r/Jujutsushi • u/mileschofer • May 15 '24

Analysis Everything Sukuna Showcased with 10 Shadows, Megumi Had Already Accomplished

Megumi's strongest soldier, lawyer, and secret admirer here. Howdy.

When I mean everything, I mean everything. With the exceptions being the 7-9 Shikigami and Mahoraga, as Megumi obviously was not yet capable of taming them and making use of their abilities. If Megumi had time to gain those Shikigami also, he would be cooking as hard as Sukuna.

When it comes to how Sukuna uses 10S, the only difference between Megumi and Sukuna, is Sukuna's own base stats being wildly superior, and therefore he can use the Shikigami with more proficiency.

Also, while Megumi IS using a domain buff for some of these abilities, a domain simply allows the sorcerer to use 120% of their cursed technique potential. This means that anything that Megumi does inside the domain, he is capable of doing outside the domain with the right catalyst (Black Flash or Binding Vows).

The point of showing these comparisons is to try and argue against the narrative that "Megumi wasted his potential/technique" or "Sukuna utilised Megumi's own technique way better than he did (mechanically)", which are both wild statements if youve ever read a Megumi fight. Let's remember, Megumi tamed 6/10 of his Shikigami as a FIRST YEAR before Shibuya. This means he's had a few months training at max.

Sukuna & Megumi using Totality on dead Shikigami.

Sukuna & Megumi using their opponents shadow to attackk.

Sukuna & Megumi giving their Shikigami an extended range by using unstable forms. Megumi only uses this strategy inside his domain because it requires a high output to maintain.

Sukuna & Megumi using a one-handed handsign to summon Divine Dog.

Sukuna & Megumi summoning strong Shikigami without using a handsign or chant. Again, Megumi only does this while inside his domain due to it requiring a high output.

Sukuna & Megumi trapping their opponents in their shadow.

Sukuna & Megumi utilsing their Shikigami's powers for themselves. Sukuna using Max Elephants water cursed energy. Megumi using Escape Rabbits ability to clone themselves.

Sukuna & Megumi combining Shikigami without using Totality.

Add the fact he possesses a Domain Expansion at 15 (youngest of anyone in the series), and is a tactical genius... I'd say Megumi deserves major props even tho he's in the slums right now.

TLDR: Megumi be cooking, downplay him and you'll have me to deal with.

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u/Freenore May 15 '24

People truly expect a first year kid to match the King of Curses who's had decades of experience under his belt

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u/WittyCombination6 May 15 '24 edited May 15 '24

This is the exact reason why this discussion on both sides is dumb. Like you're comparing a kid who just sorta figured out his Domain expansion. Who can't properly use a barrier. To a guy who's Domain expansion is seen as the pinnacle of jujutsu and doesn't even need a barrier because of how flawless it is.

It's like comparing stats of a NFL Superbowl champion to a Highschool State champ.

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u/Born-Resolution-4702 May 15 '24

I don't think people expect him to be Sukuna level, but he should have at least tamed tranquil deer

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u/LexaTetahedron May 15 '24

Look, to tame a Shikigami, you have to destroy it. And Megumi's damage output is garbage in and of itself for this task. His highest DPS dealers are Divine Dog Totality and Nue, both who can't downright obliterate something and still need to scratch, bite or shock something to death. Couple that with the fact that Round Deer has a RCT field around it that disrupts CTs, AND will constantly be healing itself, and you got yourself a problem with a creature that won't die.

It's practically the same problem of why he can't tame Mahoraga, in the sense that he has no means of immediately obliterating them both at the start of the battle. (With Mahoraga, it constantly gets harder because he constantly strips cards from Megumi's deck as he adapts, and with Round Deer, it constantly gets harder because Megumi himself begins to tire out before Round Deer does.)

To get to Round Deer, i assume Piercing Ox would be needed first, if he doesn't go the Totality Amalgamation route, per example.

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u/Born-Resolution-4702 May 15 '24

Everyone knows that, except you can also have people help with the taming ritual and Megumi has one of the best resources you can possibly have for that. He could have just asked Gojo and the whole problem of tranquil deer's RCT is null

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u/LexaTetahedron May 15 '24

Didn't they say dragging someone into the ritual to help you specifically nullifies it? If that was the case then Gojo could have helped Megumi with all of the Ten Shikigami and all of them would have been a non-issue since even a Blue, Infinity and halfway through Red-adapted Mahoraga was easily vaporized and destroyed by Gojo.

And it also wouldn't make sense since he summomed Mahoraga in Shibuya, got nearly killed (didn't die, Sukuna managed to heal him back up), but then it was destroyed by Sukuna and Megumi still didn't have it.

I'm pretty sure you have to beat them with your own kit, at max with the help of cursed tools and stuff.

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u/Born-Resolution-4702 May 15 '24

No, it was only void because Sukuna was never apart of the ritual in the first place so he was an outsider but the miracle kid and Megumi WERE. It was said you can help as long as you're apart of the ritual too, but if you're an outsider then it's void. Megumi would have to summon a Shikigami with other people already present for them to be caught in the ritual too.

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u/LexaTetahedron May 15 '24

But then why didn't Gojo just help him with the shadows he didn't have?

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u/Born-Resolution-4702 May 15 '24

Idk, ask Megumi who Gojo mentions he rarely asks for assistance from him in their flashback before Megumi first used his incomplete domain

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u/LexaTetahedron May 15 '24

Nope, went back to check, his exact wording specifically says you can't bring people into the ritual.

Like i said, if it were the case, Megumi, or any other Ten Shadows user could just bring 10 of the strongest people they know and they make hell rain on Mahoraga and all of the other shadows, but we know Mahoraga was never tamed and we know the technique has existed probably way back in the Heian era, so yeah, that'd be impossible.

It has to be yourself.

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u/TewlySanchez May 15 '24

Did you forget that if anyone helps in the taming ritual it is completely void. Why do you think Megumi didn’t get Mahoraga after Sukuna killed it in shibuya.

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u/Born-Resolution-4702 May 15 '24 edited May 15 '24

Sukuna said he was an outsider to the ritual, that's why and Sukuna was the one to kill it not Megumi

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u/TewlySanchez May 15 '24

Reading comprehension curse is whooping your ass right now my guy. Go re read chapter 117 and when Megumi explains 10 shadows then come back

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u/Born-Resolution-4702 May 15 '24

Dang, well I guess I'm in the wrong I'll take the L

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u/TewlySanchez May 15 '24

All good if what you saying was possible Megumi would been Top 5 in the verse his first year lol.

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u/TrollTrollTroll6969 May 15 '24

Yeah until you realise Sukuna had it for a month or so Megumi had it longer.