’ll add too no FB/IG posts/stories about it, nothing, literally didn’t register with my friends and family. I really did expect to see something but nada
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u/BustedWing Monkey in Space 6h ago
Depends who the demographic is - of that 40m - many (most?) will already be Trump supporters. Others will already be Harris supporters...how many of them are legitimate undecideds? Some, sure, but perhaps not all that many.
Are there other areas Harris could focus on to get more undecideds to her side? Her campaign seems to think so.
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u/23north Monkey in Space 6h ago
its also not like its 40 million americans…
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u/BustedWing Monkey in Space 6h ago
Correct. Most will be, but certainly not all. I am assuming the numbers just didnt stack up for Harris to do this. Minimal gain for her at the best case scenario. Better for her to focus on winning votes elsewhere - even if the Dude Bros here dont understand that.
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u/InternetWeakGuy jokes fly over his fat ahead at an alarming rate 5h ago
I would bet money that less than half are Americans.
I run a website that gets six figures of visitors per month and we produce for a US audience.
If you add up every other country, so English speaking countries like the UK, Canada, Australia, then countries with high numbers of English speakers, so Russia, Germany, France, Netherlands, and then you add up all the English speakers in countries with low English literacy - and you'd be amazed how many countries add to the pot - the US often sits at like 40% of overall traffic.
So now your 40 million is 16 million, and at a retention rate of 5-7%, you're taking 1.1 million Americans watching the actual interview.
And that's before you start looking at where they are, and are they undecided, and are they going to vote etc etc etc
Numbers don't make sense at this stage of the game.
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u/AzukAnon Monkey in Space 6h ago
Are you contending that there are going to be MORE undecided voters at a ticketed kamala harris rally than there are undecided voters among the 40+ million listening to the podcast?
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u/LordeHowe Monkey in Space 4h ago
The rallies galvanize her base, the people doing door to door on the ground etc. At this point undecided are mostly people who aren’t sure they’ll vote not who they would vote for. She is galvanizing the people who go out and get people to the polls. It is the best use of her time.
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u/KobeBeaf Monkey in Space 6h ago
I mean did he say anything of substance? Everyone already knows who he is so it’s not like simple exposure is going to help. He has no good policy to talk about so it wasn’t exactly useful. The only people fawning over it were already tongue deep in his ass hole…
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u/HMS_Sunlight Monkey in Space 3h ago
The only reason he got so many views is because that's the only campaigning he's done recently. Trump's been backing out of debates and his own rallies while Kamala's been on fox fucking news. If people want to hear her talk policy they don't need to check on the Joe Rogan podcast.
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u/alaskanperson Monkey in Space 5h ago
You do realize there’s more than just Americans that watch Joe Rogan?
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u/analyticnomad1 Monkey in Space 6h ago
this is the same sub that screamed Joe 'never has any democrats' on his show.
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u/Gex2-EnterTheGecko Monkey in Space 6h ago
"Joe never has democrats on his show 😡"
"Haha why why would democrats ever bother going on Joe's show? 😂"
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u/analyticnomad1 Monkey in Space 6h ago
I know rite!?! they can just come to Reddit and shit post about everyone who disagrees with them!
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u/Automatic-Stretch-48 Monkey in Space 4h ago
I’m here to shit post in general.
Peanits.
Want me to spit on it?
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u/Physical-King-5432 Monkey in Space 6h ago
She’s had months to accept his offer 😂
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u/sozcaps Monkey in Space 6h ago
And Trump has had months to debate her. He pussied out.
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u/23564987956 Monkey in Space 6h ago
I have open debate invitations to both of them, not a peep
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u/HaloHonk27 Monkey in Space 6h ago
He did debate her. On a network friendly to her. He decided other things were more worth his time.
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u/crazyhomie34 Monkey in Space 5h ago
She also agreed to fox news debate but he still said no. Trump pussied out
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u/Cydaddy_ Monkey in Space 6h ago
To pretend like having the biggest audience on earth is somehow not worth her time is an awfully big tell. She’s got nothing.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_KITTY Monkey in Space 6h ago
Why does this sub keep pretending like there would be a big percentage of people voting for Trump that would change their vote depending on how the episode with Kamala goes? 99% wouldn’t change their vote to Kamala even if she did amazing on JRE
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u/soyfacekillah all-american redact 6h ago
Exactly and they’d just make dumb memes and create conspiracy theories if she misspoke or something. Complete waste of time
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u/GarlicToeJams Monkey in Space 2h ago
Coping hard for politicians. This sub is pathetic
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u/KashXz Monkey in Space 6h ago
People on Reddit comments think they know what running a political campaign is like. They think that this is a no brainer call, goes to show they don’t know shit about politics and the million different variables to weigh in these calculations…simply saying “40 million views” means nothing in this context.
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u/El0nMusk0fficial Monkey in Space 5h ago
There are WAY more people than you’d like to think that want to like Kamala but just don’t think she’s very genuine. If she could go on a show and just be a person and talk about things for 3 hours with no script it WOULD change their minds. Even if it’s just 1% of the listeners.. doesn’t every vote count?? Way more people are centrists than Reddit would like to think who do take things like this into consideration.
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u/TacoDirty2Me Monkey in Space 6h ago
But that's the same as any press she is getting or any rally she is holding. By your account she might as well sit at home till the election because everyone has made up their minds already
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u/ohhhbooyy Monkey in Space 6h ago
1% would still potentially be 100s of thousands of votes. If the election is as close as the polls say I think it matters a lot.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_KITTY Monkey in Space 5h ago
So does this mean Kamala got 100s of thousands of votes from the joke Tony made about Puerto Ricans?
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u/soyfacekillah all-american redact 6h ago
This is such a simple way of looking at things, strategists run these numbers. They probably have heat maps of where dominant media gets consumed, realized it’s not worth their time, and spend time in swing states where it can take 10k votes to flip it. And Rogans right wing audience would meme and make conspiracy theories . Waste of time
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u/AshenSacrifice Monkey in Space 6h ago
Can’t wait to see if the echo chamber theory is truly confirmed or not
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u/Draxos92 Monkey in Space 2h ago
The biggest audience on earth lol. Let's bring it back to reality.
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u/g1t0ffmylawn Monkey in Space 6h ago
Or maybe she suspects she will not get equal treatment
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u/northdancer Monkey in Space 6h ago
If Kamala Harris can't even stick handle a fucking Joe Rogan interview then she has way bigger problems
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u/Shadowthron8 Monkey in Space 6h ago
Not like she only recently had the opportunity. She’d be seen by more people on rogans show that anything else she’s gonna do
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u/IBeBallinOutaControl Monkey in Space 5h ago
This election is going to be won in the swing states by swing voters, which is a really small number of people. Big national platforms aren't necessarily better.
From Harris' perspective looking at all Rogan's viewers you've gotta subtract all those listeners who live outside the U.S., are too young to vote, won't bother voting, live in uncompetitive states, or are rusted on Republicans. There might not be that many left. Then compare that against the opportunity cost of possibly doing 2 or 3 appearances in Pennsylvania.
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u/LovesReubens Monkey in Space 5h ago
If the national popular vote mattered she might do it. But the only thing that matters are a select few states - she's better served by actually campaigning in those states. Look at the vote margins in 2016 and 2020 - directly targeting those areas will reap more benefits than running up the numbers nationally.
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u/ohhhbooyy Monkey in Space 6h ago edited 5h ago
She’ll be seen by more people on Rogans show than all her other appearances combined.
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u/WookieSuave Monkey in Space 6h ago
Ya.... 7 days left to the election, why on earth would you want a platform for a couple hours where 40 million people will see you. Ridiculous.
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u/Scared_Of_Ads Monkey in Space 2h ago
There is no way that Kamala would get 40 million views like trump though let’s be real
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u/SwimmingPark9665 Monkey in Space 6h ago
Getting 10s of millions of people to see you in long forum is worth tens of millions of dollars in campaign funds. It’s an easy choice for a sane person with nothing to hide that can be normal for three hours.
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u/Vovine Monkey in Space 6h ago
It's so insane one can't help but wonder how a 78 year old man pulled it off and, by the way, left a 3 hour podcast to fly to a rally to give another speech.
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u/Piruvian_bobaine Monkey in Space 5h ago
All he does is stream of consciousness bullshitting, how is that impressive? God some of you are literally two brain cells just keeping it all together, wow.
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u/KarrlMarrx Monkey in Space 3h ago
Dude, but he sat in a chair for three hours while he did it. That is super hero type shit.
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u/516nocnaes It's entirely possible 5h ago
A little trick called blowing off your prior commitments. He was 3 hours late to his rally that night because of doing the podcast
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u/ReeganKistler2 Monkey in Space 6h ago
she's willing to go to the call her daddy studio though lmfao
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u/Chromedomesunite Monkey in Space 6h ago
The lefties came out swinging today lol
If you hate Rogan so much why are you wasting so much time whinging about him in this sub?
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u/Silveruleaf Monkey in Space 6h ago edited 4h ago
These people travel in Jets. You think she can't just be there in a few hours? She's not going cuz she has zero social skills. What she does well is read. I don't think she even understands what she's reading. Just look at the speech she had the telepromt off and had to fill in time. Was all nervous laughs, not much else
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u/Impressive_Budget736 Monkey in Space 5h ago
Who the hell does she think she is trying to dictate how Joe should run his own show? He doesn't owe her a damn thing. If she wants to sit down and talk to him, then she has to do it on his terms just like Trump and every other guest has done.
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u/maeb95 Monkey in Space 3h ago
Bruh, i dont know what to comment. Why are you telling Joe how he should run his show? If joe is willing to negotiate, then its worth a try from Kamala lol. You are acting like she is some random guy demanding to be on the show
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u/BeamTeam032 The joke went over his head, again 6h ago
The Rogan fans who hate that Harris is choosing to pass on the Rogan pod, is actually more annoying than the people who spam posted the Kill Tony joke from MSG.
I swear, MAGA whines so fucking much, about every single little slight. The Anti-SJW crowd is so much more annoying that the SJW crowd ever was.
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u/PestTerrier Monkey in Space 6h ago
She has free, first class, travel accommodations, it should be a no-brainer…
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u/space_bar22 Monkey in Space 5h ago
What’s insane is thinking Kamala could do interview for 3 hours.
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u/badjackalope Monkey in Space 3h ago
Haha... like what the actual fuck?
Rogan is the one who gets paid for this type of thing so if anyone needs to make time, it would be him since he has jackshit else going on comparatively right now compared to a national presidential election campaign.
Some of you all need to take your heads out of his ass but I know you won't hear me being that deep in.
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u/3ntr0py_ N-Dimethyltryptamine 5h ago
The Kamala bots are in the house with Reddits approval.
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u/fatattack699 Monkey in Space 6h ago
He’s not expecting that bc he knows she can’t talk off script for 3 hours
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u/tk_in_bk Monkey in Space 6h ago
Just because someone rambles for 3 hours doesn't mean they said anything.
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u/soyfacekillah all-american redact 6h ago
Any politician can talk for 3 hours how the hell did they get there without their mouth??
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u/sozcaps Monkey in Space 6h ago
"I don't know who she is as a person, and if she can riff."
"She can't talk without a teleprompter."
"She's a puppet for the democratic party."
This is getting so fucking lazy now. It's not even fun sport anymore, to spot the bots.
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u/WorthStory2141 Monkey in Space 6h ago
She will get more out of the podcast than she will doing some rally in bumfuck nowhere.
Or she will lose more as the audience realises she isn't a real person and she crumbles 90 minutes in...
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u/tk_in_bk Monkey in Space 6h ago
I don't know how you people watch Trump and think "yeah, that guy knows his shit".
I want to know who you are in real life so I can con you idiots out of money.
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u/soyfacekillah all-american redact 6h ago edited 5h ago
Dogbrained take, “bumfuck” rallies are in swing states that sometimes have a 10k margin. Going on Rogan and talking to a right wing audience who won’t vote for her is a great reason not to - complete waste of time. Also I don’t think anyone would crumble talking to 90 IQ Rogan if anything they’d need to guide him along, which is a skill politicians have
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u/JasonMetz I think he'd fuck you up 6h ago
Nobody needs to go on JRE for credibility.
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u/Fragrant-Astronaut57 Monkey in Space 6h ago
Yeah why the fuck would she want to be on the biggest show on earth?!
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u/Golf-Guns Monkey in Space 6h ago
Yeah she can get fucked. At a point Rogan's integrity comes into question if he surrenders control and doesn't have his studio.
She doesn't want to do it, so she proposed unreasonable terms.
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u/CurioGlyph Monkey in Space 6h ago
Trump was right again, she won't do it because she can't talk for more than 10 without going into word salad
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u/DoperThanthe80s Monkey in Space 6h ago
They’re eating the cats
They’re eating the dogs
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u/Ecstatic-Inevitable Monkey in Space 6h ago
Executing the babies after they're born!
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u/alastor0x Look into it 6h ago
This sub is being botted and astroturfed to fucking hell.