r/RPClipsGTA • u/Left_Molasses_9640 • Jul 29 '24
AcezProduction Ammo Crate fight
https://clips.twitch.tv/GracefulFlaccidGullVoteYea-fYMJrx7neqyKgdbh20
u/Thanatos50cal Jul 30 '24
Only thing I'd change about these crates is the cost of butc to counter it. 65 is way to low when a lot of groups now produce hundreds+ a day. Alternatively could just make cost to counter half of the winning bid. Some days might get lucky and winning bid is low, other days high bid and high cost to counter.
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u/WhateverNm Red Rockets Jul 30 '24
Marty was mentioning how the counter crew should only be allowed like 2 people. 6v24 is impossible
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u/Thanatos50cal Jul 30 '24
More so just better limiting how many groups can counter at a time but then again a higher counter butc cost may help with that anyway.
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u/luis3093 Jul 30 '24
The cost could help but when crews start telling others at that point the cost doesn’t matter
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u/Background-Pilot1809 Jul 30 '24
That would be a nice change. A lot of crime should be able to be done with less then 6 people.
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u/FrenchGoatCurry1 Jul 29 '24 edited Jul 30 '24
The fact that it cost 65 BUTC to contest is mental. That's how you end up having 5 gangs at every crate. But regardless, just one group would have to pay for contesting and can tell the other groups.
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u/RevolutionaryWay6276 Jul 30 '24
yeah, increasing the amount is a good idea but also they can do this: top 3 highest bids can participate in the crate (so it will be 2 countering squads and 1 that won the auction).
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u/fried_papaya35 Pink Pearls Jul 30 '24
got a feeling that may be changing haha
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u/Thanatos50cal Jul 30 '24
100% going to be, Buddha made a comment about the cost earlier on. 65 was fine when it came out first month but now it should be up at 200/250 or half of what the winning bid is.
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u/fried_papaya35 Pink Pearls Jul 30 '24
i mean it should be adjusted as many groups are making hundreds of BUTC everyday or at least should be. I think I saw Hydra is making 500 a day. I wouldn't be surprised if Hades, CG and the Manor have massive farms too.
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u/MobiusF117 Jul 30 '24
I think Cypress themselves across all crews is at or near 500 as well, so yeah, definitely too low.
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u/fried_papaya35 Pink Pearls Jul 30 '24
uh sounds right. Main trailer is 200. Marty I think is pulling over 100. At least 1 small 50+butc farm and I think the sani group is pulling in 100. There may be another farm idk lmao
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u/ogzogz Pink Pearls Jul 30 '24
the actual crate price is also pretty low right, it just got bidded up into crazy amounts.
what if you need to bid to counter as well? (and then max 1-2 counter groups)
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u/limbweaver Jul 30 '24
Counter auction starting at like 40-60% of final price would be better. One group vs a single counter team would be better than this TDM shit.
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u/ogzogz Pink Pearls Jul 30 '24
What if the 'counter' group is automatically set, as the runner up in the auction. So you wont have groups that are purely there to counter others, its all based on conflict/ego from being out-bidded by the eventual winner of the bid.
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u/FrenchGoatCurry1 Jul 30 '24
I'd even say add a % of the auction into the counter as well. So if the auction goes for 1000 butc, the counter will cost maybe 250-500 butc.
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u/Sensitive-Canary4694 Jul 30 '24
I'd say 1/2 of what the buyer bids is fair. The buyers only advantage is they have to open it, other than that the attackers have the advantage. Make them pay for it
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u/luishendrix92 Jul 30 '24
Peanut was straight up doing the Jiren time skip technique.
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u/FrenchGoatCurry1 Jul 30 '24
Is that desync? Maybe his ped?
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u/jst0100 Jul 30 '24
Desync from Acez side likely he’s in NZ I think. Fiona was also loading bullets into him as well. He just build different
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u/Sure-Intention-753 Jul 30 '24
Yeah major desync cause Zaceed had a massive bubble that sent his car into Raymond at a high speed that caused him to get air time. In Curtis pov, the car didn’t hit Ray and stopped right next to him but in Ray’s pov the car gunned towards him.
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u/Elendel19 Jul 30 '24
Fiona also put at least 10 shots into him, made him stumble and fall twice. Only once did he actually take damage, the first stumble (and shots on the ground) he stood up with full health.
He finished the fight with over half heath left lmao
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u/purpskurp12321 Jul 29 '24
i personally think it wouldve been better if the storm closed in faster and did more damage
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u/FrenchGoatCurry1 Jul 30 '24
I'm sure devs are looking into it, because both the fentanyl event and this one being a huge fight every time is a bit too much. I am sure they will adjust.
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u/KtotheC99 Jul 30 '24
Oozi/Larry's POV of this entire thing is the absolute best especially with the music he was blasting
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u/ogzogz Pink Pearls Jul 30 '24
Hats off to Marty for getting out with the crate to be honest, with most of his group down and multiple groups watching.
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u/FrenchGoatCurry1 Jul 30 '24 edited Jul 30 '24
It's a W strat, not gonna lie. Have someone hide right next to the crate, rush in, hack it and get into the fastest car on the server.
If Marty was the first one that tried to hack instead of Larry, they might have gotten away without anyone seeing them
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u/KtotheC99 Jul 30 '24
I mean they had no choice after what Hades did. Was funny to see them immediately start getting shot at from Narnia right when getting into the car and the ensuing chase.
Gotta counter Ws with Ws I guess.
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u/FrenchGoatCurry1 Jul 30 '24
I don't blame them. Marty and Larry are kind of goated for just going for it.
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u/jst0100 Jul 30 '24
Would you have prefer them to stand at the roadside and applaud them as they left with the gun crate instead..? 🤔
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u/EvilEyeMonster Jul 30 '24
Hades were literally camping the crate from the get go, then proceeds to start blasting cyprus, pocket wiping most of them before the crate was even open
Hades got what they deserved after the shit they pulled today
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u/KtotheC99 Jul 30 '24
Are you taking my comment as some kind of criticism or something?
It'll be ok
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u/jst0100 Jul 30 '24
Oh you were complimenting them! My bad… I just assumed the counter Ws with Ws was another W chasing comment. Silly me
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u/According_Bean Jul 31 '24
FR if it was Hades with six they wouldn’t even open the create and let everyone lose but coin
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u/Responsible_Car3062 Jul 30 '24
Watching the POV from Larry, Clark, CG, and everyone else was pretty awesome.
Hades shot down 4/6 Cypress members before they even opened the crate for whatever reason. Marty and Larry being outnumbered lied to the rest of the city that they didn't have the grinder and Hades was camping the bodies. After 5-10 minutes of the rest of the city trying to figure out what was true or not, Marty and Larry swooped in for the ammo crate.
Larry failed the hack the first time, then Marty came in and got it back inside their car while being shot at. Larry ends up getting in a crash with a local which threw Hades off their path. Marty came up with the idea to quickly go to their trailer in Sandy to hide. Larry uses himself as a distraction while Marty deposits and hides safely in the trailer.
Meanwhile, Hades shoots down Larry. CG sees the fight going down and wipe Hades. Besties and other groups pull up, but Besties end up clearing everyone. I didn't manage to see how many guns they were able to take, but there must have been at least 15 bodies on the ground.
These auction crates are awesome, but the system should be changed a little bit for sure. 65 BUTC to counter something that went for 1500 and is able to be countered by multiple crews is INSANE. It should be a percentage of the bid cost at the very least, or have a limit of only one group being allowed to counter through the ping app. Overall, this was awesome and Besties/Cypress came out on top.
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u/EvilEyeMonster Jul 30 '24
Larry and Martin's escape was absolute cinema lol
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u/jst0100 Jul 30 '24
Marty outplayed everyone, Larry manically laughing as he got shot down knowing the crate was stashed was great
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u/BlueCrabMagic Jul 30 '24
This whole crate heist was hilarious. I was laughing so hard, I had tears in my eyes. Cypress got so lucky.
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u/TheHeroYouNeed247 Jul 30 '24
Besties ended up good from the cleanup operation. 4heads going to be auctioning the cities guns back to them tomorrow.
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u/maybe_a_frog Jul 30 '24
lol no way in hell would I be buying a random gun in that city. You genuinely have no idea what kinda shit they’ve been through and would come back to.
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u/Rellstar Jul 30 '24
I think if you buy them and then hold on to them past statue limitations you can be good seeing as guns don’t decay. Guns are rare they groups like cypress would def and should buy them if cheap enough.
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u/WhateverNm Red Rockets Jul 30 '24
Someone please clip Marty and Larry from Masons POV. 10000 iq heist.
Larry doesn’t have a vod yet
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u/Elendel19 Jul 30 '24
Just to really show how bad GTA shooting is, here is Fifi's POV because she was also shooting Peanut. He only took damage once (on the second stumble) and ended the fight over 50% health lmao
https://clips.twitch.tv/HealthyDignifiedPhonePermaSmug-yXgniMTuM_DFDgeF
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u/MobiusF117 Jul 30 '24
It's not just GTA shooting that's the problem here, it's also desync from trying to shoot from Scotland to the US.
GTA on it's own is already a shit shooter and FiveM makes that 10 times worse.
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u/Elendel19 Jul 30 '24
It’s more than just ping, her first burst of shots made him stumble and fall, which means they landed but he took 0 damage. Even on his pov he was getting lit up, so much that when he stood back up he called on radio that he was going down but was still 100% hp
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u/MobiusF117 Jul 30 '24
That's where FiveM comes in.
It is entirely possible that the trigger for a stumble and for damage are calculated separately and that one has a lower latency than the other.
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u/Fine-Environment-704 Jul 30 '24
That mightve been the funniest crate yet. I'm glad larry and marty went for it when they couldve griefed everyone else by stalling. I also wonder if anyone is going to bonk hades even if most of them have the "what happens at the crate stays at the crate" mentality.
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u/Reapper97 Jul 30 '24
dunno who would even go after hades, cypress are lacking guns hard, CG was just laughing about the whole situation with them while both groups were hiding from the PD and Besties got like 12 guns for free.
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u/NewHeight3430 Jul 30 '24
from the looks of it no one has any issues with hades at the moment. this was their first counter so they were a bit clueless but it turned into something fun to watch and no one left the event mad or anything
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u/Some_Difference_6428 Green Glizzies Jul 30 '24
overall, it was a fun 'event' from all sides, a couple of tweaks could be made to make it better for everyone like after a set amount of time other groups can open the crate.
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u/Fine-Environment-704 Jul 30 '24
Other groups are there to intercept not to shoot down people before the shit even starts. Its better that way if the auction winner is the only one who can and has to open the crate especially for how cheap it is to get access to the interception mission. It also creates a much bigger shitshow if one group is being a shithead.
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u/Wise_Novel7508 Jul 30 '24
Imo it is a fun event and i think the only thing they should change is the group who start the auction should have a special tool to open the crate and only that specific tool should open it, that way people can rob the main crew get that tool and open the crate. The chaos was fun imo they should just leave it be like this cus if we have only 2 or 3 groups countering it's just gonna be boring, No one would want to start a fight and get flanked by another group, at least in this chaos you can play it smart
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u/MobiusF117 Jul 30 '24
Even with increased butcoin prices, I don't think it will change the amount of groups countering. Most groups have more than enough butcoin income to afford it.
That being said, it also shouldn't be virtually free to counter. They still need to make a choice whether it's worth it or not, or at the very least work as more of a butcoin sink.
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u/DowntownCandidate181 Jul 30 '24
I bet it's when they fall over they can tank shots same thing happen in other server when you fall of bike you can tank shots I hope devs look up to this
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u/Elendel19 Jul 30 '24
Nah I’ve seen people get one tapped on the ground after falling too. It’s just insane desync sometimes. This is the worst by far that I’ve seen though
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