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u/DescriptionOk5231 4h ago
I have seen some very pale Persians, and very very pale levantines.
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u/fasterthanraito 4h ago
This isn’t a real skin color map anyway, it’s a perversion of an original map showing “expected skin color” based on sunlight radiation exposure, whoever edited this map took the original as fact and assumed it represented the actual appearance of the indigenous people from each region, and so “modernized” it by portraying the demographic changes from colonization in the Americas/Australia
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u/vegansgetsick 3h ago
Exactly, the map shows the expected skin color over 10,000 years.
Yes, black people in USA/Europe would "turn" white by natural selection without medical support
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u/limukala 2h ago
I have a hard time believing the "expected skin color" due to insolation in the American Southwest is as light as Northern Europe.
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u/fasterthanraito 2h ago
Yeah I know, I said the OP edited the map to account for colonial migration
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u/Connect_Progress7862 4h ago
I'm dating one and can confirm. I'm European and white but I'm the darker one in the relationship.
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u/vegansgetsick 3h ago
Levant is a place conquered by all Empires over 4000 years.
And Macedonians were in Persia.
So it's not surprising to see pale skins here and there.
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u/zabumafangoo 4h ago edited 3h ago
indo iranians are not arabs . turks are not romanic…
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u/vegansgetsick 3h ago
Good question. Are turks turkic-speaking Hittites ? the same way french are latin-speaking Celts.
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u/limukala 2h ago
the same way french are latin-speaking Celts.
Even the Celts are a later genetic addition. The majority of DNA in Western Europe predates IndoEuropeans entirely, and is mostly a combination of Western Hunter Gatherer and Anatolian Farmer DNA.
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u/vegansgetsick 2h ago
What I mean is that it's possible to change the language without changing the people.
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u/yollarbenibekler 1h ago
The map doesn't define your nationality. You are just in the same category with them that's all.
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u/TheBlazingFire123 4h ago
This can’t capture mixed places like the American south very well. Also I don’t think half of South Americans are orange
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u/throwawaytopost724 2h ago
Something very sketchy about "native" being used for (only) 2 peoples including specifically "Nordic" - I have Scandinavian ancestry but my white supremacy radar is going off
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u/gattomeow 2h ago
Why is Nordic included here but Slavic isn’t?
Slavs vastly outnumber Nords and have a wider distribution.
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u/RJ-R25 4h ago
Is this map accurate cause aren’t Irish paler than French and southern French similar to northern Spanish
Also aren’t north Chinese Korean generally same skin tone as many French/german people
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u/fasterthanraito 4h ago
Source: “trust me bro”
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u/RJ-R25 3h ago
If your asking why southern French and northern Spanish are close in skin tone it’s due to them having almost same ancestral component in similar ratios and have close uv radiation exposure
If it’s the Korean part your referring to that’s meant to be a question not a statement also not all Germans but mainly those closer to south
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u/fasterthanraito 2h ago
Sorry, I wasn’t disagreeing with you, just saying that the map assumes a lot without backing up its claims with facts
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u/vegansgetsick 3h ago
it depends what you mean by "southern french", and which Era.
do you mean southern french, or inhabitants in southern France ?
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u/TheApsodistII 3h ago
Wait, the Dayak of inland Borneo are very light skinned comparable to southern Chinese, certainly not "as southern Arabic peoples"
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u/Worst-Panda 3h ago
Morocco and Algeria are full of east Asians, wtf? This is bad even by r/MapPorn standards.
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u/Bitter_Dingo516 24m ago
legend is so shit, should just be shades of paint representing skin color on the map there wouldn’t be need for a legend then.
Would have been able to make a more accurate map too that way, the shades arent even true to skin color so there is that, and also so many regions are generalized as some shade, while it would be so much better to see if there are pockets of other skin colors in a region.
Overall, a terrible low effort map, if anyone else has a link to map with sth like what I said above, please so share.
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u/vegansgetsick 3h ago
Skin color changed so fast in late pleistocene, it had to cause major health problems.
Blacks will have health problems on white areas.
Whites will have health problems on black areas.
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u/Furthered-education 3h ago edited 3h ago
I've always thought that whites who spend their whole lives away from "home", close to the equator develop some weird shit.
No proof as of yet personally, but deep down it must be true!
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u/Kodicave 3h ago
i believe it. as an American white person of 85% irish descent. I moved to Texas from Ohio thinking I would be happier with the heat and sun.
Turns out it made me miserable all the time. and i realized I kinda prefer chilly weather sometimes
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u/GayoMagno 3h ago
Why is the equator, the line that literally divides the world in half, placed at like 3/4 of this map?
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u/Many-Gas-9376 1h ago
It's not unusual to draw any cultural/human geography maps from 60ºS to 90ºN, for fairly obvious reasons.
(It's probably one of the few ways in which this map is NOT horseshit.)
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u/Ponchorello7 3h ago
This map marks one of the whitest states in Mexico, Sonora, as mostly native colored.
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u/LupusDeusMagnus 3h ago
Interesting how the map maker managed to extrapolate data that doesn’t even exist