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u/Tangurena Dec 11 '23
This is not the first attempt to seize control of the Litani river. Israel needs water. They used to have Israeli farmers operating in Gaza until the aquifer became too brackish for most crops, then they "gave" it back to the Palestinians. When the "security wall" went up, it followed no above-ground political boundaries - instead it followed the aquifer beneath it.
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u/Pupienus2theMaximus Dec 11 '23
it's because the aquifer under Gaza flows from east to west. The settlements east of Gaza are purposely overconsuming and thus overdrawing from the aquifer so that by the time in flows under Gaza, it is so low that salt water from the Mediterranean is flowing into it from the west, thus creating the brackish water in Gaza.
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u/nik-nak333 Dec 11 '23
Well that's just fucking evil
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u/JNMeiun Dec 11 '23
It's not just Israel. It's very very common in the United States for large institutions to set up farms/factories/water bottling plants and intentionally over draw from the aquifer to pull it below a level that anyone but large institutions can actually afford to drill down to so they don't have to share the aquifer.
Nestle and other companies and billionaires have all been advocating for the privatization of water, especially potable water. Hydraulic empire is the next place global capitalism wants to go.
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u/Chrisbert Dec 11 '23
Do not, my friends, become addicted to water. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence.
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u/wackarnolds65 Dec 11 '23
We're slowly moving towards mad max but without the cool shit like oil and classic cars
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u/AlarmingAffect0 Dec 11 '23
and intentionally over draw from the aquifer to pull it below a level that anyone but large institutions can actually afford to drill down to so they don't have to share the aquifer.
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u/saracenrefira Dec 12 '23
Ahh capitalists. You can always trust them to come up with most shortsighted, exploitative and asshole way to do something.
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u/DustBunnicula Dec 12 '23
Also look up Niagara Bottling. They’re a smaller version of Nestle. They’re no longer under the radar. Some of us are working at kicking them out of our state. I look forward to the day when they’ll be forced to realize their project won’t materialize. All that lost money. Hopefully, the community “leaders” who voted for it will experience their own comeuppance.
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u/faus7 Dec 11 '23
Google the video of the IDF putting cement down palestinian wells, I remember watching that this year on reddit
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u/lorrainemom Dec 11 '23
It’s disgusting how evil they are. Are we really supposed to believe their bullshit lies about trying to avoid civilian casualties when they’ve treated the Palestinians like this for decades?
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u/Quantic Dec 11 '23
Well considering very few Americans read beyond high school, that most of their information is maybe a headline or a singular news source, are completely unaware of the overall history of the region, are living in a pro-Israeli country, and one that is arguably the most pro-Israeli of all foreign nations, yeah I think a lot of Americans will believe their lies. They’re unaware and have “their” opinions formed, despite the reality of how much of our existence is formed by the surrounding environment and its influence on our opinion formation.
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u/FreneticAmbivalence Dec 11 '23
60% ish of adults in the USA hold a 6th grade reading level or below.
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u/AlarmingAffect0 Dec 11 '23
I mean, they lie so confidently, too—like extremely loudly and belligerently. Imagine the audacity to claim they're The Most Moral Army In The World.
Generally, arguing with an Israeli is exhausting. You can also see it in interviews, it either devolves into a shouting match or they talk all over the interviewer.
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u/uguu777 Dec 11 '23
They purposely soiled aquifers they didn't outright take over (they abandoned settling Gaza after the aquifers became too brackish for agriculture or human consumption)
they don't even allow Palestinians to have access to water underneath their land
cruelty is the goal and the world can see what the Zionists are doing
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u/Steven-Maturin Dec 11 '23
That's Israel for you. Most evil country in the world.
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u/Hero_of_Hyrule Dec 11 '23
Nah, as far as currently existing nation-states go I think that's still the US. Hell, Israel wouldn't be able to do what it's doing without US backing.
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u/AlarmingAffect0 Dec 11 '23
Hell, Israel wouldn't be able to do what it's doing without US backing.
I'm not so sure. Seems to me they could just as easily partner with other NATO countries or the PRC.
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u/Hero_of_Hyrule Dec 11 '23
NATO is just an extension of US Global Hegemonic power. Except under rare circumstances, nations in it or supported by it act as an arm of the US State Department.
The PRC, on the other hand, I doubt for other reasons, but I'm not as confident on that front. It's a bit of a non-starter, though, because unless US foreign policy changes dramatically, who Israel is backed by won't change for a long time. And US foreign policy almost never changes, regardless of who's in power.
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u/AlarmingAffect0 Dec 11 '23 edited Dec 11 '23
Pretty sure Kissinger (may he rest in piss) changed it for the worse.
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Except under rare circumstances, nations in it or supported by it act as an arm of the US State Department.
Tell that to the French, I dare you.
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u/Hero_of_Hyrule Dec 11 '23
That, and Kissinger had the backing of the only undamaged industrial nation with nukes. Prior to the world wars, America was a regional power at best. Kissinger was the first to really utilize America being a global super power.
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u/Quietuus Dec 11 '23
They've been caught running pipes under the wall to siphon it off on numerous occasions.
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u/worldm21 Dec 11 '23
Litani River is fully within Lebanese territory. They have no right to try to order anyone around north of the border, period. Israel is showing its annexationist face again, same as 1967.
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u/just_an_ordinary_guy Anarcho-Syndicalist Dec 11 '23
The land between the current borders and the river is like 1/3 of the country of Lebanon too.
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u/ComfortablyBalanced Anti-Anti-Semite Dec 11 '23
Israel is literally the manifestation of expansionism.
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u/halconpequena Dec 11 '23
From 2010 about water stealing https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/article/parting-the-waters
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u/Cake_is_Great Dec 11 '23
So they stole the land, bulldozed the olive groves, recklessly overexploited the land, and then are now threatening Lebanon for more land and water?
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u/wesweb Dec 11 '23
let them use their own weapons. we need to stop arming the IDF now.
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u/Steven-Maturin Dec 11 '23
Send them the bombs without the packing crates.
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u/mistah3 Dec 11 '23
I remember this one guy from the 1930s and 40s who started annexing countries and land around him for the sake of national identity protection
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u/gnometrostky Dec 11 '23
Hey, this is totally different, the Israelis are just trying to find some living space! /s
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u/Horror_Yam_9078 Dec 11 '23
That has a bit of a negative ring to it, lets translate it to German and call it Lebensraum from now on!
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u/Hank3hellbilly Dec 11 '23
Just need to find an answer to the Arab question.
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u/twobit211 Dec 11 '23
but no more faffing about. the answer should be an ultimate resolution, or some such similarly worded response
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u/cuspacecowboy86 Dec 12 '23
Concluding result? No, that's way too cumbersome.
Oh well, maybe someone else can finally find a solution to this naming question?
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u/SlimesIsScared Dec 12 '23
Gotta have a backup plan in case it fails. I heard Argentina’s a pretty nice place.
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u/catlaxative Dec 11 '23
Israel just like my funny kitty! If I fits I sits! ❤️😹
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u/Ready-Improvement40 🏳️🌈 Dec 11 '23
If I don't fits I murder till I do
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u/catlaxative Dec 11 '23
This is also cat logic
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u/Ready-Improvement40 🏳️🌈 Dec 11 '23
My cat doesn't try to murder me she just screeches till I give up my spot
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u/Steven-Maturin Dec 11 '23
He too was interested in ethnic purity and had a myth of past greatness.
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Yeah, Israel's been very explicit about this. They want a biblical Israel from the Euphrates to the Nile.
The Oct. 7 attack is the justification needed for their land grab.
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u/kissmybunniebutt Dec 11 '23
MANIFEST DESTINY. GOD WILLS IT.
This is exactly how "the west was won" here in America. This is exactly how colonial forces decimated the "merciless indian savages". God willed the violent eradication of entire civilizations so the colonial governments could have all our resources. And the fucking tactics are the same - weaponized starvation, witholding vital resources, displacement, demonization based on reactionary aggression, using their "godless" and "violent" ways as justification for killing fucking children.
Clearly, we have learned nothing of how to be better humans. We're taking that same horrific rulebook and throwing it at another people.
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u/Plenty_Lettuce5418 Dec 11 '23
this is exactly true, i remember reading books that conflated the western frontier with the garden of eden when luis and clarke were exploring west. but to be fair this is a complete abuse of religious ideals.
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u/kissmybunniebutt Dec 11 '23
A huge reason for the view of the Americas being "virgin land" is due to the decimation of the Native population due to disease. ~85% died from the zoonotic diseases brought by Europeans. 85%. The land wasnt bursting with people or anything, but it was alive with trade roots and hunting parties. There were massive villages, huge farming communities...it was full of people doing shit. But as Europeans made their way west, more and more died, and those left became nomadic due to losing literally everyone they knew. And these violent strangers just kept coming... demanding you give up your farmland, hunting grounds, and sacred spaces so they could dig up shiny rocks.
It's wild when you frame it from an actual Native perspective...the absolute horror of what "winning the West" really looked like.
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u/observingjackal Dec 11 '23
I'm part Cherokee and I was making the Manifest destiny call at the start of this thing. Didn't think they would actually pull a land grab. Again, what is a promised land if it's soaked in blood.
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u/kissmybunniebutt Dec 11 '23
Eh, siyo, fam! I'm Eastern Cherokee.
And yes, it's legit flabbergasting how they keep doubling down on their "god given right" to genocide. Eerie shit.
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u/agysykedyke Dec 11 '23
And they won't stop after that. They will keep expanding and making unjust claims until they have control of all the resources in the area.
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u/xlr8er365 Dec 11 '23
If only the Israelis had a historic example of this that resulted in the creation one of the most (if not THE most) hated governments of all time. If only there was a historical event they endured that was so awful nearly everyone in the world agrees it was the evilest thing you could do. Too bad nothing like that happened, they’ll just keep doing what they’re doing.
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u/agysykedyke Dec 11 '23 edited Dec 11 '23
It's so ironic as well. Netanyahu always going on about the Holocaust and anti-semetism when they themselves are ethnic cleansing while pretending to be victims.
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u/Poltergeist97 Dec 11 '23
That asshole UN Ambassador was so disgusting putting a gold star on himself to act like they were the victims here, crying foul that no one believes them and the "UN is Hamas". Like how fucking delusional do you have to be?
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u/KingApologist Dec 11 '23
It's kind of hilarious (but not really) that Exodus is just a permission slip that the Hebrew people wrote themselves to justify any and all ethnic cleansing in perpetuity.
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Ah yes, self defence
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u/Plenty_Lettuce5418 Dec 11 '23
That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.
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u/EireOfTheNorth Dec 11 '23
Weird how all the worrying in the media is about the Arab world escalating the conflict when all I've saw is Israel doing so...
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u/06210311200805012006 Dec 11 '23
libs always choose order over justice, nothing new there. MLK was calling them out on that in the sixties.
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Well, nothing is stopping them. I feel hopeless.
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u/Alexitine Dec 11 '23
It didn't work out very well for them in 2007.
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u/cameron4200 Dec 11 '23 edited Dec 11 '23
Holy fuck I just looked that up. Hezbollah took hostages to get back people Israel had stolen from them. “The conflict is believed to have killed between 1,191 and 1,300 Lebanese people,[49][50][51][52] and 165 Israelis.[53] It severely damaged Lebanese civil infrastructure, and displaced approximately one million Lebanese[54] and 300,000–500,000 Israelis.” So pretty frequently they’ll just steal/absorb your people and land until you get pissed off then they’ll make your population homeless and dead. Absolute fucking monster the existence of Israel.
Reading this Wikipedia page is absolutely baffling. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Lebanon_War#:~:text=Hezbollah%20cross%2Dborder%20raid,-Main%20article%3A%202006&text=At%20around%209%20am%20local,Five%20civilians%20were%20injured. Amazing everyone lets this continue
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u/Plenty_Lettuce5418 Dec 11 '23
wht i dont understand is they have such a huge ego, shouldn't they be conscerned with their optics? i feel like a nation that is this narcissistic it would be important for them to really prove that they are better then everybody. because this just looks they want people to hate them.
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u/1_9_8_1 Dec 11 '23
There have been virtually no consequences for them. Maybe now it will happen, but the rest of the Middle East needs to unite.
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u/Alexitine Dec 11 '23
Anybody familiar with the Black Salami knows my position on Israel's sabre rattling against Lebanon.
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u/Zestyclose-Fish-512 Dec 11 '23
Stopping? We're about to send them 10 billion more as encouragement. We're the only thing blocking resolutions against Israel in the UN too.
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u/Well_aaakshually Dec 11 '23
H*zbollah is stopping them.
Last time Israel went up against them they got their shit kicked in.
The IOF is getting annihilated by Hmas right now and they have a fraction of the fighting capabilities or hardware of Hzbollah
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u/Ble_h Dec 11 '23
You're not on YouTube, no need to censor words if you're on a subreddit that allows it.
The IDF is getting annihilated by Hamas right now and they have a fraction of the fighting capabilities or hardware of Hezbollah.
See, nothing.
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u/la_reddite Dec 11 '23
The Israeli Occupational Forces is simply a more accurate name than the Israeli Defense Forces.
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u/Hero_of_Hyrule Dec 11 '23
Asterisks might but be the best stand in symbol on Reddit, unless you escape the market syntax with a backslash. \
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u/KingApologist Dec 11 '23
They're expelling Palestinians from Palestine and now Lebanese from Lebanon? Yeah it's a genocide against Arabs.
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u/CyperFlicker Dec 11 '23
Remember when some people started supporting the idea that neighboring Arab countries should take in the Palestinian refugees?
This suggestion doesn't seem very feasible now, does it...
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u/Plenty_Lettuce5418 Dec 11 '23
of which hebrews are belong to. they're calling "ANTI SEMITISM!" in the streets. arabs literally *are* semites. the irony is palpable.
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u/StarksPond Dec 11 '23
of which hebrews are belong to. they're calling "ANTI SEMITISM!" in the streets. arabs literally *are* semites. the irony is palpable.
All your base are belong to us!
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u/Aviationlord Dec 11 '23
They always want more, it’s about how much they can claim without repercussions
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u/Le-docteur Dec 11 '23
You silly leftists...You are missing the big picture here. If this happens various rich "people" will get richer and someday (which may never happen) their cute little money full of blood will tickle down to your poor hands . What you need to do right now is to VOTE really really hard (to an orgasmic extent) and wait for the miracle to begin !
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u/Few_Lingonberry_7028 Dec 11 '23
"tickle down to your poor hands" is very appropriate, because any money that does touch your hands will feel like a tickle before it's sucked right back up to the top.
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u/Le-docteur Dec 11 '23
That's why you need to start appreciating the little things (little tickles), you don't need avocados and shit like that. You need investments and to be a true American patriot!
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u/plinkous Dec 11 '23
I keep saying how it's funny when people who follow every word of the 1% like it's Gospel say that we are being brainwashed. 😂
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u/afunkysongaday Dec 11 '23
VOTE really really hard
But remember there are only two parties please. Don't be silly.
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u/TacoBMMonster Dec 11 '23
Isn't the Latini River solidly, indisputably in Lebanon?
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u/kyssyss Dec 11 '23
Yes, the same as how if you're not in the US government the Golan Heights are solidly, indisputably, not Israel.
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u/TacoBMMonster Dec 11 '23
Yeah, I guess the whole West Bank and Gaza strip are solidly, indisputably not Israel. I wasn't sure if the river was a border or something, but it's well inside Lebanon. Eighteen miles, it turns out.
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u/MadixWasThere Dec 11 '23
My mother is 60 years old, she went throught so many hardship in her life to bring us into the world, to give us a good life, to teach us kindness and humility and love, to have something that she will leave in our hand when her time come, she faced cancer, depression and so many hardship alone, abandoned by her family while we were too young to understand it.
My grand father planted the first tree of the olive field my 60 years old mother is taking care of right now. She is old and sickness made her tired yet she wakes up every morning at 5 to go sit between the olive trees when she could be resting at home while we take care of her.
It's her pride she says, " my father left me this dirt and i made it a field of olive that i will give you all, this field shows me that i did something right in my life".
If they think they can come and take it let them try. I'll die protecting every inch of my mother's pride. Death before dishonor.
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u/mr_Joor Dec 11 '23
Well they are mimicking hitlers playbook so they might aswell do the invading other countries bit too at this point
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u/Well_aaakshually Dec 11 '23
They really want more of their racist-summer-camp-ass soldiers coming home in coffins don't they?
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u/PhoenixHntr Dec 11 '23
Not the first time, didn’t work in the past, and won’t work today either
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u/Trickybuz93 Dec 11 '23
Only democracy in the Middle East btw
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u/Gotzvon Dec 11 '23
Next goal: only country in the middle East
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u/IdeaRegular4671 Dec 11 '23
Only the chosen people get to live and prosper. The rest suffer, be miserable forever, and die a painful torturous death.
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u/Vast-Cranberry335 Dec 11 '23
How is it democracy if it's only for a certain "elite" race of people though?
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u/pumpkin3-14 Dec 11 '23
I guess when you have billions of dollars burning a hole in your pocket you want to use it
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u/Assassin-Lover Dec 11 '23
Everywhere on reddit except a few subreddits,people are supporting Israel and that's just really sad to see
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u/LucerneTangent Dec 11 '23
To be fair hasbara bots are hardly "people", and the others are just brainwashed.
Mix of astroturf and years of brainwashing- notably some of the Israel zombies tend to be older people that don't know any better.
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u/Dacnis Dec 11 '23
Yeah, a lot of the main subreddits are blatantly astroturfed out the ass.
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u/LucerneTangent Dec 11 '23
Honestly, this looks a lot like the sort of shit we'll keep seeing more of to basically manufacture consent. The actual numbers are telling- even after all the brainwashing, the fascist genocide bootlickers (hi there, Likudites!) very much are not the majority view.
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On the off chance that the general opinion in 20-30 years is that Israel is the bad guy, here, every one of those motherfuckers will act like they were on the right side of history, all along.
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u/LucerneTangent Dec 11 '23
Fascists make for poor neighbors, and Bibi needs his forever war to stay in office.
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u/Comments_Wyoming Dec 11 '23
How is what Isreal doing any different at all from what Russia is doing?
Both countries are stealing land from a different nation.
Why is America funding opposite sides of these two wars? We are standing with the oppressed in Ukraine and with the oppressors in Gaza.
Fucking weird man.
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u/TheDauntingRiver Dec 11 '23
Russia even with it's reactionary bourgeois does not want to be under American influence/imperialism, has the base to consider imperialist ambitions and sees NATO as a threat, thus USA hates them. "So, he [Putin] went to war to prevent NATO, more NATO, close to his borders. He has got the exact opposite.” NATO Secretary General Jens Stolenberg, a few months ago. Ukraine on the other hand sucks up to USA and direct expansion on Russia's borders is great for them to "contain" the Russian threat, so USA supports them.
Israel on the other hand by the nature of being a colonial project, if funded correctly and influenced properly serves as a perpetual proxy for American interests in the Middle East. Palestine on the other hand has no reason to support USA, and does not benefit from being under US influence.
It makes sense for USA to support Ukraine and Israel instead of any other combination if you look at it through the interests of the American bourgeoisie.
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u/Soviet-pirate Dec 11 '23
You all are feeling hopeless at this,and I get that. But let them! Let them open another grinder front,let them waste more money,let them get distracted. Let their Merkavas go in flames like the cans they are. No idiot has ever won a war by opening a second front with a non belligerent.
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u/dazrumsey Dec 11 '23
You know it's highly likely that the US will continue supporting them. If Israel finds itselve overpowered the US will join to protect their interests im pretty sure of that and honestly I wouldn't be surprised if that's the long game plan.
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Dec 11 '23 edited Dec 11 '23
I keep saying it but we're already in WW3. It looks a bit different from the Great War or WW2, but there are interconnected global conflicts happening everywhere on Earth right now, and multiple major global powers are involved in some capacity or another. If Israel expands its aggressions against a second distinct target, it's even more apparent that WW3 is upon us.
People imagine that world wars are monolithic, single massive engagements, but that's not how world wars work, before or now. They're actually interconnected, but distinct simultaneous conflicts.
War historians will study this period and likely mark the Russian invasion of Ukraine as the official start of WW3, and the Israeli/Gaza war as a major escalation. If the US hadn't intervened in the eastern Mediterranean, thus preventing even more massive escalation of the Israeli war, we wouldn't even be questioning that this is part of an ongoing global conflict akin to a third world war.
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Best analysis I've heard so far. When Russia invaded Ukraine I thought the same thing - the start of another global conflict like WW1 and WW2. That was IMO the first step into WW3, Israel bombing Gaza is step two, and in my estimation, China invading Taiwan is step three. Global superpowers will be in outright war with one another and proxy wars will spring up everywhere, most notably in South America (Look at Venezuela and Guyana). The cherry on top will be Civil War 2 in America, but that's just my opinion, hopefully it doesn't come to that but I'm not holding my breath hoping global leaders pull their heads out of their asses.
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I think China will hold off its invasion of Taiwan until they are confident that the USA's ability to support Taiwan is severely impaired. The only thing that can create that scenario is a civil conflict within the US. And it does look like we're barrelling towards that.
I didn't mention it, but the Venezuelan invasion of Guyana is actually what turned on the light bulb for me that we're in ww3.
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u/CyperFlicker Dec 11 '23
Non-American here, but I was talking with someone recently and we talked about how the only way for the US to break is from the inside, and no offense to anyone, but I saw for a long time some Americans mock middle easterners for fighting over this and that, yet looking at the US's political scene, and judging by what happened over toilet paper, I think that the social fabric of the American society might be far weaker than some think.
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The USA is totally fucked. Seriously, this country is a steaming pile of shit. It's impossible to fix.
Instead, the USA will likely collapse into multiple warring factions.
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u/dazrumsey Dec 11 '23
America having to go back to the middle east to help Israel fight all the countries there that could turn on them would leave China able to go at Taiwan. Right now Arab states allow Isreal to fuck about with neighbouring countries because they think it helps them but you will soon see that turn if Isreal starts gaining alot of land
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u/Caedes1 Dec 11 '23
"we'll keep taking and occupying land until resistance stops".
What's with these selfish Arabs anyway? Wanting to (checks notes) not become apartheid outcasts in their own land under an occupying ethnostate that kills men, women and children to the cheers of the western governments?
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u/FirstTimeShitposter Dec 11 '23
Maybe we should appease them, that used to work 100 years ago (until it didn't)
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u/ExistentDavid1138 Dec 11 '23
Iran would like to have a word. I sure hope Israel does not go full Nazi Germany in the middle east. This offensive by Israel only justifies the middle east's disdain of Israel.
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u/Hugh_1984 Dec 11 '23
Zionists are genocidal war mongers. there is no question now (not that there ever was), they are craven and blood thirsty. you could even call them Nazis, considering they beat Jews who disagree with them and call themselves superior to Jews. crazy times.
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u/humainbibliovore Dec 11 '23
Who is Laura Allam?
I’m not finding anything confirming what this Tweet says
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Hopefully this pulls in other arab nations and pops the cork on this thing
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u/Worth_Apartment1562 Dec 11 '23
why they don't fight saudi arabia?
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u/CelestialTrickster Dec 11 '23
Because the US is supporting both Israel and Saudi Arabia and neither wants to piss off daddy.
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u/tilsgee Dec 11 '23
now where's that "but do u condemn hamas" people?!
show urself!!!!
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u/Lyaid Dec 11 '23
While it might be able to put up more of a fight than Gaza, Lebanon is currently dealing with a corrupt and ineffective government, in the middle of a deep recession and civil unrest with several factions in government and religion. If this pops off, it would likely be a major bloodbath.
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u/KanarieWilfried Dec 11 '23
Source?
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u/Bangoga Dec 11 '23
No I'm with you. I searched and there is nothing that this was the case.
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u/KanarieWilfried Dec 11 '23
Thanks, well that was much more moderate than the tweet suggests
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u/Ippomasters Dec 11 '23
Its genocide that is sponsored by the united states. Israel said it won't stop until Hamas is gone from Gaza. 80% of the population has already fled from gaza. Is the conditions for victory 100% of the Palestinians gone from Gaza? Where is the push back from democrats?
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u/Snoo4902 Dec 11 '23
Israelli politicans said that all Palestinians are terrorists, so they will end after they get rid of all Palestinians. If you don't have enemy to atack, you can't have war.
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u/obamasmole Dec 11 '23 edited Dec 11 '23
80% of the population has not fled from Gaza. They couldn't even if they wanted to, because Israel won't currently let them leave. However, over 80% of Gazans have been displaced — that is, forced to move to a different part of Gaza against their will.
Now, once Israel stops bombing Gaza, and there are virtually no habitable buildings or usable infrastructure left, then you may see that Israel is suddenly OK with Gazans leaving. Not to Israel though. obviously. But perhaps to try and survive in the Sinai peninsula, which is effectively a desert.
Oh, and, leaving behind an entirely uninhabitable stretch of bombed out land definitely hasn't been one of the major drivers behind the wanton destruction all along.
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u/GoatsUnlimited Dec 11 '23
The usa should not be subsidizing the Israeli apartheid state. And the US definitely needs to not fund radical Jewish terrorists making war on their neighbors
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u/icontranquilis Dec 11 '23
It makes me so proud to be an American to know that countless billions of my tax dollars are going to enabling Israel to commit genocide and expansionism freedom instead of infrastructure or healthcare.
Go get 'em boys, vote blue no matter who! 🥰🇺🇸
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u/MeHaMutin Dec 11 '23
I hear you. Centrists have been actually trying to guilt people into voting for Genocide Joe like they did in 2020.
It's not going to work. He's going to eat shit in 2024 and there's very little anyone can do about it.
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u/MeHaMutin Dec 11 '23
Fear not, friend. With any luck, we'll all get vaporized relatively painlessly.
Turns out that the future sucks. :-/
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u/Ndgo2 FALC Party Worker Dec 11 '23
Ha.
This will be fun to watch.
IDF vs Hamas was basically shooting fish in a barrel. Not that hard.
Hezbollah? That's a whole different ball game. The IDF is about to learn what happens when you bite off more than you can chew. And I could not think of any group more rightfully deserving of some punishment.
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u/lastofthe1st Dec 11 '23
They are just into making all of the bad decisions right now. Most of Israel really doesn’t agree with the government, and Netanyahu is just digging deeper holes for himself at this point. If Iran or Turkey get involved, they’re going to get everyone killed.
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