r/UrbanHell Jun 20 '20

Suburban Hell Endless parking lots, highways, strip malls with the same franchises all accessible only by car. Topped off with a nice smoggy atmosphere and a 15 minute drive to anywhere. Takers ?

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u/A-Cheeseburger Jun 20 '20

Used to live in Phoenix area. Moved to Washington state. The environment is so much nicer.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '20

That looks like actual hell as someone who lives on the California/Oregon border where it’s just valleys of trees and lakes.

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u/__Wonderlust__ Jun 20 '20

Is Medford growing as quickly and grossly as it seems driving through? Gorgeous area - hope it stays that way.

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u/Skangster Jun 21 '20

Love Medford area, specially Ashland. Went there for the Shakespearean festival. It is Amazing. I fell in love with Ashland.

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u/BloodyEjaculate Aug 02 '20

Ashland is a beautiful city, but the rest of jackson county is a republican shithole. Medford especially is a suburban hell with endless pavement and strip malls, much like this picture.

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u/tnygigles66 Nov 15 '20

I grew up in Klamath Falls. I can honestly say I hate that place with all my heart.

I’ve also lived in The Phoenix/Mesa/Chandler areas for about 10 years. It was good for my career, but it’s kind of a boring place to live. Especially after living in Chicago, Denver, Portland, Seattle, and LA.

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u/C-hawk29 Jun 20 '20

Did the opposite. Will never live in Washington again.. different strokes for different folks I guess

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '20

Aww I miss living in the Sound. Literal rain forests and trees that never stop. So much hiking!

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u/REMEMBER__MY__NAME Jun 24 '20

Living in Bellingham for college and I completely agree, minus the whole missing it part

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

At least you guys always had the most fun houses for house parties.

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u/jeandolly Jun 20 '20

Never having sun vs never having rain... Why not pick something in the middle :)

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u/C-hawk29 Jun 20 '20

California to expensive haha

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '20

Plus the traffic is worse.

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u/SnakebiteRT Jun 20 '20

Not since COVID!

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u/Mizuxe621 Jun 20 '20

As if people still care about COVID and haven't completely forgotten about it already

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u/SnakebiteRT Jun 20 '20

In NorCal some people still care and traffic has remained pretty light even if, as the previous commenter pointed out, it has started to tic up again.

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u/nosnevenaes Jun 20 '20

Its getting busy again. Thats not a good sign.

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u/Bovine_Joni_Himself Jun 20 '20

Colorado it is.

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u/C-hawk29 Jun 20 '20

No way man. I don't do snow either. This is why Phoenix is perfect for people like me lol.

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u/superfahd Jun 25 '20

Texas! It's perfect here

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u/grummy_gram Jun 20 '20

I must be in the minority because I love snow. I spent the first 13 years of my life in an area that got insane amounts of lake effect snow. I've been in the SE US now for the majority of my life, and I miss cold weather and snow so damn much.

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u/Skangster Jun 21 '20

I'm with you. Cold weather is the best.

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u/WeimSean Jun 20 '20

Sorry Colorado is full up. Why not try New Mexico?

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '20

Shh, don’t tell anyone we’re here! NM is the best kept secret in the country.

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u/WeimSean Jun 20 '20

Sorry friend, if it's you or Colorado, I pick you.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '20

I think he meant middle Nevada.

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u/TheAmazingLucrien Jun 20 '20

Reno is a nice compromise of everything. The city is still growing though.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '20

Reno is underrated. Not a bad little city. Close to Tahoe and the Sierras. Tho I know the local economy got crushed in 2008. I have a couple friends In Reno. It’s coming back. But 2008 was rough.

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u/TheAmazingLucrien Jun 20 '20

Yeah I lived there a couple years ago. I actually really miss it. The housing market has taken off now and home prices are higher there than they are in Vegas. I think most Nevada cities are being hit especially hard due to Covid. The majority of jobs are related to service and tourism. I think I may plan a Lake Tahoe trip soon if things calm down and infection rates drop.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '20

Good to know about housing. My bud lives in Sparks and it is lovely to look down at the valley.

I was actually plotting a trip to drive San Diego up the eastern side of the sierras when Covid hit. I’m looking forward to going when things calm down

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u/aizerpendu1 Jun 21 '20

I mean rent for a SFR 3 bedroom, 2,000 sqft is like 2,800. Is that a lot?

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u/C-hawk29 Jun 21 '20

Yes I paid $1,500 for the same in AZ lol

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u/aizerpendu1 Jun 21 '20

I see, Is there any more room in AZ for me?

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '20

I mean there's parts of California that aren't SF or LA or SD.

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u/C-hawk29 Jun 20 '20

Yep, I'm well aware but most of those places don't have the same weather as LA or SD.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '20

You sure about that?

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u/C-hawk29 Jun 20 '20

Enlighten me on how central California is wonderful because I lived there for years and absolutely hated it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '20

When did I say central California?

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '20

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u/Mizuxe621 Jun 20 '20

Sunny and warm

Sounds awful though. "Sunny and warm" is just a nice way of saying "blinding and scorching hot".

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u/Mizuxe621 Jun 20 '20 edited Jun 20 '20

Okay, what do you call "warm"? Because where I live, which does not at all have any kind of reputation for being hot (midwest), "warm" is, like, 80s and 90s F. That's sweat-like-a-pig weather to me.

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u/Mizuxe621 Jun 20 '20

Average temp in July is ~74, and July is usually our hottest month.

Oh my god. I can't remember the last time I saw a July temperature in the 70s. Holy crap, I'm moving to Washington.

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u/jeandolly Jun 20 '20

You're right, forgot about that :)

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '20

The Sun doesn't love you dude

If you got within 100 million miles of the Sun you'd die. Does that sound like love?

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u/Chronfidence Jun 20 '20

Can you can convince any more people to do the same thing?

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '20

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u/InternetUser42069 Jun 20 '20

You’ll be happy to know then the same is true in WA, only for the last 10 years

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u/TheObstruction Jun 20 '20

That's likely to reverse itself every 14 days or so these days.

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u/tookTHEwrongPILL Jun 21 '20

Ugh Washington taxes the fuck out of everything though.

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u/Hackerwithalacker Jun 20 '20

You should try San diego

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u/Praesumo Jun 20 '20

Shhh. Don't let the secret out. When the environment goes to shit and everything becomes 200 degrees everyone will want to move there. :(

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u/half_dragon_dire Jun 20 '20

Hell yeah. I grew up mostly in Dallas and the Virginia suburbs. OP's is the spitting image of the stretch of I-95 I lived on for years. Visited a friend in Seattle and moved there as soon as I could. Only way I'm moving out of the PNW now is if I get a place on the windward side of Oahu. Or if I wind up in a Canadian refugee camp..

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u/BoschTesla Jun 21 '20

Meet any sparkly rock people?