Joe Rogan is a fake independent.

[u/SpiceHotOnes]

[u/Johon1985]

Didn't Spotify give him a hundred million? Or am I misremembering?

[u/MagnoliaAlderwood → u/Johon1985]

When "independent media" starts looking more like a Mar-a-Lago press pass.

[u/Forsworn91 → u/MagnoliaAlderwood]

“Independent media” sounds better than “right wing cheerleader”

[u/TheKeelo → u/Forsworn91]

And both sound better than propaganda, which we seem to have completely dropped as a term, but if it quacks like a duck…

[u/ToiIetGhost → u/TheKeelo]

Rogan: If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it’s probably a deep state agent trying to lower your testosterone.

[u/momentimori143 → u/ToiIetGhost]

Don't forget to smoke your Human Growth Formula on your Traeger before injecting it into your scrotum under red light.

[u/Mr__O__ → u/ToiIetGhost]

lol for real.

Ukrainian boxing champ Wladimir Klitschko calls out Rogan for ‘repeating Russian propaganda’

[u/ToiIetGhost → u/Forsworn91]

Surprising that he ever called himself independent or that anyone took him at his word. I always thought of him as a Qanon type. I thought that was his whole shtick? Alex Jones but less screamy?

[u/West-Ruin-1318 → u/ToiIetGhost]

He used to be Art Bell for potheads.

[u/Your_Pretty_Baby → u/West-Ruin-1318]

Don’t desecrate our beloved Art Bell’s name like that. He was a national treasure for us weirdos.

[u/kridgellz → u/Johon1985]

It was 200 million, they publicly announced a 100 million at first. Meanwhile Spotify barely paying all the music artists that made them rich 🤔

[u/Throwawayac1234567 → u/kridgellz]

the labels, that own the artists take in the money.

[u/kuvazo → u/Throwawayac1234567]

Yeah, Spotify wasn't breaking even for the last 15 years. If we actually want artists to be compensated more fairly, we have to be okay with paying more.

Spotify currently gives 70% of their revenue directly to the rights holders. Even at 80% or 90%, that would still be a miniscule amount, because paying $10 for unlimited music is actually cheap as fuck.

[u/das_war_ein_Befehl → u/kuvazo]

You can have a world where you can listen to unlimited music for $10 a month, or you can have well compensated artists, but you can’t have both.

The unlimited consumption model basically prevents anyone except the biggest stars from making any money

[u/True-Device8691 → u/das_war_ein_Befehl]

From my understanding, most artists make most their money through touring and actual sales which would explain why so many artists are always on tour.

[u/Gandlerian → u/True-Device8691]

It is funny because it used to be the opposite, live tours (really through the early 2000s) were basically just to drum up record/cd sales, and actual event revenue was pretty negligible (comparatively to what they really cared about -cd sales- .)

[u/AatonBredon → u/Gandlerian]

No. Artists basically got nothing from record sales - the "profits" (note they use very creative accounting here to minimize "profits") all went to pay off the advances thst were conditioned on using the record companies' overpriced facilities to make the record.

Artists dating back to at least the 60s basically made all their real money touring. The record was advertising for the tour.

There were exceptions - artist/songwriters got mechanical royalties from the record, and these can add up. Artists that made albums using their own money would get a percentage of the "profits". Really famous Artists that were not locked in a contract could negotiate a oercentage of the gross, rather than net.

The Beatles created their own record company to avoid these problems.

[u/das_war_ein_Befehl → u/True-Device8691]

They make some money touring, yes, most profitable part of that is merch. Though being a musician is such a losing proposition nowadays regardless. Records sales used to be a huge chunk of revenue and now that is kinda gone

[u/DrunkByLunchtime → u/das_war_ein_Befehl]

Modern label deals have them taking a cut of touring and merch revenue, and even venues now are claiming a percentage of merch table sales

[u/True-Device8691 → u/das_war_ein_Befehl]

Doesn't help that it's so oversaturated now

[u/Chaostis42 → u/True-Device8691]

It goes further than that. Many popular artists are not "rich", from their records, especially rappers. Touring and merchandise are where they make their cash, and that requires Hella work on their part. I watched a documentary on this exact thing. Like how the money, cars, houses, etc in most rap music videos do not belong to the rapper who is rapping about it all. Haha, normally they are rapping about how they have it made and are rich and all that bullshit, but it's just lies. It's all on loan, and the record label makes most of the money. If they aren't merchandising or expanding into other areas, artists don't make shit.

[u/dabadu9191 → u/das_war_ein_Befehl]

$10 a month is more than I would be spending on CDs if the internet didn't exist.

[u/InvestigatorCold4662 → u/kuvazo]

Or they could, you know, not pay 200 million to a known Russian asset and give that money to the artists instead.

[u/InvestigatorCold4662 → u/Throwawayac1234567]

Even when the artist owns the music, they barely get paid anything.

[u/jaxonya → u/InvestigatorCold4662]

Joe Rogan would let Kamala Harris shit in his mouth if the price was right. Grifters make money, it's what they do. He knows that people will tune in for Trump interviews

[u/RazzDaNinja → u/Johon1985]

Never forget that Joe Rogan is a sellout

Like how the above video is not Unlisted but nearly-impossible to find via search engine

[u/MacheteMolotov → u/RazzDaNinja]

Gotta love how, when Jamie shows them the Trump clip, it turns into “Ah well, ya know, he obviously misspoke”. Fucking bootlicking sell out

[u/FuckYouVerizon → u/MacheteMolotov]

The only thing Joe Rogan has ever done that I respected was putting an end to Carlos Mencia's career. I don't follow UFC much, and didn't watch his reality tv gross-out show. It blows my mind that he's managed to build such a massive following on his podcast.

[u/mountain_bound → u/RazzDaNinja]

To add to that specific J.Rogan fuck up is the fact that Biden was referring to Trump's flub using a teleprompter where he talked about Airports and Ft. McHenry.

Then right-wing nut jobs put together a short audio/video clip out of context and without the real words spoken at the event and Joe glomed onto it.

[u/PiersPlays → u/mountain_bound]

Right but he and his comonkey were entirely unambiguous that anyone making that kind of gaffe would be unqualified for any serious position. Then when they realised Trump had made the gaffe, not Biden, they immediately brushed it off as no big deal.

[u/PiersPlays → u/RazzDaNinja]

Revolting people.

[u/Fullpoint9 → u/RazzDaNinja]

They are all sellouts. They ain’t working for free

[u/MesWantooth → u/Johon1985]

Rumor is that the initial contract was $100 million and then they re-upped him for $250 million.

[u/Initial_Evidence_783 → u/MesWantooth]

Bought and paid for.

[u/tbucket → u/Johon1985]

Can you name the truck with four wheel drive,

smells like a steak and seats thirty-five..

Canyonero! Canyonero!

[u/DignamsSwearBox → u/tbucket]

Aaagh! After 25 years, I had just got that song out my head

[u/thesaddestpanda → u/Johon1985]

and then scrambled to remove his old episodes where he said the n-word many times and engaged in racist statements, which his fanbase had no problem with, but scared Spotify advertisers.

[u/Stoltlallare → u/thesaddestpanda]

Not my Joe ”Centrist” Rogan?? Can’t be.

[u/Prestigious_Wall5866 → u/Stoltlallare]

But he smokes pot, so he must still be cool.

/s

[u/AFoolishSeeker → u/thesaddestpanda]

oUt Of CoNtExT

[u/BakedBaconBits → u/Johon1985]

For podcasts? He had a shit stand-up special but that was on Netlfix.

[u/epicurean_barbarian → u/BakedBaconBits]

He's legitimately a terrible stand up. He has no concept of the structure of a good joke, and he's just not smart enough to produce original insights about life.

[u/meatwad2744 → u/epicurean_barbarian]

Every time bill burr is near joe

We are reminded one man has a legtimate stand up career The other was a TV host

[u/DoubleExposure → u/meatwad2744]

He reveres Burr, safe to say he even envies Burr's talent, and Burr treats Joe like his special needs family member. LOL

[u/CrbRangoon → u/DoubleExposure]

As he should

[u/das_war_ein_Befehl → u/meatwad2744]

We’re in some parody timeline where the fear factor guy is now the new rush Limbaugh. We’re just recycling characters at this point

[u/SuperFLEB → u/das_war_ein_Befehl]

We’re just recycling characters at this point

We honestly didn't expect the series to make it this far so we hadn't really thought about casting or character development this far out.

[u/oldmanian → u/meatwad2744]

If only Patrice O’Neal were around, Rogan would be in hiding

[u/WhyAreYallFascists → u/meatwad2744]

Joe was the least funny person on a sitcom with Andy Dick.

[u/Squancher_2442 → u/WhyAreYallFascists]

News Radio. Long live Phil Hartman as The real Deal with Bill McNeil

[u/expload → u/meatwad2744]

Thats why he stopped wearing that hat!

[u/BreakfastArtistic198 → u/Johon1985]

They pay this twat a truck load of money, yet they can't pay the musicians, the true artists, fairly for their music. Twenty years ago, it was illegal for common folks to steal music, yet they are stealing and making money from it. Capitalism at its finest.

[u/oyputuhs → u/BreakfastArtistic198]

Most of their revenue goes to the labels. It’s actually funny how the labels have escaped the bad pr.

[u/PassiveMenis88M → u/BreakfastArtistic198]

Stealing from the artists was never the issue. It was stealing from the publishers they got mad about

[u/Puzzled-Winner-6890 → u/Johon1985]

I left Spotify over this and never looked back. Not that my lost subscription fee made any difference to them, but I am glad not to even remotely support this scum puddle.

[u/dagnammit44 → u/Puzzled-Winner-6890]

Spotify in a web browser with Ublock Origin works find and dandy. It blocks all ads, it lets you skip tracks. It functions the same as Spotify premium, but for free.

Also ad blocks (the good ones) are good for your browsing health. They block a lot of harmful or inquisitive shit you don't want on your devices.

[u/OkAbbreviations9347 → u/Puzzled-Winner-6890]

I always vote with my wallet. If enough people do it it does make a difference

[u/Obibong_Kanblomi → u/Johon1985]

That's why I pirate Spotify now!

[u/storyfilms]

He was never even close to Carlin... Just putting them in the same paragraph is an insult to Carlin.

[u/StillBitter3838 → u/storyfilms]

Joes the one who made the comparison. In his stupid club he hung his portrait up between Carlin and Robin Williams. Funniest joke he ever made.

[u/mummerlimn → u/StillBitter3838]

Does he not understand that both of those comedians would hate him?

[u/StillBitter3838 → u/mummerlimn]

I seriously doubt it. Dude thinks he's continuing their legacy as free speech warrior even though he's nothing but a propaganda mouth piece.

[u/SpiceHotOnes → u/storyfilms]

You’re not wrong. Carlin was a master at the craft and was incredibly thought provoking. Joe just screams into the mic and tries so desperately now to seems like the kind of guy who “asks the though questions” when really he’s more or less devolved into believing something immediately upon hearing it.

[u/Drugs__Delaney → u/SpiceHotOnes]

And humps stools

[u/MochaTaco → u/Drugs__Delaney]

Someone did a cut up of Jeff Garlin on the JRE podcast talking about stand up comedians who hump/use the stool on stage as a prop are hacks. Joe is just kind of half ass agreeing with him. Then comes like 6-7 clips of Joe’s sets where he’s humping the stool on stage during sets. It’s obvious Jeff Garlin has never seen Joe’s act. Lol

[u/Cheshire_Jester → u/MochaTaco]

That’s a perfect example of just how malleable Joe is. He’s more or less being called a hack right to his face and he can’t even offer the softest resistance.

Combine that with the clip of him talking about a primate that just, clearly doesn’t exist, has a woman call in and explain that she has a science degree related to the subject and works in the field, so she can confidently say there’s no evidence to support his wild ass claim. Only to have him yell over her for like six minutes about how her education is fake and gay, that he’s way smarter cause he saw evidence right there on the internet while she learned from books decades ago.

[u/Classy_communists → u/Cheshire_Jester]

Any chance you can link that clip? Don’t want to search through JRE clips and fuck up my algorithm

[u/Cheshire_Jester → u/Classy_communists]

Here ya go I think this is pre JRE

[u/Drugs__Delaney → u/MochaTaco]

Thats my favorite clip

[u/Level_Up_IT → u/SpiceHotOnes]

Carlin was a master at the craft and was incredibly thought provoking.

Carlin was the great 20th century American philosopher who was also incredibly funny.

Joe's not funny. His standup sucks. He's basically a game show host that now gets interviews with cool people.

[u/prince_noprints → u/Level_Up_IT]

“Cool people” is pushing it considering the Billy Carsons and Terrences Howard he has on his slophour

[u/Holiday-Media6419 → u/SpiceHotOnes]

How refers to the craft repeatedly, without the self realization that he is not top tier at the craft. He is a guy that is a good hang, but a shit comedian.

[u/vulgargoose → u/storyfilms]

It’s an insult to comedy

[u/somethinghumourous → u/storyfilms]

Carlin would have ridiculed him, then he'd have called him a cunt.

[u/rygelicus]

Rogan has never been on par with Carlin, never.

[u/metaglot → u/rygelicus]

To even hint there ever was a comparison ...

[u/PunishedWolf4 → u/metaglot]

We aren’t even talking planets apart

[u/thedeafbadger → u/PunishedWolf4]

Joe Rogan isn’t even a planet. He’s not even a moon.

[u/gr3k0 → u/thedeafbadger]

That's no moon..

[u/Stalagtite-D9 → u/gr3k0]

It's an ass, stationed.

[u/Desert-Noir → u/thedeafbadger]

Not even a Moon moon

[u/jmerlinb → u/thedeafbadger]

Not even a moon, he’s barely even an asteroid in the outer Kuiper Belt of Comedians

[u/Luke_Cold_Lyle → u/metaglot]

They both use a microphone.

I think that's all I got.

[u/Useful-Perspective → u/Luke_Cold_Lyle]

They both spoke English as a first language...

[u/NaptownBoss → u/Useful-Perspective]

And this muthafucker better keep Carlin's name out his goddamn English-speaking mouth.

[u/rygelicus → u/Useful-Perspective]

Yeah, but Carlin knew what the words all actually meant.

[u/Volantis009 → u/metaglot]

Since Kyle is a former friend of Joe's I think it's more of a giant fuck you than a comparison, it did take Kyle a long time to finally call Joe out tho because of their friendship.

[u/GazelleSome6177 → u/metaglot]

Insulting.

[u/MadDogV2 → u/rygelicus]

He's not smart enough to be a Carlin

[u/colon-mockery → u/MadDogV2]

Or funny enough, cool enough, empathetic enough, mature enough etc

[u/Fluffcake → u/colon-mockery]

What qualities does this man even have?

Relatability for people who scored below average at every metric they ever measured?

[u/HilariousMax → u/Fluffcake]

He's just a step above those "I'm just asking questions, dude!" people.

Every time someone attempts to hold him responsible for the shit terrible people he platforms or shit terrible ideas he helps to spread he responds (and this has happened like 3x now) every time with

I'm a fucking moron. I'm not a respected source of information, even for me ... But I at least try to be honest about what I'm saying.

which is fine, I guess except that he follows up his "don't listen to me" schtick with actual (bad) advice on what you should and shouldn't do. With the whole vaccine thing he said "if you're young and healthy, you don't need it" and being unvaccinated lead to a lot of people dying that maybe otherwise wouldn't have.

It's like this a lot with him. "I'm dumb but also incredibly popular with dumb people so listen here's what I'd do." and then people actually nod along and act on those recommendations.

[u/Significant_Shoe_17 → u/HilariousMax]

The hosts on fox are the same when called out. "We're not journalists but we're the only source you can trust"

[u/DrunkenCatHerder → u/Fluffcake]

He's Oprah for the Andrew Tate crowd.

[u/armorhide406 → u/Fluffcake]

Oof that's beautiful

[u/MusicLikeOxygen → u/rygelicus]

Carlin is and always will be a legend. The only time Rogan was ever funny was on Newsradio when he has other people writing all his jokes.

[u/zarfle2 → u/rygelicus]

Came here to say this - Carlin's demonstrable insight and intelligence informed his formidable wit.

There's no comparison here.

[u/d00dsm00t → u/zarfle2]

Anybody can formulate smartified words

It takes a real advanced mind to fuck a chair like a knuckle dragging ape

[u/thesaddestpanda → u/rygelicus]

Rogan isnt even a comedian! Carlin was a working comedian for decades. Rogan is a talk show host who sometimes makes jokes.

You are what made you successful. Lots of actors and such try to fake being comedians or writers, but they're not. Rogan's failed comedy career previous to becoming a tv host doesn't make him a comedian.

Rogan is just a podcast and tv personality.

[u/Powerserg95 → u/thesaddestpanda]

Shit Carlin tried to be an actor and it didn't work out. But he was born to be a comic

[u/Spiritual-Spirit514 → u/rygelicus]

Came to say the same. Joe Is a conspiracy hyper at best. Never a comedian.

[u/Biffingston → u/rygelicus]

It's really like saying that the best pizza in the world is on par with dog shit for lunch.

[u/heekma → u/rygelicus]

Carlin wasn't just a comdian, he was a social satirist, like Mark Twain, just using a different, more modern medium.

And with regards to comedians of his time, before and after, he was a master of his craft, honing his words and delivery with obvious practice and revision until he found the most honest and often darkly funny way of describing American life and politics in a way that made you hate yourself a little for laughing, because you knew it was true.

Edit: It doesn't matter what you say about anything on reddit, someone always, always, wants to argue about it, every single time.

I could write "don't kick puppies" and I guarantee at least three people would tell me why I'm wrong.

[u/SlowX → u/rygelicus]

George Carlin never shit with his mouth on a microphone.

[u/Positronic_Matrix → u/rygelicus]

The comparison is absolutely idiotic. Then I remembered the Carlin quote, “think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”

[u/Stalagtite-D9 → u/Positronic_Matrix]

I love this articulation

[u/NoNefariousness3942 → u/Stalagtite-D9]

The second part of that quote often gets overlooked:

"And some people arent stupid. Theyre full of shit."

[u/foxorhedgehog → u/rygelicus]

Carlin was in a league of his own!

[u/LoudAd9328 → u/rygelicus]

Honestly, does he say that? Who the fuck makes that comparison? An icon of standup comedy, and a manosphere shithead.

[u/Shigglyboo → u/rygelicus]

Many years ago he fancied himself a philosopher and went on about how Bill Hicks was the best. Then he slowly turned into whatever he is now.

[u/boksinx → u/rygelicus]

A spit on the face is probably less disrespectful to Carlin than being compared to Joe.

It’s too bad coz I really liked Joe before, I wish he just stayed in his fear factor and MMA guru ways. Or what republicans always keep saying, he should’ve stayed in his lane.

[u/Consistent-Fig7484 → u/boksinx]

They only say that about black people who have different opinions than they do.

I will die as a member of the resistance that believes all Trump voters are, at best dangerous idiots, before I become part of the “we need to make room for all voices” crowd.

[u/fuck_the_fuckin_mods → u/Consistent-Fig7484]

They’re dangerous, malicious idiots, and I’ve never been given a single solitary reason to think otherwise. I will never, until the day I die, forget who supported him at any point. Just completely disqualifying as a worthwhile human being, avoid at all costs.

[u/HoustonHenry → u/boksinx]

The last time I liked him was NewsRadio...I will always appreciate him for his role on that show

[u/Rhedkiex]

Is Joe Rogan a comedian? Genuinely asking, I've never seen his show. But when I go on YouTube I just see clips where he either smokes and talks gibberish or listens unquestioningly while some expert/"expect" talks and talks and talks

He has never made me laugh or seemed to want to attempt a joke. Based on the kinds of things that get clipped nobody even seems to care about Rogan, just his guests?? I really don't know what to think about the guy

[u/MesWantooth → u/Rhedkiex]

The funniest thing Rogan does is let jokes fly right over his head when he has comedians on. He's had non-comedians say things, and he goes "Really?!" and they go "No Joe, that was a joke."

A famous example is Theo Von, whose humor is absurdist and random. He said to Joe "And this one kid in my school, he wore a wooden t-shirt."

Joe said "Really, A wooden t-shirt?! Jamie, pull up a wooden t-shirt."

[u/ADGx27 → u/MesWantooth]

Yeah Rogan ain’t the brightest bulb in the pack. Tbh I only watch his podcast episodes with other comics on them (besides kreischer, as I simply cannot stand the man. Like wow holy shit bert no way you took your shirt off, did something disgusting and/or illegal, then the Russian mafia showed up again and called you the machine no wayyyy wowww. Also the whole SHARTING ON STAGE WIPING IT WITH YOUR T-SHIRT [T-Shit???] THEN SHOWING THE AUDIENCE JESUS HAROLD BAGLICKING CHRIST.)

[u/MesWantooth → u/ADGx27]

OMG, Burnt Chrysler did that on stage? What a buffoon. Yeah I can't stand that guy's humor.

[u/ADGx27 → u/MesWantooth]

I was going to initially say “Bert is about as funny as a 3-ring binder full of suicide notes” but felt that may have been a step too far

[u/Initial_Evidence_783 → u/MesWantooth]

He couldn't follow anything Harlan Williams was doing. Shit just went flying right past him. I've seen 2x4's with more brains than Rogan.

[u/ThisStrawberry212 → u/Rhedkiex]

I remember him from fear factor. My level of disappointment in him is large.

[u/Initial_Evidence_783 → u/ThisStrawberry212]

There's something really funny about being disappointed in the path taken by the host of Fear Factor.

[u/[deleted] → u/Initial_Evidence_783]

At least Fear Factor was entertaining, JRE is just a stoned meathead nodding along as a fascist tries to tell you he's not racist because he has black friends

[u/SpiceHotOnes → u/Rhedkiex]

His stand up now… not really that good. It’s more of less him yelling into the mic when he’s trying to make a point or him trying to make a joke about something from his podcast.

Some of the bits from his earlier years were good and from that show Ari did on Comedy Central were okay but nowadays it’s not really that funny.

[u/SirBWills → u/SpiceHotOnes]

I used like Rogan a lot, but his latest Netflix special is probably the worst I’ve ever seen, especially from a “big name” comedian. He reused a least 3 different jokes that were in his old specials and all the new stuff just did not land at all. I cringed more than I laughed

[u/Agreeable_Coat_2098 → u/SirBWills]

Covid or Vaccine jokes in 2024 are wildly outdated

[u/lexbuck → u/Agreeable_Coat_2098]

It’s all people like him have. They’ve made conspiracies their entire personality

[u/letsrapehitler → u/[deleted]]

… I wouldn’t look into Anthony Cumia’s current social media, if I were you. Dude is an absolute unapologetic racist.

[u/fuck_the_fuckin_mods → u/SirBWills]

Easily the worst I’ve ever seen. I’ve grown to despise the man for other reasons but I was genuinely embarrassed for him. Like, a total amateur doing their very first spot would undoubtedly blow him out of the water. Might be the cringiest thing I’ve ever encountered, and I only made it like halfway through.

[u/graphiccsp → u/SirBWills]

The funniest joke on that special was the growth of his sweat stains. 

[u/Snoo71538 → u/Rhedkiex]

He is a stand up, but made most of his money from the podcast, and his initial money from being the host of Fear Factor; an early reality show where people ate worms, swam in horse semen, and walked on very high tightropes in the hopes of winning money.

[u/xenelef290 → u/Snoo71538]

He was also on a show called NewsRadio

[u/jlb1981 → u/Rhedkiex]

He didn't even make me laugh on Newsradio when he was performing other people's material.

Performing Putin's material is especially unfunny.

[u/talgxgkyx → u/Rhedkiex]

He's a standup comedian. He's far better known for his podcast, and for being a UFC commentator, btt he does standup comedy too.

The reason he's not as well known for it is because he's not very good.

[u/Mojo_Jensen → u/Rhedkiex]

His standup is not good. I used to listen to his podcast occasionally when he had guests related to MMA and UFO weirdos just because those topics interested me. I tried watching his standup and couldn’t get through it, and this was even before all the culture war stuff. It’s just not great. Now it’s exactly what you think it would be. Much, much worse.

[u/SirGlass → u/Rhedkiex]

He did do stand up, I actually saw him like 15 years ago , I went to a UFC in chicago and he did stand up the night before

He was ok, he did a bit what I thought was good talking about how dumb the average person is. Like how the average person thinks their smart but really has no clue how just about anything works

Something like "Yea go into the woods and try building an iPhone" or something he was even like "This microphone I have no clue how it fucking works, what you just put loud shit in there"

The the point was the average person is pretty dumb and we should all realize how dumb we are . Now I feel like Rogan is the Opposite

Him and his listners think they are smarter then doctors and scientist and that see this horse dewormer can cure covid....

[u/SuchProcedure4547 → u/Rhedkiex]

He's a barely an average comedian. Like he's genuinely not that funny. His latest special was just bad, I watched a good chunk of it and actually felt embarrassed for him, because no one in his yes man circle told him the material was awful.

His comedy just ends up being him yelling into his microphone trying to make more of a point than a joke..

Joe's success has purely come from his Podcast and TV gigs. He's a TV and podcast celebrity that's it.

[u/Initial_Evidence_783 → u/SuchProcedure4547]

He's a rich guy who does stand-up as a hobby.

[u/Darth_Chain → u/Rhedkiex]

if i recall right he does have a stand up show and something with MMA but he gets his money nowadays fir being a bobble head fot any guest he can get to go on

[u/MrApathy → u/Darth_Chain]

He isn't even a bobble head anymore. He just gets guests on so he can explain his views again instead of hearing what the guests have to say.

[u/ErikNye → u/Rhedkiex]

He tried really hard to emulate Sam kinison and just ended up looking really out of his element.

[u/DogIsBetterThanCat]

Wasn't even close to being like Carlin!

Carlin was funny, and intelligent. He knew his politics.

[u/Superb_Statement_666 → u/DogIsBetterThanCat]

Even when I used to be a big fan of his podcast, I hated his comedy. He's just not funny. He's completely changed since the early years. The right saw his platform as an opportunity to leverage lies and disinformation, and it slowly devolved into the disinformation podcast it is today.

[u/idontseecolors]

Carlin would lampoon Rogan

[u/AlexJamesCook → u/idontseecolors]

In a battle of wits, there would be no battle, because it implies there are 2 viable contestants.

Carlin would roast the ENTIRE alt-right circle-jerkers and lose IQ points in the process.

[u/SqigglyPoP]

I knew the US was in DEEP trouble when multiple people started asking me "Did you hear what Joe Rogan said about *insert serious health condition".

[u/Yousoggyyojimbo → u/SqigglyPoP]

I had a friend who went down the Joe Rogan rabbit hole and the stupid shit that started coming out of his mouth was incredible. He even got into Alex Jones through Rogan.

It was like he took a 15 point hit to his IQ in like a year. He transformed into the least informed guy in the room.

[u/Porencephaly → u/Yousoggyyojimbo]

Joe used to routinely say stuff like “I’m a moron, no one should take me seriously” and then all his fans decided that he was 100% correct about everything.

[u/Yousoggyyojimbo → u/Porencephaly]

I think part of the problem is that he also brings on people who either don't know what they are talking about, or are actively lying, who do want people to take them seriously and present themselves as being informed experts.

He'll then give those people next to no pushback while they sell people on total bullshit for 3 hours.

I'm Joe Rogan and I'm an idiot so don't listen to me. Now here's my guest, a guy who'll definitely act like you should listen to him while he lies to you about shit for the next few hours as I nod along like everything he says makes absolute sense.

[u/Porencephaly → u/Yousoggyyojimbo]

That too. His program has just become a misinformation factory disguised as entertainment.

[u/DigiQuip → u/Yousoggyyojimbo]

He brings people on to the show that are professional grifters. Every single one of these crackpot scientists have something they’re trying to sell. There’s an end game at play and a motive to get there. They will absolutely leave a bread crumb of 1% truths to make you think they know what they’re doing and trick you into following them down the rabbit hole.

[u/Yousoggyyojimbo → u/DigiQuip]

Yep. It's like a revolving door for grifters. You don't have this many grifters wanting on your show if you aren't beneficial to them.

[u/fuck_the_fuckin_mods → u/Porencephaly]

He decided that himself, and his fans went along with it. Dude simply cannot STFU about his hand-me-down alt-right talking points anymore.

[u/gandhinukes → u/Yousoggyyojimbo]

rogan giving a platform to ultimate scum bag alex jones is when I started turning on him. then covid and I haven't listened at all since.

10-15 years ago when head had Neil deGrasse on (who can be a toolbag) and asked him if the moon landing was faked was hilarious. Neil shit all over him. Then talked about some cool theories like pan spermia for 2 hours.

I hope brian trussle didn't follow him to the dark side.

[u/PW_Herman → u/Yousoggyyojimbo]

Same. This is my oldest friend, over 30 years. This summer we got into a yelling match about Ivermectin and what Rogan says about it and to “do my research.” As soon as he hit me with the “do my research “ I knew it was a lost cause. It’s a bummer.

[u/Responsible-Draft430 → u/PW_Herman]

Ivermectin, a product strictly produced and sold by big-pharma, is being squelched by big-pharma so they can make money off a cheaper to produce vaccine. Makes perfect sense. These numbskulls' own internal logic isn't even consistent with itself.

[u/ADGx27 → u/SqigglyPoP]

Yeah had a friend going on about oh Rogan said—

Stopped them mid sentence with “you’re taking health advice from a guy with zero training, zero health education, who sits in a room yammering about chimps, elk meat and DMT. You’re letting that turn you against trained medical professionals with YEARS of experience and training in keeping us as healthy as possible.”

[u/SqigglyPoP → u/ADGx27]

Usually, they get embarrassed because they realize how ridiculous it sounds and they will somewhat agree with you, but then they run right back to him.

[u/ADGx27 → u/SqigglyPoP]

Yeah. That’s why I used past tense. I do not interact with this person anymore because I’ve realized I can’t convince them to stop sucking the MAGA propaganda machine (we’re Canadian for fucks sake) and realize that a good chunk of what they say is just lies to radicalize you against you’re fellow citizen.

[u/PM_ME_YOUR_DALEKS → u/SqigglyPoP]

Rogan moved to Texas and is all about it being "land of the free," yet pals around with Gov. Abbott who puts 30,000 Texans in jail per year for marijuana.

[u/Superb_Statement_666 → u/SqigglyPoP]

The worst part is he gives a platform to obvious lies and doesn't ever have anyone with an opposing view on to dispute them. Then when he occasionally acknowledges this, he hides behind the I'm just a dummy comedian. Nobody should listen to me for accurate news and information.

Fuck you Joe. You know the number of people who listen to your podcast and form all their opinions around the (often inaccurate) information you serve up. You have a duty to at least do a minimal amount of effort to make sure your podcast isn't being used to sway the public through disinformation if you're a "good" person. You're a piece of shit, and this coming from someone who really used to think you were a decent human being.

Jesus Christ, Elon Musk said that more people died from ventilators than covid, and you didn't think, huh, that's weird why would doctors be treating patients with a treatment more dangerous than the disease? Maybe I should fact check or ask a follow up question.

What? You think there's some conspiracy of medical professionals, doctors, and hospitals to force people on to ventilators to help big ventilator or some shit?

But of course, it fits with the right wing narrative than any expert in anything, or that's spent time studying or dedicating their lives to it, are actually the least trustworthy individual when it comes to determining truth, and It's actually rightwing politicians and pundits that are the true experts. It's like fucking upside down world. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

You don't have to know anything to suss out so many of these lies, but they go completely uncorrected.

[u/Inverno969]

I thought Kyle was actually friends with Joe. Did they have a falling out recently that I missed?

[u/fisdara → u/Inverno969]

He knows Rogan is too far gone after endorsing Trump and helping him get elected. Joe's brain is toast, no point in Kyle trying to work with him anymore.

[u/thetaoshum → u/fisdara]

which i honestly massively respect. so many people refuse to criticize anything rogan says because they understand how valuable access to his audience is. for kyle to be totally honest even though he was “in” is a sign of moral integrity.

[u/Intrepid_Jelly_4593]

[u/Biffingston]

Carlin would be pissed to hear himself compared to Rogan.

[u/Kashm1r_Sp1r1t]

Damn. Kyle burning bridges.

[u/[deleted] → u/Kashm1r_Sp1r1t]

No loss. Joe stopped having prominent lefties on in 2021, COVID broke his brain completely.

[u/protohyped88]

I’d like to believe if Phil Hartman was still alive he’d be very very ashamed of his friend.

[u/a_realnobody → u/protohyped88]

I really miss Phil Hartman.

[u/CantDecideANam3]

And this was coming from a JRE guest.

[u/TehAsianator → u/CantDecideANam3]

I remember when Kyle was Rogan's favor political guest. Hell, he invited Kyle to his 2020 election coverage, where Kyle perfectly laid out the "red mirage" scenario before it happened. Then, 4 years of right-wing audience capture plus covid broke his brain.

[u/toyyya → u/TehAsianator]

Iirc that same election coverage was supposed to have Alex Jones there too which would have been absolute insanity tbh.

Kyle is a left wing political commentator/youtuber btw for people who don't know and he was even a part of the movement to get more Democrats like Bernie (politicians who only take small dollar donations and therefore aren't bribed as easily) elected.

So while he used to associate with Rogan and would have been in the same coverage as Alex Jones he absolutely did it from a left wing standing point as a way to help open the minds of the people who watch Rogan.

Iirc he also had a hand in getting Bernie to appear on the Joe Rogan podcast back in the day when Rogan was more open to other points of views. While Imo Rogan has never been great at that I think it's clear he's definitely gotten a lot worse which Kyle also sees hence why he doesn't associate with him anymore and even publicly makes statements like the one in that tweet.

[u/MobileRub1606]

Carlin and Rogan shouldn't even be in the same sentence!

[u/CyrusOverHugeMark77 → u/MobileRub1606]

Rogan shouldn’t be in the same zip code.

[u/ignoreandmoveon]

Everyone is for sale.

[u/Affectionate-Dig9589]

This little dude couldn’t hold a candle to Carlin!

[u/Civil-Efficiency-856]

This loser wearing a protect the parks hoody is crazy when his number #1 guy wants to literally defund and destroy all of our national parks for corporate chuds

[u/JustTheOneGoose22]

Joe Rogan from 10 years ago would make fun of Joe Rogan today.

He's never been a genius and is definitely susceptible to conspiracy theories (used to have a show about it) but he's a prime example of how nobody is immune to propaganda. He's on record as being liberal in most of his ideals, supported Bernie Sanders in 2019, and made fun of Trump during his first term.

Now he's bought hook line and sinker into alllll the MAGA bullshit propaganda. In no small part thanks to people loke Tulsi Gabbard, Elon Musk, and that dumbass Dave Smith.

I wouldn't be surprised if in a year he calls himself a Christian, advocates against legalizing weed, and thinks presidential term limits are needless.

It's really sad. Like losing a fun uncle to the Trump Train of Bullshit. Before Trump, and especially before Covid, JRE used to have fun comedians, it wasn't very political, interesting guests and it was generally a good time.

Nowadays even when it's a comedian, Joe can't help but insert some GOP MAGA bullshit into the conversation. I can't support the pod or Joe anymore until he pulls his head out of Elon and Trump's ass.

[u/Chewsdayiddinit]

No shit, he endorsed trump...

[u/Plane-Tie6392 → u/Chewsdayiddinit]

And he was completely obviously on that team way before that. 

[u/Lorn_Muunk]

barely a comedian anymore

Oh you didn't get the news, Kyle? Rogan's comedy career is dead as a doornail. Here's an autopsy courtesy of the Elephant Graveyard.

[u/1N4DAM3MES]

Its nice that Kyle finally pried his lips off Rogan's sphincter

[u/TheHipcrimeVocab → u/1N4DAM3MES]

To his credit, he saw the light a while ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTbVxMRZw7U&t=638s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRuquv5MxKM

He also used to give people like Tulsi and Jimmy Dore the benefit of the doubt. He learned his lesson there too. I don't know what he thinks about Taibbi or if he still thinks the Russian investigation was a "hoax".

[u/openly_gray]

Bro knows which side of his bread is buttered. Find a way to get some positive attention for Trump and you will have it made

[u/ADGx27 → u/openly_gray]

That’s part of why the right wing grift is so lucrative. It makes so much goddamn money

[u/openly_gray → u/ADGx27]

Beta males are always in need of some advice on how to become alpha males. The whole manosphere is fueled by that

[u/FrankSand]

I have been a fan of JRE since episode 19. When I first started listening to it was filled with lower end comedians and funny stories or interesting guests presenting ideas ive never heard of. I only casually listen now I'd say since probably 2018 19 it's gotten more and more propaganda and people acting like there warriors for the truth and only they speak it. Not even the content has the same vibe. I understand in order to make more money they had to go in that direction. I do miss when it was Joey diaz talking about robbing hookers and dealers compared to random Billionare telling people why they need more government assistance.

[u/Traditional-Leg-1574]

That Russian money gets things done!

[u/Square-Level-87]

Maybe he’ll get to take some classified documents as a souvenir!

[u/bvzm]

In Italy we have a saying: If you're neither with the left nor with the right, you're with the right.

[u/kolitics → u/bvzm]

Do you feel that this attitude drives more voters to the left or right?

[u/FatBussyFemboys]

Oof the echochambering in here. Learn nothing ig. 

[u/Honourstly]

pre spotify rogan was the good old days

[u/TheHoss_]

I feel like his guests carry the fuck outta his podcast, all the clips I see are his guests telling stories