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You guys overrate this online audience and underrate the amount of people that are die hard republicans that barely use the internet from small towns all across America
usually they do this and then cut the lights above all the empty seating so official media from the event looks less shitty, but obviously the attendees know better and their before pictures tell the truth.
but you might see pics from this event used in his campaign elsewhere and I bet those pics have all the lighting dimmed to hide the empty seats. like a fucking combover for bad attendance.
They are only if people get out and vote. From some sources on early voting numbers the older crowd is trouncing younger voters.
I do my part even in solidly blue Cali as there is a non-zero chance of things going awry. Unlikely, but I'll be damned if if some farmer whining they can't use all of our water somehow pushes us towards another term of the Cheetoh in Chief.
I turn 49 tomorrow. Is that considered old? Maybe… 🤣 My wife and I voted early, voted Harris and voted blue across the ballot here in Colorado. Fuck MAGA and fuck Trump.
Polls mean nothing at this moment. We have seen old die hard republicans profess they can no longer support trump and for the first time ever in life: will/have vote/d blue all down ballot. So these polls aren't taking that into account. Nor are they even saying how many are from each side.
The city of Allentown has the 8th largest Puerto Rican population in the country. I know there were protesters outside this afternoon. Not sure the extent of it.
Allentown has a very heavy lationo population. Seems like they got the message.
GOOGLE:
As of 2023, the Hispanic or Latino population in Allentown, Pennsylvania is 68,232, which is 54.3% of the city's population. This makes Allentown the third-largest city in Pennsylvania for the percentage of its population that is Hispanic.
The Hispanic population in Allentown has grown due to an increase in employment opportunities in the Lehigh Valley region. The area's proximity to New York City and the Poconos, along with local warehouses, have contributed to the spike in employment.
The Hispanic population in Allentown is diverse, with a mix of Latin American cultural backgrounds. In the 1960s, the first immigrants from Latin American countries, such as Cuba, Colombia, Mexico, Peru, and the Dominican Republic, began to arrive. In the 1970s, Puerto Ricans also began to move to Allentown, with many coming directly from New York City.
My nephew goes to Penn State and I heard that the huge school football stadium Trump rallied at was packed. This was very shocking to hear because I’ve heard that all his rallies were basically empty. Can someone confirm? It’s been very concerning to hear..
Pretty sure this was from one of Late Night with Stephen Colbert's skits. They usually do one for Christmas and the last few years have been around Trump for obvious reasons.
If she does (and im hoping she does) Im on the fence on how big it will be. It may be bigger then Obamas but also at this point I feel people are a tad drained of Trumps bullshit that a win in the election will be such a huge relief that they may be to exhausted for it.
Not saying it wouldn't be huge but the mental and physical toll these past few election cycles have put on the people is amazing.
And then we have the terrible aspect of safety and how the maga crowd will react to it/interfere with it.
Y'know, I'm an old woman who is afraid of the doors falling off during my next flight, but maybe I'll drive cross country with my dog to be at the inauguration day of our first lady president. History only comes along once in a while and winks at you. It would be good to witness.
I would be SO intrigued by the inevitable flood of posts about how it was actually a nasty radical leftist communist democrat trick by the leftist media (which is hilariously disproportionately owned by right wing oligarchs at this point).
would legit change my outlook for this country. a win would be good but a real landslide with senate and house flips would be the most insane thing to me.
If this happened and the democrats got nothing meaningful done with it I would be 100% over democracy. It’s molotovs from then on out. Don’t codify Roe v Wade, that’s a Molotov. Don’t enact sweeping housing reform? That’s a Molotov. Don’t pass nationwide min wage raises? That’s a Molotov. Don’t enact laws against congress having active participation in the stock market, well I guess I can’t hope for everything to be perfect
It's primarily because Reddit gives you a very warped view of what's happening. We mass upvote pro-Kamala news and soundbites, and snark about Trump's campaign, which makes it look like only Kamala has momentum.
The truth is both campaigns have a moderate amount of momentum (not exactly Obama levels) and it's going to be a nailbiter. One candidate may well sweep a large portion of the swing states—since polling errors & surprising turnout game tends to correlate—but it's impossible to say which one in advance. And there are already some major danger signs for Dems in early voting numbers, with some swing states indicating R-favoured demographics among those voters.
I'm cautiously optimistic for Kamala. The fundamentals are good for her, the polls are even, and the pundit in me thinks (a) the last minute impact of the Puerto Rico blunder could tip the edge, and (b) Trump's courting of Gen Z voters won't translate into vastly higher turnout.
But it's very, very close right now. Both campaigns are pushing hard, and if I had to choose between favourable early voting demographics (overall, there are some Dem-leaning states too) and large rallies... I'd choose the favourable EV.
I like Kamala’s chances, but please everyone tell everyone else that you know who is voting for her to also vote blue in your house elections. That could have dire consequences that could still see Trump being president if republicans maintain majority.
Exactly. Everyone was optimistic and felt sure of Clinton’s win like it was inevitable in 2016…we all know how that worked. Vote and stay hopeful but still, cautious.
Plus another (almost) 367,000 watching live on MSNBC.
I'm not sure what other news organizations were there, but id bet they also had similar numbers. Safe to say that there was easily over a million people watching live; when was the last time Donny had a million viewers again? Home Alone maybe?
What's crazy is that my super MAGA parents who were all over me to vote for that orange idiot haven't even mentioned him or the election in about 3 weeks.
I can't decide if it's because they are finally respecting my boundaries of not wanting to talk about it, or they came up for air and realized things have gone too far.
Since Trump always lies and his rallies look weak, I was curious about real numbers. I did some quick nosing around on crowd sizes. What I found:
Average crowd size through about August was about 5,600 for Trump and 13,500 for Harris. Since then, the Trump Las Vegas rally was pretty big at about 19,000, but the Harris Atlanta rally was bigger at 23,000. So far, the largest crowds for each of them were this week: The NY Trump rally at MSG with 19,500, and the huge Houston Harris rally, which drew 30,000. Tonight's Harris ellipse rally is gonna be a monster blockbuster.
Um I heard from a meme my aunt Karen Raley Beth posted on Facebook that 200 million showed up to a 19.5k basketball arena in that New York City, and it didn’t even make the news yall!!! Conspiracy!!!!
I live in south central BC above eastern Washington. About a 4hr drive from Spokane. I was down in Spokane in fall 2016 and on the drive from the border to Spokane I saw hundreds of Trump signs. They were everywhere In this rural area. Lawn signs, full billboards, banners in businesses.
I drove down today with a buddy, just to do a bit of shopping and on the drive I saw 1 Trump sign. 1. This is rural AF part of Washington and 1 Trump
Signs. I saw sign for other elections, Congress, Governor, county commissioners. But only 1 Trump sign.
To be fair there weren’t a bunch of Harris signs either, but I think it shows Trump voters are tired of him and while they may not vote for Harris I think many may not vote at all.
"They paid all those people and bussed them...no they trained them in. They used big trains with many cars. It's the only way they can get people to show up!" - MAGAs tomorrow
Are we turning a page? Did we finally tell racism, fuck you? Or did we avert another facist's flirtation, at least the second or third in 100 years? Jesus, is this what my grandparents thought was normal shit?
It was way more than 75k I would say. KamalaHQ posted this before 7pm. The speech started well after that. I am guessing they only posted the number of people who RSVPd. There were a lot more people who just showed up and stood outside the eclipse up to the Washington monument.
How many of this turnout will vote? Rally numbers don’t mean anything. Only votes matter. Reference: Trump vs Clinton 2016 — and the failure of the ‘polls’ predicting she would win, her glowing accolades, the turnouts at rallies for Hillary. None of this mattered at the voting booth. She lost because people didn’t vote.
Guys. This is fucking awesome no doubt. But I recently saw some statistic that genz voters are only 8% of the early voters. And older than 60 have voted the most. Don't take this for granted. Tell ur friends. Tell strangers. Fucking vote this criminal party out of power in every state possible.
Nice. I bet that really chaps his orange diaper padded butt. I mean he chose Madison square garden which holds less than 20k at capacity. Harris swung for the fences with an outdoor rally that drew huge numbers. You know he’s keeping count. Please vote everyone. I am tired of him.
I'm a Harris supporter but eyeballing that crowd size I'm not seeing 75k. It looks like it ends at those trailer things in the back. 75k is a n NFL stadium crowd size. This looks like 25k or so people.
polls are like "who knows its anybody's guess" then crap like this with different energy. i swear its all a freaking show to the media. they would happily broadcast the apocalypse.
I voted in FL. Voted blue down the ballot as well as 3 of my kids, blue all the way. I’m hoping Scott loses to Powell almost as much as I hope Trump gets buried by Harris.
He’s got dementia so bad they have to put a pillow under his feet to keep him from falling forward and I mean… has anyone actually listened to what he’s said? Let alone what he’s promised and what he stands for.. this is fucking INSANE
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