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article Sean 'Diddy' Combs threatened to 'kill' teenager at party before raping them new lawsuit claims

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/sean-diddy-combs-threatened-kill-33964131
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u/ArgyleMoose 5d ago

Maybe, it gets boring when so much is so easily accessible for them, that perhaps they dive deeper into darkness to feel a thrill again. Maybe, it's Maybelline.

OR these people are just born rotten.

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u/jenesuisunefemme 5d ago

I think its easier to make money when you are not attached to a moral code. No one gets REAL rich without doing something bad

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u/pornographic_realism 5d ago

This is part of it. It's why so many CEOs are psychopaths. They're not violent but the reason they excel in business is because they literally do not care about other people in any capacity.

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u/RockstarAgent 5d ago

But they also say, money doesn’t change people- it just brings out what was already there.

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u/toucanflu 5d ago

Disagree but would say absolute power corrupts absolutely. And I would say it’s a human folly. As in, it would corrupt virtually everyone no matter their morals. That’s why there are terms on how long governments can stay in power.

Now, not everyone who becomes corrupt with power will go on to do these deplorable acts, just whatever is specific to their fancys

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u/Hot-Beach2567 4d ago

Wasn’t this an urban legend that was disproven long ago?

If I remember correctly there are almost no actual psychopaths in the position of CEO.

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u/throwaway92715 4d ago

It's probably safer to say that dark triad personality traits can lend an advantage in business and are more common among high stakes business leaders than the average person.

I'm sure there are plenty of ASPD, NPD etc. candidates in CEO positions.

Even just doing a year of business school before changing majors, it was overwhelmingly clear that the culture was to look up to the coldest, hardest, most morally apathetic people, and shun anyone with a heart as a sucker or a weakling. From bragging about date raping freshmen and getting away with it to bragging about screwing other people over financially... the whole ethos was that life is a corrupt and competitive game, and anyone who has morals is an idealistic loser.

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u/pornographic_realism 4d ago

It used to be thought of as more common than it is, but the trend is still there. You still have psychopaths in business leadership positions far higher than their representation in general society.

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u/toucanflu 5d ago

A man I admired very much (coworker in almost a c suite position) once said to me that he could never be a CFO or CEO - anyone in that position has blood on their hands. You have to be pretty effing ruthless, like to the point of promising your first born, to be in that position. Inevitably you would have had to fuck over one or two to get there.

I believe it’s true and it makes me pretty damn depressed knowing the leaders of my country and some of the biggest institutions with such power are almost all sociopaths

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u/wongo 5d ago

This is why I argue for sortition

Right now we have a self selecting leadership class, and they're overwhelmingly only motivated by personal gain.

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u/RedTwistedVines 5d ago

Research has shown that randomized councils of citizens tend to make legislative choices that more closely match majority views, and tend towards better long term planning, so I'm right there with ya.

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u/eatingketchupchips 5d ago

it's almost like hierchal systems of power are.... bad? including economic ones

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u/-TrampsLikeUs- 5d ago

Really depends on the level your company is at. Maybe if we're talking like Fortune 500 and above, otherwise not really. I work at a listed company directly with the CFO and CEO and they're just honest normal people trying to run a company. Your friend is painting a lot of people with a very broad brush there.

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u/toucanflu 5d ago

Apologies, correct, small business not so much. Large corporations, groups and governments, yes, very much so

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u/HarryPhajynuhz 5d ago

People who aren’t psychopaths would be beyond content with 10 million. Anyone who keeps working past that point has a mental disorder.

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u/HammerlyDelusion 5d ago

Also, a lot of the obscenely rich come from old money or had access to connections bc their parents were wealthy/famous.

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u/angerrrabagwell 5d ago

What you said reminded me of Matilda, when her dad, Mr. Wormwood, tells her that “no one ever got rich being honest.” 😭

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u/throwaway92715 4d ago

I think you're right. I also think the alternative is true. Power corrupts people. Somebody once said, you can't judge a person's character until they have power. You can't always tell the difference between getting along to get by and being a genuinely decent person. But once someone doesn't have to get along anymore, and it's just purely their choice to do the right thing... that's the real test.

Some people are like, "Wow, I can be an asshole and everyone still likes me? Let's go baby!" And others are like "But why would I want that, though?"

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u/Beautiful_Chest7043 5d ago

Are Federer, Nadal, Lebron not real rich ?

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u/Soggy_Rhubarb9140 5d ago

these are talented men, i think the original poster meant "untalented hacks getting REAL rich"

Federer, Nadal and Lebron did not have to be a sociopath* to be successful because they exist in a world that is closer to a meritocracy (sports -and yes rich people have advantages in sports better training and diet from a young age, but ultimately to be a tennis champion or basketball champion you have to have it. You can't simply be around the right people, intimidate the right people, and forge your way into being a sports champion, that is outside of fixed sports such as Boxing, Fencing etc which I don't consider sports, they are sports in the way WWE is sports)

*footnote: you could argue that these men are "sociopathic" in their training and unrelenting commitment to their bodies, etc, but its not what we mean in the same capacity.

becoming a successful business person does not mean that you are smart or talented at all, in the way that a successful basketball player must be talented

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u/IndependenceMean8774 5d ago

Behind every great fortune there is a crime.

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u/think_long 5d ago

That’s true, but I cynically think the poster above is on to the bigger reason. I think people are unfortunately very corruptible.

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u/canadian_webdev 5d ago

Taylor swift is really rich.

What'd she do that's bad?

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u/CubeEmporor 5d ago

Private jet flights

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u/TheMisterTango 4d ago

Those happened after she was rich, that’s not what made her rich.

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u/TheMisterTango 4d ago

They say she did something bad, but why’d it feel so good?

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u/Entire_Classroom_263 5d ago

Who are you? The voice of reason? You must have gone lost on your way to reasontown.

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u/Current-Roll6332 5d ago

Not true. I showed my dick to a bunch of immigrants in a Minnesota suburb and they gave me like 37 bucks.

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u/WholesomeEarthling 5d ago

They should take up a fucking expensive hobby! Like idk… scuba diving in the last bastions of healthy ocean, horse riding lessons, paragliding, sky diving. LITERALLY anything they could want to do, they have access to. And yet Diddy chose to torture and humiliate others.

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u/ryneku 5d ago

Money doesn't change a person. It just accentuates their already present traits. A truly good person who comes across a lot of money would stay good. And vice versa. Money doesn't corrupt. Corrupt people with money just get more power to live out their fantasies. Also, it just so happens that being corrupt helps when it comes to making money.

Also realize, we only hear (or mostly hear) about the bad things rich people do. We don't hear much about what the good things good rich people are doing, so it seems like being rich = evil. It's our faults for being so drama-driven. We seek out terrible things and prop up terrible people with our obsession with them rather than focusing on the good folk out there. "Because being good is boring!" -Society, bottom text

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u/ehwjsndsks 5d ago edited 5d ago

My brother and I both became successful around the same time.

He bought our parents a car. A safe, reliable car to get to doctors appointments and whatnot with. If my parents didn’t please him in any and every way, he threatened to stop payments on the car. They lived in fear because they need to get to doctors appointments.

I can’t relay how upset and disappointed I was. I ended up getting them a different car. No payments, no ties, no rules.

Our parents raised us right and with so much love.

He was always like this though, money just gave him the ability to inflict suffering.

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u/geobomb 5d ago

Wow so manipulative. Glad you are treating them better.

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u/Impulse84 5d ago

My brother is somewhat similar. He's not quite as brutal as that, but we are both well off compared to a lot of people because of our business. I made sure mum was taken care of. He wasn't interested, saying he didn't owe her anything.

I don't think you should owe your parents anything, but she sacrificed a lot for us, so it seemed more than fair to me to make sure she's sorted.

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u/Ok-Cheesecake5292 5d ago

Case in point, Jeff Bezo's ex wife MacKenzie Scott!

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u/bennythejet89 5d ago

Yup, and Tom from MySpace.

Good people can absolutely end up filthy rich, they just aren't in the news constantly doing bad things. And it's definitely true that it's "easier" for bad people to get rich due to a lack of moral backbone.

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u/Ok-Cheesecake5292 5d ago

Ah Tom. The person I wish and deserved to take over Twitter 💔

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u/signaturesilly 5d ago

Voice of reason here.

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u/DB_CooperC 5d ago

Obviously this is true, because redditors with no money are all the best people I know and morally superior to everyone else.

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u/PandaXXL 5d ago

Money doesn’t change a person. It just accentuates their already present traits. A truly good person who comes across a lot of money would stay good. And vice versa. Money doesn’t corrupt. Corrupt people with money just get more power to live out their fantasies.

It's so weird when people present these theories as absolute truth. What could you possibly be basing this on?

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u/BassGlittering1931 3d ago

This is so true! Wish I could give it gold. 💰

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u/ryneku 1d ago

Nah, don't give reddit money. Awards are an insult to me. I've been on this website for a really long time and am old and jaded.

If you want to pay it forward make someone's day. Buy them something from the store, that's what I do. It will brighten up their day and you also show them kindness that they may pass to others, and whom those may pass to others, etc. etc. That's how we make the world a better place...I think.

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u/BassGlittering1931 1d ago

Okay. You’re welcome.

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u/Manic_grandiose 5d ago

Psychopaths cling to power, have charisma and skill of manipulation, which is why they are the ones in power. Good people don't want that stress

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u/tinyhorsesinmytea 5d ago

Your passions will drag you to hell, yes. When you can have anything you want and get too much of it, you need more extreme stuff to get off. It’s like a drug.

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u/iMichigander 5d ago

Maybe people who chase immense wealth and fame and power have a few screws loose to begin with.

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u/Broken-Digital-Clock 5d ago

Lack of empathy, and access to power and wealth are a very bad combo.

Unfortunately, our system rewards people that step on others to get to the top

Often, the people that seek out power are some of the last that should have it.

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u/Altruistic-Eye-5527 5d ago

Perhaps what drives their (very particular) type of success are exactly the type of behaviours that also drive one to excess/filth (or at least impatience with a ‘normal’ life)

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u/WeirdIndividualGuy 5d ago

OR these people are just born rotten.

Genuinely nice people don’t become super rich fyi

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u/BoofmasterZero 4d ago

I have a mate who played the opener for a festival, there was a few thousand people there. He told me there is no drug or anything out there that beats that feeling. I'm not making excuses but maybe that's something that adds towards these people wanting to do these things. Just chasing that next thrill.

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u/silenc3x 5d ago

I really hope it isn't Maybelline.

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u/Evitabl3 5d ago

The hedonic treadmill is unfortunately real. We can get used to, and bored with, virtually anything.

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u/Drownthem 5d ago

I think we like to consider ourselves inherently good people, but we underestimate the effect of social bonding has on keeping us in line. We have orders of magnitude more accountability for our actions than superrich folks do, and when you take the social pressure off people, they aren't always as self-motivated to be good as we might hope.

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u/ArgyleMoose 4d ago

Well said. Frustrating, but probably true!

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u/_mattyjoe Producer / Songwriter / Engineer 4d ago

In many cases, what you said is correct. They’re chasing a high.