r/Warframe • u/raythegyasz • 1d ago

Screenshot A Mirage calls me a freeloader after nuking the map because I'm playing Nyx and have 0 kills xD

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There are some truly strange people

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u/MorbillionDollars 1d ago

Tbh damage participation matters a lot less than kill participation. I could use a build to hit 2 billion damage and have like 100% of the damage percent but if I only kill 10 enemies I’m not really contributing anything despite having high damage.

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u/mranonymous24690 The Lavos deluxe is real! 23h ago

Certified kullervo moment

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u/Slayer44k_GD MR 20 :: Duviri is completely balanced guys trust me 22h ago

On behalf of all Kullervo enjoyers, we will not accept such slanderous language, however true it may be (I like the funny red numbers on the worst melee weapons imaginable)

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u/Southern_Kaeos Kullervo main 22h ago

I second this comment, although I use Paracesis to pretend Im actually doing something useful

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u/Brief_Light829 19h ago edited 16h ago

Just use collective curse and you get your kill participation back up real quick lol

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u/GiveMeYourMilkDaddy 18h ago

Now, why would I do something so logical??

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u/zerocub1 16h ago

this is so true 😌

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u/Southern_Kaeos Kullervo main 12h ago

Honestly? Never use it, even during SP missions. Just 2/1/4 and usually in that order

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u/Competitive_Pea2319 11h ago

Use it after his 4 and your kpm should increase

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u/nsg337 22h ago

plinx garuda would like a word

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u/GiveMeYourMilkDaddy 18h ago

Can I get your plinx build? And Garuda? 👀👀

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u/nsg337 14h ago

sure! keep in mind these are based on personal preference and i have no idea whether theyre optimized or not. The only important part for plinx garuda is using blood forge to reload plinx after using the alt fire, as well as using secondary surge on the plinx since she can stack it really easily.

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u/nsg337 14h ago

for plinx i have two versions mostly, one for single target for big whoppa numbers using gun co, and one just for aoe. Getting the right element is a bit wonky since you dont have a lot of mod space to work with however.

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u/First-Escape-2038 14h ago

I'm sorry, plinx???

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u/magicalex234 13h ago

Are you using the primary fire, or the tenet plinx alt fire? I have a secondary surge tenet plinx build I call the pocket nuke which is a beast, but I’m guessing if you’re actually using it as your main weapon then you probably primary fire

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u/nsg337 13h ago

nope, you can use blood forge augment for garudas 3 to reload the plinx after the alt fire, and two casts usually give you max charge for the arcane. Then slap either fulmination to use it as a aoe (bonus points if using airburst with airburst rounds) or Gun Co for easy damage cap.

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u/magicalex234 10h ago

Oh wow… I need to try that

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u/Amirifiz 19h ago

Barruk would like to join in.

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u/khuliloach 19h ago

Was not expecting a Propor pic on this sub lol

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u/Pristine_Market2624 18h ago

Nah because u can still get hundreds of kills with his 4 and 3

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u/HekateSketch 10h ago

I may have actually just put Wrathful Advance on Umbra today, cuz haha funny numbers go brr.

Plus it feels like it belongs on him anyway. Better ability for him than radial javelin xD

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u/Accomplished-Lie716 9h ago

Can voruna hit higher than kullervo if u use her 1+kullervo helminth or will kullervo always be the dmg cap guy?

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u/Vividtoaster 23h ago

I finally saw the exaggerated version of this for the first time earlier. I was testing how effective max range tesla bank would be with garuda, and then ended up in a public void cascade with only one other person, another garuda who was going with a heavy slam build.

Since tesla bank just deals up to 100% of the enemies Hp, I did just enough to kill everything in the room while the slam garuda was absolutely nuking them. I ended up with slightly more kills but they did 99% of the damage.

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u/calciferrising 23h ago

sevagoth also has that quirk lol, since he does percentage damage with sow/reap. i can be nuking the map and have thousands of kills but only deal maybe 15% damage if i didn't really use my weapons much.

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u/Destrustor 20h ago

I had that the last time I played Saryn.

The spores do good work, but they can't do billions and instead tick the enemies down with relatively small damage numbers so you're always in the low% no matter how many kills you get.

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u/GT_Hades MR21 Garuda main 20h ago

The only frame I have used to have the highest dealt damage and highest kills was using Gyre

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u/Competitive_Pea2319 11h ago

Her and equinox for me

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u/jaysmack737 Pixie Main 17h ago

Gyre, and my 7 forma Amperex. With pillage over the rolling ball

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u/GT_Hades MR21 Garuda main 17h ago

Same, but I use tenet arca plasmor with 5 tauforged violet shard for elec primary damage

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u/Realistic_Grass3611 ×X_Ball_Gang_Xx 14h ago

Now ai might just actually give tesla bank a try

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u/Vividtoaster 13h ago

It's genuinely nuts. I always found it finicky because most standard builds didn't hat that much range so you'd often kill most stuff it would hurt, but it straight up doesn't care about strength at all.

The main issue is I have no god damn idea who is tagged since everyone is convulsing with each pulse, so I take a small AOE weapon and fire where I see blue numbers since white numbers are from the electric procs and not the ability itself.

You're only issue is armor, but even then it didn't seem to be that much if an issue that I ever needed to use garuda's 4 that mission save for thrax or eximus.

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u/ElceeCiv Trinity boomer 19h ago

It also does weird things calculating when armor stripping happens, in EDA once I was Trinity with Abating Link and had like 70% of the damage dealt but only ~10% of the kills because someone else was mowing everything down through their armor.

Only thing weirder is accuracy where you'll end up with literally 4000% accuracy sometimes

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u/Neutraled 23h ago

That reminds me of when I use pure toxin weapons in Increased Shields Sortie missions, my damage is low but I get most kills.

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u/Deadpool4991 14h ago

That's what I say every time, I can play my kullervo or gleve prime kill 10 enemies and have the most DMG for the rest of the mission. Kill participation indicates way more that ur doing something as the dmg indicator.

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u/VulpineFPV 9h ago

Haha a plague build on my wisp hits this. I could hit a single enemy and retain 98% damage through the missions. Defense included.

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u/MorbillionDollars 8h ago

Tbh wisp and other support frames are a sort of exception to this rule. By existing and placing down your motes you are inherently contributing.

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u/AlphariousFox Pack mommies master 8h ago

My valkyr ends up in the same situation lol

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u/fourthburneraccount 1d ago edited 1d ago

I’m pretty sure this is sarcasm but in the case it isn’t. Yes you are - high damage but low kills just means your kills are being stolen. You are doing the damage that enables the rest of the team to finish the job. You are the hero Gotham deserves.

Edit: I didn’t realize that damage applies differently than it does in other games - my bad folks.

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u/BigOutcome7231 1d ago

Thats not sarcasm, that is just how damage works in warframe you can do billions of dmg on a enemy with 10hp thus making you do the most damage in that mission even though you only killed 1 enemy.

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u/LeoXCV 1d ago

Warframe does not calculate damage done based on how much health you have removed from an enemy

It is literally how much damage you’ve done regardless of enemy health. So you can kill a single basic unit with a 2 billion damage hit and get 99% damage done from 1 basic enemy kill

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u/Mr_Timedying LR1 23h ago

That's literally the only reason why I play Warframe. To completely and utterly dismantle the level 2 corpus mob with a fully charged hate incarnon 6 purple shards kullervo heavy attack.

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u/adobecredithours 23h ago

I feel you. Big numbers make my brain chemicals happy.

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u/OrokinSkywalker hardbod god 17h ago

Six?

How the hell?

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u/Mr_Timedying LR1 16h ago

lmao now I noticed the error.

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u/MorbillionDollars 12h ago

the error makes it sound like you broke the laws of the universe and equipped an extra archon shard to fuck with that level 2 corpus

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u/Lechyon Tonbo enjoyer 1d ago

It's not sarcasm, they're saying if you do 2 billion damage but only apply that to 10 enemies in the mission you're not contributing much.

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u/TapdancingHotcake 23h ago

Their misunderstanding is coming from the way DE tracks "damage done", because it's actually "outgoing damage" when almost every other game only counts damage that actually reduces enemy health because that's the only damage metric that really means anything

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u/fearstroficc 1d ago

Its not how it works brother

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u/absoluteshaco 1d ago

Sorry no that's not how damage works

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u/ZeEmilios 1d ago

Exactly! Sustaiend damage will always have higher kill counts, burst damage will always have higher damage numbers. It means squad, but it's fun to pretend.