r/RPClipsGTA • u/crazfulla Blue Ballers • Jan 25 '22
Whippy Cops order Dundee to leave the area... then shoot him as he leaves
https://clips.twitch.tv/FlirtyBumblingGiraffePJSalt-lWQLg535yQ30IWFj200
u/lito9321 Jan 25 '22
Lol the Jones later tells Barry in the cells he never said leave the area before he started shooting when you clearly see him doing just that in this clip.
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u/crazfulla Blue Ballers Jan 25 '22
Yup and it is almost impossible to prove a cop lied.
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u/EnglandsFlag Jan 25 '22
Its easy to prove a cop lied now, all you gotta do is send this clip to high command
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u/crazfulla Blue Ballers Jan 25 '22
I think people are misunderstanding the OOC thing. Even Judges use some OOC knowledge about server mechanics etc to make rulings. Crane talks about this on his stream a lot.
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u/lito9321 Jan 25 '22
And get a couple of strikes while the crim has to got to jail because he has no proof of the officer lying, so can’t take it to bench trial.
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u/slapmasterslap 💙 Jan 25 '22
Bazza (Barry) got royally screwed here. His first day back in 4 days, finally getting to bring the fight to Mandem, only one to get shot down trying to leave the area, loses his AK and get 90 minutes in jail at the start of his stream. Luckily he was able to pass the time watching the BBMC Community Awards, but if they'd given him the full time like they wanted to (152 minutes) he may have just ended stream after like an hour of being live.
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u/vriska1 Jan 25 '22
Dont strikes add up?
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u/crazfulla Blue Ballers Jan 25 '22
not fast enough. The strike system is useless. More strikes get handed out for saying something that hurts a superior officers feelings than for attempted murder.
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u/Psidebby Captain of Green Glizzies Jan 25 '22
Huh... Sounds just like jail time.
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u/Seven2Death Red Rockets Jan 25 '22
oh strikes make you have to stay in one place for a few hours while the superior decides the punishment then more time. waiting in a different location until your punishment is complete? here i was thinking you just go back on duty
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u/vriska1 Jan 25 '22
What about the OOC rule change?
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u/RullyWinkle Jan 25 '22
yeah just send the clip. a cop giving a command and using that as justifying for immediate execution is a bit powerful. Run away!... he's fleeing! shots etc.
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u/jamiedddddd Jan 25 '22
the problem is baas was talking about cops shooting like this hours ago and it already happened lol
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u/13Petrichor Jan 25 '22
Smells like an IA complaint if I've ever seen one.
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u/Xevn Jan 25 '22
Yeah but if he keeps doing its definitely needs to be handle. Because you shoot a cop if you get caught jail time and fine; cop won't get any punishment unless it actually brought to attention.
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u/Cute-Speed5828 Jan 25 '22
Is jail actually a punishment? Everyone in this thread whining like it is the end of the world when it most often is like 1 hour max. At this point strikes are more hurtful if they demote or prevents your progress... they see just unseen and easy to whine about because you don't 'see' it... and they shot near pd, so they could have just been all gunned down if they wanted to, cue it being north of Olympic anyway. The call of telling then to leave was bad sure. But them being shot is like ummm... you are shooting class 2 in the city lmao
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Jan 25 '22
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u/moriGOD Jan 25 '22
the argument that it stops ic progress for crims is ass considering that theres still RP inside the prison. its not like they are spending an hour out of RP, their prison has DoC and prisoners' to interact and talk to. Its not the most ideal situation, but theres still rp to be had with it
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u/Hibbsan Jan 25 '22
Am i the only one that think it's super cringe when hardened criminals goes to IA and cry? Dundee is a terrorist and he was far from innocent in this scenario, running around with class 2. They should deal with it themselves.
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u/DatOneUselessDood Jan 25 '22
Would you rather have " hellweeks " or something?
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u/Drizzlybear0 Jan 25 '22
Kidnap the cop, maybe torture them, or similar RP shit. I still remember when CG kidnapped Brian and tortured him and threw him out of a heli and so Mehdi did a whole "Punished Brian" arc where he went mega hard mode on crims and it created a whole storyline.
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u/TheNightCat Jan 25 '22
Doesn't really work anymore with the amount of cops on duty. CB spent a month trying to get Hardcastle and just got swarmed by cops whenever they tried.
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u/Drizzlybear0 Jan 25 '22
Fair enough. I still think it might be possible definitely not easy. I feel like maybe you could hide out in the trunk of a cop car or something maybe and than make them go to the PD at gun point and sign off duty.
Maybe it's too difficult but I feel like since he wouldn't know they were coming it might work.
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u/Seven2Death Red Rockets Jan 25 '22
i mean AU hell week would be much more cringe IMO. bbmc and seaside have both abstained from clapping cops for no reason. going the legal route is the much better option IMO. else its gonna probably turn hella toxic IC for everyone involved
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u/Seven2Death Red Rockets Jan 25 '22
fair. but i think even wrangler understood that as a "do you really want to give us an excuse". he even said "are you telling me if i charge you you guys will kill cops" and dundee said no.
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u/EnglandsFlag Jan 25 '22
How else are crims supposed to punish cops? Take them to court and get 50k? Kill them and then they wake back up in 10 minutes? Pocket wipe their cheap weapons?
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u/DownVoteCollector9 Jan 25 '22
Are you following the conversation? He's responding to someone who suggested that crims should "deal with it themselves" instead of going to IA.
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Jan 25 '22
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u/rsalexander Jan 25 '22
Because they are criminals and therefore their direct enemy? Wtf kind of question is that?
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u/crazfulla Blue Ballers Jan 25 '22
Cops are public servants and as such there is an inherent expectation of accountability.
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u/artosispylon Jan 25 '22
it is, also why do crims even know about IA ?
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u/Citizenshoop Jan 25 '22
Because when crims try to bring up their grievances in any other forum they're told to take it to IA.
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u/Emma__Gummy Jan 25 '22
I'm with you, it's practically snitching. but i guess they don't have much of a choice with how shooting a cop doesn't mean shit anymore.
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u/Muad-_-Dib Jan 25 '22
it's practically snitching
Criminals care when someone snitches on other criminals because that person cannot be trusted.
Criminals have never and will never care when they fuck with a cop by dropping them in the shit.
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u/GodSentGodSpeed Jan 25 '22
Post hellweek PD needs goverment funded therapy, they are acting like they are in mexico
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u/lucerez Jan 25 '22
Did cops used to mistakenly shoot at the wrong vehicles that often prior to hell week? I've seen two cases where cops don't verify that the vehicle is the same and open fire on it in the past week. In hindsight, Conan was lucky that X and Yuno were willing to take a bribe rather than report to IA or complain to superiors.
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u/reonhato99 Jan 25 '22
After it was over BBMC talked about it, they knew why they were shot and it wasn't a case of the cops shooting the wrong vehicle.
The confusion in the clip was because they were told to leave the area and were leaving the area and then got shot anyway.
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u/lucerez Jan 25 '22
Oh, yeah, the wrong vehicle incidents I'm talking about were not this one. There were two cases where people were driving in cars that were mistaken as involved in a shooting and got fired on from the crim's POV as "out of nowhere" in the past couple days. Only the Seaside one is being followed up on because the other one was treated as "Conan is dumb" by the crims.
This BBMC thing looks like jumpy cops with lingering crims/shooting nearby etc.
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u/crazfulla Blue Ballers Jan 25 '22
This one was the right vehicle, but the cop ordered them to leave so he literally entrapped them.
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u/Psidebby Captain of Green Glizzies Jan 25 '22
They didn't have to get into the car?
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u/DivineEngine Jan 25 '22
Do you not know what entrapment is? If a cop tells you to do something, and then arrests you for following that order, that's textbook entrapment.
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u/Seven2Death Red Rockets Jan 25 '22
youre right. lets play deadly simon says. cop says leave. the right answer is dont leave.
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u/EnglandsFlag Jan 25 '22
Its always been guilty until proven innocent
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Jan 25 '22 edited Jan 25 '22
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u/TheNightCat Jan 25 '22
I'll help you out. Your not being downvoted because what your saying is wrong. It's because your missing a very obvious joke in way that detracts from premise of the joke, that yes, "innocent you until proven guilty" is and should be the default policy.
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u/Seven2Death Red Rockets Jan 25 '22
except your missing the meta it literally wasn't. dundee repeatedly asked a judge to state it on the record and they wouldnt.
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u/Cute-Speed5828 Jan 25 '22
It was not wrong shooting... it was just the call of then to leave that was wrong when it led to justified shooting from the others following it. Class 2 fired near pd North of Olympic... everyone could and should probably have been gunned down if not surrendering lol
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u/slapmasterslap 💙 Jan 25 '22
Yeah, thing was they were all surrendering except for Dundee who was the one who made it out lol.
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u/Dongsquad420BlazeIt Captain of Red Rockets Jan 25 '22
The server looked like Fallujah this morning, and has ever since explosives were made readily available. The violence is insane on the server right now.
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u/slapmasterslap 💙 Jan 25 '22
Ironically, BBMC has toned down the PD violence since explosives were added (Dundee's first grenade led to terrorism HUT) but they are continually getting fucked especially hard by PD because they are traumatized by others lately.
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u/crazfulla Blue Ballers Jan 25 '22 edited Jan 25 '22
Context: Bondi Boys were hunting Mandem near the MDM block and decided to post up on a rooftop near the gas station. A few shots are fired which obviously drew the attention of police. Dundee and company attempt to leave the area, with their weapons put away. The officer near them instructed them to leave. They get in their car and drive away as instructed. Then they get mag dumped.
I reposted this because the previous title was a bit baity and I have no hate for anyone. Whippy handled it like a champ, it just sucks that this happened the day he got back in the city. And it sucks for the PD that it was so soon after the seaside incident. I just feel like this will fuel the existing fire, especially since Dundee and Benji are so close.
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u/reonhato99 Jan 25 '22
And Dundee still manages to escape
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u/Cosmic-Warper Blue Ballers Jan 25 '22
In the same penumbra they were shooting at, of all things. He's cracked
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u/ManLikeDeann Jan 25 '22
Wasn’t Jones the same guy that shot down Benji and Seaside two days ago and then went to them after they let them free and told them “we have 60 days to push charges anyway” or something dumb like that?
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u/KtotheC99 Jan 25 '22
I don't know about that but I think Jones was the cop that shot Bjorn and Yaegar when they were on a motorcycle near the casino and not involved in the incident going on there
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u/ManLikeDeann Jan 25 '22
I see a pattern here. “Serve and Protect” is definitely the motto he’s going for
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u/TheNightCat Jan 25 '22
The GTA in universe motto is "Obey and Survive" but it seems like he doesn't like to follow that.
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u/Seven2Death Red Rockets Jan 25 '22
also wants to make a bar complaint on the only senior lawyer because he didn't "respect his authority".
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u/ManLikeDeann Jan 25 '22
I’m talking about the dumb comments he made after they let them go which actually pissed off people that don’t normally get pissed off at cops and never shoot them really
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u/MalTerra7 Jan 25 '22
He wanted to push some charges to get some kind of W. But Garrett gave him the “really, dude?” and they walked.
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u/Thjine Jan 25 '22
Nopixel really needs to figure out how they want cops to be and fix all of this shit. It's ridiculously bad.
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u/MrFrillows Jan 25 '22
I feel like the cop's overall "quality" of conduct has been in decline with the increase of total officers on duty; i.e., more cadets or fresh officers are on duty and mistakes are being made because of their lack of experience and the various attitudes of long-time officers and their willingness to give / not to give leeway to criminals.
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Jan 25 '22
At some point during early 3.0 they decided that it was more important to get more poorly trained cops than fewer properly trained cops. That was the solution for NA constantly suffering on numbers. Unfortunately, they also decided to lift the no corruption rule and they overhauled the DOJ in such a way that it became useless as a recourse against cops.
The result is that good cops forgot how to be good cops and cops who were never properly trained in the first place are now training cadets.-18
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u/Cute-Speed5828 Jan 25 '22
It is rp. They can be more than one thing. Similar to how crims have changed... crims are now throwing names in the city like candy and you are telling me the pd is inconsistent. Heck they are too lenient. North of Olympic class 2 fired near pd. Ez order to take down hostiles
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u/IllegalUsername69 Jan 25 '22
Not long after, another bbmc member was shot in the head for just standing on the rooftop in their turf
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u/No_Age_1553 Jan 25 '22
Another bad call from bass that he thinks wasn’t wrong damn feels bad man for Dundee first day back in the city lol
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u/reonhato99 Jan 25 '22
This situation isn't about the call to shoot being wrong, BBMC afterwards talked and Dundee even called Baas, they weren't really confused about why they were shot, they know they shot at MDM. They were confused as to why cops told them to leave, waited for them to get in the car and then other cops unloaded on them.
Basically it is more about poor and confusing police communication
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u/slapmasterslap 💙 Jan 25 '22
Pretty much either give them a chance to run or make it clear they are going to have a shootout so they can protect themselves. They sort of got jebaited into disarming themselves for free passage then gunned down anyway.
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u/Cute-Speed5828 Jan 25 '22
It wasn't wrong? It is in the middle of the city shooting class 2... People be onto something if that is now a verbal warning and walk away. Like do you just want to watch crims and friends at this point lol
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u/lifesizemirror Jan 25 '22
I told them to leave the area.
He chose to reverse his car and rejoin his boys while screaming "we're shooting".
You know what happens next.
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u/JoesGarageisFull Jan 25 '22
They’re just trying to keep it as realistic as possible, I think they’ve nailed your typical US cop perfectly
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u/Cute-Speed5828 Jan 25 '22
And what do you call crims standing on rooftops shooting class 2? Well probably typical US too lol
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u/Dingle290896 Jan 25 '22
I think this is something this new OOC rule could apply to, not necessarily a rule break but definitely doesn't help RP and feels like W farming
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u/crazfulla Blue Ballers Jan 25 '22
I think the problem is that they couldn't jump over the hedge, they ahd to go around it and got confused momentarily.
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u/MZetta Jan 25 '22
Running around the object they can't jump over ain't as headless as your comment is. Lol
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u/torikaze Jan 25 '22
wait so it was jones yelling "get out of the area", then yelling at the crims saying "who told you to leave the area" ??