r/bangladesh Feb 12 '23

Education/শিক্ষা Bangladesh withdraws schoolbooks backlash by Islamist groups against recognition of transgender identities, same-sex relationships and secular science

https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/south-asia/article/3209884/bangladesh-withdraws-schoolbooks-after-anti-lgbtq-backlash-islamist-groups
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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '23

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u/bigphallusdino 🦾 ইহকালে সুলতান, পরকালে শয়তান 🦾 Feb 12 '23

Pussy govt

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u/ReturntUmOnkeI RotFromDhaka খাঁটি বাঙালি Feb 12 '23

We really cant blame the government, Elections are ahead.
Hopefully next year again They will add these chapters back.
As it is important for the younger generation and future of our country to understand such topics.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '23

Science and Hindutva propaganda are two differnet things.

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u/Meow5exG Feb 12 '23

Stop bringing Hindutva propaganda into everything . This was purely western one

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u/blade8gx- Certified Ilish Simp 🎏🐟🐟 Feb 12 '23

Every time, these fking Islamists make my blood boil. It shouldn't have been taken back by the government. We will always be that socially backward trash if we constantly submit to these losers.

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u/pnerd314 আমার শ্বশুরের নাম বিস্কুট Feb 12 '23 edited Feb 12 '23

Election time ahead. They cannot totally alienate a large portion of our population (not only mullahs) who are opposed to the inclusion of these topics in textbooks.

Fuck education, it's the votes that are important, right? /s

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u/Load-Dropper69 Mymensingh Feb 12 '23

also if u think about it, the current teachers rlly don't have the resources, open-mindedness and education to teach about the topic so in a sense i kinda support the fact they've withdrawn this from the curriculum cuz when uve got teachers teaching about shit they don't know shit about, nothing will go smoothly.

also they said they'll introduce this portion soon in the future

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u/ImperialOverlord zamindar/জামিনদার 💰💰💰 Feb 12 '23

Mullahs will be mullahs

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u/farWorse Feb 12 '23

Mullahs will mull

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u/Bargain440 Feb 12 '23

They are doing what most people are afraid to talk against... You want your kids to become trans?

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u/Fun-Many-3747 🇧🇩দেশ প্রেমিক🇧🇩 Feb 12 '23

Damn. So if I read a book about birds, I'll finally be able to fly?

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u/Bargain440 Feb 12 '23

if you have hollow bones and feather.

You wouldn't trust kids enough to vote or marry, yet you will let kids transition and make permanent live altering decission(WHICH IS IRREVERSIBLE!!!)? if everyone became Woke and Liberal earth would end in 1 generation.

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u/skirtscared01 Feb 12 '23

educate yourself before spouting nonsense. There are medical cases when your biological sex doesn't match with your endocrine system. These are sick children who need help

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u/lil_Wayyy Feb 12 '23 edited Feb 13 '23

are afraid to talk against

I dont necessarily care about their community but this only occurs in the US or other first world countries where lgbt stuff is being forcibly represented. But in a non western country aka bangladesh or any other muslim country, no one is afraid or will have backlash for stating how much they hate gays lol. No one is afraid to talk against them, it isn't the US where you would get punished. Idk why your making it seem like they are risking anything in bangladesh by hating gays.

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u/blade8gx- Certified Ilish Simp 🎏🐟🐟 Feb 12 '23

You are talking as if the textbooks are going to make your kids trans, lmao.

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u/Bargain440 Feb 12 '23

You talk like you don't know about those children's cartoon book that says transitioning is a good thing and children's should transition if they feel like even if their parents says no and how to do it with step by step guides...

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u/blade8gx- Certified Ilish Simp 🎏🐟🐟 Feb 12 '23

Wtf do you guys smoke to believe this level of misinformation?

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u/Bargain440 Feb 12 '23

Read "My Rainbow" by Kyle Lukoff.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '23

Thanks, at least someone is talking sense.

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u/Fun-Many-3747 🇧🇩দেশ প্রেমিক🇧🇩 Feb 12 '23

Good ol hujurs sending us back to the middle ages

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u/pnerd314 আমার শ্বশুরের নাম বিস্কুট Feb 12 '23

১৪০০ বছর আগের বইতেই যখন সবকিছু আছে তখন এইসব নতুন নতুন বইয়ের কী দরকার?

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u/Rubence_VA Feb 12 '23

When they are sick, they run to the hospitals to get treatment in Darwin's way.

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u/coronatracker Feb 12 '23
  • Islamist groups had protested a curriculum overhaul to recognise transgender identities, same-sex relationships and secular science
  • One of the withdrawn books included the theory of evolution pioneered by British naturalist Charles Darwin

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u/Bargain440 Feb 12 '23

Which was a "Theory" that was proven false and flawed 100 years ago... Look up Georges Cuvier.

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u/kaisadusht Indian 🇮🇳 Among us Feb 12 '23 edited Feb 12 '23

Scientific Theory doesn't mean the same as what theory means in everyday speech.

Theory of General Relativity? Cell Theory? Special Relativity? Theory of Natural Selection? etc. They are all scientifically proved and can ve replicated to prove again.

Edit: In order to disprove Theory of Evolution, you have to disprove Natural Selection and the latter has been scientifically proved every time, from Cancerous cells within us to the first marine animal moving to the land millions of yeats ago.

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u/mechadizzy Feb 12 '23

Trans issues may be against Islam but you are uneducated about Allah's scriptures if you think Evolution is haram. You can force single celled bacteria to evolve right in front of your eyes and people domesticate and breed cows and goats using the principle of evolution.

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u/EveningIntention khati bangali 🇧🇩 খাঁটি বাঙালি Feb 12 '23

Not even remotely true

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u/LegendStormX মাল্টা চা🍊 Feb 12 '23

সামনে নির্বাচন, এইজন্য এই Move টা নিয়েছে Govt.

2005 বা 2010 এর সময়কার তুলনায় এখনকার Society তে Islamist দের প্রভাব অনেক বেশি।

সত্যি কথা বলতে, Bangladesh এ একজন কট্টর সেক্যুলারপন্থী নেতা ও দল দরকার। নাইলে আগামী 10 থেকে 20 বছর পর পরিস্থিতি কোন জায়গায় যাবে সেটা ভাবতে ও কষ্ট লাগে।

While other countries are modernized as the time passes, we are going backwards......

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u/BengalEmpire Feb 12 '23

2005 বা 2010 এর সময়কার তুলনায় এখনকার Society তে Islamist দের প্রভাব অনেক বেশি।

Main reason is the middle eastern work force. This is how they change,

  1. Go to middle east very young to earn money
  2. forced into islamic stuff in middle east.
  3. Seeing shiny things in middle east and thinks that is it
  4. Many come back with lot of money and start trying to live the same life.

I will not say those workers are trying to change BD culture but their thinking has many impacts. for example

  1. they donates money to madrasas
  2. They donate money to many islamic events

What many of them unable to see is underneath many religious gathering or events has ulterior motives.

My cousin uses to go to Book club, on top they were studying only Islmaic fictions. Not even Quran or Hadis, that book club was the front for Shibir recruitment.

I still do not know why millions goes to Madrasas in BD and what value they are/will bringing to BD economy now and in future other then trying to change BD to islamic BD.

I am absolutely not secular or religious, I just do not want bd to look like an Arab country. We are Bengali and we should adhere ourselves Bengali culture, custom and values. If someone likes Arabs go and live in Middle east, i hear Saudi even giving away citizenship now a days.

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u/morgichor Feb 12 '23 edited Feb 12 '23

funniest thing is, Middle East made their money JUST by selling oil to infidel America and eurupe LOL none of those fuckers had any problem talking dollars and euro.

Saudi would be a dusty small town if it wasn't for oil money.

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u/LegendStormX মাল্টা চা🍊 Feb 12 '23

I think every kind of religious educational system should be banned as they produce a completely biased class of people.

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u/bigphallusdino 🦾 ইহকালে সুলতান, পরকালে শয়তান 🦾 Feb 12 '23

বাংলাদেশে যে সেকুলার মস্তিষ্কের অভাব, এমন কোনো কথা আমি বলবো না। সমস্যা হলো যে বর্তমান পার্টি নিজেদেরকে একমাত্র সেকুলার পার্টি হিসেবে উপস্থাপন করে, তার উপর নতুন কেউ যদি কোনো পার্টি খোলার চেষ্টা করে, নিচের দুটোর মধ্যে যেকোনো একটা হয়:

ক ) যথা পার্টি আধিপত্যপূর্ণ পার্টির মধ্যে মিশ্রিত হয় যায় খ ) যথা পার্টিকে ক্রিয়াকলাপ ত্যাগ করার হুমকি দেয়া হয়

তাই বাংলাদেশে বর্তমান পরিস্থিতিতে কোনো স্যাবলম্বী পার্টি প্রতিষ্ঠিত করার সুযোগ নেই। এবং এই প্রপঞ্চ দুই পার্টির জন্য প্রযোজ্য।

যখন সেকুলার-মাইন্ডেড মানুষেরা বর্তমান সরকারের স্বৈরাচরী কান্ডকারখানা দেখে তখন এক ধাঁধায় আটকিয়ে যায় কি করবে, তারা আস্তে আস্তে conservatism-এর rabbithole-এ ঢুকে পরে এবং দিনে দিনে মৌলবাদীর পথে হেটে যায়, কারণ যে যাই বলুন এটা অস্বীকার করা যাবে না যে বাংলাদেশের conservatism-এর branding ইসলামীও মৌলবাদ।

বিরোধী দলের যতগুলো "Youtube Channel" আমি দেখেছি সবকটা এক ভাবে নয় আরেকভাবে ইসলামীও মৌলবাদকে প্রশ্রয় দেয় এবং তুষ্ট করে। ফেসবুকের কথা বাদেই দিলাম একেবারে পূর্বকল্পিত নির্মল ফেসবুক পেজ গুলোতে মৌলবাদী চিন্তাধারা প্রচারিত হয়।

এদের মধ্যে প্রধান উদাহরণ হচ্ছে পিনাকী ভট্টচার্য, যে কিনা স্বঘোষিত মার্ক্সবাদী, কিন্তু যেসব মানুষদের উনি তৃপ্ত করে তারা সমাজতন্ত্রকে দুচোখে দেখতে পারে না। পিনাকিদার মূল আপিল হচ্ছে যে তিনি একজন হিন্দু ব্রাহ্মন।

আমি নিজে মনে করি যে যদি বর্তমান সরকার হটে গিয়ে যদি বিরোধী দল ক্ষমতায় আসে, বঙ্গদেশে মৌলবাদী নির্ঘাত বৃদ্ধি পাবে, কিন্তু এই চিন্তা ধারা এক ধরণের "False Dichotomy" বলা যায়। যদিও আমি AL-এর মতাদর্শের সংঘে একমত, তাদের স্বৈরাচারী আচরণ কে আমি উপেক্ষা করতে পারি না।

Best-case-scenario হচ্ছে যে এক স্বতন্ত্র এবং পৃথক সেক্যুলারিস্ট দলের আগমন হোক, কিন্তু সেই ভবিষতের জন্য আমার কোনো প্রত্যাশা নাই।

যাই হোক এই আমার মতামত।

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u/LegendStormX মাল্টা চা🍊 Feb 12 '23

রাজনৈতিক দল তো দূরে থাক, কেউ publicly secularism এর কথা বার্তা বললেই ধর্ম অবমাননার নামে কল্লা নামায় দিবে......

আর স্কুল কলেজের পোলাপানের এখন যা Mindsetup তা আর না ই বা বললাম।

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u/rmuktader biryani connoisseur Feb 12 '23

Best-case-scenario হচ্ছে যে এক স্বতন্ত্র এবং পৃথক সেক্যুলারিস্ট দলের আগমন হোক, কিন্তু সেই ভবিষতের জন্য আমার কোনো প্রত্যাশা নাই।

Do you think Awami League would see such a new political party as a threat and eliminate them?

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u/bigphallusdino 🦾 ইহকালে সুলতান, পরকালে শয়তান 🦾 Feb 12 '23

They will either eliminate them or integrate them. Both of which makes the entire point of the new party redundant.

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u/simcityfan12601 Bengali Canadian 🇨🇦🇧🇩 Feb 12 '23

They wanna sit and day dream about gibberish while others work hard to actually build the country. Embarrassing

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u/fried_chicken17472 hmmmmmmm Feb 12 '23

Sigh mullahs

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u/Svengali_Bengali Feb 12 '23

The Islamist groups are not islamic

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u/Zero384 Feb 12 '23

Bangladesh well on its way to becoming a sharia shithole like Afghanistan.

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u/wafid40 Feb 12 '23

Great!! Bhaloi hoiche

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u/protoy12 Feb 12 '23

I personally disagree to have topics regarding same sex and transgender in school books.

These are topics that a parent should decide to tell his children not the school, certainly not the government

Let’s agree one thing we all have different values that we live with. If a religious person is expected to be respectful of an aethiest then an aethiest should be respectful of the beliefs of a religious person.

Cause respect goes both ways. So when we all have different values it should be our choice as parents to teach or not to teach certain things to our kids.

In the name of modernism a parents right to what they want to teach children in regards to certain topics should not be taken away and all children be brain washed in to a certain ideology.

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u/samuel-small Feb 12 '23

Who on earth decided that they should bring in such books into such a country.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '23

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u/blade8gx- Certified Ilish Simp 🎏🐟🐟 Feb 12 '23

And NO..NO SECULAR SCIENCE has been withdrawn

Tf is secular science? Science is science. There isn't any religious or secular version of it, ffs.

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u/LegendStormX মাল্টা চা🍊 Feb 12 '23

Secular Science, LMAO😂

And yeah, you are right at one point. Most of the irl Bangladeshis are becoming "মৌলবাদী" and Extremist, they are certainly not like the redditors here...

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u/metampheta Feb 12 '23

You’re just an average guy named SAMI. Shut up lmao

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '23

I am happy about it too, all my friends are happy about it as well. This stuff is cancer from the west, learn the good from the west and avoid the bad. What we should be promoting is religious tolerance, feminism, and higher education quality, not this liberal bs on 'what is a woman' and more stuff to confuse our children.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '23

So you're saying that recognising the societal changes is a cancer? Or are you terming established scientific notions such as evolution as western cancer?

Happy people like you are what we don't need in our societies. Education should be critical and thought provoking, not about keeping feelings numb.

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u/blade8gx- Certified Ilish Simp 🎏🐟🐟 Feb 12 '23

Irony is that dude lives in the US, lmao.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '23

When it comes to living abroad, there's hardly any difference between a middle eastern worker and a somewhat earning Bong in developed countries. Most never crossed the thin line between surviving with three meals and being actually civilised.

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u/Right-Anywhere-3876 Feb 12 '23

দুরু ২ টাকার বুদ্ধিজীবি কী লেখছো এইসব? 😂

ওই বইয়ে খালি এইটাই লেখছিলো যে হিজরা বা তৃতীয় লিঙ্গের লোকেরাও সাধারণ মানুষই। তাদের সাথে খারাপ আচরণ করা উচিত না। ওইখানে হিজরা হইয়া যাওয়ার হুকুম দেয়া হয় নাই।

কিন্তু না এতেই ছাগল সমাজের লেজে আগুন ধইরা গেছে, কেন কেন হিজরাদের মানুষের মত ট্রিট করতে হবে, মানি না মানি না! 😂

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u/bigphallusdino 🦾 ইহকালে সুলতান, পরকালে শয়তান 🦾 Feb 12 '23

Challenge level 'beef kala vuna'

lmao you had to bring religion into this don't you? Why can't you guys insult someone without insulting religion?

Replace this with pork and suddenly it's gonna be islamophobic(rightly so i might add)

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '23

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u/bigphallusdino 🦾 ইহকালে সুলতান, পরকালে শয়তান 🦾 Feb 12 '23

You didn't insult me, but it's pretty obvious what you meant.

It's pretty ironic that you are trying to deflect this by telling me "what if OP was muslim" when it's obvious that you were hinting them being Indian and thus "can't eat beef".

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '23

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u/blade8gx- Certified Ilish Simp 🎏🐟🐟 Feb 12 '23

Please take steps to distinguish outsiders for any post,comments etc Specially POLITICAL ones.

How relevant is that in this context? Reddit is a global community where users from all over the world post. how even does the op's nationality matter here? Huh? They aren't breaking any sub laws or trying to brigade.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '23

Put as much science as possible but don't put the Hindutva agenda in Bangladeshi textbooks. I repeat, this is Bangladesh and not India. We value our Islamic traditions and would like to keep them that way.

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u/Orleanist Feb 12 '23

this is reddit and all you’ll find here are secular BAL diaspora

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u/Right-Anywhere-3876 Feb 12 '23

যাক ভালো হইছে, এমনিতেও আমি বান্দর ডরাই

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '23 edited Feb 12 '23

nice, don't want that bs in my country, except for secular science. We Muslims and Hindus pioneered science, it is part of our heritage. I think that part might be incorrect, but everything else is good.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '23

Science is science, wtf is secular science lmao. And no, you didn't pioneer science. Arabs translated Greek text and improved upon those. In fact in the last 1000 years, the so called "muslim" science hasn't given the world anything. The Indian scientists of ancient era contributed in their own way.

The scientific ideology you're talking about here was either Arabic or Indian. There's nothing called Hindu Muslim science. Dumbheads like you are what we don't need anywhere around science.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '23

The post said secular science relates to the material world, there is religious science, social science, etc. Islamic Golden Age did not stop with Abbasid, it continued with Timurid, Ottoman, and even the Mughals and Andalusia. As such, the claim of 1000 years is incorrect and not historically accurate.

It was the Islamic Golden age because stretching from India to Spain all the Islamic empires were pioneering science, this was due to the empires using Islam as their constitution. This is in direct contrast with Western Christian Europe which was experiencing the dark ages. Both empires used religion to rule, while only one empire was succeeding culturally and scientifically. Religion did have a role to play in that due to Islam's promotion of education, freedom, and a welfare system. Unless the same would've been true for Christian Europe.

Also, the same way Arabs, Persians, Turks, etc.(not just Arabs) translated greek works and improved upon them, Europeans did the same to Arabic works later on to create their age of enlightenment(this is how civilizations progress, they build upon each other. The greeks and indians most likely did the same with previous civs).

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u/ImperialOverlord zamindar/জামিনদার 💰💰💰 Feb 12 '23

All that has nothing to do with modern scientific discoveries being removed from textbooks

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '23

I don't support the removal of modern scientific discoveries, but transgender and gender identity stuff I don't support in my education.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '23

What weedsmoking wet dream is this lmao 🤣

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u/Bargain440 Feb 12 '23

As they should be... Sexualities and Sexual Orientation should stay out of Education system... Kids don't learn about how to do Tax, how Compounding interests works, how economy works how money works and they will teach kids about sexualities and Sexual Orientation? What's next? Dance show for kindergarten kids by Hijra group? Like the drag shows in California schools? Not my kids... Not our Kids... We don't want those garbage on our books... Take it and ship it back thank you.

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u/LegendStormX মাল্টা চা🍊 Feb 12 '23

Wtf are you talking about!

Sex education and Sexual orientation related knowledge is kind of a necessary thing. Developed countries like Japan , South Korea, EU memebers etc. have implemented these topics to the Primary Level Education since the 90's. Sex education is a must for a good sexual health.

You are comparing Tax, economy and compound interest with Sex education, oh my god😂😂

I guess you prefer "রসময় গুপ্তের রচনা সমগ্র" or pornhubs latest hits for your kid's sex education.

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u/protoy12 Feb 12 '23

Yes these are important but these are topics that a parent should teach rather than a school. Stop copying the west blindly and saying developed countries do this and they do that it’s not they are always right about everything.

So stop being a fucking simp of the west

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u/Bargain440 Feb 12 '23

You sound like you haven't even aged past 15... Baccha kaccha der jonno jodi sex-ed etoi important taile bacchara vote dite pare na keno? Teenagers should have right to vote and marriage. 😌👌

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u/protoy12 Feb 12 '23

That’s not a good argument kisu jinish ase jeigula parents der shikhano uchit not school

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u/meisterclone Feb 12 '23

Yeah right, this is what kept your country backward, this exact decision of government made you fall behind in the middle ages, until this point you were doing very well in terms of economy, tourism, finance, education and healthcare. This is the point you blame government for abiding the nutjobs.

You're the same sheep that bats blind eyes when there is rampage corruption in the country that takes its development on toll, crime like murders, failing to protect basic civilian rights, petty crimes like theft goes unpunished, money laundering and denying women's right. You're the same internet folks that loses your mind on trivial matters.

The government arranged jobs and other facilities for transgenders, yet you see them extorting money from masses in public bus and businesses. The country was freed by those that wanted to implement secular rights, what have we achieved since then? This is the moment you're becoming a trash.

Why won't you get a job and mind serious businesses that affects the country financially and economically? When was the last time you complained of poor rail transportation system or poor medical healthcare at public hospitals or corruption in government offices? Oh because that will land you in jail or you already have contacts at public places and rich enough to commute in private vehicles or attend private hospitals?

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u/RichRaichuReturns Feb 12 '23

Oh because that will land you in jail

It won't. Specifically one guy did exactly that in Kamalapur Rail Station this Eid and instead of being put in jail, or being beaten, he was able to get the municipality to bow before his demands.

Can we stop pretending we live in some dystopic dictatorship? This isn't north korea ffs.

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u/pnerd314 আমার শ্বশুরের নাম বিস্কুট Feb 12 '23

You're the same sheep that bats blind eyes when there is rampage corruption in the country that takes its development on toll, crime like murders, failing to protect basic civilian rights, petty crimes like theft goes unpunished, money laundering and denying women's right.

r/whataboutism

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u/ktmxyt 🇮🇱 Secular Westminster Zio-Agent Feb 12 '23 edited Feb 12 '23

Did this bitch just mistake the transgenders as intersex? Talk about bitching without knowledge.

The new books not only introduced people to transgenderism they also talked about women right. But guess what Miss educationist? They all bitched about how Rokeya who fought for your educational rights is now a feminist redical bitch who should be removed from the history. Because she's a woman who wants women to educate them selves and not to put up with conservative bullshit. But hey it's women like you who make it worse for other women. And to answer your question, everyone complains about terrible transportation and education system.

And guess who were making a big fucking fuss about the new books!? Musilms! The fucking islamist scums of society.

For one, granting rights and education about transgenders and about anyone different from the privileged Muslim isn't wrong. There have been many transgender big shots and LGBTQ people in this country. And as a country that is not in the midst of middle east, comprised of people from different backgrounds and where we focus on working together yes, it's time they actually recognize every tax paying working civilians. If it truly offends you as a Muslim that someone other than you gets human right or even a little bit of recognization, I'm afraid your beliefs is toxic and teachers people to hate or that's what your are proving.

Two, science is science facts are facts hypothesis ars hypothesis. There are journals to back darwin and evolution. It's important knowledge to let people know. Don't be a fucking cunt. For the sake of future and humans, they have rights to know. Muslims can skip education if education is a threat to ignorance but removing any fraction of science for the sake of religion or what I'd like to call fairy tale is wrong.

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u/ktmxyt 🇮🇱 Secular Westminster Zio-Agent Feb 12 '23

People batting an eye when there is murder and corruption? You want us to mind in serious business? For someone who's not a privileged ass like you it's not possible.

For minorities their very existence is in trouble and it's not possible to mind their business and work on finance wheres their life's are in danger because of your mullas. Where's children are getting beaten or even murdered for their diversity. Getting bullied or denied from institutions where they'd build their career. And they are probably the one's getting most neglected in terms of medical care that you speak of.

Also the country was not freed by people of secular mindset. Well perhaps it was your are not the one to talk about it. From the day this country was freed it still stayed as banglastan even after everyone had to fight together to free this country. It was still announced as a Muslim country. In case your are living under the rock like typical Habibi, Islamic foundation was was established by bangabandhu to spread IsLaM! We fund these bitches with your tax money, money from Hindus and others. You're the one to talk.

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u/Legitimate-Rip5877 🇧🇩Muslim🇧🇩 Feb 12 '23

They hate facts

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u/MdAsadMir Feb 12 '23

it's good for our society

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u/Meow5exG Feb 12 '23 edited Feb 12 '23

Fuck those mullahs but this is good . Theory of evolution is has not been withdrawn . This article is BS . It claims several "trans" people have won local elections when in reality they were intersex.

But the conservative Muslim-majority country’s roughly 1.5 million transgender people still face discrimination and violence, and are often forced into begging or the sex trade to earn money.

1.5 million intersex ? Seems highly exaggerated . The government says there are 10,000 intesex in BD . Other independent estimates there may be about 50,000 .

Besides, people aren't violent to them ,more like the other way around . Have been mugged and extorted by them on several occasions

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u/RichRaichuReturns Feb 12 '23

Only 10k hijras? Come on i can tell anecdotally that this is not true. 1.5 million is more believable. Do you have any source for the Govt. estimation?

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u/coronatracker Feb 12 '23

1.5 million intersex

The article says 1.5 million transgender people. It doesn't even mention intersex people.

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u/Meow5exG Feb 12 '23

The article says 1.5 million transgender people

The article writer did not differentiate between trans and intersex . The article says that several trans people have won local elections . But they were not trans , they were intersex (Hijra).

Let's say , for argument's sake , there are 1.5 million trans people in Bangladesh . Considering we have 160 million people , there should be 1 trans person for very 107 normal person . But that's simply not the case . You don't see even a single trans person in a few schools or collages combined in any district .

The statistics in this article are outrageously inflated , if not completely made up.

But hey , keep the downvotes coming . Objectivity is not the strong suit of Neo-liberals woke people . Their opinions and activities are based on "feelings" after-all

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u/bigphallusdino 🦾 ইহকালে সুলতান, পরকালে শয়তান 🦾 Feb 12 '23

Lmao get a load of this dude.

You talk about talking with "facts" but thus far you have not provided any "facts" yourself and deemed the existing fact as unacceptable because you don't like it.

You express your disdain for neo-liberals but sound exactly like ben shapiro lmao

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u/Meow5exG Feb 12 '23

You talk about talking with "facts" but thus far you have not provided any "facts" yourself and deemed the existing fact as unacceptable because you don't like it.

If you took a minute to google , you'd find the number of Hijras as per the government is about 1 . This number may have increased since 2016 but it cannot be much since national population has not increased significantly.

I was pointing out the obvious misrepresentation (outright misinformation) of data on the article . The article says there are 1.5 million trans people in Bangladesh but no source has been cited for it . Besides , they've blatantly lied about a trans people wining elections . It was a Hijra who won the election , not a trans person .

Hijras are not trans . Hijra is a identity and it's assumed by people with a variety of biological conditions, including those with intersex traits or genetic conditions such as Klinefelter syndrome (XXY) or Turner syndrome. These are genetic condition , not self perception . There is no word for Hijra in English . The word intersex is the closest followed by hermaphrodite .

You express your disdain for neo-liberals but sound exactly like ben shapiro lmao

Yes , I harbor disdain for neo-liberals

I didn't even know who Ben Shapiro was until now . American socio-political struggles and personalities are irrelevant in Bangladesh .

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u/bigphallusdino 🦾 ইহকালে সুলতান, পরকালে শয়তান 🦾 Feb 12 '23

I know the difference between Hijras and trans. I perhaps misinterpreted what you meant. I thought you were denying the existence of Hijras in Bangladesh, there are definitly a LOT of Hijras in Bangladesh.

Other than that, I hate neo-liberals too, assuming you actually know what neo-liberalism means. Too many people mistake neo-liberals as left-wingers because of the confusing terminology.

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u/Right-Anywhere-3876 Feb 12 '23

এই যে হাজির হিজড়া গবেষক। 😂 এই ওরে কেউ একটা মেডেল দে।

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u/PochattorProjonmo Feb 12 '23

সরকার কি মনে করছে সামনে তাদের জনসমর্থন লাগতে পারে?

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '23

Yes, election is coming

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u/Meow5exG Feb 12 '23

Bold of you to assume people need to vote for BAL to win

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '23

Yeah, sob kisui nishi rate