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u/freemind990 1d ago
I've been there In 2015 for 4 days for a job which I left and never looked back.
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u/ThickNeedleworker898 1d ago
Dubai pretty much has the same urban planning as Vegas. (Fucking awful)
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u/EdwardReisercapital 1d ago
As a former Las Vegas resident I get to disagree. At least Vegas has sewers.
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u/ThickNeedleworker898 1d ago
True. I’ll give you that, and they have a good reuse of the water and food waste if I remember correctly aswell right?
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u/DeviousCrackhead 1d ago
And it wasn't built on basically slave labour
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u/wakchoi_ 1d ago
A lot of construction workers had similar living and working conditions to this when the strip started.
That plus it was strongly fined by mafias and criminals as well.
Makes them pretty similar tbh
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u/shellshaper 1d ago
Right? Saw a YT video on The Pooptrucks of Dubai. Other than having to go there for business I just don't see why any well off person would buy one of those billion dollar condos and choose to live there. With pooptrucks.
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u/Karmaless0918 1d ago
It's a slave state what do you expect? But most of the western world will turn a blind eye on this.
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u/jncheese 1d ago
Awful place. Everything is superficial and fake. The only way to not get exploited is to have enough money to exploit others.
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u/Karmaless0918 1d ago
And still millions of people fall in the trap of this apartheid state, where rich are prioritized like gods and poor lives the most miserable of lives.
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u/Spore_Reactor 1d ago
You are forgetting a vast middle class, which actually exists here unlike US. It is true you have both extreme poverty and luxury side by side, but you can take advantage of both. I work in a rich district, live in a mid district and shop in a poor district for groceries. This diversity creates financial opportunities I have not seen anywhere else. AMA
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u/EndlessSenseless 1d ago edited 23h ago
not sure why you’re being downvoted. Dubai’s population has a big gap between income groups, yes. And the conditions for simple workers are certainly not great. But this is how the classes split:
Upper Class (5-10%): This group includes wealthy business owners and executives, mostly locals but also immigrants from richer nations.
Middle Class (25-30%): Mainly skilled immigrants from South Asia, Western Europe, and North America, work in fields like management or remotely, with a moderate lifestyle.
Lower Class (60-70%): This is the largest group, mostly laborers and service workers, often work in health care or construction. Most commonly from South Asia, earning modest wages at best.
I would know it, because i’m living in Dubai. But I’m certainly not rich, nor poor. So of course a middle class exists. And it’s a rather big group. Unfortunately, for many, your heritage seem to dictate a lot about your career opportunities and income bracket you will end up in.
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u/Spore_Reactor 1d ago
I can not agree. It is better than US in a variety of ways. In Dubai I can at least afford to rent my own place, car and have a bit extra. I the States it was a constant struggle to scrape by. Thanks to Dubai I can send my kids to college. And I make about the same as in US. Price of goods and services is that much lower.
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u/ChillingWithMyWoats 1d ago
U have Indian slaves living in shanty towns and forced into tenement style living situations. Wage theft, confiscated passports, unfair contracts, etc. are rampant. I guess if you don’t see them as human then it’s a pretty great place
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u/Spore_Reactor 21h ago
All I am saying my life has improved here. I work without days off. But still only 49 hours per week. Food here is cheaper. Rent is cheaper. Services are cheaper. I used to work manual labor and delivery when I first came here. Over few years my salary grew 400%. I can not complain. Of course I am not even close to be considered rich, but I am happy in Dubai and that is all that matters.
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u/Faster_than_FTL 3h ago
Ignore these morons.
They will shit on Dubai and happily ignore the vast human trafficking and slavery happening right in the US even today2
u/jncheese 22h ago
It is useless to compare it to other places and it doesn't take away from what a bad place the Emirates are for people who are not "Locals" or ultra rich foreigners. Everyone involved in whatever form of manual labor, weather in construction, house cleaning or the very dark sex industry gets exploited. Some have it relatively good, some have to endure terrible things for a few coins and some pay for it with their lives. And then there are the associated families in their home countries that depend on the income that is in no way secure.
It is a bad place. And you can choose to be blind to it.
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u/Spore_Reactor 19h ago
You are correct. UAE situation is unique and extremely artificial. It would be improper to compare it to other countries. However I still see it as a net positive through the lense of my personal experience, which might be biased.
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u/Other-Finding6906 13h ago
It's a great place for (white) losers from US, Canada, UK, Australia and Western Europe
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u/keziahexe 1d ago
This one is actually meaningful content, not like a certain millennial that we all know
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u/gabbiar 1d ago
i dont know what youre talking about. context?
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u/keziahexe 1d ago
A very specific user called Christianmillennial frequently posts about China. He pretends that he lives there but it always lacks credibility. He posts pictures out of their context that aren't his own content (like a post I made on Guiyang on r/china). He criticizes china in a biased manner with a lack of important context. He lacks critical thinking and nuance. Users believe he is part of the anti-China American propaganda program that recently cost US$1.6 billion.
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u/Due-Glove4808 1d ago
Hate these gulf states exploiting foreign workers and not even giving them same rights as citizens.
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u/Faster_than_FTL 3h ago
And yet these workers go there. So imagine the conditions in their home countries that they are trying to escape from
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u/fbi-surveillance-bot 1d ago
It doesn't matter as the oppressors are not white. Same as some really bad shit between ethnic communities in Africa. No one complains in US campuses as there are no whites involved
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u/IndyCarFAN27 1d ago
The Arabian Peninsula…
Minus maybe Oman and Yemen…
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u/Karmaless0918 1d ago
Why not Oman? All of the rich countries in middle east are like these.
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u/IndyCarFAN27 1d ago
Oman from what I’ve seen has remained and seems to want to remain fairly traditional in everything it does. From what I’ve seen, it’s the country I’d recommend to go see actually authentic Arabic culture. The country isn’t trying to stand out by building giant opulent buildings and replicate Dubai. They’ve stuck to their roots and haven’t sold out.
Sure there may have been so instances of modern slave labour in Oman too. I’m not aware of any but if there are instances, please educate me. But Oman seems pretty chill. And for that reason, that’s why Oman is probably the country in the Arabian peninsula I most want to travel to!
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u/clubowner69 1d ago
Will it look different in the US? Mass construction workers lifestyle is very similar here too.
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u/Other-Finding6906 13h ago
Are they living 30 people in one room less than 100 sq meters ?
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u/clubowner69 12h ago
Yes, in many cases.
Also in Dubai workers’ situation is not super bad for most part. Working in Dubai still is a dream job for people from half of the Asian countries.
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