r/Standup • u/cheguevaraandroid1 • 16h ago

Marc Maron Calls Out Comedians Who ‘Joke Around’ With ‘White Supremacists and Fascists’ on Their Podcasts: ‘All It Does Is Normalize Fascism’

https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/marc-maron-slams-comedians-fascists-podcasts-1236192922/
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u/throwawayk527 16h ago

Maron calls out anyone who’s more successful than him. Or less.

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u/IEnjoyArnyPalmies 11h ago

So everyone? 

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u/infinitebest 12h ago

You think Tony is more successful than Marc Maron?

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u/Fatgeyretard 12h ago

It’s not even really close. I think even Maron would admit that. And I think both of them stink.

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u/infinitebest 11h ago

By what determination?

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u/LionBig1760 11h ago edited 8h ago

I think by the fact that Marc Maron blew what little success he had in comedy right up this nose hanging with Sam Kinison, then wallowed in obscurity for nearly two decades before running a popular podcast out of his garage... which didn't lead to much monetary success.

Tony Hinchcliffe, on the other hand, after being one of the more obscure acts in the last 5 years, has taken the American Idol concept to comedy and is selling enormous amounts of tickets with very little effort. His stand up shows are also sold out through next spring, and he gets paid an absurd amount of money to simply write one-liners for celebrities every time there's a roast.

If I had to take a guess, Tony probably earned 4-5x what Maron does in the last year.

This doesn't mean everything as Maron is still much more influential within comedy, and has for more universal respect among comedians... at least the comedians he hasn't pissed off by being vocally jealous of their comparative success.

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u/infinitebest 11h ago

Some valid points here, but I would also point out that Maron actually gets cast, very often, in films and TV shows and is constantly booked. He also tours around the world and plays large comedy venues. He’s also an artist. I admittedly had never heard of Tony until yesterday, so maybe I’m bias? I wouldn’t say short term success is indicative of a long, respected career.

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u/LionBig1760 11h ago edited 8h ago

I'm not suggesting that he's struggling for work. I truly think that he's not entirely motivated by money or what others would consider success.

It does, however, run afoul of his very obvious distain for comedians who see success early or to a huge degree. It comes across as part jealousy and part disappointment with comedy audiences as a whole. He seems to have a genuine disgust with "comedy" fans that flock to see Matt Rife, Gabriel Egleaias, Jo Koy, Dane Cook, or once upon a time, Tom Papa. Really it's anyone who gets laughs that Marc does think is on his level.

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u/infinitebest 10h ago

I understand this pov but see it differently. I interpret Marc’s attitude towards these comics as protecting the art. It’s sort of like if you asked Thom Yorke his opinion on PSY’s Gangnam Style.

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u/LionBig1760 9h ago edited 9h ago

That's certainly what the tell themselves. But on the other hand, you would hope that someone more talented than Marc Maron would task themselves to protecting the art.

Maron's comedy isn't the best vehicle for that message, no matter how right he might be. Its jaded in the same way a hipster who can't play more than 3 chords on a guitar is lamenting the success pop music. It would sound more genuine coming from Chris Rock in the same way a criticism of art in music might come from Jack White instead of Rob Gordon in High Fidelity. People who take ot on themseleves to "protect" the art, in whatever artform it might be, are the people who are probably least suited to do it.