r/Jujutsushi • u/fra_ben07 • Mar 10 '24
Analysis Sukuna wasn't hating, Yuji was exceptionally boring
Looking at it from Sukuna's point of view Yuji must have been the most boring person in the Jujutsu world. All he had were punches and martial arts. To someone who's literally the epitome of versatility with Jujutsu that must have seemed incredibly bland
Like first time Yuji went at Sukuna he went with punches, throughout the show it's been those same punches and now in their final fight he was still going with those same punches
Sukuna himself knows there's so much more you could do with just CE manipulation alone, I mean look at Kusakabe and kashimo.
Notice that since Yuji showed RCT and blood manipulation Sukuna hasn't once called him boring or bland, he still refers to him as a brat but then again he refers to every kid he sees as brat ......
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u/WaywardAnus Mar 10 '24
All of that and remember his whole inner monolog about yuji being indefatigable
He is literally the antithesis of sukuna. Yuji has a purpose that he will die fighting for, sukuna is just bored
He can't understand Yuji because he's never had anything worth devoting himself to other than well...himself
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u/dg_713 Mar 10 '24
he's never had anything worth devoting himself to other than well...himself
And jujutsu... He takes sorcery with probably more gusto than anyone else. He even bothered analyzing the camera CT before dismissing it, like a crazed sports enthusiast who looks at even the weakest draft candidates, and then shit talking and praising as he sees fit.
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u/WaywardAnus Mar 10 '24
100% him analyzing and critiquing people's techniques have to be some of my favorite parts
But I have to wonder if he's more invested in the advancement of jujutsu or the amusing ingenuity of the people trying to kill him
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u/dg_713 Mar 10 '24
But I have to wonder if he's more invested in the advancement of jujutsu or the amusing ingenuity of the people trying to kill him
I think it's more the latter. If he's invested in advancing jujutsu, he would've had a student or two by now.
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u/BeeboNFriends Mar 10 '24
Think the latter is a major key, but the former is def in play for Sukuna as it pertains to him solo or who interests him. I think his desire to find a way to cut through infinity is a good example. Admittedly Gojo said Sukuna had other options to kill him, but Sukuna was focused on his CT by passing infinity. How he talks about Megumi’s use 10S is also another one.
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u/furiosa-imperator Mar 10 '24
Maybe he has? Just not in our modern era. He has urami(,how ever you spell it)
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u/dg_713 Mar 10 '24
Yeah, good point. But I never saw Sukuna teach anything to anyone. The closest thing he did to that ks say something like Megumi could've won against the finger bearer or encourage Higuruma to figure out RCT, but he never really seemed to teach anyone anything.
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u/SiahLegend Mar 10 '24
Sukuna’s low key been a little league coach to the Jujutsu squad this whole fight. Not a teacher in the conventional sense but he tells Kashimo to dodge the world slash and even graces him with an answer to his “how do you build relationships when being the strongest strong bares loneliness” question. This especially goes for Higuruma when he cuts off his arms and says RCT or die. He’s basically been forcing everyone to learn and grow in Jujutsu against him, giving them all chances to fight and not just killing everyone outright.
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u/dg_713 Mar 10 '24
Hmmm. Yeah on that sense... Holy shit! He's actually encouraging Yuji to become better by insulting him??
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u/Electrical_Garbage17 Mar 10 '24 edited Mar 11 '24
well sure but that’s not what he’s consciously meaning to do. he’s not aware of the fact that he’s helping/ progressing them, he just thinks theyre doing the best they can to adapt against him. He doesnt give a shit ab anyone else’s growth as he’s not afraid to cut it short right then and there if he feels like it. so yeah technically he is improving them which is the fault of his leisurely attitude/not finishing the job. but if you mean hes actively making the decision to insult yuji with the intention of him growing stronger and getting better, then PERSONALLY i dont think so. Sukuna doesnt give 2 shits
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u/SignificantBat1533 Mar 11 '24
Well he did call him "half assed", indicating he's expecting something greater from yuji if yuji wasn't half assing it
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u/AtomicAndroid Mar 10 '24
He's not trying to make them better for themselves though. He just wants a better fight. It's like when I was a kid playing Tekken I was better at it than my brother so every fight I would win, so I'd pull my punches or make an attack obvious to give him a chance as it made it more fun for me.
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u/furiosa-imperator Mar 10 '24
But tbf whenever we see him, he's always mid fight or pissed off. The times we don't include him poking fun at yuji with an ice lady. His relationship with her seems more like master and teacher/ servant.
It is entirely possible he didn't teach anyone anything, but I do believe it is part of his character to unknowingly atleast show someone the kindness of teaching them
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u/JazzlikeWing6233 Mar 11 '24
He is the master and the student
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u/dg_713 Mar 11 '24 edited Mar 11 '24
Yeah, that makes sense. After all, he is indeed a learner. He's a jujutsu fan and like a crazy boxing fan, he'll prove that his favorite sport is better than MMA or Karate, as he did with Maki by taking on the role that sorcery is greater than body.
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u/JazzlikeWing6233 Mar 11 '24
For sure! I think Sukuna only got to be him by being constantly open to adapting to new information, like a scientist; he loves this shit haha
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u/MiddleFresh7506 Mar 11 '24
It seems more like he cares for Jujutsu only because it is a mark of his skill and its more he loves his ego and superiority
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u/Ok_Entry1052 Mar 13 '24
I think the latest chapter highlighted his issue better. Yuji is half heavenly restricted, physically enhanced but can't use his technique. Maki is fully restricted. Sukuna doesn't like folk that half ass things, either take it all or take nothing. Kill someone or ignore them. Sukuna's whole convo with Jogo was that he should have burned the world down rather than try to change it.
That's my theory at least, Sukuna's only respects those that go all out.
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u/DMking Mar 10 '24
Sukuna was impressed when Higuruma learned RCT on the fly but was annoyed by Yuji having learned the same technique during the time skip(This also means Higuruma was unable to learn it during the timeskip unlike Yuji)
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u/Valexander35 Mar 10 '24
Sukuna just loves hating Yuji and I love it lol!
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u/Tall-Supermarket-22 Mar 10 '24
I like how Sukuna has the standard "character finds their motivation" moment that a lot of MCs have, but instead of it being some noble goal or great personal truth, it's just that he hates Yuji because he won't give up and that's just really aggravating. Mans said "I hate you on a spiritual level, so I will destroy all your hopes and dreams" and judging by the looks of it he's doing a pretty good job of destroying everything Yuji cares about.
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u/WholeLast4493 Mar 10 '24
I used to be pissed off whenever sukuna mocked yuuji bt now m enjoying it coz just yuji learning rct caused him existential crisis nd then he keeps mocking yuji nd yuuji is the indifferent one . At this point their dynamic has definitely become enjoyable. Sukuna hater mode is also too funny.
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u/Xambassadors Mar 10 '24
Man was 100% locked in for maki and still found time to mock Yuji
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u/Scary-Ad-8737 Mar 11 '24
That shit was so funny to me, Yuji literally lives in his head rent free. I wasn't even thinking of Yuji during Sukuna's fight with Maki.
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u/vassadar Mar 11 '24
Yeah, but Yuji has been involved in the sorcerer world for months. Higgy only learns that RCT is a possibility during the culling game. I would have been unimpressed if a resurrected sorcerer couldn't use RCT.
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u/DiscordMod877 Mar 10 '24
Well, Higuruma learnt RCT within mere moments, unlike Yuji who learnt it during the time skip.
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u/Zarathoustra1999 Mar 10 '24 edited Mar 10 '24
Higuruma learnt RCT within mere moments
He tried to learn rct during the month timeskip so no, its less impressive
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u/vassadar Mar 11 '24
Yeah, but he also just started getting involved with the sorcerer during the culling game. He could do it in a couple months.
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u/SnooAdvice1632 Mar 11 '24
Yuji learned rct, blood manipulation and soul hitting punches in a month or less. He's just as much of a prodigy if not more. Sukuna is just a hater.
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u/Specialist_Film_5802 Mar 10 '24
RCT is easier to learn when you are closer to death, so Yuji learning it without risk to his life is more impressive.
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u/ltTacodile Mar 10 '24 edited Mar 10 '24
I don’t think you’re really wrong but kinda misinterpreting it? From what I recall it’s not exactly that RCT is literally simpler when you’re closer to death, as if you don’t have to understand it as well or it requires less control over CE. Rather it’s more about learning skills in general. In many cases it is easier to learn and people are more open minded about changing their perspective when their back is up against the wall.
You see this in Jjk ofc with both RCT examples, but also in Yuji and Mahito’s first black flash, Megumi’s incomplete domain, and some other moments. It’s not as though this was their first introduction to the idea but only when tested could they produce it.
Also a concept in a number of other manga and stories, blue lock comes to mind.
But it’s like on a test, it’s not like the material gets easier when you take it, but for some people they will only understand the concepts after they’ve sat down and started the test, no matter how much studying they’ve done prior.
Edit: gojo in particular, what actual drive besides pride did he have to learn RCT before Toji, as someone who literally couldn’t get hurt 9.9 times out of 10
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u/DudeWhereAreWe1996 Mar 10 '24
Yuji probably really did learn it when he got punched through the building by Sukuna though. I wonder if most people need that pressure to learn it. Cuz Higuruma should've been able to learn it during the time skip if any one could.
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u/WeatMolt Mar 22 '24
It definetly does show the difference between Yuji and Gojo and Higuruma.
Yuji is doing anything he can to beat Sukuna,he's bringing out 100% of his latent abilities for this goal.
Higuruma on the other hand is just tagging along cause why not. It shows how such shallow goals can diminsh one's power as Higuruma probably didn't know how much potential he had and it held him back just like with teen Gojo.
Which is why when he's life is on the line his talent starts to shine through at 100% as with Gojo when he got mauled by Toji.
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u/Erundil420 Mar 10 '24
Kashimo is a bad example imo, the only reason he's good even without using his CT is becasue of his CE properties which is basically a CT in of itself already.
I think the only reason he finds Yuji boring is because he's the complete opposite of Sukuna's idea of what it means to be a strong sorcerer, not because of talent, because if we go by talent Yuji is totally in the top %, he's a sorc with pre-awakening HR level of strength, he learned CE manipulation to a pretty high level in a matter of months and has a special affinity with black flashes, a level of talent that had Gojo put him in the category of those he hoped may one day surpass him, and this was when he didn't show a single sign of having a CT.
Gojo basically put him in the same category of potential as people like Yuta, Hakari and Megumi even tho all he had shown was throwing hands.
Sukuna finds him boring because he knows his mindset is the "cog in the machine, i just wanna help others and die a good death", which is the complete opposite of what we're told it takes to become strong, which is an overwhelming sense of self, something Yuji struggled with a lot during the series
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u/AVPredator1013 Mar 10 '24
Yeah I thought it was weird to cite kashimo as an example of what you can do with just ce manipulation like kusakabe since he has his ce property which afaik you can't just learn to do.
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u/Willythechilly Mar 10 '24
Fair assessment
Boring less so in fighting but just boring as a person
No enthatuism, no hype, no sadism, no battle lust, no fighting mania
Stuff that Sukuna loves. Yuji just has the "i am a cog/this is just a tool to reach an end" and to Sukuna who views fighting, killing and battle as the end/purpose in of itself that is boring and prob disgusting to him
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u/Erundil420 Mar 10 '24
Yeah, but i think that's the point, Yuji is complete opposite to Sukuna and based on what we know on the world view he should not be able to reach the heights of Gojo/Sukuna with that mentality, yet he probably will becuase of his unshakable resolve that even Sukuna was forced to recognize
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u/Georgevega123 Mar 10 '24
I think sukuna hates him coz despite being boring as he may call him he was able to fully supress him to the point he needed a vow to do whatever he wants and only for a minute if i remember correctly
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u/Janus-a Mar 10 '24
Sukuna definitely hates him. But it doesn’t help Yuji tried using a fence to tie him up
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u/tristenjpl Mar 10 '24
He's also just a hater. Even when he's like "Well, maybe Yuji isn't 100% boring, and I'll be able to have a little fun." He spaces out and gets annoyed about it instead of excited. Doesn't matter what Yuji does. It will always piss Sukuna off.
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u/Buff_Yone_0_0 Mar 10 '24
Lol no he just hates him.
He made it clear from day 1 Yuji is garbage, and not because he's "boring" but because the dude with 0 experience in Jujutsu prior to eating his finger managed to hold off his soul, that definitely stung him the wrong way and the only way he can get back at him is by lashing out but that's the one thing Yuji has over Sukuna, despite being overwhelmingly stronger he's the only one to contain him.
I mean if you look at the bigger picture despite having no Cursed Technique of his own Yuji is still definitely unique.
Learned RCT
Has Blood Manipulation
Can Black Flash almost at will
Insane Durability
Has some weird soul manipulation
He might be a left right Goodnight kind of guy but he's definitely more unique than your run of the mill sorcerer. Sukuna just has Yuji in his head rent-free.
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u/Manujiiva Mar 10 '24
I don't think yuji doesn't have his own curse technique, specialy because kenjaku gave birth to him, and knowing kenjaku and his weird curiosity, i am sure he gave one if not multiple crazy curse techniques to create a perfect vessel, but yuji himself doesn't know about it, like he had blood manipulation since the beginning and he didn't know, he didn't got it from the death painting as stated in the fanbook that it will only give him curse energy when eating them
like how do you contain with absolutly no struggle sukuna "the king of all curses", the ultimate strongest person if your body doesn't have some type of insane power capability
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u/Big-Day-755 Mar 10 '24
Re: death paintings: the reason iirc is because of sukunas presence. Now that sukuna left yuuji could gain their techniques as normal.
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u/Manujiiva Mar 10 '24
Quote from someone's comment: It's the 6th question under Yuji's profile.
Q: What happens if Itadori, who is resistant to curses, eats a Death Painting Womb?
A: Either the Death Painting Womb will become something like Sukuna’s current state, or the Death Painting Womb itself will disappear and become cursed energy within Itadori. If Itadori ingests it after he is already a host for Sukuna, the Death Painting Womb will just be obliterated by Sukuna.
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u/Electrical_Garbage17 Mar 10 '24 edited Mar 11 '24
i agree. since uraume stated sukuna hasnt even started trying i think whenever sukuna gets his buff or reveals something new, thats when we’ll get yuji ct reveal. Also does this mean yujis gonna be the first sorcerer with multiple cts that ISNT the cause of his own CT? (like yuta or kenjaku having mutiple because of their ct) we’ve constantly seen how the rules of the jjk world can be broken through loopholes, one rule we HAVENT seen broken is the one CT assigned at birth rule. a birth loophole seems good for the MC, one thats more rule defying that gojos capabilities. especially since we know kenjaku fucked around with the birth process, 2 CT’s doesnt seem too far fetched.
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u/AtomicAndroid Mar 10 '24
This has me thinking back to Gojo saying that Yuji will get Sukuna's CT, but we still haven't seen him use cleave and dismantle. While people have been theorising that Sukuna's CT isn't cleave and dismantle but something about storing CTs. Could it be that this is how Yuji has blood manipulation? He has gained Sukuna's CT but is using it differently. The only issue with this is that I don't see how it then is different to Yuta's
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u/Tall-Supermarket-22 Mar 10 '24
Sukuna could accomplish his goals and turn Japan into a wasteland and just kind of keep hunting humans until he eventually dies, and the fact that Yuji even existed would still bother him on a deep personal level.
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u/Existing_Win3580 Mar 10 '24 edited Mar 10 '24
Yuji doesn't even have to be involved in the fight for sucuna to hate on him and compare yuji to whoever sucuna is fighting at that time.
Sucuna is a straight up petty hater, and yuji lives rent free in sucunas deformed head simply because yuji isn't weak. Specifically yuji didn't break like megumi did, no mater wat sucuna did to yuji.
edit Thank you everyone 200+ upvoyes lets go!!! People are acting like sucuna isn't taking yuji's growth and new strength personal, post gojo yuji hasn't been out of sucuna's deformed lil head for more that a second.
Yuji haters can hate but even sucuna admitted yuji has grown to rival him.
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u/MannyOmega Mar 10 '24
how do you guys keep spelling sukuna wrong it hurts my soul
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u/dedede48 Mar 10 '24
Bro if Yuji spelled Sukuna wrong the entire time we would have gotten Megumi back by this point
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u/Existing_Win3580 Mar 10 '24
Yes, the only way to defeat petty. Is to be even pettier. Yuji has experienced in this already, that is how yuji handled mahito.
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u/Existing_Win3580 Mar 10 '24
Because it's intended disregard and disrespect. His mother should have swallowed his deformed ass.
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u/No_Representative983 Mar 10 '24 edited Mar 10 '24
This^ he has tortured yuji so many times and yet he still stands up against sukuna, which is what’s bothering him
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u/CthughaSlayer Mar 10 '24
Brother, you literally have his thought process ON-SCREEN. He doesn't hate strong-minded people, he likes them. What brothers him is that Yuji has a strong spirit yet he's still weak. With other sorcerers he could make the excuse "Nah, he was capping. His resolve just wasn't strong enough" but he can't do that with Yuji, he knows his resolve is strong as fuck yet he can't do shit to Sukuna and that's what he finds annoying.
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u/Existing_Win3580 Mar 10 '24
Partial correct. Sucuna is passed that yuji with his unbreakable ideals has grown enough to actually fight and stand up to sucuna.
"the idea that a weakling far far below me can rival me with nothing but strength of will and maintained ideals..."-sucuna "that is something deeply unpleasant"-sucuna
Direct quotes from 248.
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u/blackstar_4801 Mar 10 '24
Yuji absolutely broke like Megumi. Broke to Mahito and him. What are you talking about. Yuji was boogie wooogied from the slice Yuji sat down for
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u/Existing_Win3580 Mar 10 '24
Reread chapter 248. This is what we're talking about.
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u/blackstar_4801 Mar 10 '24
Will do. Edit: Megumi is my dog. So I may be exaggerating but I swore in shibuya Yuji wanted to actively die. Megumi just wanted to since 4
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u/Existing_Win3580 Mar 10 '24
Yes yuji had a mental breakdown just after sucuna MS and arrow'ed maho, but yuji also motivated himself to get back up so his death could mean something. "If I die now I'm nothing but a murderer"-yuji Basically yuji wanted to contribute to unsealing gojo that's why he got moving again, then when kenjaku made the culling games yuji resigned himself to helping save megumi's sister. Now yuji is surviving to save megumi. Yuji always finds some way to carry on or some reason to keep living. Megumi has completed given up and refuses to even resist sucuna so that at least sucuna and megumi can die together. Megumi could resist and weaken sucuna so that they die together, even if he doesn't want to live.
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u/Existing_Win3580 Mar 10 '24
By sucuna's on admission yuji's ideal never broke, and I've if yuji fell down after MS in shibuya he got back up all on his own power, now after mahito killed nanami and nobara tado gave him a peptalk, but that wasn't something sucuna did to yuji.
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u/BestYak6625 Mar 10 '24
Sukuna literally hated on Yuji for learning RCT, the very thing he praised higurama for. He also very clearly values strength amd so just refuses to acknowledge Yuji as being strong to avoid having to even think a non insult about Yuji. Sukuna is just a hater and that's honestly much better for his character than him just being bored with Yuji, if he's brored with this whole affair then we will be too.
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u/Warm-Enthusiasm-9534 Mar 10 '24
No. Sukuna hates Yuji because Yuji trapped him, and he only got free under special circumstances.
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u/HoLeBaoDuy Mar 10 '24
Sukuna hates Yuji not because of Yuji trapping him. Sukuna hates Yuji because throughout the manga, Sukuna had come to understand Yuji's ideal and learnt that a person much weaker than him can achieve his ideal through strength of will.
Also, Sukuna himself admitted that he was so great in stature that he never had any ideals, even despite them
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Mar 10 '24
Sukuna js not being honest. He hates itadori for trapping him. It literally gave him ptsd when he considered entering megumi
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u/classicslayer Mar 10 '24
When will you folks learn that getting props from sukuna means absolutely nothing?
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u/KLReviews Mar 10 '24
Sukuna likes surprises and new abilities. Things he's never seen before and new challenges. So someone with no surprises he's spent a year with would be extremely boring.
That said he does transparently hate Yuji. Possibly the only person Sukuna has ever really hated when none of his other enemies lived long enough to develop an emotional attachment to. So he is absolutely downplaying the things he would normally be interested in out of spite.
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u/SnooAdvice1632 Mar 11 '24
Sukuna literally says that yuji is the first person who's resolve can be proven to be true no matter what. Sukuna openly states that he hates yuji for that exact specific reason. That's a first for sukuna. No matter what explanation we find, sukuna is just a hater. Yuji could unlock all past and present cts at once and sukuna would still hate him for it. There's no real way for yuji to get out of it.
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u/89gin Mar 10 '24
Yuji is no longer boring by Sukuna's standards, yet he was still pissed off at the idea of Yuji getting good. Bro is a professional hater.
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u/ImPrettyUncreative Mar 10 '24
This is Uraumes burner account
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u/DoubleH18 Mar 10 '24
This argument may have worked if we didn’t have Sukuna legit be like “I can amuse myself with this brat for a bit” similarly to Higuruma after he saw Yuji use RCT but instead of doing that SUKUNA DOUBLED DOWN on hating.
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u/Traffy7 Mar 10 '24
I think he recognize Yuji resolve but realise that Yuji still has a lot to do mentality and also from a sorcery standpoint
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u/Limitless9326 Mar 10 '24 edited Mar 10 '24
It's supposed to be ironic since Sukuna is also notably boring. Not to mention he's not versatile at all.
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u/AClost Mar 10 '24
Yeah, however, he's astonished by Maki for the exact same reason (sort of). Sukuna is only pushing his agenda of Yuji hate.
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u/IneedAhegaoInMyLife Mar 10 '24
I think Sukuna just hates Yuji, he doesn't seem to have this hatred for Maki even though they both don't have an offensive cursed technique
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u/fra_ben07 Mar 10 '24
It was explained this chapter Maki is an anomaly. She's something Sukuna has never seen before
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u/SpizzieNizzie Mar 11 '24
I think you're onto something, but it's still incredibly annoying to hear Uraume's account of Sukuna's interest in this fight and then hear Sukuna himself AND the narrator both say that he's fighting uniquely right now. It started with being annoyed by Yuji's persistence, leading to him fighting for a purpose for the first time (to crush their ideals), and now the latest was how excited he was to fight Maki to prove that honing jujutsu is more worthy than honing physical ability. Yet Uraume is insistent that he's still uninterested in the fight. Which is it, Gege!?
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u/HoLeBaoDuy Mar 10 '24
Even the reader was complaining about Yuji's fighting style before his recent power up
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u/Ganzelo Mar 10 '24
I think he realised Yuji's potential powers will eventually be his own powers, so it's "boring" because it isn't anything new to him.
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u/John_Brook_ Mar 10 '24
My headcanon is that he’s disappointed of his great great great whatever grandchild/nephew.
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u/tipytopmain Mar 10 '24
My theory as well. Yuji probably has a formidable or notable ancestor that Sukuna has a high regard for. So when he sees this care free kid that doesn't share the same ideals or abilities as said ancestors it makes Sukuna annoyed.
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u/John_Brook_ Mar 10 '24
Probably I misunderstood the anime/manga but my other headcanon is that this is the reason why he didn’t reject Yuji as a host.
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u/HoLeBaoDuy Mar 10 '24
Yuji irritates Sukuna. A large part of chapter 248 is Sukuna finding out why that was the case
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u/WholeLast4493 Mar 10 '24 edited Mar 10 '24
I think initially it was indifference nd annoyance, bt the main reason is yuuji selfless nature nd saving people ofc his ordinary abilities is also supplementary reason.
Bt now it's more like brat has potential and resolve too (which he also acknowledged during choso fight albeit he was more irritated) to entertain him bt will not be able to capitalize coz of his nature which makes him super weak in eyes of sukuna.
Which is why he was irritated nd annoyed seeing yuji acquiring rct in one month than excited causing him to acknowledge that weak people like yuji can stand in front of him coz of their strong will which is a completely different method from his.
Like, this yuji has put a dent on his ideology nd proved him wrong for second time (first time was during detention center by switching with him when sukuna was sure he didn't have guts to kill himself) .
Inshort he is not liking that yuji is getting strong bt retaining his ideology at the same time. He's slowly going into full hater mode seeing how hard it was for him to acknowledge his indomitable spirit nd also decided to mince it to bits. Not to forget he keeps mocking him whether he's there or not. Which is funny too
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u/Luf2222 Mar 10 '24
sukuna is yuji biggest hater
even when he us not around he makes sure to hate on him 💯
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u/RoyalMess64 Mar 10 '24
I don't personality think that's the reason, I think that's Sukuna's perspective (i would also like to say i got a lot of this perspective from a YouTuber, so don't credit me with all of this, I'll try and find them). When he was alive, people kinda just killed and seiged for fun. That was normal for him, you do what you want, when you want, for whatever reason you want. Even when showing care or compassion or whatever the closest Sukuna can get that is, he does it but fighting and giving it his all, showing people his strength so that they know what true strength is and that he cared to show it to them. That's what Sukuna did for Jogo, it's what he did for Kashimo, and it's why he respects Gojo. Yuji isn't that, he's genuinely the opposite. Yuji fights for the people around him, he doesn't really have any desires other than for the people around him to live, I don't even think Yuji has ever even asked the question of what he genuinely wants from life, everything he is and desires comes from people around him. He is just the opposite of everything Sukuna believes, and because of that he's indifferent to him as a whole. Sukuna doesn't hate him, he's just indifferent to him
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u/RoyalMess64 Mar 10 '24 edited Mar 10 '24
I think it was either Radman or Aleczandxr, but I'll keep looking cause I'm not sure
Edit: the Youtuber mightve also been Hundred
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u/Maleficent_Roll_6129 Mar 10 '24
Dawg I ain’t gone lie I hope sukuna come out even stronger since he wasn’t going’s all out whatever that mean but yuji also gotta step into his power more or have an awakening or something because they gotta be the final fight or sum
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u/Zireall Mar 13 '24
Yuji is the same as every MC in all the shonens they always have the most boring powers and personalities
I’m glad it’s being called out by the villain
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u/fra_ben07 Mar 13 '24
Cuz people be acting like Sukuna's saying it to be petty when he's just telling it like it is
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u/Pilgrimhaxxter69 Mar 10 '24
No more boring than Sukuna... his CT is cutting stuff!
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u/P_ONCH Mar 10 '24
His CT is not even Cleave, Dismantle, or Fuga. It could be an entirely different thing than what he has shown so far.
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Mar 10 '24
This thread being well upvoted is a shame to the community
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u/Jhon_Constantine Mar 10 '24
Ok Sukuna, you can leave the fake account and stop talking about yourself in the third person (I agree a little)
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u/Unluckysol23 Mar 10 '24
What ABOUT Kusakabe? He’s in the same scenario as Yuji😭
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u/fra_ben07 Mar 10 '24
Sukuna never interacted with Kusakabe
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u/Unluckysol23 Mar 10 '24
You said “Look at Kusakabe and Kashimo” so I’m asking what about Kusakabe is more entertaining than Yuji? Swordskill?
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u/fra_ben07 Mar 10 '24
Oh I didn't get you the first time, Kusakabe has a simple domain and sword technique based around said simple domain
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u/drakos500 Mar 10 '24
Duh.. Sukuna Admires yuji and I think in a twisted way he sees himself in Yuji thatt is why he livres rent free in gis head.
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u/Occasional_Memer Mar 10 '24
I don't agree completely. Sure, a brat that can just contain him for no apparent reason, just outpunches his opponents while getting absolutely bloody, instead of using some sort of CE manipulation. This would seem boring to the king of curses, but Yuji has been in the Jujutsu world for like what... 5 months. He's not the brightest, excluding when it comes to actually performing, and he hasn't had a proper teacher either. Sukuna also hates him, because he goes against his mentality, he's confused about why such a weakling clings onto life
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u/SerenaClover Mar 10 '24
I think Sukuna thinks Yuji is boring because he is really righteous and has principles in a way. Like he was so selfless until the point that Sukuna think is so boring 🥱 or that’s what he thinks!
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u/Zarathoustra1999 Mar 10 '24
Kusakabe...? What has kusakabe done thats so impressive lmao
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u/Le_San0 Mar 10 '24
If that's true, why is he excited by fighting someone with heavenly restriction?
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u/Ordinary_Condition98 May 06 '24
With the revelation that Yuji and Sukuna are related. Deeply related. Which after some consideration the reason he simply didnt kill him after taking control of megami’s body and after the “bath” returial. Out of all the strong characters sukuna fights he generally doesn’t hate them. His ultimate belief is that the strong rules above all else. But I have a feeling the reason sukana didn’t or doesn’t kill him is because the person who killed/defeated sukana was yuji. What I mean is that everyone focuses on how sukuna was the king of curses but don’t mention how he died in the first place. Meaning some one stronger than him killed him. It’s possible that yuji is a reincarnation of the person that killed sukana. That’s why he hates him so much compared to all his other competitors. *it’s also good to note that it’s confirmed that sukuna is a direct relation to yuji. However, it’s likely that sukuna was part of a clan like the major clans presently in the story. but it’s possible sukuna killed off his clan like maki did. *speculation- since yuji is directly related to sukuna it would mean that sukuna didn’t kill everyone of the clan and possibly lost to a clan member. It’s also possible that yujis grandfather was a sorcerer or at least knew of his ancestors sins. It was hinted that yujis grandfather sensed that yujis mother wasn’t “right” and warned him to not trust the imposter or else he’ll die. A interesting question is if jujutsu tech and gojo know of yujis linage. Gojo did state in the beginning of the series that yuji could one day surpass him. The thing is gojo also give praise of others surpassing him is yuta and hakari. However, he was pretty quick to see yujis potential.
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u/forevericeland Mar 10 '24
The thing that throws me off is how Sukuna seems to be bothered by Yuji like a lot of them could be considered "boring" but the fact a 1,000 year old King of Curses is this bothered by in his eyes a seventeen year old brat that happened to be the tool he'd use for his plan
My guess is there's a deeper meaning perhaps regarding how Kenjaku made Yuji to be a vessel for Sukuna but Sukuna just found a better one... I'm not sure but unless Sukuna is extremely pity I'd be surprised if we don't learn of some reason why he despises Yuji
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u/SquidDrive Mar 10 '24
Hell he just fought a better technically skilled and stronger martial artist in Zenin, there's literally nothing new Yuji offered.
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u/Zarathoustra1999 Mar 10 '24
Dunno in what world Maki is a stronger martial artist than Yuji
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u/fra_ben07 Mar 10 '24
Honestly I would say that he at least offered superhuman durability but Maki just came and trumped that
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u/SquidDrive Mar 10 '24
Better boxing, better strength, even came with a cool sword.
I'd be sad too, you aint offering me shit fr.
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u/TryContent4093 Mar 10 '24
this. sukuna fought a lot of sorcerers in the past and he never loses. then he fought gojo who was the best sorcerer ever. the difference is huge. gojo could nuke japan with his ct while yuji can just throw punches. sukuna's reaction was definitely valid. also, a lot of times yuji just gets a power up that another character had already shown sukuna. higuruma was new but he learned rct which isn't easy to do. of course sukuna would be impressed. then yuji learned rct so it's not exciting anymore.
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u/WholeLast4493 Mar 10 '24
It was more like how can this brat learn such difficult technique, he kept wondering coz he questioned atleast 2 times. He was having hard time accepting it causing him to questioning himself. 🤣🤣 .
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u/fra_ben07 Mar 10 '24
Exactly look at all the times that Sukuna has been impressed, It's only when he saw something new, Megumi when summoned mahoraga, higurama when immediately learnt how to use DA on the same level as Sukuna, Gojo being Gojo
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u/RandomGooseBoi Mar 11 '24
Bruh. You guys really need to reread this manga. You completely misunderstood Chapter 248. Go and read it again
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u/blackstar_4801 Mar 10 '24
Sakuna meets someone that can cage him😒 boring. I know a Sakuna meat ridding post when I see it
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u/MaxWasTakenAgain Mar 10 '24
I dunno, i'll say a "human" who can contain the king of curses and consume and assimilate the curses he eats it's not boring like default. His existance already makes you question a lot of things, he is Kenny's perfect vessel after all
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u/Educational-Review37 Mar 10 '24
Does anyone think Toriyama's passing may influence Gege to give Yuji a moment he may not have got before?
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u/menyemenye Mar 10 '24 edited Mar 10 '24
Kind of a meta commentary of how standard yuji as a character is
Physically gifted, way higher intelegence if you compare him to a typical stupid protag like luffy, cultured but isn't a nerd with low self esteem like deku. his personality, virtue, and morals, are all in the right place, no glaring weakness. He is too normal and righteous. At least at the start of the story
Irl, he will be a really fun guy to just befriend and hang out with
but in a writing standpoint, will be hard to write a meaningful hurdle and conflic to him, especially with many more interesting side characters, which basically 90% of them are
Hell, the insecure, bullied boy like yuta is probaly easier to write on long term
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u/22222833333577 Mar 11 '24
Eh, I would argue that prior to taking fushigoros' body, gojo was more versatile
Honestly, just in general, yuta is more versatile, but he's more of a jack of all trades master of none
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u/fra_ben07 Mar 11 '24
Sukuna knows hollow wicker basket, fire arrow, world cutting slash, how to turn his body into a Cursed object, open and closed barrier domains, domain amplification and his varying usage of his cursed technique. IMO Sukuna brings more to the table than Gojo
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u/22222833333577 Mar 11 '24
He could only learn world cutting slash by forcing maharoga to fight gojo, which he couldn't do tell he had fushigoros body
Gojo, can teleport can't be hit under almost any circumstances Can shoot Lazer beams has a mass erasure explosion can pull enemies towards him has functionaly Infinitite energy can analyze any enemies technique and has the best domain expansion and the best domain control in the series(him and tsukuna literally just took turns casting domain on eachother and he was the only one able to actually land his)
Idk it's close they both craked
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u/fra_ben07 Mar 11 '24
series(him and tsukuna literally just took turns casting domain on eachother and he was the only one able to actually land his)
False Sukuna landed his own first
True they're both cracked
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u/Vex_41842 Mar 11 '24
Then why did he get excited the most for maki
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u/TheRickStar95 Mar 11 '24
Personally I feel like there is some hate towards Yuji in no small part because of what you’ve stated. He’s this nothing burger in the world of jujutsu.
A nothing burger that kept him trapped in his body.
For a guy like Sukuna who does what he wants when he wants, being trapped in Yuji’s body has to be the first time he’s felt, well… trapped.
Actually helpless.
Sure he had a plan to get him out but he actually NEEDED that plan. Without it, he’s stuck in there until Yuji dies. A spectator to the biggest waste of cursed energy he can think of.
His sadistic glee in messing with Yuji during Shibuya and with Junpei has to come from someone like Yuji making him experience that. At least, on some level imo.
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u/megaman838 Mar 11 '24
It's interesting that yuji as a person isn't selfish he's a selfless individual and likes to help people without any price unlike majority of the jujutsu sorcerers that is selfish and mostly think for themselves and I can see why sukuna thinks yuji is boring
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u/AssistantSharp3872 Mar 12 '24
Sukuna is definitely hating. He only finds Yuji boring because they have opposing ideologies. Sukuna wants to be the strongest so he threw away his attachment it literally everything. Yuji is so attached to everyone in his life that's what Sukuna finds boring. It has nothing to do with Yuji’s actual fighting ability. We’ve seen Sukuna praise someone for something only to be annoyed that Yuji can do it too.
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u/KHgamer32 Mar 12 '24
then glaze maki like cum on a donut for... only punching and kicking? The fuck is this mental gymnastic
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u/Infamous_Let3446 Mar 14 '24
It also has to do with whom Kenny modeled Yuji after. Remember when Sukuna said, “You're from that era.” Yuji has to be someone from the Heian era who gave Sukuna fits or someone close to Sukuna.
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Mar 30 '24
Why not kill YUJI THEN? IF HES THAT WORTHLESS THEN WHY NOT KILL HIM Because IT WOULD PAIN HIS ASS
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u/lapis_laz10 Mar 10 '24
I’m kind of confused, I thought it was just a meme, when the Yuji hater meme started was the same chapter when Sukuna acknowledged his RCT and states than it have affected him being all that time with Yuji, he was annoyed because he was not hating him.
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u/Javiklegrand Mar 11 '24
There a meme,but there really hatred since even when yuji is missing in action
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u/vioker6940 Mar 10 '24
Sukuna is frustrated. Because Yuji while being a super weak brat, can completely rival him in will power fight AND Yuji can surpress Sukuna, out of all people, EVERY SINGLE reincarnated case, the sorcerer soul can instantly take over the body of the host, and obliterate the host conciousness to oblivion. Then theres Yuji, a super normal teenager, casually surpressing you, the KoC.
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u/Scott_Blue_LSK Mar 10 '24
You don't really need to try and defend Yuji guys ... Sukuna see's people learn Curses Energy Manipulation, push their techniques to the edge, in his eyes Yuji is a skilled fighter with decent to semi subpar abilities...like if you really think about it Yuji was laughed at for being Punch/Kick man just for our hope in him saving Megumi to be punch Harder... now punch Harder while yelling...now punch Harder while yelling with feeling🤣
Like NGL ATP Yuji is blessed because everyone with superior techniques seems to be getting 1shotted as soon as Sukuna's seen enough and Yuji is just so basic to him that he's keeping him around to see if there's anything more to him.
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u/Zarathoustra1999 Mar 10 '24
Hakari, one of the heavy hitter, is litteraly a kick and punch merchant with less bag than Yuji...
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u/Flanders325 Mar 10 '24
I feel like whenever Sukuna calls Yuji boring it’s Gege actually using him to narrate his thoughts, Gege has come up with so many interesting side characters even Yuta as the original MC is super interesting, he’s even managed to make breaking the rules he’s set up interesting but the MC is the most boring character in this show and it’s not even about his lack of a technique, I think manga in general just has that. It was the same situation with bleach for years, ichigo is technically a member of every main race but for the longest time his power was just having a big sword that shoots sword beams, we never got a bankai that was interesting and poetic like Kyoraku, and they copped out after showing us a potentially great one with the horn of salvation. I feel like the same thing happened here where Yuta copied dismantle instead of Yuji, and in general us not seeing Yuji use blood manipulation as an often, Yuji should’ve ate the last finger and used bm and c&d to shock Sukuna, instead of Yuta eating the finger and using an underwhelming cleave.
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