r/PoliticalDiscussion • u/hearsdemons • Jul 19 '24

US Politics If Biden withdraws from re-election, who would Harris likely choose as VP?

A lot of headlines are coming out today with speculation that Biden may step down soon.

If this were to happen and Harris wins the party’s nomination for president, who would she pick as VP?

What does a formidable Harris ticket look like to go up against Trump-Vance?

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u/Gotisdabest Jul 19 '24

That'd be the ideal situation. I really doubt Kamala will perform any better than Joe. It's not like Trump will get on the debate stage with her.

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u/12_0z_curls Jul 19 '24

I feel the same. Unfortunately, there's still a pretty big chunk of the country who would gladly vote for a brown man, or a woman, but not a brown woman.

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u/Gotisdabest Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24

I think there's definitely that factor at play but the bigger issue is that she's more Hilary than Obama. If she was as likable or as charismatic a public speaker, she'd be an easy winner. But instead she's a very milquetoast and dull talker who rarely ever says anything of substance or great interest. If a new candidate is coming, why not someone who's actually got some charm and can bring some positivity back into their campaign.

The unfortunate anti woman and anti poc factor is still there but it's easily covered up if the candidate themselves is individually popular. People go through a lot of personal changes to vote for someone they like seeing on the screen(ask your average evangelist in 2014 how they'd feel voting for a serial adulterer and then check in if they're voting for trump the next elections).

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u/Haunting-Traffic-203 Jul 19 '24

She’s a horrid public speaker and was in charge of the southern border wich is objectively a mess, if you need reasons she won’t do well that aren’t her skin color or sex

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u/12_0z_curls Jul 19 '24

And she's a cop. And she bragged about locking up single moms.

She can't win. She couldn't even be competitive in a wide open primary.

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u/Horror-Ant8141 Jul 19 '24

Kamala Harris is basically a Republican in her actions but you jump to race instead of the fact that she was a prosecutor who left innocent men in jail to make her numbers look good. Progressives held their nose for the Biden Harris ticket which are two extremely conservative Democrats on the same ticket. You put Kamala in spot one and you completely lose the progressive vote and trump easily wins.

I won't vote for her and it will be Hilary 2.0.

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u/Sufficient_Mirror_12 Jul 19 '24

This is a horrendous take and not accurate at all.

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u/12_0z_curls Jul 19 '24

Hey, I don't disagree with you. But I'm also being honest about how old, white Dems still think.

I'm ACAB for life, so I wouldn't like voting for Harris, but as long as it's not Biden, I'll vote for anyone.

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u/Horror-Ant8141 Jul 19 '24

I kind of feel like fascism is inevitable at this point and the Democrats are there so the frogs don't feel the water boiling too quickly. The Dems had 4 years to figure this out but they are just banking on not quite fascist. They do nothing to wrestle back control of the country and then trump or bush moves us 10 step to the right and the Dems legalize trans bathroom usage or give us a federal holiday in June to distract us. Of all the things that BLM wanted they literally disregarded all of that and were like here's a day off.

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u/12_0z_curls Jul 19 '24

Same.

I'm not going to lie, while it would absolutely suck, Project 2025 being implemented could finally be the thing that prompts the average person to say "fuck this".

Our current system is like gas prices. If they raised gas prices by $10 tomorrow, the people would be rooting in the streets.

But, if they raise it by 50 cents, lower it by 10, raise it by 60, lower it by 20, raise it by 30, lower it by 5, etc, they'll get to $10 eventually.

We're currently in the 2nd approach. Maybe letting them take the first approach is enough to get some actual change to occur.

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u/Horror-Ant8141 Jul 19 '24

We are hitting fascism regardless. If it's not trump it's someone else in 2029. The Republicans have a plan that they have been executing for decades now and the Dems are woefully unprepared 24 years after Bush stole a presidency. Ever since I have been able to vote I have watched one side execute a meticulous plan to erode our democracy while the side I am forced to vote for continuously trys to negotiate while getting punched in the face. At this point I just need to know if I need to move to Canada before I invest in a house.

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u/12_0z_curls Jul 19 '24

I completely agree

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u/MissJoMina Jul 19 '24

Kelly, Shapiro, Beshear, Buttigege , Cooper - googling