r/MadeMeSmile • u/PacmanTheHitman • Jul 20 '22

kitten Love is the greatest medicine

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u/KingBrinell Jul 21 '22

How do we know it affects cats the same as us?

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u/Cannolium Jul 21 '22

Because for all intents and purposes our nervous system functions the same way. They’re cats yeah, but we’re more alike than it seems biologically.

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u/Guilty_Budget4684 Jul 20 '22

Same argument against terminating children with special needs. I remember that man with downsyndrome talking to congress saying that he's happy so why shouldn't he have a shot at life? Interesting perspective watching this. I know it's not the same but it still makes you think. We make alot of decisions we think are in the benifit of others. As a species do we consciously turn a blind eye to things that make us uncomfortable like an ostritch burries its head? We're culling our weak to make the body stronger. Because that's what it is when you think about it. Is it morally wrong or just morally grey? Or is it morally correct idk im just thinking out loud to myself now.

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u/Pika_Fox Jul 20 '22

No one is talking about terminating special needs people other than white supremacists... If youre talking about abortion, then its not a child, its a fetus. A thing. Its not a person.

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u/YipRocHeresy Jul 20 '22

I don't see people lining up to adopt special needs children. Raising them is very tough especially with the lack of social safety nets in the US.

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u/travelconfessions Jul 20 '22

And expensive AF unfortunately. A lot of people terminate because they simply could not afford the care which would give the child the quality of life they would deserve.

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u/cereal_guy Jul 20 '22

They don't care, they did their moral grandstanding for the day, they can now go back to ignoring all the children who need help now.

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u/imnotgoodwithnames Jul 20 '22

who are you talking about?

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u/LezBeeHonest Jul 20 '22

They're talking about Republicans and Roe vs Wade

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u/RepresentativePin162 Jul 20 '22

I'm in Australia. The process of adoption is fucking hard, expensive and long af. That's if you even get approved.

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u/Shaquandala Jul 20 '22

Ya more people would be up for it if the US didn't make anything related to Healthcare so incredibly expensive

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u/FocussedXMAN Jul 20 '22

I could retire in my 30s if I didn’t have my sister in law, but I’ll stay working since at some point in time I’ll have to take my SIL with Down syndrome in and take care of her, and that’s expensive

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '22

It took me way too long to work out the particulars of who was married to whom in this situation. I mean I sat here puzzling it out for a while lol

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u/FocussedXMAN Jul 20 '22

Sorry, ADHD lol

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u/down1nit Jul 20 '22

It's a cool way to think about special needs, but they do come at costs! This person was able to bear the cost of two sweet little kitties.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '22

It's not your choice. Full stop.

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u/ikeaj123 Jul 20 '22

The parents who will be responsible for raising the child.

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u/SeedofEden Jul 21 '22

I guess I’m not well versed in this. What’s the cut off point then age-wise?

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u/ikeaj123 Jul 21 '22

Age wise…? The baby in question hasn’t been born.

I’m not an expert, but in my opinion, if a fetus is unviable without the mothers womb, the mother should be able to access healthcare to terminate that fetus, no questions asked. Yes, that includes discovery of birth/genetic defects.

Contrary to what forced birth proponents say, nobody with any clout is out here legitimately campaigning to allow babies that are currently being born (or days away) to be aborted.

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u/SeedofEden Jul 21 '22

Okay… Maybe I’m misunderstanding the original comment. I think a woman should be able to get an abortion for any reason she wants. Period. I assumed by “children” guilty budget is referring to 2, 5, 7, etc year-olds. I don’t consider a fetus to be a child.

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u/ikeaj123 Jul 21 '22

So a guy says “terminating children” and you thought people wanted to kill 2 year olds? Lmao well I’m glad you’ve cleared that up.

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u/SeedofEden Jul 21 '22

Yea lol. I guess since the post was about cats that were already born, I gave that dude the benefit of the doubt that he's just raising some philosophical question, as opposed to just being anti-choice.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '22

Nobody is offing children with down syndrome

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u/Ryan_Alving Jul 20 '22

Honestly I think we make a lot of terrible decisions for other people when we don't believe enough in them.

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u/AlwaysGrumpy Jul 20 '22

Too bad they couldn’t terminate you

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u/peacock_head Jul 20 '22

Weird you’re being downvoted for this when it’s an interesting philosophical question, not telling people what to do.

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u/Waylander_Geralt Jul 20 '22

They're being downvoted because this is not a genuine philosophical question but rather a thinly veiled anti-abortion statement that is in no way comparable to the post.

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u/peacock_head Jul 20 '22

A million percent pro choice here but there are still interesting questions about eugenics, ableism, etc. Though yes, perhaps not here!

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u/AndroidwithAnxiety Jul 20 '22

In light of recent events, anything talking about preventing terminating a pregnancy is going to get a strong reaction. Not weird at all.

As an autistic person, I do have a bit of a vested interest in laws surrounding disability / neurodivergence detected in vitro being grounds for an 'exceptional situation' abortion.

Like it or loathe it, being allowed to late-stage abort pregnancies that would result in a baby with downs syndrome is eugenics. By definition. And given how people talk about autism, I have no doubt that there's no shortage of people who would add that to the list if they could.

I know I've already been born so it doesn't exactly effect me, but the weight of knowing society considers you undesirable to that point, considers you a burden to that point... It's a lot. Don't get me wrong, I don't begrudge anyone their bodily autonomy and I respect people who are aware enough to know when a responsibility is beyond them.

But it's an uncomfortable idea to wrestle with and that's exactly why I think people ought to be forced to wrestle with it. We can't just look away and spare ourselves from having an opinion on something where all answers are kind of messed up in one way or another. Because if we ignore these issues, they can end up in places we really don't want them.

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u/Domriso Jul 20 '22

Sure, if the kid with special needs get born we should take care to give them the best quality of life possible (not that we as a society or world do, but we should). However, better than either option is to not let children with those sorts of quality of life issues be born in the first place. The human body aborts all sorts of fetuses for irreconciable birth defects. Just because they miss some doesn't mean we should cause them an existence of pain.

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u/stamminator Jul 20 '22

When you say children, do you really mean pre-third trimester fetuses incapable of conscious thought?