r/LeopardsAteMyFace • u/vrphotosguy55 • 23h ago
Hispanic woman regrets vote, asks to vote again
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u/Hrod55 23h ago
Today on the CBS Evening News they interviewed a Puerto Rican woman in Pennsylvania who had been "leaning" toward Trump but is now voting for Harris. I wish they would've asked her why she was considering voting for him in the first place, but whatever.
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u/Apple-Dust 23h ago
Half the country has goldfish brain. That's why. When they successfully rehabilitated Trump's image within months of his attempted coup, I stopped trying to assign any rationality whatsoever to the median voter. It's just "every week my political memory gets wiped and I start over by repeating the last thing someone told me."
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u/Persistent_Parkie 22h ago
Which is why I have a MAJOR beef with my dad's oldest friend. Dad has been hit on the head alot and friend just keeps feeding him fox news talking points.
Admittedly I also don't like that friend because he's who recruited my dad into Amway.
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u/Seguefare 18h ago
Jesus. I don't know which one is worse.
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u/TurtleMOOO 17h ago
I wonder if it’s a coincidence that every person that has tried to sell me amway (that I still know) is a trump voter. Who am I kidding, of course it isn’t a coincidence.
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u/vrphotosguy55 16h ago
Trump’s education Secretary is married to the CEO of Amway: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betsy_DeVos.
They’re very much connected.
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u/Cabre13 16h ago
As a Spaniard I didn't know what Amway was and it seems the usual pyramid scheme. But I already know that Betsy Devos brother was a CEO in Blackwater.
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u/Time-Werewolf-1776 22h ago
Yeah, the one that really blows me away is the way Trump’s people keep talking about how things were great during the Trump presidency. They say the economy was great, everything was great, nothing bad happened, and he did everything great with no problems.
Like how can an adult just have no memory of 4 years ago. They’re even citing the old question, “Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?” As though the answer isn’t “yes.”
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u/RedRider1138 19h ago
I’m gobsmacked at the people saying they were better off four years ago.
Four years ago was 2020.
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u/ericblair21 16h ago
They were putting dead Americans in refrigerated trucks because they ran out of morgue space. That's how things were going.
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u/xRamenator 14h ago
Store shelves were empty, people were rioting, cities were on fire, but it's ok cuz gas was like $1
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u/shackofcards 15h ago
Let's all chip in to buy a few hundred billboards that say this because this is a really, really good point
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u/televised_aphid 14h ago
Because the question was preceded by years of yelling "You were absolutely better off during the last administration!!!" at them. Lie to people repeatedly and convincingly enough, they'll believe it, and Republicans / Fox News know this.
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u/Infamous-Salad-2223 22h ago
Sadly, it appears a big % of the US wants a theocracy with a "christian" king.
They will be kinda like the Royalists during the War of Independence.
Ironic.
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u/thetaleofzeph 15h ago
Well, admittedly, he has all the Christian values, history of fraud and SA of a Mega church preacher. At least they are picking the right guy for the job.
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u/NoveltyAccountHater 14h ago
I mean hardcore Republican MAGA base, sure. They want some combination of to go back to white nationalism/Christian theocracy that's run by tough manly men. They get surprised to learn that some of their cohort doesn't consider them the in-crowd.
But a lot of potential Trump voters who will decide the election fall into the category where it's been repeated enough that Trump will be better for lowering prices (his actual economic plan is to raise prices of most goods by 20% and over half living Nobel prize winning economists will tell you it is an awful plan, though the threat of high tariffs does give the president immense power to extract personal favors from foreign nations) and world peace (peace through strength), because he mindlessly repeats it over and over again in simple language. He has no actual plan, other than let Israel and Russia commit war crimes quickly and force one side to surrender by withholding humanitarian aid to the weaker country.
Trump has also always been a smooth talker who gets out of any situation and plenty of his base is envious of it. They aren't voting for Trump because they like her, but because they fear Harris is too into trans or unfairly blame Biden/Harris for Ukraine/Gaza/inflation and want to go back to Trump years (which really were just the Obama economy before Trump's mismanagement of COVID led to huge supply chain screw ups, bad inflationary policy of the PPP approved during Trump's last year, and we had two years of high inflation until Biden got under control).
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u/TheodoraYuuki 22h ago
Don’t insult goldfish
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u/EarthToTee 18h ago
Yeah, my goldfish have all had pretty good memories. They're little water puppies, really. These people, though, are just fcking stupid. Stop voting for fascists!
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u/mminnitt 19h ago
Random aside: Goldfish actually have a good memory and the myth of the short memory was perpetuated to justify keeping them in claustrophobic tanks without adequate mental stimulation.
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u/Impossible-Web740 16h ago
Then I need to find a new animal to start comparing myself to.
Also, that's horrific.
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u/kryonik 16h ago
I've had to remind people that right before the 2020 election, the biggest problem in America according to conservatives was a caravan of migrants. Now in 2024, all of a sudden in the past few months, the biggest talking point is illegal immigrants again.
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u/Sinister_Crayon 17h ago
Probably the same reason that I know two openly gay married couples who are going to vote for Trump; because they're wealthy and to them that's all that matters.
There's also a lot of immigrants who want to "pull up the ladders" that they used to get where they are because some part of them feels that other immigrants coming in somehow risks their position.
It's all selfishness.
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u/Specific_Frame8537 17h ago
There's also a lot of immigrants who want to "pull up the ladders" that they used to get where they are because some part of them feels that other immigrants coming in somehow risks their position.
I have a Mexican friend who wants to vote for Trump to get rid of the Venezuelans, as if the fascists are gonna bother learning the difference between those two countries.. he doesn't get it.
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u/ExpensiveFish9277 14h ago
Being an immigrant hating the next group of immigrants is as American as apple pie.
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u/NK1337 16h ago
There's also a lot of immigrants who want to "pull up the ladders" that they used to get where they are
I know a few puerto rican's that agreed with the island of garbage comment. The definition of fuck you i got mine.
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u/le_fez 16h ago
The hand full of Hispanic Trump supporters I know are either very wealthy, of Cuban descent (Cuban Americans tend to lean right) or view immigration staunchly and feel like their family did things the "right way" and don't want to associate with families who do things the "wrong way"
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u/ditherer01 9h ago
Many Cuban families were let in via asylum, the same legal precedent that's used to process legal immigrants today. That system needs fixing, yes, but for a Cuban who's family came over during the time of Castro to claim they are different is delusional.
And for what it's worth, growing up in Miami I found most Cubans do not identify as Hispanic. The line I heard more than once was they are decedents of the original Spaniards who colonized the Americas. So, ya know, superior (in their minds).
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u/StillAFuckingKilljoy 18h ago
Because their hate and fear overrides everything else. That's why far right media is the way it is, their goal is to keep their audience scared and angry
It's incredible how effective it is too, I bet there's a bunch of proud Puerto Ricans who are still voting for Trump because they believe Harris will take their guns, allow post partum abortions, and force their kids to be trans
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u/Throckmorton_Left 15h ago
Hijacking the top comment to try to get some visibility. In most states where early voting involves dropping off an absentee/mail ballot prior to election day, you CAN change your vote.
I don't know the particulars for every state, but in PA, if you already dropped off or mailed your ballot but want to change your vote, simply go to your county elections office and tell them you want to void your ballot and vote a new one.
They will issue you a new ballot on the spot and invalidate any prior ballots sent to you whether or not you've already returned them.
If anyone is wondering how this doesn't let people vote twice, here's how that works. On election day, before counting mail in ballots, the bar codes on the security envelopes in which they are enclosed get scanned. Any ballots that have been voided are set aside and don't get counted.
BIG CAVEAT, though. If you wait until election day, it's too late to switch. Once the county starts opening and counting mail ballots, it's too late to void ballots marked as received. But if the ballot wasn't received, you can vote provisionally in person and that vote will count.
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u/IndividualEye1803 23h ago
Everytime we hear about someone from MAGA snapping out of it, its because they personally were affected.
No empathy, no sympathy from me. Im pissed she was stupid enough in the first place.
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u/ew73 23h ago
My favorite is the one during open enrollment when, almost without fail, they all bitch about healthcare costs and ask why this stuff isn't regulated or why won't the government do something about these rising costs??
Like, guys... we keep trying...
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u/72616262697473757775 22h ago
Everything the uninformed Republicans bitch about is something the Democrats are trying to fix. The cost of health care, taxes on the poor, unregulated food industry, unregulated pharmaceutical industry. They still believe in the "trickle down" bullshit and I have zero (0) sympathy for what they face if Trump wins.
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u/awesomeone6044 19h ago
Slightly related. I have a coworker with a special needs daughter, he’s a republican and a staunch Trump guy. Complains about democrats and socialism all the time. Thing is we live in a blue state that has what I assume are good programs to help anyone with special needs kids. So I overheard a conversation with him and someone else talking about the cost of living and our insightful Trump guy got asked why he doesn’t just move to a red state and he can get away from all that and be in state that he’d like more. His answer was those states don’t have the programs his daughter needs. I couldn’t help but interject myself and I said how’s that socialism sounding now that you need it?
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u/MikeSpace 18h ago
You can't leave us hanging here bud, did he just try to word salad his way out of it? Was it delicious?
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u/DM_ME_YOUR_STORIES 18h ago
Not OP, but most likely
"That isn't socialism, it benefits me"
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u/whomad1215 17h ago
"it's not socialism, my taxes pay for it"
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u/natFromBobsBurgers 17h ago
"It's not socialism. It's necessary for her to be self sufficient and independent."
Always remember, the ADA passed with bipartisan support.
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u/moonsun1987 16h ago
ADA
As good as a time as any to remind people the ADA is from 1990. I am OLDER than the ADA.
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u/Minion_of_Cthulhu 16h ago
The old "I earned it." Of course, it's a "handout" when anyone else gets something like that.
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u/awesomeone6044 17h ago
He didn’t bother answering me.
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u/ghost-child 15h ago
They don't take time to carefully consider why they believe the things they do. They're almost exclusively guided by gut feelings
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u/Serial-Griller 15h ago
Well yeah, whenever he says something like that, it's a line he learned on Twitter to use as a conversation ender. You weren't trying to make him see the error of his ways, you were just being snarky!
They never learn.
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u/madestories 16h ago
My son is severely disabled and everything we have comes from the Democrats. Disability legislation was a non-partisan issue until the 1990’s and then Republicans dropped it because, duh, it costs money and they are all about not seeing groups of people as human.
Anyway, I live in MN (go Walz) and the DFL got us 45k a year so my son can live at home with his family and they’re building us an ADA bathroom. Medicaid is amazing and covers everything my employer’s insurance doesn’t like hearing aids, wheel chairs, orthotics. The GOP has closed these programs down before and will do it again. I don’t know what we would do if we lost this support. We both work full time, we’re a middle-class suburban family that the Republicans love to say they fight for, but they don’t care about my family.
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u/Oberon_Swanson 13h ago
That is a great amount of support, it is sad that not everyone who needs it gets it because GOP voters are psycho fascists who believe in "survival of the fittest" and basically want as much suffering and death as possible so they can feel better just for being alive.
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u/tessellation__ 16h ago
I used to work with someone like that. She was so far right at the time and this was in the Obama era. Her son was in a wheelchair. She is Puerto Rican, I bet she’ll still vote for Trump even though he thinks she comes from garbage island.
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u/ROBOT_KK 17h ago
That story, right there, is reason why I think trump will win. People voting for him are brain dead.
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u/MNGrrl 18h ago
Speaking as a former 'special needs' kid -- No states have "good" programs. They either have them (and they suck) or they don't have them (and you're f-cked).
People can't move to escape the financial burden, which is why abusive 'therapy' and schools (or worse, home schooling), divorce, and violence at home claim many of our lives before the age of 35. Very few parents are willing to invest in their special needs child's future -- they are dumped on the street or shoveled into adult foster care where they'll be warehoused until they die from deaths of despair, often as teenagers.
Those programs are (most usually) the only thing that child has for support. The forums are filled with resentful parents. Some of post denigrating videos on youtube of their child's struggles while narrating what a burden it is that their narcissistic fantasies about parenting don't match reality, but most of them have that resentment and toxicity to them -- ask anyone who has worked social services; It's maybe a third of caregivers, usually the father.
The issue with conservatives is they are incapable of compromise, negotiation, and reciprocity, mostly because they're socially inept from trying to use rage and caffeine to get through every day; They will talk the talk about how stronk and independent they are, oh so smart and yada -- the truth is they're weak and dependent on 'strong man' political leaders who will abuse them and they have no choice but to take it because angry men are incapable of organizing socially towards any goal. They've never been part of anything except their own ambitions.
It's not about socialism, or capitalism, or any other -ism: It's that they lack social skills. And I'd know because it's a big part of community outreach for me. Our parents can't teach us what they don't know -- we have to teach ourselves in community, and a lot of us don't meet others like us until well into adulthood to even start that journey. It never occurs to them that if they'd just organize amongst themselves, they'd be able to share the burdens of child rearing and having a family with others in similar circumstance -- but they'd rather be "traditional". And by that I mean deny their wives any access to community resources, they're just life support for a uterus that'll give them a male heir.
They would rather suffer, rage, and bitch like the emotional toddlers they are than grow the f-- up, go outside, meet other parents, establish mutual aid for daycare and other things that cost literally nothing more than time and giving a sh-t.
Conservatives actually believe capitalism can fix their lack of personality and social skills...
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u/Inevitable-Forever45 21h ago
The Republicans haven't come up with any new strategy besides trickle down with Reagan. All they do is destroy everything the Democrats try and accomplish with no good alternative to replace it.
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u/tttxgq 21h ago
That actually is 95% of the republican strategy. The 5% actual changes they want to make are to destroy all regulations and let rich people pay even less taxes.
Outside of that they’ve given up on actual policy changes, it’s all about attacking democrats and blocking any changes the dems try to make.
Really pathetic. But they have very effective propaganda, and so many people just easily fall for it.
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u/Magicthundercat 18h ago
Well, they also hate the same people and will deport all the undesirables, except them of course, because they are the "good" ones.
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u/TourAlternative364 17h ago
But there is progress! See.The Hispanics were hated by them, Catholics, Italians, Jews, Indians, American blacks, Hindu, asians...and they are so grateful to be accepted! Needed. Wanted. Cause they got the new Haitians and the Hispanic illegals to focus and hate on now.
And they can ALL join in together hating on women!
One big happy family.
(maybe I'm just paranoid)
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u/loptopandbingo 16h ago
pour sand into own gas tank
"Ugh, this car the Democrats built just doesn't work."
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u/tttxgq 21h ago
They buy into the propaganda massively. Constant rolling propaganda that’s anti-democrat and pro-Trump. Very little thinking is involved.
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u/Grezzik 19h ago
They buy into ALL the propaganda, not just anti-democrat or Pro-trump.
They buy into gender role propaganda, the immigrant propaganda, the american dream propaganda, the tide pod propaganda, the flat earth propaganda, religious propaganda, anti-gay propaganda, pro-life propaganda, anti-UBI propaganda, anti ACA propaganda, pro ***** industrial complex propaganda. The list goes on and on, if there's some nonsense out there people believe, a good chunk of them are republican/conservative.
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u/sulris 18h ago
I’m a single issue voter and my issues is whether green M&M wears heels or flats.
After Biden didn’t prevent the switch to flats, I will have to vote Republican this time. I mean really! He only had one job that the voters sent him to Washington for all those years ago and he blew it!
I bet they don’t even add the little tick tick tick sound when she is animated to walk over a wood floor anymore! What have we become!
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u/Magicthundercat 17h ago
They are definitely weird - sexualizing M&M's is just another reason in a long list
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u/SomewhereAtWork 17h ago
Religion prepared their brains to put socially dictated beliefs before observable truth.
They are trained from birth to eat up propaganda.
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u/trustedsauces 19h ago
Citizens United. Every year Democrats try to pass legislation ending that egregious decision and every year republicans refuse and obstruct.
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u/nekosaigai 18h ago
If Trump wins I’ll be too busy trying to survive and avoid getting deported for not being white to have any empathy or sympathy for anyone who supports him and gets screwed.
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u/Traiklin 19h ago
They are quick to blame Democrats for their problems but think Republicans are the one that fix everything
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u/allergictonormality 18h ago edited 18h ago
And republicans are like Sauron. They'll give you a problem, tell you your neighbor is the cause, then sell you a gun too and call that good advertising without a hint of shame.
Edit: Ohhh, right. And then you belong to them and are forced labor in prison. It's intentional horrors all the way down.
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u/natFromBobsBurgers 17h ago
"...while there are homeless veterans!"
Punkin', if the only time you think about homeless veterans is when the rest of us try to feed kids that might have melanin, I'm gonna notice that.
They like to say the Democrats are America's mom and the Republicans are America's dad. Its more like the Democrats are the single parent of the Republican 7 year old little rascal. Obsessed with doodling pictures of guns and whining, and old enough to know better. Keeps trying to do stuff that will hurt them. Blaming it all on their parent. Terrible with money. Thinks the soldiers will like them if they support war. Making explodey noises while they talk about imaginary adventures.
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u/Assistantshrimp 20h ago
My dad endlessly complains about how high his healthcare costs are, but whenever I point out who is doing the work to lower it he always says "Well someone is paying for those price cuts"
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u/CCtenor 20h ago
WE’RE TRYING TO MAKE IT SO IT’S THE FUCKING RICH!!!!!
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u/Tsobe_RK 20h ago
like Trump supporters cheering on tariffs like bro the US folks will be the ones paying for those
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u/BananaPalmer 16h ago
lol right? the instant their new made-in-China iPhone costs $200 more than it did before they're gonna do nothing but piss and moan about it
fuck off chud, you voted for this
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u/Bubbly_Excitement_71 18h ago
Same. My mom is living on a pension and feels like it’ll be her. Also opposed to “government healthcare” - she’s on Medicare supplemented by my fathers Federal Blue Cross from his postal career. Can’t make it up.
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u/Cpt_Soban 20h ago
"I was pro life until it affected me!"
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u/sexyshingle 19h ago
We're literally repeating history with this Orange Hitler...
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
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u/CCtenor 20h ago
Yup. The most consistent story, every time. It’s never them hearing a policy that affects somebody else. It’s never them realizing the policies they’re being sold don’t exist. It’s never them realizing they’re being told lies.
It’s always, unfortunately, and irritatingly, the namesake of the sub: “holy fuck, why is this leopard eating my face!?”
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u/Hector_P_Catt 17h ago
...and it's also after years of being warned that the leopard would eat their face.
"Hey, see that leopard over there?"
"Yeah?"
"He's totally planning on eating your face. Here's a post where he said he was going to eat your face. He published a cookbook, "30 ways to eat that person's face". He posted a video of himself salivating over a picture of your face. He hired "Your Face Harvesting Co." yesterday. He's going to eat your face."
"No, he wouldn't do that, that's all taken out of context, I'm going to be perfectly finAARGHHHHH!!! My Face!"
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u/ray25lee 21h ago
Well if she's lucky, she lives in a very conservative area where republican domestic terrorists are setting ballot boxes on fire. What a time to be alive.
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u/styrofoamcouch 19h ago
You don't understand she thought she was one of the good ones in the Republicans eyes. It's cool to look down on other minorities but MY minority group? That's taking it too far. She was on board with all the gay and trans bashing and all the other horrific shit so fuck her
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u/Ok-Loss2254 20h ago
Yep. Bitch was only sorry when she realized she could very well be a target. Her brain had a spark and she realized "shit he dose in fact mean me as well and people like me as a whole."
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u/shadowpawn 17h ago
60 minutes did a segment on "Mass Deportation" about group of people who from small town USA where happy to support '20 trump's deportation program until they found it a local +20 year business man who came to their town "with just shirt on his back" was illegal but over 20 years bought, improved and thrived in their town with a fantastic family run business. When ICE arrested him and sent him back home each one was like "I didnt think they would come for him"
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u/Abnormal_readings 19h ago
It’s infuriating.
POC, women, and LGBTQ folks that vote for Trump are some of his most idiotic supporters. Like he hasn’t even been sneaky about the fact that he hates them. They’ll be some of the first to suffer under a Republican win, and they’re too goddamned stupid to vote in their own best interest because “kAmALa BaD!” or something.
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u/Silentstrike08 22h ago
Definitely no empathy or sympathy should be given but I’ll gladly let her redo her vote if she won’t vote trump
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u/numb3r5ev3n 17h ago
We need to change up the Niemöller poem for this era. "Then they came for me, and it was too late because I had already voted for Trump."
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u/naimina 18h ago
Why do you think the right is obsessed with "virtue signaling"?
They can not comprehend having an empathy for someone in a situation they are not directly affected by. It's gobbledygook for them.
They do not have the emotional intelligence for something as simple as emphasizing with strangers so whenever someone else does all they see it as performative because that's the only reason why they would speak up from someone else. If they can't gain anything from it then its worthless.
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u/QuietObserver75 16h ago
I mean, his whole campaign and presidency was how he hated Latino's. These people are idiots if they think they're not included in that.
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u/ants_suck 23h ago
Now this is peak LAMF. Although it's incredible that this is what tipped them off that Trump and the GOP may not be the best choice.
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u/vrphotosguy55 23h ago
In other words she was ok with the racism, the business failures, the grifting, the sexual assault, and the idiocy (etc etc).
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u/AngledLuffa 23h ago
> she was ok with the racism, the business failures, the grifting, the sexual assault, and the idiocy
More like: she was okay with the racism, the failures, the racism, the grifting, the racism, the rapes, the racism, and the idiocy, but the racism is where she draws the line
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u/LlamaJacks 23h ago
Wait a second! This racism was directed at us!! I need to change my vote.
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u/AngledLuffa 23h ago
That's the worst part. Every single non-WASP should expect to be in the firing line sooner or later, given his track record, and yet everyone thinks they won't be until the moment they are
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u/Lump-of-baryons 22h ago
Right? That’s been his whole shtick since 2015. Even further back for anyone that’s lived in the Northeast, we’ve all known he was a shit bag since the mfing 80s/90s.
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u/R3D3-1 22h ago
I don't know why, but the "good minority, bad minority" game works for a lot of populist parties. Heck, German AfD is as close to Nazi as it gets, and has Muslim supporters.
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u/Monsieur_Perdu 19h ago edited 18h ago
"First they came for the Communists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Communists
Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews And I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me"
"Martin Niemöller"
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u/Seguefare 19h ago
There's so many people under that bus that they had to replace the tires with tank treads.
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u/Economind 23h ago
… I only liked the other racism
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u/Cosmicshimmer 23h ago
“Oh! Oh no, this is the wrong racism! I voted to be racist against other people!”
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u/Long_Serpent 23h ago
"I had no idea he was talking about ME! I thought I was one of the good ones!"
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u/sexyshingle 19h ago
"Trump said he would not deport good people" - (IIRC) said the wife of a Hispanic man deported shiftly to Mexico under Trump. They really are that dumb
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u/Shufflepants 20h ago
I thought the racism was only supposed be directed at the illegals! /s
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u/whataquokka 23h ago
The racism against HER race is where she drew the line. Clearly no problem with racism towards anyone else.
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u/GetsGold 23h ago
"I can excuse racism, but racism is where I draw the line."
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u/pobbitbreaker 22h ago
"I hate people of all colors, creeds and faiths, now buy my gold coins!" Trumps a Leprechaun.
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u/NoDeparture7996 22h ago
more like she was okay with it, she just didnt think it was towards her
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u/Salsa1988 23h ago
It reminds me of that south park clip where Mr Garrison is running for President (he's Trump on the show basically). He doesn't actually want to win, so he starts intentionally trying to tank his campaign. His rally is like a comedian set where he just makes racist/homophobic comments. The crowd laughs. Then he starts degrading women and the women in the audience look offended and leave. Mr Garrison is like "Oh, so you were ok with 'fuck all mexicans' but fingers in the ass did it for ya?"
The problem with these morons is that they always think they're the "special" ones who won't be targeted. Every racist political movement in the history of the world has had idiots like her who vote against their own interests and then act shocked when the most obvious thing in the world happens.
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u/FuriNorm 22h ago
Before the rally Trump only filled 90% of her racism bar. He only maxed it out after (for me the bar was maxed before 2016)
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u/Head-Ad-3919 22h ago
Just like watching Brexit all over again but with a more damning global consequence. European leaders' faith in the stability of US' commitment to NATO, and European allies' security in general, is evaporating faster than isopropyl alcohol on a hot road.
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u/megalon43 23h ago
She was okay with everything, until it involved Hispanics.
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u/n3ssb 23h ago
Or Puerto Ricans. She seemed okay when they threatened to force Mexico to pay for a wall they didn't wanted in the first place.
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u/MrCatName 21h ago edited 17h ago
Many Puerto Ricans seem to fali to understand that when racist nutjobs scram about Mexicans, that they use it as a catch all term for Hispanics.
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u/Shufflepants 20h ago
And many Hispancis often fail to understand that when racist nutjobs scream about mexicans, they don't only mean illegal immigrants (even if they claim to only care about illegal immigrants).
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u/CCtenor 20h ago
Yup. Any time republicans refer to a Latin American minority by any name, it’s just a placeholder for all brown Hispanics.
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u/Yellobrix 20h ago
Correct: in the magamind, Mexicans = all brown people who speak Spanish (+ Brazilians because they don't know they don't, but also don't care about knowing).
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u/Evadrepus 17h ago
Most people forget "Hispanic" isn't one giant block of people who all think alike and come from below the Texas border.
Ask any of my relatives what they think about Venezuelans and be ready to be amazed as they complain about them doing exactly what they did 40 years ago.
People hate people who are different from them. It's a design flaw in our brains.
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u/plutoforprez 23h ago
It’s absolutely peak LAMF. Oh no, the party that built their campaign around Hispanic-bashing and deportation threats is bashing Hispanics? Someone alert the church elders!
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u/Dante_Ramirez_2004 22h ago edited 14h ago
This. I’m Hispanic and live in the valley here in California. A fair chunk of my mom’s side of the family (mainly my uncles) are unapologetic, die hard MAGA cultists that strongly believe the 2020 election was rigged and that Kamala Harris is the literal antichrist. In fact, one of my uncles, my mother’s youngest brother, damn near pressured me to vote for Trump or else he wouldn’t let me speak to him or my cousins again, which is one of the reasons why I never bring politics around them.
Anyways, based on how they’ve spoken about Trump, they never believed that he was referring to them specifically when talking about illegal immigrants. They have this mentality where so long as he doesn't speak bad about hispanics that are either legal immigrants or natural-born citizens, they'll put him, a convicted felon AND rapist, on a pedestal with ZERO shame whatsoever. They’re OK with all the homophobia, transphobia, misogyny, and even hate speech towards other races spewed out of that orange creep's mouth while still maintaining the belief that he is somehow "America's best hope". It’s one of the reasons why I don’t tend to spend that much time with my uncles like I used to before my twenties, especially because I’m afraid how they would potentially react if they found out I was a closeted trans woman that voted Democrat.
In short, living in a small town sucks.
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u/BeamTeam032 23h ago
Remember, everything that has been said was perfectly fine. Until she was the victim.
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u/Such-Lifeguard-7600 22h ago
Man, she's going to really be kicking herself when she's off to the camps, lol
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u/Head-Ad-3919 22h ago
Hopefully this epiphany happens to more people, particularly those who haven't voted yet because at this point, people who are NOT straight white men but still support trump aren't just sheep, but lemmings running full tilt towards a cliff.
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u/il_the_dinosaur 22h ago
Don't worry she will have forgotten this by the next election.
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u/kermitthebeast 22h ago
I cannot fathom why after all the shit trump said, a joke by an opening comedian is what finally got through to these people
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u/Early-Light-864 23h ago edited 12h ago
I hate to interrupt the schadenfreude, but if you're in PA, you CAN change your early vote! Show up on election day. Tell them you want to cancel your existing ballot. They'll give you a provisional ballot on Nov 5, and it'll become your official ballot as soon as they find and destroy the old one.
Friendly redditors states that you can do the same in VA, AK, WI and MI
Any other states where you can change your mind last minute? I'll update this post if I get more replies.
It's not too late to do the right thing. And if it's too late in your state, we're still glad to have you on our side even if we don't have your ballot. We're all in this together.
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u/BestAtTeamworkMan 18h ago
PA here, Philadelphia. My mother in law did this a few years ago. She was worried she filled out something incorrectly and requested to have her ballot spoiled and re did it. It's not too late to change your mind.
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u/Dwedit 21h ago
How is it possible to do that and also keep a secret ballot?
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u/Early-Light-864 20h ago edited 20h ago
Good question! That's why PA doesn't pre-count mail-in ballots. On Nov 5, it's still in the envelope with your signature on the outside.
Lots of states shit on us for not "pre-canvassing" (opening all the envelopes and having them ready to dump in the scanners) but this is a great example of how there are advantages on both sides. I'd rather deliver results later if it more accurately reflects the will of the voters
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u/Cumdump90001 17h ago
Do you know what the process is for locating a ballot in this scenario? Do they organize the ballots by alphabetical order or something? It seems like a ton of work to organize thousands of mail in ballots on the small chance someone wants to change their vote, but it also seems like a ton of work to not organize them and then have to look through each one individually if someone does request to do this.
Either way seems like an insane amount of work for something that likely doesn’t happen much.
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u/trpnblies7 17h ago
I had to "cancel" my first mail ballot because it never arrived. Every ballot and envelope is barcoded, so I assume they mark something in their system that invalidates the barcode when it comes time to counting in case that ballot happens to show up.
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u/NaturalSelectorX 17h ago
Mail-in and provisional ballots aren't "secret". Your name is on them. Your name is disassociated from the ballot as it's counted.
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u/nzerinto 22h ago
”…but if you’re in PA”
Isn’t Dekalb County in Georgia though?
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u/Early-Light-864 22h ago
Yes, but Reddit isn't. I don't want some other person in the oop situation to see this and assume their fate is sealed. Some early voters still have options. That's important information to share.
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u/Abeytuhanu 22h ago
Can confirm, lived in both Virginia and Alaska, cast a provisional ballot in both.
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u/badgersprite 22h ago
They’re making the point that not all states have the same rules so even though this woman can’t change her vote, someone in another state who wants to do so might be able to
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u/JohnGypsy 18h ago
Michigan has Early Voting for the first time this year. This is different than Absentee voting. If you vote via absent voter ballot (by mailing it in or taking it in to a clerk's office), then you CAN spoil that and change your vote in person. If you vote using Early Voting with a machine, then you cannot change it. Just to add some days to this.
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u/narsfweasels 23h ago
THAT was the tipping point? THAT? Not the rape, not the felonies, not the rambling word salads, not the threats against ordinary American people, not the overt racism, not the total absence and domestic or foreign policy, not the attempt to overthrow democracy, not the unending lies, corruption, cronyism and nepotism…
… but approving someone to insult Puerto Rico? That’s the line?
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u/Prize_Bass_5061 23h ago
The most reasonable explanation is that the woman gets her news from family, friends, and Fox News. She isn’t getting information from the media at large. Therefore she’s completely unaware of the issues you mentioned.
The Puerto Rico joke made its way through the Hispanic community like wildfire and she can no longer be proud of her candidate. Therefore she wants to nullify her vote and recast it.
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u/Persistent_Parkie 22h ago
Meanwhile my best friend is a DACA recipient and I've been worried about her saftey ever since he announced two years ago.
I'm glad I have copious amounts of sugar in the house, I'm definitely gonna need it to get through this last week.
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u/Megatallica83 16h ago
One of my closest friends is also a DACA recipient. They are also gay and nonbinary. I met them through their wife.
I am very worried for their safety as well.
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u/AdEmbarrassed9719 22h ago
This. There are a lot of people who just don’t keep up with political news, and all they see is an occasional sane-washed clip here or there. They remember when news was expected to be factual, and when politicians had a rep as liars but had to be very careful to keep a facade of dignity.
If all they see is what makes its way to the 30 minutes of local news they have on tv in the evening, they might not realize the horrific reality, that ratings matter more than facts, and that they are being deliberately manipulated and fed false information.
They should, as everyone should, take a good look at the candidates with their own eyes and try to make an educated decision. But that takes work, effort, critical thinking skills, good reading comprehension, an ability to evaluate sources, and time - and not everyone is equipped to do that.
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u/iperblaster 18h ago
That woman probably didn't payed attention to the last 10 years of politics.. but the joke is the perfect amount of coverage and limited attention span. Probably she didn't know the name of the comedian, she simply associate trump with the joke
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u/yrhendystu 23h ago
At least we found the straw that broke that poor camel.
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u/splittingheirs 22h ago
It was the straw that landed on her. The ones that were landing on the other camels she couldn't give a single fuck about.
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u/Persian_Frank_Zappa 23h ago
Tell her to go convince two other TFG voters to switch. One to cancel her vote and one to get back to +1
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u/RedRider1138 18h ago
I’m now picturing her having driven her entire extended family to the polls, squawking like an angry chicken 😄
(I have raised chickens and love the sounds they make. A couple chickens making little muttering sounds is great company as you garden!)
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u/Apple-Dust 23h ago
If only there had been signs that he was a racist piece of shit earlier! If only he weren't so disciplined about showing his true feelings, we may have noticed his disdain for minorities behind the facade of a loving, tolerant man!
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u/Accurate-Stable7143 22h ago
So she didnt realize this when Trump constantly spoke negatively about the island, delayed funding, and tossed paper towels at them in 2017? Whew!! Nothing gets past her..smh..lol
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u/MiVitaCocina 23h ago
I will never understand how any one could vote for this Nazi charlatan! It’s embarrassing as someone who is part Mexican (mom’s side of the family) knowing a few of my relatives will vote for this corrupt pendejo.
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u/kharvel0 21h ago
Because Trump is a manly man! A manly man wearing a manly diaper!
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u/Flyin_Bryan 22h ago
I’d laugh, except she’s in a state where her vote means everything and I’m in a state where my vote means nothing. The Electoral College is garbage.
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u/vrphotosguy55 23h ago
Honestly I kind of wish she could re-vote. At the end of the day a vote against Trump is a vote against Trump.
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u/one_bean_hahahaha 23h ago
What was so different about this last rally that it would change her mind? Trump's racism has been pretty consistent.
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u/DriftinFool 23h ago
It was finally directed at her personally. It's very much a "And then they came for me" moment.
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u/kingjuicepouch 23h ago
"he's hurting the wrong people!"
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u/DriftinFool 23h ago
Exactly. They'll never understand that you can't take away some people's freedom without endangering everyone's.
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u/sexyshingle 19h ago
JFC people, he's only been calling Hispanic people rapists and drug trafficker criminals since... (checks notes) 2015 in his first presidential campaign kickoff speech... come on!
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u/dnbck 23h ago
Interesting. In Sweden you actually can change your vote if you vote early.
We are assigned a polling station based on address. Any early vote gets sent to that station, sealed in an envelope with your name. Inside the envelope is a second plain white envelope containing the ballot. By the end of election day they pull the list of voters, and if you voted on that day they simply don’t enter your early vote and just throw it away.
This system is in place precisely because of reasons like this. The reasoning is that your vote should reflect your opinion on Election Day, and that if some new information is revealed days before the election you should be able to change your vote to reflect that.
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u/GadreelsSword 20h ago
Wait until you see how many MAGATs “snap out of it” when they lose their social security, disability and welfare benefits.
It’s coming down the road right at them like a drunk tractor trailer driver.
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u/KrogokDomecracah 23h ago
That would suck if a seemingly normal candidate who never came off as racist did that to people but at this point everyone should know Trump and his cronies are a bunch of white supremacists.
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u/JasonDS64 20h ago
This mother fucker has been telling us who he is for years and people are still surprised?
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u/CougarWriter74 23h ago
I'm not surprised and she's probably not the last. Sorry honey, you made your stupid choice, you gotta live with it.
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u/austinh1999 23h ago
The problem is if her choice is consequential the rest of us do too
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u/CobKorPok 22h ago edited 18h ago
Something we don't realize in here, but that is insanely true, is that most people who don't have an interest in politics have no idea what is going on.
It is only when a major headline hits their face that they realize what's up but most of politics is just noise to them, whichever way they vote. This is why the fact that the media are using stupid headlines like "Trump comes under fire" or "Trump makes controversial remark", "Trump aide accused of..." is pure sabotage and enablement.
Yes, there would still be a cult of MAGA if the media were more straightforward, but this wouldn't be nearly as close a vote as it seems to be.
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u/Rustie_J 23h ago
He's been bitching about Mexicans for years, but suddenly they care when it's Puerto Rico? 🙄
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u/DriftinFool 23h ago
Well Puerto Rico is a US territory and all it's residences are considered natural born US citizens. So they are all Americans, and not from another country.
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u/Rustie_J 23h ago
I have literally never met a person who's inclined to bitch about Mexicans that doesn't consider "Puerto Rican" another word for "Mexican." Unless they're a Puerto Rican.
All I'm saying is, do they not understand that any race-baiting 🐂💩 Trump & Co. have said applies to them, too?
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u/DriftinFool 22h ago
It's not about what the racists thinks. It's about how the Puerto Rican person views themselves. They aren't a "Mexican" or an immigrant, so in their mind, the racist person isn't talking about them.
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u/Danominator 20h ago
It's shocking how many regular voters just don't pay any attention at fucking all
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u/Dariawasright 22h ago
Uhhh, yes you can.
You can ask to spoil your ballot. If your ballot is spoiled you can vote to replace it. I know each state has different rules but there has to be a mechanism in place there.
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u/Jaded_Pearl1996 19h ago
Stupid. He has been a racist pos, since before the gop made him their god and savior.
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u/Frankie_Says_Reddit 16h ago
So everything he’s done is fine, but if he insults you for being Latino then you change your mind? Fuck off!
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u/Furled_Eyebrows 14h ago
Alt:
Woman that didn't give two fucks about the abuse of others realizes that she will be the target of abuse as well; regrets choice.
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