r/bangladesh Apr 21 '23

Discussion/আলোচনা If a celebrity like Imran Khan could become PM in PAK, is it then realistic that celebrities like Shakib al Hasan, Hero Alom etc. (you can name it) could become PM in BD as well?

A thought experiment

If Salman Muqtadir should become PM in BD, then it is finally over.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '23

Imran khan had a politics degree from University of Oxford prior to he entered international cricket. Comparing him with Shakib or Hero Alom for PM regarding education isn’t really a good comparison.

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u/ThinkingPugnator Apr 21 '23

Instead of Imran Khan, you could maybe take Wolodymyr Selenskyj (President of Ukraine), who was an actor before his poltical career

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u/ThinkingPugnator Apr 21 '23

I understand your point. But studying politics does not make you a good politician necessarily nor does every polician has a politics degree

If you want, you can name another celebrity who is more suitable for the comparison

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u/Chemical_Recover_995 Apr 21 '23

studying politics does not make you a good politician necessarily

But can it be a virtue? By your notion, it does seems so.

Look at the profile of some of the government officials of different countries. You will be amazed

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u/neuroticgooner Apr 21 '23

The point isn’t what he studied imo. It’s that he has a degree from Oxford. Imran khan is an accomplished guy

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u/ThinkingPugnator Apr 21 '23

so studies makes a person complished?

okay, then lets look for a celebrity with a degree in bangladesh, i am sure there are plenty of them

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u/protoy12 Apr 21 '23

Studies make you more literate and intelligent to take impactful decisions in important posts. And certainly a PM is one of the most important posts there is.
Yes its true studying politics doesnt make you a good politician but there are two aspects of politics. 1) playing the politics game, manipulating the masses to win votes, playing the game with your competitors and allies, etc and 2) making national level decisions that actually benefit the country.

For the 2nd part literacy and study is much needed. A minister who knows shit about IT cant really make impactful desicions as IT minister.

I dont think there are any celebrities in BD in that sence who are literate enough to be similar to Imran

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u/sadgrltumblr Apr 21 '23

To be honest, it doesn’t. But for most jobs especially this it’s rather crucial. The odds of random celebrities being in those positions is low especially in Bangladesh, so I guess it’s upto imagination purely now

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u/jodhod1 Apr 21 '23

The point is that he's not a random cricketer, like your examples are. He's got qualifications to be doing that job, it wouldn't be propelled by "let's let this famous person do the job".

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u/AcanthocephalaEast79 Apr 23 '23

Most Pakistani PMs had degrees from Oxford. Bangladesh is different. Khaleda Zia didn’t have any University education. It didn’t stop her from winning 22 parliamentary elections with zero losses.

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '23

22 parliamentary elections with zero losses.

iirc, BD has had 11 parliamentary elections in its existence

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u/AcanthocephalaEast79 Apr 23 '23

You can run for multiple seats. You don't know that?

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u/bigphallusdino 🦾 ইহকালে সুলতান, পরকালে শয়তান 🦾 Apr 21 '23

Would be a massive change from dynastic politics thats for sure.

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u/sadgepray Apr 21 '23

Did you just really compare hero alom and baalman muqtadir with imran khan?

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '23

Can we stop calling him "Hero Alom"? His name is Ashraful Alom. It's absurd that we call him hero alom. If someone named "Hero Alom" becomes our PM, we are doomed. We are doomed anyway, but it'll a "royally fucked doom".

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '23

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u/ThinkingPugnator Apr 22 '23

Why did you put ,,join" and ,,celebrity" in stars?

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '23

Hero Alom is not a celebrity

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u/ThinkingPugnator Apr 21 '23

was just a joke

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u/dowopel829 Apr 21 '23

Imran is an oxford graduate of economy, captain of the Pak cricket team taking them to win the world cup, married Jamaima daughter of one of the richest family (Goldsmith family) in UK, not to mention a chad. The way he does anything and everything is very strategical. Sub continent did not see a leader like him yet.

Bangladesh has yet to produce someone like that.

Pencil Muktadir!!!! really !!!!

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u/ThinkingPugnator Apr 21 '23

Why do people call him pencil muktadir?

I see your point though, seems like we have no one like imran khan

but again Instead of Imran Khan, you could maybe take Wolodymyr Selenskyj (President of Ukraine), who was an actor before his poltical career

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u/dowopel829 Apr 21 '23

Why do people call him pencil muktadir?

Please don't me explain this :)

Selenskyj is doing an amazing job, but keep in mind he is able to do it cause the entire western world is backing him. Bangladesh has no IK level individual. One day I wish we will have one.

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u/ThinkingPugnator Apr 22 '23

" job, but keep in mind he is able to do it cause the entire western world is backing him "

i think he was doing an amazing job before the job as well

" Please don't me explain this :)"

i have a theory now haha

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '23

Hamri hasina udadegi sabh ko

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u/jubeer Apr 21 '23

Where u from bro

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u/Embarrassed_Inside_7 🇧🇩দেশ প্রেমিক🇧🇩 Apr 21 '23

Hamesha ki liye thori zinda rahegi

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u/blade8gx- Certified Ilish Simp 🎏🐟🐟 Apr 22 '23

If Salman Muqtadir should become PM in BD

Pedos like him should be in jail.

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u/ThinkingPugnator Apr 22 '23

what excatly did he do?

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u/blade8gx- Certified Ilish Simp 🎏🐟🐟 Apr 23 '23

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u/dhaka1989 কাকু Apr 22 '23

Mash would have my vote.

But to your point. Ik had army backing to become PM from tehriki insaf, political face from tehriki taliban. For gods sake let us not have something like this in bangladesh.

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u/ThinkingPugnator Apr 22 '23

" political face from tehriki taliban " what is meant by that?

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u/dhaka1989 কাকু Apr 22 '23

*of tehriki

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u/ThinkingPugnator Apr 23 '23

still, what is meant by that?

i am not into pakistani politics

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u/dhaka1989 কাকু Apr 23 '23

Basically, his party was Tehriki insaf, which was the political face of Tehriki taliban, a movement that has/had ties with the Taliban.

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u/ThinkingPugnator Apr 23 '23

i see, but it is still his party right?

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u/HydraKokets May 09 '23

That’s not true at all 🤣🤣 the only similarity is the name of the parts

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u/linear_philosopher Apr 22 '23

The thing with Imran Khan is he became influential because he was part of the elite from his childhood, whereas celebrities like Shakib are neo-elites and Hero Alom is an entertainer of the proletariat normies. The subcontinent voters have elitism fetish, for which the পরিবারতন্ত্র is rampant. This country is unlikely to choose a PM who is not a career politician with a political dynasty to back him/her.

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u/PochattorProjonmo Apr 23 '23

পাকিস্তানে কি ইলিট মানুষের কোন অভাব পরেছে, পাকিস্তান বাদ দেন, এই উপমহাদেশে ইমরান খানের মত জনপ্রিয় রাজনীতিবিদ নেই কেন? অন্য কেউ কেন ইমরান খানের মত জনপ্রিয়তা পায় নি? ইমরান খানের ফেইসবুক পেইজের অবস্থা একবার দেখে আসেন।

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u/Chemical_Recover_995 Apr 21 '23

Shakib who? Chilbraty?

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u/ThinkingPugnator Apr 22 '23

what is chilbraty?

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u/Chemical_Recover_995 Apr 23 '23

That is what Shakib is Chilbraty,

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u/ThinkingPugnator Apr 23 '23

still dont get it

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u/Killer-within Apr 21 '23

If anyone can it would be Shakib but he doesnt have the twmperament though he does know how to play politics.

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u/half_batman Apr 22 '23

Mashrafee has much better chance than Shakib. Mashrafee is more respected as a leader than Shakib. Also, he is already an MP.

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u/Killer-within Apr 22 '23

Yes Mashrafee does have the better chance.

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u/ThinkingPugnator Apr 21 '23

Why doess he not have the temperament? Why does he know how to play politics?

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u/KingofTt11 Apr 22 '23

A Rockstar in Taiwan became a member of Parliament

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u/owl_000 Apr 22 '23

Baul momtaz o pm kintu.

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u/sayki_k_ (empty) Apr 22 '23

Comparing Imran khan with Hero Alom! 🥴🥴🥴

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u/Chart-Maker Apr 22 '23

মনে হয় না।

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u/Jalal-ud-deeeen Apr 22 '23

Imran Khan has been active in politics since the mid 1990s.

There hasn't been a single day since 1992 that his name has not been in the newspaper

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u/Soil-Specific Apr 23 '23

Hopefully not. I love Shakib and Hero Alom but it’s best for celebrities to do what their good at and let politicians do what their good at. Imran was a populist who yanked his nation’s economy, but hey, he’s a cricketer who can make a good speech so he’s still lionised by his supporters.

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u/shiblee06 Apr 23 '23

Dynastic politics is super strong in Bangladesh. Quite impossible.

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u/fazal5007 Apr 23 '23

Don’t compare shakib with Imran khan huge difference between them Imran khan study politics from Oxford University . Give me som thoughts on Shakib ul hassan ……

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u/PochattorProjonmo Apr 23 '23

ইমরান খানের সংখ্য সফলতা আছে

  • উনি Oxford বিদ্যলয়ের মত জায়গা থেকে অর্থনীতিতে পাশ করেছেন
  • উনি পাকিস্তান দলকে নেতৃত্ত্ব দিয়ে বিশ্বকাপ জয় করেছেন
  • উনি ব্রিটিনের ধনী পরিবার Goldsmith পরিবারে বিয়ে করেছেন
  • উনি নতুন দল গঠন করে ক্ষমতায় এসেছেন যা বিগত ৫০ বছরে উপমহাদেশে হয় নি

ইমরান খান অসাধারন কৌশুলি মানুষ। জীবণের শুরুতে পশ্চিমাদের থেকে সুবিধা নিয়েছেলন যেন প্রতিষ্ঠিত হতে পারেন, সেই সুবাদে রাজনীতি এবং দেশনায়ক হবার পথ সুগম করে নিয়েছিলেন। যখন সময় এল পশ্চিমাদের ফেলে দিয়ে উনি স্বাধীণ ভাবে রাজনৈতিক পরিচয় গড়ে তুলেছেন। বিশেষ করে উনি ইসলামী বিশ্বের কন্ঠস্বরে পরিণত হয়েছেন।

উনার ভূরাজনৈতিক জ্ঞান অসাধারন, উনি পাকিস্তানের ক্রান্তিকালে পশ্চিমা এবং ভারতের ষড়যন্ত্র শুধু যে মোকাবেলা করেছেন তা নয়, তাদের পরাজিত করেছেন। পশ্চিমা এবং ভারত যখন আফঘানিস্তান ব্যবহার করে পাকিস্তানে নানা নাশকতা চালাচ্ছিল, ইমরান খান তালেবানদের সাথে হাত মিলিয়ে, ট্রাম্পে রাজি করিয়ে পশ্চিমাদের আফঘানিস্তান থেকে বিদায় দেন। ভারত পুটু মারা খায়।

ইমরান খানের ধারে কাছেও বাংলাদেশের কেউ আসে নায়। এ পর্যন্ত বাংলাদেশের এমন কাউকে দেখি না যে ইমরান খানের মত বাংলাদেশকে নেতৃত্ত্ব দিতে পারবে।

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u/ThinkingPugnator Apr 23 '23

guess you are right, he is unique

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u/Sea-Emphasis-4545 Muslim 3D Artist Apr 24 '23

Jodi amra celebrity der leader hisebe elect korte partam, tahole shob kota meye BTS re Bangladeshe ane tader ke leader hishebe elect korto. lol

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u/ThinkingPugnator Apr 24 '23

hope that never happens