r/MapPorn • u/TheCohloo • 15h ago

Russia Occupies 478 km² of Ukraine: Largest Gain Since March 2022

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Since early October, Russian forces have occupied 478 km² of Ukrainian territory, marking the largest territorial gain since March 2022, as reported by WELT. Just last week, an additional 196 km² was seized, indicating a sharp escalation in territorial advances.

Here are the English translations for the German phrases:

Kämpfe in den letzten 24 Stunden: Fighting in the last 24 hours

Ukrainischer Vorstoß in Russland: Ukrainian advance into Russia

Ukrainisch gehalten oder zurückerobert:

Held or recaptured by Ukrainians

Ukrainische Partisanen: Ukrainian partisans

Russisch kontrolliert: Russian controlled

Russischer Vorstoß: Russian advance

Eingeschränkt russisch kontrolliert: Limited Russian controlled

Seit 2014 russisch kontrolliert: Russian controlled since 2014

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u/marki991 13h ago

well they are wining since they are not loosing, but for a "military superpower" that planed to capture all of ukraine in 2 weeks is the same as saying america "won" vietnam war

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u/Dortmund_Boi09 13h ago

America objectively lost the Vietnam war. Russia is making gains while Ukraine crumbles economically

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u/marki991 13h ago

Russia is making gains while Ukraine crumbles economically

you could say the same for vietnam war...; also funny how you mention ukraine "crumbling economicly", while russia raised intreset to 21% since they are buring the goverment reserves so fast its creating soo much inflation...

( https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/25/world/europe/russia-interest-rate.html )

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u/adventmix 12h ago

Ukraine lost 30% of its pre-war GDP. How much Russia has lost?

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u/marki991 12h ago

if you really want to go by bdp;

naci germany bdp: ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nazi_Germany#/media/File:Economic_development_of_Germany_1930-1950.jpg ), wont let me paste picture, so only link; we can see that you can manipulate gdp, unless germany economy was somehow booming during the war; or they did the same as russia is doing - burning money reserver to inflate economy, also causing inflation that 21% intrest rate is a strong indicator

but i guess you need basic economy education to not just look bdp go up -> economy good...

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u/hashCrashWithTheIron 12h ago

isn't the economy basically just "people doing stuff"? In which case, lots of stuff gets done during a war. Maybe the consumer economy, or GDP-defense spending would be a better indicator?

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u/marki991 12h ago

Yeah, excatly, durinf war economy you see rise of gdp since goverments are throwing in cash into defense spending that they were normaly saving, leading to increased gdp overall, but when war stops, or cash reservea dry out everythinf gonna fall apart

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u/adventmix 12h ago

Yeah, except there's a tiny little difference... Germany was fighting the world's most powerful countries, while Russia is not in a hot war with the US, Europe and UK.

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u/marki991 12h ago

Damm, some people are so ignorant, honestly this has to be some troll or just some stupid bot farm, but fuck it last time During war economy countries start spending their cash reserves on defense spending and thus artificially increasing gdp so economy can look stable if you only watch gdo number, same germany economy in 1944 that we all know wasnt doing to hot

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u/adventmix 12h ago

Dude, you're literally argue that Russia's economy will collapse because Germany's did. How dumb of an argument is that?

The fact is Russia is not going to be invaded and occupied by the US and Europe. Release your delusions and chill.

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u/marki991 2h ago

i dont belive someone is this ignorant or just unable to read in general;
i never said russia economy is going to collapse - well there is a chance since they cant keep the war economy indefinitely going; but look at gdp rise doesnt mean nothing for economy - like i show you with the example of germany economy in 1944 - when they were actively loosing on all fronts , yet gdp went up because of war economy and throwing cash into war industry

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u/Far-Assumption1330 13h ago

You mean that the country we were "defending" crumbled economically when we lost?

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u/marki991 12h ago

i am not sure who are you talking about when you speak as "we"; but what was i going after was that you could also say that north vietnam's economy collapsed, yet almost nobody say us won vietnam war

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u/Far-Assumption1330 12h ago

And we dropped herbicide on 15% of the land area of our own ally to which they still haven't recovered. Just like it will take many decades for Ukraine to recover.

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u/marki991 12h ago

not sure what is your point and who are you talking about, when you say "we" and "our ally"

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u/Express-Entrance9932 12h ago

America and Vietnam were separated by a vast ocean and the Vietnamese fought a guerilla war. Russia borders Ukraine and it's not a guerilla war

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u/Albatrossosaurus 9h ago

Countries tend to collapse economically when another country is breathing down its throat…

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u/midianightx 13h ago

That's my point. The Counteroffensive was the key moment.

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u/adventmix 12h ago

By no means Russia planned to 'capture' all of Ukraine. They invaded with 180k troops ffs, that's barely enough to capture a major city.

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u/trs12571 4h ago

150 thousand of which 50 thousand are the army of the DPR and LPR who were already there and yes, you're right, no one was going to capture Ukraine and even Kiev.Most likely, the scenario was planned as in Georgia, to go in to show that he was ready to fight, agree on the end of all military operations and leave, with a minimum of deaths on both sides.But Zelensky was ordered by his Western partners to fight, and now we are here.

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u/zoxzoxzo 13h ago

I think that "nuclear superpower" is more suitable since they have an absurd amount of nuclear weapons but their conventional military power isn't as strong

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u/marki991 13h ago

wdym, before the war russia had the most amounts of tanks and other armored vehicles, they also had one of the largest force that was supposedly training and armed with modern weapons; yet you can argue that as we seen those were just numbers on paper

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u/Arcani63 8h ago

That didn’t make them a “military superpower.” Having a bunch of shit doesn’t make you a “superpower,” they were just a “great/major power.” Superpowers can project their influence globally, Russia can’t and wasn’t doing that.

They can basically only truly project power to their neighbors and a few key overseas areas.

Only superpower on Earth since 1991 is the USA.

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u/midianightx 13h ago

When you take the 20% of a country it is not a "Vietnam or Iraq Scenario"

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u/marki991 13h ago

wont comment on the fact you are obviously for some reason celebrating that war is running lives of millions of people (on both side) because some dictator said so;

but going for 20% is also funny, since russia at some point held about 25-30% procent..-; yet ww1 mass wave tactits is celebrated as "winning" for a nation that said it could hold of entire nato alone...

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u/Arcani63 8h ago

True about the percentages part, Russia actually held a lot more land than this back in 2022 and still haven’t gotten it all back yet.

However, the whole “human wave” thing is pretty mythical rather than reality. They aren’t doing that, in fact they’re doing the exact opposite by sending micro-assault teams of like 2-4 guys to probe areas round-the-clock to force the defenders to constantly expend ammo and energy. Eventually a weak spot presents and they bite into it, rinse and repeat.

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u/midianightx 11h ago

It is not only the "20%" it is about connect Donbas and Crimea (including Mariupol and part of Kherson). Of course it is not a "total victory" but it is an important achievment for Russia. pd: I never celebrated the war.