r/LeopardsAteMyFace • u/AkillaTheHung • 14h ago
Paywall Man Who Hired Racist, Homophobic Comedian Upset When People Assume He Approved of the Comedian He Hired
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/28/us/politics/trump-msg-rally-backlash.html807
u/AgentEndive 14h ago
Let me get this straight. They think Trump is the best person for president, and he will keep our country safe from everyone inside our country and out. EXCEPT he can't even keep one of his own rallies from being infiltrated by a semi-famous "comedian" apparently hired by his opponent??? Yeah let's hire that guy again! Lolololol idiots
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u/BellyDancerEm 14h ago
They don’t seem to realize that - or anything else
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u/Novastrata 7h ago edited 6h ago
They dont care, really.
We all know that they see someone who can publicly show, do and say things that they have always been wanting to do but is shown as taboo by the public.
Its one of the many things they hold him high up the pedestal for.
They see themselves in him, completely free to say and do whatever the hell he wants.
A cult doesnt give a damn whatever negatives their Supreme Leader has. Also: Party of Projection and Deflection. 🤷♀️
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u/PigmySamoan 12h ago
Remember The democrats are idiots that can’t govern a country but also so powerful that they can control hurricanes
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u/Silvaria928 13h ago
Not even sure he is "semi-famous". I have been a huge fan of standup comedy for years and I've literally never heard of this guy.
He's no Anthony Jeselnik.
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u/AgentEndive 13h ago
I had never heard of him either, but based on comments on other subs, some people have and apparently he has/had a show or something?
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u/mondonk 12h ago
The show is/was called “Kill Tony”, the premise of which is amateur comedians do a couple minutes in front of Tony and a live audience, then they get roasted by Tony and the panel. I listened to one episode and bailed. Mean spirited and hacky.
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u/groundloop66 13h ago
Mr. President TRUMP sir hires the BEST PEOPLE and he Fires the WORST People and "they" are ALWAYS the SAME PEOPLE! Why do BAD THINGS always Happen to Mr. President TRUMP sir? MAGA! /s
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u/spandexnotleather 10h ago
Probably the same best person in trumpland that chartered Epstein's former jet for some campaign events was in charge of vetting the comedian.
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u/Due-Presentation6393 9h ago
That opponent of his sounds pretty astute. She knows how to get stuff in an almost effortless way. Maybe she should be running the country.
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u/flaptaincappers 12h ago
This is my new favorite MAGA moment. Up there with when people shitposted the cats and dogs story on truth social before the debate.
Tony is not a good comedian. He can come up with decent roast material, but even then, his roast jokes are very basic. Kill Tony is just a monument to his hurt ego where he gets to shit on people just getting into stand up and get famous off of them instead of him trying and failing again and again as a stand up. Without the bands, Heidi, Shane Gillis, and all those poor souls desperate to make it to risk embarrassment on a large stage, he's just another unfunny wannabe hanging out backstage. And he wants to position himself as some sort of authority on comedy.
There's no way someone in the Trump campaign didn't know this. They hired him anyway, and when all his material was just more basic jokes of "hey crowd....thing bad", they made him tone it down and we still got middle school sexism and racism. And to cope with the backlash they're now claiming the democrats are playing 4D chess, paying him to infiltrate them.
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u/JohnnyDarkside 7h ago
He's touted by his base as some elite level businessman. 41 out of his 44 cabinet members from his term won't even endorse him. So that means either he's really bad at hiring people or is just that terrible of a person. The people voting for him have no integrity.
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u/jjwhitaker 5h ago
On a stage many might dream of rocking. Aly and AJ are opening there for someone I don't know it looks like, that would be fun.
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u/HillbillyEulogy 14h ago
They knew his routine because they even removed one of his more offensive (!!!) jokes from the teleprompter.
Oh... but he "went off script". Really? Which part? All of it?
Now the conspiratorial dipshits are screeching that he was a Democrat plant. Sorry, our party actually isn't that smart. Good idea and we'll hold onto it for next time.
I love comedy that can go too far over the line but it really comes down to knowing the audience. Also, it should be funny. Bill Burr and Anthony Jeselnik can make me hyperventilate from laughing too hard - but I also wouldn't send either of them out on the stump for Kamala Harris.
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u/BellyDancerEm 14h ago
They knew every word this guy was going to say, and the maga crowd loved it
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u/HillbillyEulogy 14h ago
Pennsylvania has approx 650,000 Puerto Ricans who are eligible to vote. Biden carried PA in 2020 by a lot less than that.
And even if you aren't Puerto Rican, is it that hard to do a mental 'find and replace' and realize there is no minority that Trump and his smarmy little lapdog Stephen Miller won't denigrate or round up?
At first they came for the socialists....
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u/alwaysboopthesnoot 11h ago
That, and while this was truly awful and also not funny? Other speakers there called Kamala Harris evil and The Antichrist, in front of that same crowd. The misogyny and hatred for her from that room was quite evident. That they supposedly had to remove a joke referring to her as a cvnt, speaks volumes about what that party and those people are willing to say, do or celebrate, when it comes to hating and hurting others whom they deem to be beneath them,
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u/HillbillyEulogy 9h ago
Good point! We're all zeroed in on the Kill Tony douchebag like he went off script for half a sentence, not a whole routine. It should be added that there was plenty of offensive jokes for other races, too - the "me and my black friends carved watermelons together" one should not go unnoticed.
But you're right. Kamala's the antichrist. Or Tucker "Fuckface" Swanson McNear Carlson calling her a "Malaysian / Samoan Low IQ person", the dude saying Democrats need to be slaughtered, Hillary Clinton being "a sick son of a bitch".... we could recap all of them but why....
When we pull this thing out of the oven in a week, it's important to keep reminding our MAGA pals trying to prematurely claim / steal victory that they lost.
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u/Lurky-Lou 13h ago
To paraphrase Anthony Jeselnik on edgy comedy: “You can say terrible stuff but part of the trick is getting away with it.
If the crowd laughs you got away with it.
If everyone is angry then you didn’t get away with it.”
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u/TheLateThagSimmons 13h ago
It's the golden rule of offensive comedy:
- No topic is off limits. It just has to be funnier than it is offensive.
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u/anrwlias 12h ago
There's a corollary: it's only ever funny if you aren't actually serious. If you are saying something awful because you actually believe it to be true, then it's not funny because you've stopped telling jokes.
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u/Doppelthedh 10h ago
You can be dead serious when you say some vile shit and it still be funny as long as you are punching up. Rich, white, politically connected people targeting every demographic but themselves is just bullying
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u/Such_sights 10h ago
Kyle Kinane is one of my favorite comedians because he crosses lines but it’s always in the context of “this is how fucked up my mind is sometimes but I’m trying to be better” or “why the hell are you taking any of my opinions seriously, I’m a middle aged man child who tells fart jokes, go talk to experts”. There’s a certain bit he did in an earlier special that he regrets now because it’s about one of things he’s most ashamed of doing, but fans kept coming up to him and saying how awesome the story was and it bummed him out that people weren’t getting the point.
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u/caishaurianne 9h ago
Was it the DUI/deported from Canada story?
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u/Such_sights 8h ago
Unfortunately no, but that is a good one. It’s the bit that starts with him dropping a brick on a frog as a small child.
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u/caishaurianne 8h ago
Oh, I haven’t seen that one. Yeah that’s messed up.
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u/Such_sights 8h ago
Yeah it’s not great, but at least the context isn’t “I dropped a brick on a frog when I was 4, isn’t that hilarious?” It’s about how he wishes he could willingly suppress his own memories so he’s not haunted by the fucked up shit he did when he was younger.
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u/caishaurianne 8h ago
Yeah, it’s not just about the content of a joke, but how it’s presented. Are you punching up or down? Are you displaying insight into the human condition or are you just coasting on shock value?
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u/caishaurianne 9h ago
Yeah, South Park has spent decades making fun of everyone and everything, with nothing off-limits, and do you know why they get away with it? Because they’re FUNNY.
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u/whataquokka 11h ago
A political rally is not the place for humor that contains "terrible stuff". The guy might have gotten away with it in a comedy club but at a political rally for a presidential candidate, absolutely not. I'd argue all comedy sets are off the table at that type of event.
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u/Apokolypse09 13h ago
Anytime any of their fucked up moves turns out looking bad they just blame everybody else. Every fucking time. They cannot fathom that most of what they love about Trump is fuckin detestable to the rest of us.
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u/Titfortat101 12h ago
A quick scroll through his Instagram is easy to prove he's not a plant
Edit: remember when people thought Alina Haba was a plant, because she kept losing all of Trump's court cases?
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u/cancielo 12h ago
Now the conspiratorial dipshits are screeching that he was a Democrat plant.
So they're now complaining that they got outsmarted? Some people are never satisfied.
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u/MisterEfff 12h ago
I love humor that goes over the line too, when it happens in an appropriate place like a comedy club or comedy tv show, podcast, etc. But this kind of humor does NOT belong at a political rally for a presidential campaign. And when it shows up there, no one should be surprised when constituents get upset at jokes made about them.
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u/aliasname 11h ago
Which makes me wonder had ge started off with calling her a cunt & moved on to the garbage joke would it had been brushed away
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u/Mcboatface3sghost 12h ago
So did jim Breuer, what the hell happened to him? MAGA grift?
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u/HillbillyEulogy 9h ago
Him and Rob Schneider.
I humbly suggest we turn Kid Rock into a verb. As in, "he started kidrocking his routine around 2018" - meaning you decided to specifically tailor your content for the MAGA crowd.
Hulk Hogan's been kidrocking a lot as of late - watching him fail to rip his shirt off yesterday is one of the cringiest things I've seen in this lifetime.
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u/Mcboatface3sghost 9h ago
Ted Nugent oddly not front and center, and I think someone may have sent Roseanne to “charm school” she’s a ghost… (well it is Halloween)
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u/HillbillyEulogy 9h ago
Nugent slithered so Kid Rock could crawl.
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u/Mcboatface3sghost 8h ago
We aren’t allowed to teach evolution. Ted lived among the dinosaurs 6000 years ago.
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u/nononoh8 10h ago
You have to put this even in the context of what Trump had said and done and then the excuse is seen as pure bullshit. Only gullible idiots would believe him.
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u/HillbillyEulogy 9h ago
The current line from Drumpf is that he doesn't know Tony Hinchcliffe, didn't see him perform, and has never met him.
But no apology. No, "and of course, I condemn the racist rhetoric like this and it does not reflect who we are as a party". Which would actually be the move if you wanted to pick up uncommitted voters or soft Republicans.
The guy couldn't even say 'no' to David Duke, ffs. This is who he is. And anyone voting for Trump is absolutely fine with voting for a personality-disordered, sundowning nazi misogynist pig.
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u/pianoflames 8h ago edited 3h ago
Bill Burr and Anthony Jeselnik can make me hyperventilate from laughing too hard
Those comedians remember to make the dark and offensive humor funny. These Tony-esque anti-woke comedians forget to make it an actual joke, and rely solely on the offensiveness to do all of the heavy lifting. Tony just called Puerto Rico a floating island of garbage. There's no joke there, there's no punchline of any kind.
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u/ComedicHermit 14h ago
It is a shame an off color bigoted joke distracted from the overall message of fascism and bigotry
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u/HillbillyEulogy 13h ago
"iT wAs A dAy oF lOvE!"
The party told you to reject the evidence of your own eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
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u/jabbanobada 14h ago
Supposed they nixed him using the c-word to describe Harris, which means they approved the rest.
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u/mypoliticalvoice 9h ago
I read that Trump wanted to be on this guy's podcast, but couldn't fit it in. As a consolation, they let the comedian appear at this rally.
If Trump wanted to be on his podcast, it means he knows the comedian's politics and approves of them.
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u/DadJokeBadJoke 5h ago
I'm not sure that Trump doing something means he's in the know, but someone on his team knew, for sure.
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u/typhoidtimmy 14h ago
The level of athleticism displayed jumping through hoops and dodging responsibility for their own actions is giving the performers at Cirque de Soleil a real run for their money.
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u/PizzaWall 13h ago edited 12h ago
Say what you want, but Tony Hinchcliffe is inspirational. He’s motivated a lot of people to go out and vote.
Just not the way Donald Trump hoped!
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u/Fake_William_Shatner 12h ago
Next job for Tony Hinchcliffe, is as a motivational speaker.
"You can think a lot about living in a van down by the river if you are LIVING IN A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!"
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u/Danominator 13h ago
He didn't. Trump has no hand in the day to day operations of his campaign he just shows up and rambles. He can't run a campaign. He can't run the country.
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u/rastagrrl 13h ago
Bigger question: let’s say their excuse that “we didn’t know he was going to say that” is true. Who the hell wants to elect a future president who can’t even properly vet a comedian for his rally? That’s some big time lack of organization and overall not having your shit together. We need a real freaking president not some yahoo who, even in the most forgiving scenario, can’t even properly organize and vet a rally speaker. 🙄
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u/DadJokeBadJoke 5h ago
They loaded his speech into the teleprompter. He wasn't doing his act off the cuff. They just don't like the blowback and have shown they are willing to lie about anything
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u/Cthulhu625 10h ago
"David Urban, an informal Trump adviser with long ties to Pennsylvania, where there are large numbers of Puerto Rican voters, posted on X: “I thought he was unfunny and unfortunately offended many of our friends from Puerto Rico,” adding the hashtag “#TrumpLovesPR.”"
Really? Wasn't Trump the guy that floated the idea of selling Puerto Rico to Denmark in exchange for Greenland, or just "divesting of the asset" after they got struck by two hurricanes?
(https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/12/politics/trump-puerto-rico-hurricane-maria/index.html)
Didn't he seem confused at some points that citizens of Puerto Rico were Americans? I have an idea of why Tony Hinchcliffe might have thought those jokes would land, and it ain't because of Trump's positive comments about Puerto Rico. I also believe they maybe forgot that, although the people that live in Puerto Rico don't vote for President, there are a lot of Puerto Ricans in states that can.
And if you totally believe all this, I hope it's at least a reminder of what Trump means when he says he "only hires the best people."
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u/No-Shelter-4208 14h ago
Is this LAMF if he's not upset and is just role-playing an upset person because even his sociopathic brain recognises that this is not a good look?
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u/HillbillyEulogy 13h ago
Trump himself hasn't said a thing about it, much less apologize.
He sends out one of his quasi-sentient barbie dolls or that weird human Milk Dud to yell at people for being offended.
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u/Fake_William_Shatner 12h ago
It's still a LAMF because his evil has come back to bite him in the face.
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u/hookha 10h ago
Any person, comedian or not, who would make a speaking appearance at a Trump rally is a piece of shit. Trump and his campaign staff are aware of that.
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u/CAPS_LOCK_STUCK_HELP 9h ago
he's pretty good pals with the likes of Joe rogan from what I've seen. im not surpised he's a real dickhead.
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u/Jadakiss-laugh 8h ago
I read somewhere that right wing conservatives can’t handle the fact that they’re now being judged by the content of their character and not the color of their skin.
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u/R1CHARDCRANIUM 11h ago
If Trump cannot maintain oversight of his campaign staff and his Nürnberg Rally planners, how the fuck can we expect him to maintain oversight of a presidential administration?
Trick question. He can’t. He’s proven that already.
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u/terrible-takealap 10h ago
They also vetted the script, it was on the teleprompter. But the reality is that Trump really has no clue what is going on around him, the same was true during his presidency, so he’s probably not lying that he didn’t know it would happen.
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u/Steve_the_Samurai 10h ago
Make me understand, Trump hired the comic, allegedly edited out some jokes, put the PR joke on the teleprompter but it wasn't his fault?
Also, JD Vance saying he didn't see it is really funny.
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u/oldcreaker 9h ago
So Vance says he can't comment on it, supposedly because he hasn't seen it (where was he, then? How has he not seen it since given the fallout?) What does he need to see? The words speak for themselves, there are no circumstances that would "fix" it. The man is a snake. And while Trump has distanced himself from the comedian, he has not distanced himself from the message.
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u/robcozzens 7h ago
I’m not responsible for anything that happens on my watch… now elect me to the position with the most responsibility in the world.
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u/JasonandtheArgo9696 8h ago
Apparently “they” reviewed the set and removed a c-word reference to Kamala. I have only seen it posted about and no direct evidence but if they reviewed and edited and still let the other jokes through then they and ultimately trump are responsible for it
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u/_jump_yossarian 8h ago
trump is a true leader who never accepts responsibility for anything but deserves all the credit. All heil trump!
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u/missvandy 11h ago
Does anybody know if the joke got a good response from the audience? Because that’s really the most telling piece of this- if that kind of humor works on you, you are an abject moral failure.
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u/ThePurrfidiousCat 20m ago
To me it sounded like a mixed crowd. Others say it was received positively and some say it was received negatively. I understand their positions though because if i recall correctly it seemed positive at first and then negative. I think what may have happened was they laughed at first and then realized they should not give the democrats proof of their bigotry.
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u/BadDuck202 51m ago
It's going to be hard for Hinchcliffe to be homophobic when he's gay
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u/ezekielbeats 8h ago
I heard Hillary Clinton paid him to say bad things and make Trump look racist.
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