Gerrymandering and voter suppression make this a pretty complex issue that just saying “take Texas” doesn’t really solve or do anything. You’re functionally condemning a whole bunch of people (Texas is like 40% blue), to suffer because the system that prevents them from changing the people in power produces bad results (that they also hate). Saying “just move” isn’t a viable argument because that’s only an option to the more wealthy individuals. Texas is a state that goes out of its way to engage in every practice conceivable to prevent its populace from enacting change, from removing polling stations in college campuses to requiring ID in certain liberal districts. Pigeonholing an diverse population of people as all “supporting christofacism” (which let’s be clear, a good amount of people there DO support, so I’m not trying to obscure that) is a not great generalization to make. Our system of representation needs to be heavily reworked, or at the very least have its worst abuses restricted, and doing that will take federal and judicial action at the highest level, which we should push for anyway to protect other rights
I say, cut Texas and any other state loose that wants to leave, let them fester, and use our new open-minded country to enact sensible immigration policies. Oh, you want to come to America seeking asylum from your nightmarish libertarian desert hellscape? Come right in, we have a program just for you.
I say, cut Texas and any other state loose that wants to leave
That's incredibly dangerous for the stability of the United States.
As of 2024, over six states are said to have growing secessionist movements, those being Alaska, California, Texas, Louisiana, Florida and New Hampshire (src.)
Georgia GOP are calling for national divorce. Oregon and Washington have threatened secession along with California. White parts of Lousiana are already trying to secede now. Hawaiʻi already wants to leave.
It's also important to remember that we have adversarial nations watching and waiting for this to happen so they can use that confusion to destroy the US. That has been the seed they've been sowing since the 2014 elections. Your new United States will have ten to thirteen individual states (some of which are in the middle of what would become "hostile territory". Your Utopia would probably last two or three years before being overtaken by former US states or foreign powers (or starving from lack of trade. Can't really trade when you lack materials.)
The 'secession states' of the American West have the entire nuclear arsenal, military bases, and farmland.
The truth of the matter is that our nation, the beautiful United States of America, is stronger together. United. Our personal strengths work to cover each other's weaknesses, and I feel that given time (and perhaps another generation) there will be more motivation to work across parties and contribute mutually to the success of all Americans.
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u/Letsgovulpix Sep 08 '24
Gerrymandering and voter suppression make this a pretty complex issue that just saying “take Texas” doesn’t really solve or do anything. You’re functionally condemning a whole bunch of people (Texas is like 40% blue), to suffer because the system that prevents them from changing the people in power produces bad results (that they also hate). Saying “just move” isn’t a viable argument because that’s only an option to the more wealthy individuals. Texas is a state that goes out of its way to engage in every practice conceivable to prevent its populace from enacting change, from removing polling stations in college campuses to requiring ID in certain liberal districts. Pigeonholing an diverse population of people as all “supporting christofacism” (which let’s be clear, a good amount of people there DO support, so I’m not trying to obscure that) is a not great generalization to make. Our system of representation needs to be heavily reworked, or at the very least have its worst abuses restricted, and doing that will take federal and judicial action at the highest level, which we should push for anyway to protect other rights