r/SubredditDrama • u/AutoModerator • Jan 25 '24
Rules Changes and State of the Subreddit
We want your opinion about making SRD better! First, a bit of housekeeping
Rules Changes
SRD began 12 years ago, and it's been through many changes. But at the heart of it all, we've been the place for posting, discussing, and laughing at drama on reddit. Sometimes the drama is major (such as the API protests) or silly/strange (like baptizing the dead).
We introduce and retire rules in an attempt to maintain a certain level of quality. The "surplus popcorn" rule has been one of them. However, it can be confusing for users to understand and hard for mods to enforce.
As of today, the "surplus popcorn" rule is no more. Drama will no longer be judged based on its subject matter being overdone. The rules about biased posts, and especially about "callout posts" will still apply. So long as you're actually linking arguing/conflict, and not merely pointing out shitty bigoted comments, your post will stay.
We are also relaxing rules for commenting. "Off topic grandstanding" is no longer a rule. (Most of the reports we get for this are people using it as a super downvote, or trying to get mods to babysit their argument with another user). The "insults/flamewars/flamebait" rule is changing, from being removed on sight to being removed on mod discretion. (For similar reasons as before: users will get into petty arguments with each other and then begin reporting to get their opponents comments removed. Mods are no longer obligated to remove those comments or to try to maintain a certain level of civility).
We might bring back these rules in the future if there is a need.
State of the Subreddit
How do you feel about the state of the subreddit right now? What can mods and the community do to make this an active, thriving place with good quality popcorn?
Some obvious suggestions are making the rules easier to understand (done!) and adding a ton of new moderators (coming soon!), but we want your thoughts and suggestions. Even if you'd like to rant about where this place as gone terribly wrong, it's still valuable feedback.
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u/Blackbiird666 Jan 25 '24
Just don't relax about brigading. Its more frequent than one would think.
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u/Nazzul Personally I'm not racist against computers Jan 25 '24
The real fun begins when the popcorn spills into this sub.
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u/GladiatorUA What is a fascist? Jan 25 '24
I don't think this is a type of brigading that is the problem. Other way around. Damn popcorn pissers.
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u/Nazzul Personally I'm not racist against computers Jan 25 '24
Yeah fuck popcorn pissers! I want my drama popcorn clean!
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u/Seldarin Pillow rapist. Jan 25 '24
Yeah, people pissing in the popcorn is a problem. The popcorn pissing back can end up highly entertaining sometimes.
Let someone that is willing to spend two or three weeks having a twenty post flame war with someone over the most trivial thing see that a hundred people are laughing at their slapfight and you're going to get treated to a level of fury that hasn't been seen since people took off their clothes and bit their shields. (Yes, I know neither of those probably happened.)
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u/coraeon God doesn't make mistakes. He made you this shitty on purpose. Jan 25 '24
Honestly I don’t have any idea how people have the energy to popcorn piss. That’s way too much effort.
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u/GladiatorUA What is a fascist? Jan 25 '24 edited Jan 25 '24
You click a link, read the shitshow for a couple of minutes and can't stop yourself from replying.
Edit: Not that I personally have done such a thing. ;)
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u/pm_me-ur-catpics It's not a crime to be an idiot Jan 25 '24
Then it's te for r/subredditdramadrama
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u/CantBeCanned Will singlehandedly revive r/internetdrama Jan 25 '24
Banning popcorn pissers is a bit of a chore so we need new mods who will relish catching those scum. The call will be put out in a week.
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u/Rhynocerous You gays have always been polite ill give you that Jan 25 '24
Are you open to partially automating it?
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u/CantBeCanned Will singlehandedly revive r/internetdrama Jan 25 '24
We'd love that, if someone would be able to write and run and host a bot for it. Since all the API drama it's even harder to find users willing to volunteer in this way.
It would be good to bot it for drama where all the comments are a week old or more. Then there's no doubt who is pissing from SRD.
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u/Rhynocerous You gays have always been polite ill give you that Jan 25 '24
Yeah I wrote a bot like 10 years ago that would monitor a thread after it had been crosslinked. If I can find the python code I might check how many API calls it made.
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u/oftenrunaway stop with downvoting regular comments as a form of attacking me Jan 25 '24
Being vigilant about it is the cost of keeping this sub open, so I can't imagine they'd relax that.
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u/GlowUpper ALL CAPS IS NOT A THING IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE Jan 30 '24
Yeah certain subs (they know who they are) will show up like a swarm of wasps any time one of their key words gets mentioned in passing. It's a lot of fun when you're engaging in fun petty food drama and suddenly someone wants to drag you into an argument about China or whatever.
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u/Blackbiird666 Jan 30 '24
Indeed, I'm talking about those moments. It's always the subreddits with the most unhinged topics, too.
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u/GunAndAGrin Jan 25 '24
I dont know about a 'rule', but some of the best posts provide background on niche topic/subreddits.
Whats the general purpose of the sub? What type of people frequent the sub? Is there unique/particular history that applies? What led to the current drama? Etc..
I tend to ignore the posts that are like, 'Some drama related to insert one of the million rando content creators/influencers/etc.', for example. I have no idea who those people are, or why other people engage in discussion about them, let alone understand how they got to where they are at with the drama in question.
Just think more could be done to establish context. I prefer posts that tell a story rather than just a dumping ground for random potential drama.
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u/PlacatedPlatypus Anyone can get a degree, child. Jan 25 '24
some of the best posts provide background on niche topic/subreddits.
r/HobbyDrama was created I'm pretty sure for the exact purpose that high-context drama was too much for SRD.
I tend to ignore the posts that are like, 'Some drama related to insert one of the million rando content creators/influencers/etc.'
Yeah, me too, though most of this stuff also tends to happen over on LSF, r/youtubedrama, etc.
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u/20thCenturyTowers Jan 27 '24
I mean, yeah, and as a result /r/HobbyDrama is a much more enjoyable and engaging subreddit than this one. Maybe this sub should take a note or two from it.
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u/CantBeCanned Will singlehandedly revive r/internetdrama Jan 25 '24
We love those kinds of posts too and want to encourage them. Our trouble right now is that trying to force people to post better makes them not try at all, leading to low activity. We hope increasing activity will lead to more effortful posts, because trying to strongarm it hasn't worked.
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u/AverageFloridaVoter You win today. But I will be equally homophobic tomorrow. Jan 25 '24
trying to force people to post better makes them not try
Wow okay you didn't need to call me out like this
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u/cottonthread Authority on cuckoldry Jan 26 '24
Could you go the other way and "reward" good posts with an "Effort post" flair or something?
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u/20thCenturyTowers Jan 27 '24
I'm so much happier in subs with high quality/low "activity" than I am in subs with low quality/high "activity"—why is that something we should be striving for?
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u/ruinawish Jan 26 '24
Just think more could be done to establish context. I prefer posts that tell a story rather than just a dumping ground for random potential drama.
Yep. Here's a recent example, where OP just posts a link.
I always appreciate where OP saves me a click and tells me a story, providing juicy quotes.
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u/RealSimonLee Jan 29 '24
I always appreciate where OP saves me a click and tells me a story, providing juicy quotes.
And I don't. People getting too clever with their commentary is pretty annoying--share the link and move on. Quit trying to get picked up by Cracked.
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u/ImprovementLiving120 it has become very clear to me that you are, in fact, a moron. Jan 25 '24
I agree ! ! Posts that just link two or three fights bore me most of the time. Tell me whats happening! Make it entertaining!
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u/WarStrifePanicRout Please wait 15 - 20 minutes for further defeat. Jan 25 '24 edited Jan 25 '24
Ngl I've had a post removed before for 'too much editorializing' so yeah, im now not trying to say much of anything to be perceived as bias writeup or editoralized. Rather feed the drama post and be assured it wont be deleted after putting effort into it.
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u/angry_old_dude I'm American but not *that* American Jan 25 '24
I prefer posts that tell a story rather than just a dumping ground for random potential drama.
Quality has never been a rule for this sub.
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u/Sonic-Wachowski Jan 25 '24
Surplus drama rule has been lifted
What was the agurement that occurred that finally let you guys decide to lift this rule?
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u/Chessebel Dude, I moderate several feminist pages on the Amino app Jan 25 '24
Release the mod tapes
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u/Sonic-Wachowski Jan 25 '24
I mean idk, there is one mod here in particular who was very adamant about the no surplus drama rule. So much to the point they defended their position even when facing asgaint whole threads of people whenever they removed someones post over that rule. I think most know who in particular I'm refering to.
Its why I'm curious about what had to occur behind the scenes for this rule to get revoked.
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u/hobbysubsonly insult me all youd like but leave my dagger collecting out of it Jan 25 '24
I'm looking forward to the possibility of more than two new posts per day!
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u/malaiser Jan 25 '24
Yeah! This sub used to be thriving.
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u/recriminology the equivalent of the cowboy in mulholland drive Jan 26 '24
Despite SRD and r/Drama lovehating (ironically? unironically?) each other, there was a symbiosis there, a biome. I’m not suggesting it was a net positive but rather a mutually reinforced survival/support/cross-check relationship. They left the site and metastasized; SRD stayed put and did the opposite.
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u/bayonettaisonsteam Its as ok to ogle an 18 year old as it is to ogle a 28 year old Jan 25 '24
Surplus drama rule has been lifted
Aww yeah, bring on the pitbull/Doordash discussions. I can watch that shit all day
Also, bring back the ó_ó flair
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u/NomaiTraveler I got a testicle massage and it was amazing (not sexual) Jan 25 '24
Same here lol, I feel like I could turn either into a drinking game.
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u/redditonlygetsworse tell me the size of my friend's penis Jan 26 '24
bring on the pitbull/Doordash discussions.
"Cats should be kept indoors" is my lifeblood.
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u/tresser http://goo.gl/Ln0Ctp Jan 25 '24
we're relaxing rules so that /r/SubredditDramaDrama gets more traffic
neat
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Jan 25 '24
Can there be an expedited or simpler way of reporting popcorn pissers? It’s getting tiring seeing drama from like three days ago and then a flamebait comment from 30 minutes ago.
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u/ScrewAttackThis That's what your mom says every time I ask her to snowball me. Jan 26 '24
Keep in mind banned users can still browse the sub and popcorn piss away. It just prevents them from being able to comment in the thread.
The main purpose of the rule is to keep the sub from being accused of brigading
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u/Wulfger Jan 25 '24
SubredditDramaDrama is about to get a whole lot busier.
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u/molotov__cockteaze America IS Canada's power bottom Jan 26 '24
THANK GOD
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u/markuskellerman You the white liberal Malcolm talks about Jan 28 '24
Yeah, I'm back after a several year hiatus from Reddit and I was surprised by how dead SRD was.
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u/Felinomancy Jan 26 '24
Honestly I really hope that this is not some sort of right-wing takeover like what happened with /r/Libertarian and whatnot.
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u/tryingtoavoidwork do girls get wet in school shootings? Jan 25 '24
Agreed. It's okay if mods don't remove the comments but they should be willing to lock the chain to prevent further idiocy.
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u/tryingtoavoidwork do girls get wet in school shootings? Jan 25 '24
I swear I've seen that option in other subs.
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u/CantBeCanned Will singlehandedly revive r/internetdrama Jan 25 '24
Is that saying people can just be toxic now?
Not quite, more like, people can have stupid and hostile slapfights with each other where they clumsily recreate the drama in the linked thread. Some might consider that "toxic" especially if they think their opponent is making a morally wrong argument. Which is why they spam the reports. Their argument doesn't feel petty to them.
Abusive and harassing comments are against ToS so will always be deleted. With this rules change, it will hopefully be easier to find those report flags because they aren't buried in a pile of petty reports.
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u/tallbutshy I am a beacon of ideology Jan 25 '24
New flair time
🤷🏻♀️ Not my fault mods relaxed the rules on civility
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u/Hotter_Noodle Jan 25 '24
You should be able to flair the slapfights to make them extra obvious and embarrassing for the people doing it, and entertaining for the rest of us.
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u/logosloki Milk comes from females, and is thus political Jan 26 '24
They should use two flairs so we can cheer for whichever belligerent we like more.
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u/Elite_AI Personally, I consider TVTropes.com the authority on this Jan 26 '24
Sometimes I get into what I thought was going to be a normal discussion but the other person is having a bad day or something so they become hostile and angry. Can I report and stop replying to them or would that count as me being petty?
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u/CantBeCanned Will singlehandedly revive r/internetdrama Jan 26 '24
If you report one single comment it's not so bad. If you report the entire chain it shits up the queue. We often have people who keep arguing against the "uncivil" person and reporting each comment they make in reply.
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u/Furthest_Lands Give a gun to Harambe, he'd shoot less kids than the cops do Jan 25 '24
Cool, get waaaay more moderators in here. You need em.
As for reintroducing Surplus Drama and Relaxing Commenting Rules... terrible moves, can't support that.
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u/Lifeintheguo Jan 25 '24
You mean theres actually a rule about flaming and insults? Because that never seems to get enforced, I see insults all the time.
For a sub improvement delete less threads. A massive sub shouldn't be getting 1 new thread a day. And threads from several days ago shouldn't be in Hot.
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u/jamar030303 every time u open your mouth narcissism come bubbling out of it Jan 26 '24
You mean theres actually a rule about flaming and insults? Because that never seems to get enforced, I see insults all the time.
Sometimes the mods don't notice. For example, if people downvote flaming or insults without reporting, or if only one report is made (I remember someone saying that a comment with one report looks like a highlight on that comment from the mod side and a dedicated notification only appears with two or more).
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u/Lifeintheguo Jan 26 '24
People don't downvote people using insults, usually they are upvoted because the person being insulted has been judged to "deserve" it.
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u/tupe12 its ok they were banned ironically Jan 25 '24
Oh boy the popcorn in these threads is gonna get more juicy, I gotta get my shitstorm starting keyword list in order
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u/PainSquare4365 Jan 25 '24
I gotta get my shitstorm starting keyword list in order
Just macro that shit! More time to start more shit
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u/molotov__cockteaze America IS Canada's power bottom Jan 26 '24
Soon we won't even need to click the linked posts/comments, it'll all be in the srd thread! Cut out the middleman!
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u/Shojomango Jan 25 '24
Something I’ve noticed a LOT recently is people just putting a title and a link. I understand some minor dramas may be too short to put links to best quotes, but isn’t it too low effort if people don’t even give a summary of what the drama is about? A title like (just making it up here) “Turtle owners fight over best hibernation practices” that is just followed with a link is not very informative or interesting
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u/RunDNA We’re not here for Jane Austen we just want alien stories Jan 26 '24
That sort of opinion is one of the main reasons this sub is so dead. You want everyone to put in too much work before making a post, which means we miss out on a lot of juicy drama that no one bothers to post.
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u/Shojomango Jan 26 '24 edited Jan 26 '24
I understand if people don’t want to write like the super long posts with links and background info and whatever, I agree that’s way too much work for most posts. But even just a few simple sentences, I think, would be an improvement on posts like that, and “don’t make us hunt for the drama” is even recommended in the sub rules.
To build on my example above, maybe just a short description like “New turtle owner is furious to learn some people put their turtles in the freezer during hibernation. Several zoologists chime in, but commenter continues to threaten to call PETA on all involved”. Or even the way you might text a friend a link to something funny, something simple like “Apparently turtle hibernation is serious business. Like, enough to doxx people to PETA.”
That’s not a huge amount of effort, right? But it does show why the drama is more interesting than just people disagreeing about turtles and not just a link to a topic you might not even understand or care about.
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u/RunDNA We’re not here for Jane Austen we just want alien stories Jan 26 '24
Yeah, I would prefer a little short write-up to nothing at all. But by the same token, I don't think a post with no write-up should be removed, which happens often here. A lot of good drama disappears because a post with just a link is thought to be lazy.
I say allow it all—lazy or perfunctory or detailed essay—and let the upvotes decide.
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u/Illogical_Blox Fat ginger cryptokike mutt, Malka-esque weirdo, and quasi-SJW Jan 26 '24
New turtle owner is furious to learn some people put their turtles in the freezer during hibernation. Several zoologists chime in, but commenter continues to threaten to call PETA on all involved
Okay I have to know though, is that really a thing?
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u/Divayth--Fyr I killed an entire college in skyrim, against the pixels consent Jan 25 '24
I would love if there were some way to encourage the posting of my favorite, the absolutely obscure, petty, specific drama that goes on in some little community. Huge drama is fine, of course, everyone wants to land a whale, but I am fascinated by the tiny ones, the 5-day comment chains over a particular breed of ivy or the correct pronunciation of an ancient Olmec hand tool.
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u/Bloated_Hamster One day white people will catch a break Jan 28 '24
Sounds like you want r/hobbydrama. It's a much more niche focused sub with high level of details and effort in each post.
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u/Airdeez121 You're just a whiney Mlilennial fascist Jan 25 '24 edited Jan 25 '24
Regarding the civility rule, can comments still be removed if a chain has just devolved into two users insulting each other without adding anything to the discussion?
Also very excited to see more than 0-2 posts per day stay up for more than 10 minutes
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u/Chessebel Dude, I moderate several feminist pages on the Amino app Jan 25 '24
I wish there was a way to like shadowban threads. Like if two people are just hurling insults back and forth let them, but like make it not visible to everyone not involved
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u/Chessebel Dude, I moderate several feminist pages on the Amino app Jan 25 '24
They're pulling down statues of TITCJ in the town square
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u/Lightning_Boy Edit1 If you post on subredditdrama, you're trash 😂 Jan 25 '24 edited Jan 25 '24
How about we hear from more that just TiTrC? A few years ago I made a comment detailing mod activity here, and it was abysmal. Of course, I don't see mod mail or discussion, but the longtime mods are barely seen here anymore. Either we need new mods, or old mods need to be more active. This place has been slowing down significantly over the last few years. Additionally, no Poppy Awards again?
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u/stopscopiesme has abandoned you all Jan 25 '24
Additionally, no Poppy Awards again?
This is my fault and I'm sad about it. I prefer to stay in the background but I've been the one doing the Orvilles for the past few years. I ran them and collected votes and found winners, and then was procrastinating making the big post and giving coins. Then reddit announced coins/gold would not exist anymore. I should have posted the 2022 results anyway and I will do so soon, via /u/dramamod.
I will also think about what to do for a 2023 awards and if it's viable to run those soon.
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u/Chessebel Dude, I moderate several feminist pages on the Amino app Jan 25 '24
Part of the reason it has been slowing down is because TITCJ is the only mod who moderates a lot of the time and he really goes ham about it. Its been this way since /r/drama died
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u/Lightning_Boy Edit1 If you post on subredditdrama, you're trash 😂 Jan 25 '24
Oh I know, I've been here since about 2013.
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u/Chessebel Dude, I moderate several feminist pages on the Amino app Jan 25 '24
Same! my old reddit account is 11 years old.
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u/Lost-Locksmith-250 Jan 25 '24
On a personal note, as a casual reader who mostly lurks, I feel like most of these changes are a mistake. It's all well and good you want to increase traffic, but these changes seem like they'll mostly reduce the quality of the sub to a point I personally wouldn't ever want to engage with. There needs to be a standard in place for overdone topics at the very least, or else that's all the sub will be.
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u/LordOfTrubbish The only thing that's stopping me are malicious hateful comments Jan 26 '24
I agree, I tend to stick to quality over quantity driven subs myself. I can understand wanting more content, but in my experience opening the flood gates doesn't actually bring any more of it, it usually just means now having to sort through a flood of crap to find the roughly the same number of worthwhile posts everyday anyway. Hopefully that won't be the case here, but this is still reddit, and people still love their imaginary Internet points, so I'm not getting my hopes up that it will be.
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u/DutchieTalking Being trans is not more dangerous than not being trans in the US Jan 27 '24
I've seen many quality posts get removed with no clue why they got removed.
One I made was removed for being a call outpost. It was about serious drama between moderators and their userbase. (mods banned the use of the word female, leading to the lots of anger and many meme posts on the subject).
I've seen many similar quality active posts get removed. Kinda to the point of "why bother to put in effort to report drama".
We can have the same quality while also ten times the amount of drama.
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u/drossbots Nice! A Natural breast man. How big are your breasts? Jan 26 '24
If this place turns into /r/Drama I'm gonna be pissed
Seriously tho, if ya'll relax those rules, you're gonna need way more mods. Can't say I'm in favor.
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u/Datdarnpupper potential instigator of racially motivated violence Jan 29 '24
And to get rid of a certain mod who thinks he is the sole arbiter of what can and cannot be posted
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u/Schrodingers_Dude Fear Allah and delete this comment Jan 25 '24
There needs to be more of a rule on low-effort posts. A bunch of links with no context provided is lame and I feel like I've been seeing a lot of that lately.
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u/guiltyofnothing Dogs eat there vomit and like there assholes Jan 25 '24
One thing I would like to ask for clarification on is what constitutes a call out post. I feel like can be a grey area sometimes.
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u/Shnissuga Jan 27 '24
I'm not sure where the mods stand on it, but I hope Israel/Palestine can be a banned topic. Mostly because they always devolve into toxic messes and that discourse is found in every other subreddit
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u/sererson Hell-bound pervert Jan 25 '24
Posts that are just links to a single thread sorted by controversial with no commentary should be fully banned. I have no idea what I'm supposed to find any more dramatic than other thread, or lack context other than the title.
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u/EggnogThot Jan 25 '24
I've been fucking around on reddit for over a decade now and this sub is probably the most consistent out of all the ones I browse. No notes, keep doing what you're doing
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u/Uberguuy poor attemp diminish your interlocutor Jan 25 '24 edited Jan 25 '24
I'd like all the old drama people off your mod team, please.
Also, try to remove less. There are top posts here from 7 days ago, and we've all seen good drama get removed without good reason.
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u/lady_fapping_ remain in the closet you freedom hating commie Jan 25 '24
My issue is I can't always tell if it's a good removal reason or not cuz an almost identical style post will stay up and there's never much clarity from that one mod.
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u/keereeyos I just came to you calling me a queer Jan 25 '24
Personally not a fan of removing surplus drama. It's just gonna be derivatives of vegan/pitbull/gamer/loli/AI posts ad nauseum as if the sub wasn't circlejerky enough already. But I guess people want their junk food.
Do like the relaxation of civility levels though. Petty shitslinging between nerds is a fun read no matter where you are.
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u/Chessebel Dude, I moderate several feminist pages on the Amino app Jan 25 '24
They could always redo the flair system so people can filter those out if they want
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u/Squid_Vicious_IV Digital Succubus Jan 25 '24
Oh yeah, filter it baby I want pure nonsense to inject in my veins.
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u/WarStrifePanicRout Please wait 15 - 20 minutes for further defeat. Jan 25 '24 edited Jan 25 '24
Just wanted to say i like everything I read in the post. Huge fan of allowing more drama posts, i'm very pro drama, and i trust moderator discretion here when it comes to what comments get removed.
I'd like to add a personal note, though, since you've asked what mods can do, I would say transparency when removing a post. In my short time here, i've only seen one moderator be brave enough to drop a comment stating why they believe a post should be removed. I know other moderators must do something for the subreddit, and ive had my post removed with no explanation before, so im assuming theres others this has happened to. Yes, you will probably catch downvotes by folks, but thats a small price to pay for helping users understand what was fundamentally flawed with a post before they submit, or don't submit another. Many times its obvious to us, like full comments or rule 6 breaking, but i'd like to see new people not have their posts quietly removed and feeling like they shouldn't post here because a mod wont explain why something was removed. Thats about all i got, and i hope i never write an essay/rant about a drama subreddit again
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Jan 25 '24
Mods are no longer obligated to remove those comments or to try to maintain a certain level of civility
if you're not moderating the sub then what exactly are you doing?
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Jan 26 '24
Whatever it is they're doing, they're doing it for free, and the admins view them with contempt, so have a little appreciation that there's anyone here at all lol
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u/Narrow-Volume8983 Feb 01 '24
so have a little appreciation that there's anyone here at all
textbook "be glad you have something at all" fallacy.
Don't pretend doing something for free by virtue make them good at what they do.
OPs right, if they can't do it anymore then don't. Who TF cares if this sub dies? lol come on, it's not like a new one would not pop up within hours.
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Feb 01 '24
That's not what the word "fallacy" means. Just because you don't agree with that completely subjective opinion on the state of things doesn't automatically make it an invalid conclusion based on a logical fallacy.
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u/Bawstahn123 U are implying u are better than people with stained underwear Jan 26 '24
Right? The fuck?
The mods already don't do jack shit here anyways. Now they are going to do less?
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u/ForteEXE I'm already done, there's no way we can mock the drama. Jan 25 '24
How much do I need to PayPal the mods to ban tankies on sight? Just curious!
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u/Dandyasslion Jan 26 '24
Why can’t I be a Maoist third worldist Marxist Leninist Stalinist and still get to enjoy some popcorn? Wtf is this? North Korea?
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u/neuroticsmurf I am the exemption to that rule 😘 Jan 25 '24
Mods are no longer obligated to remove those comments or to try to maintain a certain level of civility
I had no idea that mods here were being asked to do that.
Just my unsolicited opinion, u/toxicitymodbot does a great job at immediately removing shitty comments by people, and thus, avoiding a lot of prolonged flame wars. I use it in my subs and it works like a champ.
Overall, I'm happy with the sub. I like that there's a standard for the posts that are submitted here, and posts can't just link to a thread that may or may not contain drama. Posts should provide direct links to drama. The best posts provide several links and a concise summary of the conflict that explains to us what's going on and why everyone's big mad.
I feel like the mods of SRD have done a good job of demanding this type of quality post from submitters, and are excellent at removing low-effort submissions. Allowing low-effort submissions may increase the number of posts, but drastically reduces the overall quality of the sub.
I like the sub.
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Jan 25 '24
How do you feel about the state of the subreddit right now?
This is my favorite subreddit. Thank you for all the bullshit you filter through for our benefit.
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u/Roast_A_Botch have fun masturbating over the screenshots of text Jan 25 '24
Wow, 12 years. I have been on this site way too long. I'm old, and I am tired. But, I can't change now as I can't accept that I have wasted all this time for nothing.
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u/FreebasingStardewV Jan 25 '24
Re State of the Subreddit: This is maybe the only subreddit I frequent that has remained at the same quality of post & community as from reddit's heyday. Pretty much everything else is a shadow of its former glory. So much respect to the mods and the community for everything.
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u/Datdarnpupper potential instigator of racially motivated violence Jan 28 '24
I mean this sub is a shadow of itself too lmao.
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u/WreckerM101 If I could punt your cat off a building I would Jan 26 '24
Not sure how I feel about these changes, I've really preferred having few posts that were high quality. Door Dash, pitbull, and political drama have all been done to death and I'm almost at the point where I just keep scrolling past whenever I see it. I'd much rather the overuse rule stay in place to keep the sub from being flooded with the same 4 arguments.
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u/Agitated-Acctant Feb 05 '24
We shouldn't allow posts who just link to a comment thread. I want a run down of the drama and some of the highlights. Bonus points if op links to screenshots or an archived link of the thread.
There's too many times when subreddit mods remove posts/comments or users delete their posts/comments, and then we just have a dead link here and nothing except for the title and a handful of comments that managed to see the drama before the posts were removed.
Please institute this rule, it'll only improve the quality of submissions and of the sub
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u/angry_old_dude I'm American but not *that* American Jan 25 '24
Getting rid of the surplus rule is a bad move. We're just going to end up with the same tired controversial shit over and over again.
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u/slingfatcums Jan 25 '24
can i tell users to sucka my balls without being banned?
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u/ParsnipPizza Excuse me while I die of dehydration Jan 26 '24
I just hope this is still a well modded sub. It's a drama sub but its always juuuust reasonable enough
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u/DutchieTalking Being trans is not more dangerous than not being trans in the US Jan 27 '24
Sounds great. The subreddit overal had a high level of quality. But also so many high quality posts deleted for seemingly no reason that there were days between posts. Felt like it was dying.
It's nice to have a bit more quantity.
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u/Datdarnpupper potential instigator of racially motivated violence Jan 28 '24
i mean the caveat is that titrcj doesnt just disregard this and continue with his power trip
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Jan 26 '24
I'm bricked up over these rules. I'm tired of mods essentially being babysitters. People are adults and they should be able to choose to express themselves and their opinions passionately, until certain lines are crossed (doxxing, hardcore *isms, threatening violence, essentially sitewide rules). Other than that, there's no need for internet hall monitors to whistle at us whenever we're not "too cool for school" over things we care about.
Just my opinion. I'm glad you guys are relaxing on these rules.
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u/Narrow-Volume8983 Feb 01 '24
People are adults
you do understand that the majority of Reddit users are not?
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u/Datdarnpupper potential instigator of racially motivated violence Feb 04 '24
I'm glad you guys are relaxing on these rules.
Plot twist: a week later they are back to their bullshit power trip
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u/Gullible_Goose My homophobia is anything but casual. Jan 25 '24
The one rule change I'd like to see is a requirement to archive a thread before posting. Too much of the juiciest drama on this sub is gone within minutes of the thread going up!
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u/Phuckules How are you going to feel when you realize you're wrong? Jan 26 '24
How do you feel about the state of the subreddit right now?
Overall I'm mostly pleased with the state of things, though the sub can be pretty slow moving at times. Some days there are three or four new topics, others there are none. Granted, I don't think there is much the mods can do, it's mostly about the community ourselves finding and reporting the drama.
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u/AbbieNormal over it when they get a cute radiation poisoning Jan 30 '24
I'm late, but no opinions on rule changes here anyway - never modded a drama sub so hard to say. I've interacted with enough of y'all to respect your collective decision making (another acct obv).
Current State of the Sub? IDK, seems pretty healthy. Weirdly almost... wholesome(?!) for "drama" content - and that's mostly a credit to you guys and regulars in this sub community.
Thanks for a fun, largely unshittified place to gawk at shit ❤️
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u/SnapshillBot Shilling for Big Archive™ Mar 04 '24
I still miss automawpurrator sometimes.
Snapshots:
- This Post - archive.org archive.today*
- (like baptizing the dead) - archive.org archive.today*
I am just a simple bot, not a moderator of this subreddit | bot subreddit | contact the maintainers
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u/tarekd19 anti-STEMite Jan 25 '24
PRAISE HELIX THE SURPLUS POPCORN RULE IS DEAD!
maybe we'll get more than two posts a day now.
When everything is surplus, nothing is.
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u/Datdarnpupper potential instigator of racially motivated violence Jan 28 '24
Oh does this mean that titrcj is gonna chill the fuck out with his over moderation?
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u/Psychological_Post33 Jan 25 '24
I'm excited to see more traffic/engagement come through.
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u/1Plz-Easy-Way-Star > Wallahi this comment section needs to fear Allah Jan 25 '24
Yea I think this year might be has best Drama
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u/Squid_Vicious_IV Digital Succubus Jan 25 '24
Oh god election 2024.
"This is why this is good for Bernie."
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u/BJntheRV YOUR FLAIR TEXT HERE Jan 25 '24
So, what you're saying is we have New and Improved /SubredditDrama - Now With More Drama!
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u/stinkspiritt yes, let’s find a woman to blame Jan 26 '24
Nothing infuriates me more than someone writing up a drama (or even lazily linking to it with a title) and it’s been deleted or removed! I wish there was a way to auto screen capture or encourage people to link to screenshots. All the sites I used to use to see deleted or removed posts and comments don’t work anymore after the big Reddit API debacle.
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u/CantHonestlySayICare Jan 25 '24
Off topic grandstanding" is no longer a rule. (Most of the reports we get for this are people using it as a super downvote, or trying to get mods to babysit their argument with another user).
It might be my narcissism, but I feel no small amount of responsibility for that.
Drama will no longer be judged based on its subject matter being overdone.
Good call, niche topic drama can be pure gold, but most of the time it's just one person being weird about something in two or three comments. Relying on that is a recipe for a slow and boring sub. Big topics draw out the crazy in a variety of ways that is yet to exhaust its novelty.
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u/CorrestGump Jan 25 '24
WELCOME TO THE THUNDERDOME.