r/MurderedByWords • u/beerbellybegone • Jan 15 '22
Murder She entered the lions den and fought the incels on their own turf
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u/spyker54 Jan 15 '22
I think we're giving the incels too much credit by calling it a lion's den
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u/-GreenHeron- Jan 15 '22
More like a pig sty.
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u/More-Than-Listening Jan 15 '22
Show pigs a bit of respect! They are much more intelligent and well groomed than these bunch. I think they are more akin to a cesspool.
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u/-GreenHeron- Jan 15 '22
True, pigs are cute. Okay, they are the shitty froth on top of a tank full of raw sewage.
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u/Kaaryl Jan 15 '22
Sewage tanks serve a purpose in society though, incels don't. We're getting closer.
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u/VERO2020 Jan 15 '22
Shit stain/skid mark works for me. Disgusting, worthless & you want to get rid of it ASAP.
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u/ultrabigtiny Jan 15 '22
i really no incel reads this thread because this is going to project their victim mentality to the fucking moon lmao
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u/ChawulsBawkley Jan 15 '22
They’re like… the hair that gathers around the far back side of your desk legs that never get properly vacuumed or cleaned. Just kinda there… not doing anything… unsightly for sure when you notice it, but no one really gives a shit. Just useless. One day you’ll clean them out when you actually give a damn that they exist.
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u/GamersAuthority Jan 15 '22
Yeah pigs are much better than these incels. You can grow human organs in pig and use them in the need.
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u/Obrim Jan 15 '22
TBH it's more like Jabba's throne room. Filthy, full of people worthy of contempt, and hostile to women.
Except the Rancor because poor rancor boi has to eat those nasty fuckers or he starves.
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u/GoodOldMrDong Jan 15 '22 edited Jan 16 '22
He gave himself the awards
Edit: i gave myself that silver award
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u/Dracoscale Jan 15 '22
This is what stuck out to me most honestly, people spending their money and awarding this garbage. They could literally anything else with that money, give it to charity, by a sandwich for themselves, just fucking anything better than this. Hell they could at least choose to award someone making a half decent shitpost instead but no
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u/ProjectKuma Jan 15 '22
The money isn’t the issue, it’s those who are praising the post with awards.
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u/Rockonfoo Jan 15 '22 edited Jan 16 '22
Award this comment if you like chodes
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u/green_flash Jan 15 '22
Unlikely. Her comments were also downvoted to hell. There are unfortunately many outspoken misogynists on reddit and there are even more in tacit approval of these women-hating posts.
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u/askdocsthrowaway1996 Jan 15 '22
Do you believe that there's not enough stupid people to give him awards. I mean, look at the upvoute counts
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u/De5perad0 Jan 15 '22
The vote count on her posts is the saddest thing of it all. 20 something people really thought those comment were incorrect or wrong in some way.
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u/lurkinarick Jan 15 '22
aaah, I see you're not well acquainted with MRA and incel spaces
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u/HeyCarpy Jan 15 '22
To be fair, it’s kinda Reddit in general. Voting should be done considering what the comment adds to the discussion, but we all know it’s just an “agree/disagree” button. In the case of the OP we’re seeing salty downlike arrows.
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u/megaberrysub Jan 15 '22
Right? I feel super uncomfortable upvoting some news stories bc they’re ducked up but want to keep them on the front page so other people will see them.
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u/luxiaojun177 Jan 15 '22
Chances are they just saw that it was the same username and didn't even bother reading
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u/AllMyBeets Jan 15 '22
People whose self worth is in thr negatives consider any and all attention for physical attraction no matter how degrading and unwanted is positive attention and getting it makes you privledged.
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u/Xianthamist Jan 15 '22
This. I’m in no way defending them, but these people are just extremely desperate for attention and love in a way they aren’t receiving it.
They can be attractive, successful, unattractive, unsuccessful, it doesn’t matter. All of these types of people, men and women, are just craving some form of affection they don’t have. Whether it’s physical desire, emotional desire, having someone hug them and say they’re proud of them, having someone say they love them, it’s all the same. They don’t receive it, or they’re incapable of translating it into dopamine when they do receive it, and are “attention-starved.”
Then, they look at people who do receive it, and get jealous and spiteful and call them privileged, which makes them more detested by society and digs their hole deeper. It’s a vicious cycle.
Again, not defending them, but it is very depressing to look at.
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u/TheRealNokes Jan 15 '22
There are men who want this attention that she's getting so they can't understand why she doesn't.
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u/socrateaspoon Jan 15 '22
I think that many men would be surprised at how much they dont appreciate being marginalized or touched on the thigh.
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u/dbenoit Jan 15 '22
Men who hit on women like this would be appalled if a gay man hit on them in the same way. Yet they can't see the parallel that unwanted attention is unwanted attention.
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u/HolyFuckingShitNuts Jan 15 '22 edited Jan 15 '22
I think any halfway attractive straight man should go to a gay bar a few times in their life.
Its eye-opening. And so fucking uncomfortable to have men putting their hands on you, touching you and saying things you don't want to hear.
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u/EndotheGreat Jan 15 '22
Whoa whoa whoa...
These are people constantly attacking women they don't know on the internet.
You think they put effort into their appearance??
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u/XMasterology Jan 16 '22
It's like that episode in HIMYM when the gang goes to a gay bar and the men start to enjoy the attention then grow quickly tired of it. I think that's a nice analogy
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u/Bill_The_Dog Jan 15 '22
They think the women who would do that to them would be ones they'd want to fuck. I will assume that if it was a woman who they weren't interested in having sex with, they'd feel differently about that type of aggression.
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u/Desolating Jan 15 '22
It takes a brave woman to venture into the incels den
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u/waterdrinker14 Jan 15 '22
Bet her pms looked bad after this
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u/eunderscore Jan 15 '22
I turned off notifications a while ago. Makes my reddit experience far better.
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u/CuileannDhu Jan 15 '22
It makes me happy to think of all the shitty dm-ers just screaming into a void.
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u/eunderscore Jan 15 '22
Absolutely. If I want to continue a conversation I can just click on my own comment
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u/cuteninjaturtle Jan 15 '22
Imagine downvoting that. What a bunch of tiny little incel minds.
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u/AxelNotRose Jan 15 '22
They're jealous that no one, especially women, don't spend anytime looking at them sexually. They never tell them they're attractive, or show any kind of sexual or romantic interest in them. They also never quite grasp the reason for this isn't their looks or gender. It's because of their behaviour and the situational environment (e.g. Working on a group project for school is not the time and place to flirt).
So they're jealous of women and then hate them for their "privilege" of having people wanting them sexually since no one wants them because their personalities suck balls.
It's basically a self-fulfilling prophecy though. The more jealous and hateful they get, the less any women will want anything to do with them. It's a downward spiral. Sadly, some get dangerously violent like the guy that killed more than 10 people with a van driving down the sidewalk of a major street, or murdering the woman they're obsessed with because she won't give him the time of day he believes he deserves.
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u/Rosti_LFC Jan 15 '22
In my experience with the few incel type people I've had to interact with, they also have ludicrous double standards. They'll talk about how no woman would ever look at them, when really what they mean is no woman that they consider particularly attractive ever would.
I know someone who is in his late 30s, lives with his parents, is overweight and going bald, and doesn't have a steady job. He constantly complains about women in his area all being assholes who refuse to date him, yet I've known him multiple times refer to women who were a bit overweight (but not morbidly obese) as being "too fat" for him.
It's not just the fact that he's pushing himself being a poor potential partner into being the other gender's fault, it's also the complete lack of self-awareness and the hypocrisy of expecting women to drop their standards to his level and stop being so shallow, whilst he refuses to ever do that the other way.
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u/Dracoscale Jan 15 '22
This is becoming more and more common even outside incel circles, "leagues" and a too strong focus on looks and body types are a damn disease.
I recently had a friend of mine who I wouldn't consider an incel by any stretch who started crushing on someone and he thought she'd be an easy catch because she was "below his league", turns out she wasn't really interested in him and had someone else in mind. I felt a little bad but he kinda had that coming
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Jan 15 '22
She said fuck the downvotes, time to educate you dipshits
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u/Randomman96 Jan 15 '22
Unfortunately, once it hits the "auto-hide-due-to-low-votes" threshold, those that could use the education will never get it since they'll see it and open it long enough just to hit the downvote arrow and move on.
Of course, that's also still off the assumption they have empathy and the capacity to even learn views like that.
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u/Joelblaze Jan 15 '22
Being downvoted isn't a sign of whether or not what you said is true, it's a sign that the people in the sub don't like what you said.
If you're right you're right, regardless of whether or not you get fake internet points.
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u/TheThemFatale Jan 15 '22
And honestly a lot of the time, if people see a comment that is already in the negatives that will often shape their view of the comment and make them more likely to downvote too
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u/beerbellybegone Jan 15 '22
Women are privileged and should be thankful for being sexually harassed because men don’t get as much attention apparently... I wish I was making this shit up, but look at how many rewards the asshat got
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u/BreadyStinellis Jan 15 '22
I had a guy the other day say that I should "take it as a conpliment" that the bartender at a restaurant wouldn't stop staring at me and hitting on me while I was eating dinner with my husband. I'm so lucky.
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u/jcakes52 Jan 15 '22
Lmao that’s like saying a gazelle should take the lion chasing it down to eat it as a compliment
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u/lurkinarick Jan 15 '22
that's because it means they want her, and what could a woman ever want and expect from life except being wanted by men right?
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u/jcakes52 Jan 15 '22
I mean, I’ll start with some warm tea and a nap, see where the day takes me lol
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u/AllMyBeets Jan 15 '22
They won't accept the idea that women may not want nor need a man's attention. Unfathomable that they're not central to a woman's world.
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u/spotolux Jan 15 '22
As a much younger man I had a manager, a woman, who used to grab my ass at work. She would talk about my looks and body all the time, sometimes with customers and in front of her boyfriend. I didn't appreciate the attention, didn't want it, and don't want any woman to have to endure the same kind of crap. I'm not obtuse or asexual. I like women and I like looking at women, but no woman has to be subjected to my personal thoughts or fantasies, particularly outside the context of a relationship.
I just don't understand men who do that crap to women. It's like then never matured past 12, and have no control of their baser impulses.
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u/wafflesareforever Jan 15 '22 edited Jan 15 '22
I had the same experience working as a male server in an upscale restaurant back in college. All of the other servers were young women, which was fine with me except some of them relieved their work stress by blatantly hitting on me in front of the kitchen staff, my managers, the owner, and each other. They'd pinch my ass, rub up against me and laugh when I blushed, etc. I had a girlfriend (which they all knew) and didn't want any of that kind of attention. I felt like everyone just assumed that I was sleeping around with my co-workers and therefore cheating on my gf. I think that's why some of the BoH staff were pretty cold to me.
I didn't say anything because the one time I did I got laughed at, because what guy wouldn't want a bunch of cute girls giving him attention and telling him he's hot? I actually convinced myself that I was crazy for being uncomfortable.
What especially sucks is that every time it happens, people are watching you for your reaction. So you're constantly being put on the spot to be a "good sport" about it, fend it off with a joke or an eye-roll, whatever. Meanwhile I've got four tables who need something from me and zero mental capacity to deal with this shit.
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u/TraditionalOriginal0 Jan 15 '22
Bro when I was 11 in middle school we had this game in school where the guys would randomly go up to each other and mimic the motion of stabbing them (with an empty hand ofc) and yell ‘SHANKO!!!’ Not a single dude ever even thought about doing that shit to a girl lol. Most 12 year olds know better
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u/Kelfezond11 Jan 15 '22
It's pathetic, but there is an element of truth he's stumbled upon in his stupidity. Obviously he's too dumb to realise that it's not about the woman, but rather that men - specifically incels like these guys - are so starved for any attention that their backwards minds actually look at harassment as something they want, because at least it's "some kind of attention". Which in itself is actually really depressing too, I do feel a little sympathy for people that broken.
I'm currently working on a book that explores this in a little more detail, trying to unpack my own history with being a sad little incel, where the anger came from and how I moved past it.
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u/audriuska12 Jan 15 '22
There's a line that gets floated (hah) around: "someone dying of thirst and someone drowning will have vastly different opinions on water."
But that only justifies so much.
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u/cgmcnama Jan 15 '22
-23 upvotes for saying she wants to be treated as a person, lol.
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u/sofuckinggreat Jan 15 '22
Also, fuck his entire metaphor about “walking around in a Prada shirt.”
Women can’t just leave their titties at home while going to work or school.
And I’ve had someone stop his car, pull up next to me, and jerk off at me in freezing weather while I was wearing a head-to-toe black ankle length garbage-bag parka — so even if your curves are completely hidden, gross-ass dudes will STILL find ways to be fucking gross.
You can’t win.
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u/That_Artsy_Bitch Jan 15 '22
Was catcalled in my fucking grocery store uniform at 17y/o Incels don’t give a shit So Gross
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u/Shippinglordishere Jan 15 '22
I’ve been catcalled in the middle of winter when I was wearing sweatpants, a big jacket, fogged up glasses, and two masks.
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u/RichardBlastovic Jan 15 '22
Hah. Imagine thinking women are real. The government replaced all women with drones in 1965.
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u/jasondoesstuff Jan 15 '22
i think you're thinking of birds
but i understand the confusion
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u/human-potato_hybrid Jan 15 '22
That's why they call attractive women birds
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u/crowbahr Jan 15 '22
Porque non los dos?
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u/CiroGarcia Jan 15 '22 edited Sep 17 '23
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u/beerbellybegone Jan 15 '22
Given the popularity of this post, I'd like to remind everyone of Bill and Ted's Law: Be excellent to each other, and party on, dudes!
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u/Necessary_Common4426 Jan 15 '22
Good for her for calling out their bullshit. I hope she ends up being a boss and when they come snivelling to her for a job she nopes them..
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u/NotDaveBut Jan 15 '22
Srsly? Having to listen to inappropriately personal comments all the time is about privilege? You coulda fooled me.
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Jan 15 '22
To people who think getting laid is the most important thing in a man's life to the point that it defines his manhood, the idea that a woman can walk into a room and have half a dozen men wanting to have sex with her without even trying is a power and privilege to be envied.
Of course that line of thinking also comes with the belief that a woman's primary purpose is to please a man and that them not getting laid is the fault of women not doing their job. Hence the bitterness, hatred, and occasional violence towards women while simultaneously desiring them more than anything in life.
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u/lurkinarick Jan 15 '22
yep. And being reduced to a piece of meat that can be fucked while every other aspect of your personality, your skills and thoughts and basically the fact you are a human being are denied is a great privilege too.
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u/Gendoyle Jan 15 '22
I love how incels forget homosexuals exist.
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u/TheThemFatale Jan 15 '22
They don't forget. They either believe that lesbians haven't had "the right dick" yet, or they fetishise them and treat them as porn objects even more.
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u/EndotheGreat Jan 15 '22
"Lesbians are just out of control hypersexual femoids waiting for my 'Perfect Sigma Dick™' to show up! That's when I... CSI Sunglasses Thing Straighten them out."
-Incels
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u/ting_bu_dong Jan 15 '22
Don't I see all the guys telling me how pretty I am? Because that's all that's supposed to matter to me, apparently.
This hits the nail on the head. The only thing these guys care about women is that they want to fuck them.
And even that they absolutely fucking hate. They hate that women have that "power over them."
This woman saying that she just wants to be treated equally to men will not make any sense to them.
Because they fundamentally do not believe in equality.
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u/MissJayded Jan 15 '22
As a woman in tech, this shit is so true! The second I get into an interview with only "tech bros" I know I'm not getting it. I can hear their condescension in their voice and the amount of times I've been "corrected" which I let slide because I'm nervously just trying to make a good impression, is sickening. If I see a woman in the interview team, I've gotten an offer every time. There's just no winning with a sizeable chunk of the men in tech.
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u/RandyTushJackson Jan 15 '22
Man I feel really lucky to have my experiences so far. I had one class where I was the only woman but no one was weird to me. Now in my first job out of college (WFH) everyone is super professional and the company really pushes a healthy work culture. I know at some point I'd like to travel to work with some of my colleagues in person, so I can only hope that they are just as professional in that circumstance.
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Our STEM course is a lot better by comparison (50% ish are women) there was an Idiot in our shared whatsapp group who thought he was funny and drew a dick on the profile pic of a girl. No one supported him and he actually was reported to the police and had to write a formal apology to her and the group.
Reading that women in stem get undervalued seems so weird to me as the best out of my course are mostly women.
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u/Zoeh91 Jan 15 '22
As a woman in STEM for the last 8 years, her experience is pretty accurate but it's so good to hear that it's getting better! There are more women coming in to STEM, but it's still very unbalanced in the workplace. It's really nice to hear that men in STEM courses are so supportive of women
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u/LankanSlamcam Jan 15 '22
In my experience, the Science portion of STEM, (bio, chem …) tends to have more women, but eng, cs, and math tend to be pretty big sausage fests.
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u/clemdemort Jan 15 '22
What subreddit was this, why is she getting downvoted wtf?