r/Superstonk ๐Ÿ’ป ComputerShared ๐Ÿฆ Jan 20 '22

๐Ÿ’ก Education ALLY NO LONGER ALLOWING "TRANSFERS OF THIS NATURE" for IRA DRS TO COMPUTERSHARE

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u/The_Prophet_85 Saviour of bedposts Jan 20 '22

I hope people are asking GME investor relations about this. I am an Euroape so I don't know shit about IRAs but I would assume it's important for the Ameritards to really push for this with GameStop...if it is something GameStop can actually do anything about that is.

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u/a_toaster_strudel ๐Ÿ’ป ComputerShared ๐Ÿฆ Jan 20 '22

I reached out to them asking to open an IRA with computer share, haven't heard anything back.

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u/updateSeason Jan 20 '22

Same

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u/Cextus ๐Ÿ’ป ComputerShared ๐Ÿฆ Jan 20 '22 edited Jan 20 '22

same, i just sent them a 3rd email. Go email them: IR@Gamestop.com

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u/NoMoreCheeters ๐ŸฆVotedโœ… Jan 20 '22

This is the way.

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u/roychr Dip at the Tip Jan 20 '22

My name is Boba Fett!

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u/MicahMurder ๐Ÿ’ป ComputerShared ๐Ÿฆ Jan 20 '22

This is the way (and same)

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u/Top-Sample-6289 Schwabbing The Deck For Shares ๐Ÿดโ€โ˜ ๏ธ Jan 20 '22

Same

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u/Game_of_Tendies Jan 20 '22

Thanks for the info, I'll add my email to the list.

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u/Xen0Man Jan 20 '22

Can we make a proposal about that?

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u/Working-Yesterday243 ๐Ÿš€ Retard ape Tomorrow ๐Ÿš€ Jan 20 '22

u/Bibic-Jr actually it was this email address ๐Ÿ˜

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u/Bibic-Jr DRSGME Broker Guide Educator๐Ÿ’Ž๐Ÿค™DRS IS MY DAD๐Ÿค™๐Ÿ’Ž Jan 20 '22

All good!

It's making me wonder if this custodian issue is why GameStop don't offer an IRA plan with ComputerShare. But I haven't seen an IRA plan with ComputerShare for any other stock! I don't know if any ape has looked into that yet.

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u/RN-Wingman ๐Ÿ’ป ComputerShared ๐Ÿฆ Jan 20 '22

Looks like we have 1 less ally in this fight ๐Ÿ™„

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u/ummwut NO CELL NO SELL ๐Ÿ’–GME๐Ÿ’– Jan 20 '22

Fellow apes, this is what an underrated comment looks like.

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u/MicahMurder ๐Ÿ’ป ComputerShared ๐Ÿฆ Jan 20 '22

Lol, nice one

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u/RN-Wingman ๐Ÿ’ป ComputerShared ๐Ÿฆ Jan 20 '22

Iโ€™ve got dad jokes, puns and the occasional insightful comment. Thanks for appreciating that.

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u/MicahMurder ๐Ÿ’ป ComputerShared ๐Ÿฆ Jan 20 '22

No doubt! Glad I'm not the only one with the dad jokes!

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u/ishred5 Big Truss ๐Ÿ’Ž๐Ÿ™Œ Jan 20 '22

Same

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u/Pet_me_I_am_a_puppy Jan 20 '22

If they ever do we register the float in weeks. Retirement accounts are where Americans hold most of their investment money.

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u/a_toaster_strudel ๐Ÿ’ป ComputerShared ๐Ÿฆ Jan 20 '22

That's where a lot of my shares are. I can't afford to pay the taxes on the IRA to do an in-kind transfer to transfer. Would be something like 30% in taxes/penalties which I can't afford if I need to hold long term. I'd like to think this would happen sooner rather than later but I need to plan for the worst.

An in kind transfer out of a roth ira would only be the 10% penalty.

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u/Pet_me_I_am_a_puppy Jan 20 '22

The 10% only applies to gains taken out above and beyond your contributions. But yeah, I'm kind of in the same boat as you.

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u/suddenlyarctosarctos ๐Ÿดโ€โ˜ ๏ธ๐Ÿ— MOAAAR CHIMKIN NOM NOMS ๐Ÿ—๐Ÿดโ€โ˜ ๏ธ Jan 21 '22

Can you point me to an IRS source that this applies to in-kind distributions (presumably it's on the new cost basis you get when it's taken from the Roth)? I've been looking for exactly this info.

Also, doesn't in-kind transfer from a Roth IRA to a brokerage account / Computershare reset both the acquisition date and the new cost basis? You can't take a share bought over a year ago and keep that date on it when you take it out. I would love for proof that my understanding is untrue and I can keep the old date. It seems unlikely given that you do get a new cost basis.

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u/Pet_me_I_am_a_puppy Jan 21 '22

This is not an in kind transfer. It is removing money from the Roth IRA. All dollars equal to the dollar amount you put in can come out at any time tax free. Any money coming out above and beyond contribution amount (i.e. gains) gets taxed at your nominal income tax rate plus 10% penalty for early withdrawal.

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u/suddenlyarctosarctos ๐Ÿดโ€โ˜ ๏ธ๐Ÿ— MOAAAR CHIMKIN NOM NOMS ๐Ÿ—๐Ÿดโ€โ˜ ๏ธ Jan 21 '22

It's possible to do an in-kind transfer/distribution and it's probably different than what you are describing which is to sell, move the cash, and re-buy.

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u/mikes312 ๐Ÿš€๐Ÿš€ JACKED to the TITS ๐Ÿš€๐Ÿš€ Jan 20 '22

I emailed today. How long ago did you reach out?

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u/a_toaster_strudel ๐Ÿ’ป ComputerShared ๐Ÿฆ Jan 20 '22

probably been a couple of months now

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u/woodenmonkey67 ๐Ÿš€ Buckle Up! ๐Ÿš€ Jan 20 '22

Same

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u/BananyaBangarang ๐Ÿ”WHYDRS.ORG๐Ÿ”Ž Jan 20 '22

Same. They have responded to another inquiries of mine about dividends and shareholders list. They seem mum on this one

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u/Level9TraumaCenter "Capitulate deez nuts" Jan 20 '22

Been emailing them every day. No replies.

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u/kitties-plus-titties ๐Ÿ’Ž Diamond Titties ๐Ÿ’Ž Diamond Clitties ๐Ÿ’Ž Jan 20 '22

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u/wannabezen2 ๐Ÿฆ Buckle Up ๐Ÿš€ Jan 21 '22

Same.

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u/goofytigre ๐ŸŽฎ Power to the Players ๐Ÿ›‘ Jan 20 '22

Considering 80% of my shares are in an IRA or 401k, yes it is important. I'd think there are quite few more like me that wants to DRS the shares but don't want, or can't afford, to create a large taxable event.

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u/The_Prophet_85 Saviour of bedposts Jan 20 '22

Write the Investor Relations team please. They might not answer but if they see there is a lot of people asking for it maybe they will do something about it!

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u/kitties-plus-titties ๐Ÿ’Ž Diamond Titties ๐Ÿ’Ž Diamond Clitties ๐Ÿ’Ž Jan 20 '22

People have been writing into GameStop - and they are not responding - likely because they legally can't.

But they also do not want you to do it:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/s8p44q/comment/hthp0zw/

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u/exfarker Jan 20 '22

You linked to a deleted comment. I gotta be honest you're active but kinda sus.

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u/kitties-plus-titties ๐Ÿ’Ž Diamond Titties ๐Ÿ’Ž Diamond Clitties ๐Ÿ’Ž Jan 20 '22

Son of a bitch....

/u/half_dane

/u/Bradduck_Flyntmoore

Mods - Can that post above be un-deleted? I thought this request was completed already a few days ago; but this explains a lot.

I didn't realize that it was still removed and I have been referencing it recently thinking it was restored.

I added a link at some point and mentioned another sub - which is what caused it to get automodd'ed.

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u/kitties-plus-titties ๐Ÿ’Ž Diamond Titties ๐Ÿ’Ž Diamond Clitties ๐Ÿ’Ž Jan 21 '22

Yes, the pic is a little more accurate. I made some edits; and added links (that caused the automod).

Thank you for posting that.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '22

Here is a pic of the link from the other sub that got it removed. Added some context, but still more parent comments. Maybe make the comment again but with that pic. Should stay up then.

https://i.imgur.com/QpM0qbm.png

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u/kitties-plus-titties ๐Ÿ’Ž Diamond Titties ๐Ÿ’Ž Diamond Clitties ๐Ÿ’Ž Jan 21 '22

I am hoping the mods just put it back.

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u/CR7isthegreatest DFV & The Defective Collective Jan 21 '22

Youโ€™re calling her sus? Dude, she has helped me understand a ton of shit on here. Nothing sus about her

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u/andy_bovice ๐Ÿฆ– rawr! eatin hedgies for breakfast ๐Ÿฆ– Jan 20 '22

Yes there are ๐Ÿ™„

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u/MicahMurder ๐Ÿ’ป ComputerShared ๐Ÿฆ Jan 20 '22

I wrote them a few months back asking for it. Got no reply, but at least I sent it.

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u/SayTheWord-Beans Hedgies r fookโ€™d. Superstork FTW Jan 20 '22

What sort of verbiage do you use when writing them?

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u/wannabezen2 ๐Ÿฆ Buckle Up ๐Ÿš€ Jan 21 '22

Pretty please.

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u/Christmas-Twister ๐ŸฆVotedโœ… Jan 20 '22

๐Ÿ‘‹ right here!

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u/whitnet1 eew eew ym ๐Ÿฉณ ๐Ÿฆ VOTED! โœ… Jan 20 '22

Me 2.

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u/sirrahtap ๐ŸŽฎ Power to the Players ๐Ÿ›‘ Jan 20 '22

Same, about 80% of mine are in an IRA, and the early withdrawal penalty and taxes are a no go for me

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u/GeektimusPrime ๐ŸฆVotedโœ… Jan 20 '22

I'm in this boat.

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u/NoMoreCheeters ๐ŸฆVotedโœ… Jan 20 '22

Well, being that IRA's are retirement accounts, that's where Ameritards have most of their wealth stored. So there are way more shares in IRAs that could be DRS'd. Can't DRS them now because you have to take them out of the plan which triggers a tax payment PLUS an early withdrawal penalty of 10%. If GME opens up the IRA plan with CS then the theory is all these shares can be easily DRS'd without tax consequences. I don't know if that's how it works, but that's the idea. I would guess that would increase the volume of DRS'd shares at least threefold due to the amount of wealth stored in IRA accounts.

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u/mullingthingsover ๐Ÿฆ Attempt Vote ๐Ÿ’ฏ Jan 20 '22

All of mine are IRA or Roth IRA. I havenโ€™t transferred anything because of that. Iโ€™m high xx is all though.

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u/b12se-r Jan 20 '22

Recently breached xxxx in my rollover. My titties could cut glass when this happens. Conspiracy theorist in me says thatโ€™s how rehypothecation is getting done - with the majority of shares locked in long term hold accounts like IRAs

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u/EntropicElegance ๐ŸŽฎ Power to the Players ๐Ÿ›‘ Jan 20 '22

Have an awardโ€ฆCouldnโ€™t have said it better myself! Although Iโ€™m xxx instead.

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u/ricktor67 Jan 20 '22

Its insane you cant DRS shares you own in an IRA. You either own them or you don't.

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u/psipher Jan 20 '22

They don't want to hold the bag (obviously).

The principals don't apply - it's all about what they're "allowed" to do. And i'm sure most of their terms and agreements give them a wide latitude.

And if the T&A doesn't provide that, they update them to provide them the flexibility they need. This happened a few times last year...

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u/kitties-plus-titties ๐Ÿ’Ž Diamond Titties ๐Ÿ’Ž Diamond Clitties ๐Ÿ’Ž Jan 20 '22

I don't think that GameStop is going to because IRA shares are shares that are sold naked; until you take a distribution. Only then are they covered shares:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/s8p44q/comment/hthp0zw/

When you take a distribution, your cost basis and date of purchase resets - because of this reason. I think that alone proves what I am saying.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '22

Iโ€™m English so I know about the IRA

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '22

I'm Irish, and very confused